comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 8 minutes ago
My definition of world class is a bit broad. Anyone who could be considered/argued to be the top 5-6 in their position in the world, or any player who you could picture starting and being a key player for most of the top, elite teams in Europe.
I don’t really like the definition of world class being ‘whoever makes a world XI’ or ‘top 2 in each position’ as you could have three right-backs all performing at the same world class level but apparently only one or two can be world class by these definitions. Maybe I’m being over pedantic and others don’t take it that literally but hey this whole thread has basically turned into the classic debate of the ‘world class’ definition.
World class PL players:
City: Laporte, KDB, Aguero. Sterling, Ederson borderline
Liverpool: Allison, TAA, VVD, Robertson, Salah, Mane
Chelsea: Kante at his best but imo he has not been at his best since Conte.
Arsenal: Aubameyang
United: -
Spurs: Kane
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Where does Borderline play?
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 8 minutes ago
My definition of world class is a bit broad. Anyone who could be considered/argued to be the top 5-6 in their position in the world, or any player who you could picture starting and being a key player for most of the top, elite teams in Europe.
I don’t really like the definition of world class being ‘whoever makes a world XI’ or ‘top 2 in each position’ as you could have three right-backs all performing at the same world class level but apparently only one or two can be world class by these definitions. Maybe I’m being over pedantic and others don’t take it that literally but hey this whole thread has basically turned into the classic debate of the ‘world class’ definition.
World class PL players:
City: Laporte, KDB, Aguero. Sterling, Ederson borderline
Liverpool: Allison, TAA, VVD, Robertson, Salah, Mane
Chelsea: Kante at his best but imo he has not been at his best since Conte.
Arsenal: Aubameyang
United: -
Spurs: Kane
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Where does Borderline play?
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Spent most of his career between England and Scotland
Other borderline ones I thought about were Son and Firmino.
If we were to go a bit niche and try and rank the top ‘defensive full backs’ in Europe, Azpi and AWB I think would be top/near top of both lists. And Azpi has had some genuine world class seasons for us (14/15 and 16/17).
I was thinking a similar thing for Firmino. He would be near a top 4-5 list of best strikers but he would be in a list of best false 9s, or however else you can describe his role.
*wouldn’t be near
Borderline, erm means what it means I guess, players who I thought are very close to world class but I guess just hesitant for one reason or other to fully classify them as such
Alisson
VVD, TAA, Robertson & Pereira
KDB, Kante, Pogba & Ndidi
Salah, Mane, Sterling & Son
Aubameyang, Kane & Aguero
23 man prem squad:
GK: Alisson, Ederson
RB: TAA, Ricardo Pereira
CB: VVD, Laporte, Söyüncü, Toby
LB: Robertson, Chilwell
CM: Kante, Ndidi, KDB, Bruno, Pogba, Fabinho
FW: Aguero, Salah, Mane, Sterling, Kane, Auba, Firmino
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
Is this article a wum?🤔
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How so GT?
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Because of the names in the list?
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Which ones?
Sterling world class? 🤣😂😭
Atleast it makes sense now why some of you think Aubameyang is World Class.
Even if you disagree, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that others by their own parameters may consider Sterling/Aubameyang world class. It’s hardly a ridiculous opinion to have.
comment by The Mane Man - PL CHAMPIONS (U19731)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
I watched the games of Leganes, Alaves yesterday and they were very very poor teams. You need to watch La Liga more if you want to judge the quality of their players. Bournemouth will be relegated but still have dangerous quick players like Wilson.
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Without wishing to get into a debate about the quality -or lack thereof- of the league, this is a pretty weird basis on which to support your view.
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sterling world class? 🤣😂😭
Atleast it makes sense now why some of you think Aubameyang is World Class.
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Sterling has performed at a consistently high standard for 3 seasons now. 1 in 2 goal rate last 3 seasons for a winger. When you think about what City have done in that time I think he deserves to be called world class.
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sterling world class? 🤣😂😭
Atleast it makes sense now why some of you think Aubameyang is World Class.
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118 goals+assists in 145 appearances over the last 3 seasons
He's probably one of the more borderline ones but it's not laughable
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
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You could take most eras and use that criteria and I'm sure some really top players would miss out.
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Yeah some really top players would miss out but you have to set some limits to it and I’ve set mine.
I’d say...
De Bruyne
Kante
Pogba
Are all world class midfielders.
VVD, Tierney, maybe TAA world class defenders.
Don’t think there are any world class forwards in the PL atm tbh. Auba is the closest, followed by Mo Salah. Pepe will get there.
But the only world class forwards atm are; Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe & Lewandowksi.
Kieran "not even played 1000 premier league minutes" Tierney
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
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You could take most eras and use that criteria and I'm sure some really top players would miss out.
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Yeah some really top players would miss out but you have to set some limits to it and I’ve set mine.
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Just limit it to the players you think are world class. Simple.
I don't know why people feel the need to limit it to a top XI or top 2 best in their position. There are always going to be quality players around who you won't fit in that way.
Lots of the players are being mentioned on the back of one half decent season (Pereira). Others (TAA and Robertson etc) are patently not WORLD class. There are lots of very good players in the premier league but not many are top, top TOP players season in season out. When people mention Scholes, the man did it over a decade, every year. Pogba doesn't even do it for his girlfriend. Lots of these players have world class reputations but are not world class performers.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
Tierney?
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He’s already stamping his authority at both ends of the field.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
Tierney?
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He’s already stamping his authority at both ends of the field.
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Let him stamp it out for a season or two first
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
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You could take most eras and use that criteria and I'm sure some really top players would miss out.
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Yeah some really top players would miss out but you have to set some limits to it and I’ve set mine.
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Just limit it to the players you think are world class. Simple.
I don't know why people feel the need to limit it to a top XI or top 2 best in their position. There are always going to be quality players around who you won't fit in that way.
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The reason why I do that is that simply using ‘world class’ is how are you defining that if there are no limits? You will have limits to define world class, they just differ to my limits. I think that having the top 2 suits and if there’s a 3rd that doesn’t quite cut it then at that moment or era then they’re not world class.
I don’t buy into this top 5 in your position makes you world class garbage.
A world class player should be a seriously talented footballer who can win matches on his own. I would agree with all the players on the OP’s list except for Silva (only coz he’s winding down) and Kante because of his injuries.
comment by RIP Football (U18355)
posted 4 seconds ago
I don’t buy into this top 5 in your position makes you world class garbage.
A world class player should be a seriously talented footballer who can win matches on his own. I would agree with all the players on the OP’s list except for Silva (only coz he’s winding down) and Kante because of his injuries.
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So was Cantona world class?
One mans world class is another mans very good
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 22 minutes ago
Lots of the players are being mentioned on the back of one half decent season (Pereira). Others (TAA and Robertson etc) are patently not WORLD class. There are lots of very good players in the premier league but not many are top, top TOP players season in season out. When people mention Scholes, the man did it over a decade, every year. Pogba doesn't even do it for his girlfriend. Lots of these players have world class reputations but are not world class performers.
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comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 8 minutes ago
My definition of world class is a bit broad. Anyone who could be considered/argued to be the top 5-6 in their position in the world, or any player who you could picture starting and being a key player for most of the top, elite teams in Europe.
I don’t really like the definition of world class being ‘whoever makes a world XI’ or ‘top 2 in each position’ as you could have three right-backs all performing at the same world class level but apparently only one or two can be world class by these definitions. Maybe I’m being over pedantic and others don’t take it that literally but hey this whole thread has basically turned into the classic debate of the ‘world class’ definition.
World class PL players:
City: Laporte, KDB, Aguero. Sterling, Ederson borderline
Liverpool: Allison, TAA, VVD, Robertson, Salah, Mane
Chelsea: Kante at his best but imo he has not been at his best since Conte.
Arsenal: Aubameyang
United: -
Spurs: Kane
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Where does Borderline play?
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 8 minutes ago
My definition of world class is a bit broad. Anyone who could be considered/argued to be the top 5-6 in their position in the world, or any player who you could picture starting and being a key player for most of the top, elite teams in Europe.
I don’t really like the definition of world class being ‘whoever makes a world XI’ or ‘top 2 in each position’ as you could have three right-backs all performing at the same world class level but apparently only one or two can be world class by these definitions. Maybe I’m being over pedantic and others don’t take it that literally but hey this whole thread has basically turned into the classic debate of the ‘world class’ definition.
World class PL players:
City: Laporte, KDB, Aguero. Sterling, Ederson borderline
Liverpool: Allison, TAA, VVD, Robertson, Salah, Mane
Chelsea: Kante at his best but imo he has not been at his best since Conte.
Arsenal: Aubameyang
United: -
Spurs: Kane
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Where does Borderline play?
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Spent most of his career between England and Scotland
posted on 20/7/20
Other borderline ones I thought about were Son and Firmino.
If we were to go a bit niche and try and rank the top ‘defensive full backs’ in Europe, Azpi and AWB I think would be top/near top of both lists. And Azpi has had some genuine world class seasons for us (14/15 and 16/17).
I was thinking a similar thing for Firmino. He would be near a top 4-5 list of best strikers but he would be in a list of best false 9s, or however else you can describe his role.
posted on 20/7/20
*wouldn’t be near
Borderline, erm means what it means I guess, players who I thought are very close to world class but I guess just hesitant for one reason or other to fully classify them as such
posted on 20/7/20
Alisson
VVD, TAA, Robertson & Pereira
KDB, Kante, Pogba & Ndidi
Salah, Mane, Sterling & Son
Aubameyang, Kane & Aguero
posted on 20/7/20
23 man prem squad:
GK: Alisson, Ederson
RB: TAA, Ricardo Pereira
CB: VVD, Laporte, Söyüncü, Toby
LB: Robertson, Chilwell
CM: Kante, Ndidi, KDB, Bruno, Pogba, Fabinho
FW: Aguero, Salah, Mane, Sterling, Kane, Auba, Firmino
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
Is this article a wum?🤔
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How so GT?
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Because of the names in the list?
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Which ones?
posted on 20/7/20
Sterling world class? 🤣😂😭
Atleast it makes sense now why some of you think Aubameyang is World Class.
posted on 20/7/20
Even if you disagree, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that others by their own parameters may consider Sterling/Aubameyang world class. It’s hardly a ridiculous opinion to have.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by The Mane Man - PL CHAMPIONS (U19731)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
I watched the games of Leganes, Alaves yesterday and they were very very poor teams. You need to watch La Liga more if you want to judge the quality of their players. Bournemouth will be relegated but still have dangerous quick players like Wilson.
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Without wishing to get into a debate about the quality -or lack thereof- of the league, this is a pretty weird basis on which to support your view.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sterling world class? 🤣😂😭
Atleast it makes sense now why some of you think Aubameyang is World Class.
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Sterling has performed at a consistently high standard for 3 seasons now. 1 in 2 goal rate last 3 seasons for a winger. When you think about what City have done in that time I think he deserves to be called world class.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sterling world class? 🤣😂😭
Atleast it makes sense now why some of you think Aubameyang is World Class.
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118 goals+assists in 145 appearances over the last 3 seasons
He's probably one of the more borderline ones but it's not laughable
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
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You could take most eras and use that criteria and I'm sure some really top players would miss out.
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Yeah some really top players would miss out but you have to set some limits to it and I’ve set mine.
posted on 20/7/20
I’d say...
De Bruyne
Kante
Pogba
Are all world class midfielders.
VVD, Tierney, maybe TAA world class defenders.
Don’t think there are any world class forwards in the PL atm tbh. Auba is the closest, followed by Mo Salah. Pepe will get there.
But the only world class forwards atm are; Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe & Lewandowksi.
posted on 20/7/20
Kieran "not even played 1000 premier league minutes" Tierney
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
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You could take most eras and use that criteria and I'm sure some really top players would miss out.
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Yeah some really top players would miss out but you have to set some limits to it and I’ve set mine.
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Just limit it to the players you think are world class. Simple.
I don't know why people feel the need to limit it to a top XI or top 2 best in their position. There are always going to be quality players around who you won't fit in that way.
posted on 20/7/20
Lots of the players are being mentioned on the back of one half decent season (Pereira). Others (TAA and Robertson etc) are patently not WORLD class. There are lots of very good players in the premier league but not many are top, top TOP players season in season out. When people mention Scholes, the man did it over a decade, every year. Pogba doesn't even do it for his girlfriend. Lots of these players have world class reputations but are not world class performers.
posted on 20/7/20
Tierney?
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
Tierney?
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He’s already stamping his authority at both ends of the field.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
Tierney?
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He’s already stamping his authority at both ends of the field.
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Let him stamp it out for a season or two first
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
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You could take most eras and use that criteria and I'm sure some really top players would miss out.
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Yeah some really top players would miss out but you have to set some limits to it and I’ve set mine.
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Just limit it to the players you think are world class. Simple.
I don't know why people feel the need to limit it to a top XI or top 2 best in their position. There are always going to be quality players around who you won't fit in that way.
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The reason why I do that is that simply using ‘world class’ is how are you defining that if there are no limits? You will have limits to define world class, they just differ to my limits. I think that having the top 2 suits and if there’s a 3rd that doesn’t quite cut it then at that moment or era then they’re not world class.
posted on 20/7/20
I don’t buy into this top 5 in your position makes you world class garbage.
A world class player should be a seriously talented footballer who can win matches on his own. I would agree with all the players on the OP’s list except for Silva (only coz he’s winding down) and Kante because of his injuries.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by RIP Football (U18355)
posted 4 seconds ago
I don’t buy into this top 5 in your position makes you world class garbage.
A world class player should be a seriously talented footballer who can win matches on his own. I would agree with all the players on the OP’s list except for Silva (only coz he’s winding down) and Kante because of his injuries.
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So was Cantona world class?
posted on 20/7/20
One mans world class is another mans very good
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 22 minutes ago
Lots of the players are being mentioned on the back of one half decent season (Pereira). Others (TAA and Robertson etc) are patently not WORLD class. There are lots of very good players in the premier league but not many are top, top TOP players season in season out. When people mention Scholes, the man did it over a decade, every year. Pogba doesn't even do it for his girlfriend. Lots of these players have world class reputations but are not world class performers.
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Name better players in their position than TAA and Robertson.
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