We are like 3rd in net spend over the last 10 years or something. Why do people keep acting like we don’t spend money?
Also Leeds will be battling relegation next season
This narrative that Arsenal are the London Newcastle is weird.
The question is not if we spend, but will we spend well.
We actually have a pretty decent starting point for a revival. Leno/Martinez, Saliba, Tierney, Saka, Martinelli, Pepe, Aubameyang. The glaring gap is of course midfield.
Some will say we have to spend an arbitrary amount, say £200m, but it is all about getting the right players rather than spending a certain amount. Given the talent we have, getting 2 CMs will give us a good chance of measurable progress.
We hardly spent anything lol. Certainly not from Stans pocket. We sell to buy, our signings are arranged in installments. We brought Luiz for 8 mill when we needed a top cb. Stop kidding yourself like we invest heavily. On Leeds , they played us off the park at the Emirates, well organised and will be astute in the market. They can easily do a Wolves.
Should have said "getting the right 2 CMs".
We sell to buy,
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This is so obviously not true.
our signings are arranged in installments.
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Most clubs, including Barca, Real Madrid and Bayern, do the same.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
The question is not if we spend, but will we spend well.
We actually have a pretty decent starting point for a revival. Leno/Martinez, Saliba, Tierney, Saka, Martinelli, Pepe, Aubameyang. The glaring gap is of course midfield.
Some will say we have to spend an arbitrary amount, say £200m, but it is all about getting the right players rather than spending a certain amount. Given the talent we have, getting 2 CMs will give us a good chance of measurable progress.
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I agree it has to be spent on the right players but can we just go out and buy Kai havertz for e.g. we won’t compete for the best players like Sancho ect. We panic brought Luiz.
Hardly spent anything?
Since Arsenal signed Ozil I think only Chelsea, United and City have spent more than them on transfer fees and wages.
Arsenal being paupers is ten years out of date.
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
Hardly spent anything?
Since Arsenal signed Ozil I think only Chelsea, United and City have spent more than them on transfer fees and wages.
Arsenal being paupers is ten years out of date.
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That’s my point
The clubs above us will invest significantly
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
Hardly spent anything?
Since Arsenal signed Ozil I think only Chelsea, United and City have spent more than them on transfer fees and wages.
Arsenal being paupers is ten years out of date.
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That’s my point
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I thought your point is we don't spend and "sell to buy"
Your point is that you haven’t spent money. That is clearly boollocks.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
Hardly spent anything?
Since Arsenal signed Ozil I think only Chelsea, United and City have spent more than them on transfer fees and wages.
Arsenal being paupers is ten years out of date.
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That’s my point
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I thought your point is we don't spend and "sell to buy"
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No point is as I made in the article, others above us will invest significantly and we will get left behind.
The trouble for Arsenal is that they pay CL wages and they're not in it. Throw in covid and I can see Arteta walking if he's not backed to an at least league average amount.
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Your point is that you haven’t spent money. That is clearly boollocks.
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We don’t invest as much as Chelsea , Utd the teams that we should be competing with. You’ve just stated this yourself. We are in danger of being left behind.
Actually our net spend is far greater than Chelseas in the last 5 years.
However they have sold nearly £400m more than us.
Our issues are four fold (probably more tbh):
Spending massive on flops
Not developing players well
Selling players cheap
Letting players run their contracts down.
Stan hasn't bankrolled us in 10 years so I'm not expecting him to start now. We've gone 4 seasons without CL, the covid effect (worse for us since we rely more on matchday revenue) and too many players on big salaries stealing a living so we don't have much to spend. We need to sort out our scouting and recruitment first or we'd p!ss any investment down the drain anyway.
You were spending more than Chelsea for a period - they’ve just spent about £80m to overtake your spending I believe. But they had a transfer ban, after selling lots of players for big money, and have a billionaire owner that can limit the effects of covid. Manchester United are the richest club in the land.
If hardly spending anything is not spending City and United levels, but comparable with Chelsea, then I don’t really know what to say.
Arsenal fans cannot complain about spending money anymore. All the figures disagree with you.
Since Liverpool finished 8th they have spent under £400m gross.
In that time we have spent £430m. We finished 2nd that season Liverpool finished 8th.
Liverpool also sold £325m of talent.
We sold £191m of talent.
(all figures as per Transferleague.co.uk)
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 45 seconds ago
You were spending more than Chelsea for a period - they’ve just spent about £80m to overtake your spending I believe. But they had a transfer ban, after selling lots of players for big money, and have a billionaire owner that can limit the effects of covid. Manchester United are the richest club in the land.
If hardly spending anything is not spending City and United levels, but comparable with Chelsea, then I don’t really know what to say.
Arsenal fans cannot complain about spending money anymore. All the figures disagree with you.
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We can’t compete for the best players. If United want Sancho, Koulibaly ect this summer you will go all out for them, there’s no way we can do that. United can go and build a spine, spend 85 mill on Maguire ect. We spent 8 mill on luiz. Will Arteta get the money for Partey, Coutinho ect, a top cb.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Since Liverpool finished 8th they have spent under £400m gross.
In that time we have spent £430m. We finished 2nd that season Liverpool finished 8th.
Liverpool also sold £325m of talent.
We sold £191m of talent.
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You had a higher wage bill than them for the majority of that time as well.
Yes, we’ve established that Arsenal cannot compete in the transfer market with United for players. Few clubs in world football can.
But that’s different to claiming you hardly spend. I can’t believe this needs explaining.
Why look enviously at what United have done to fight for 4th and ignore what Liverpool have done to win the title by a mile?
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posted on 23/7/20
We are like 3rd in net spend over the last 10 years or something. Why do people keep acting like we don’t spend money?
Also Leeds will be battling relegation next season
posted on 23/7/20
This narrative that Arsenal are the London Newcastle is weird.
posted on 23/7/20
The question is not if we spend, but will we spend well.
We actually have a pretty decent starting point for a revival. Leno/Martinez, Saliba, Tierney, Saka, Martinelli, Pepe, Aubameyang. The glaring gap is of course midfield.
Some will say we have to spend an arbitrary amount, say £200m, but it is all about getting the right players rather than spending a certain amount. Given the talent we have, getting 2 CMs will give us a good chance of measurable progress.
posted on 23/7/20
We hardly spent anything lol. Certainly not from Stans pocket. We sell to buy, our signings are arranged in installments. We brought Luiz for 8 mill when we needed a top cb. Stop kidding yourself like we invest heavily. On Leeds , they played us off the park at the Emirates, well organised and will be astute in the market. They can easily do a Wolves.
posted on 23/7/20
Should have said "getting the right 2 CMs".
posted on 23/7/20
We sell to buy,
=====
This is so obviously not true.
our signings are arranged in installments.
=====
Most clubs, including Barca, Real Madrid and Bayern, do the same.
posted on 23/7/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
The question is not if we spend, but will we spend well.
We actually have a pretty decent starting point for a revival. Leno/Martinez, Saliba, Tierney, Saka, Martinelli, Pepe, Aubameyang. The glaring gap is of course midfield.
Some will say we have to spend an arbitrary amount, say £200m, but it is all about getting the right players rather than spending a certain amount. Given the talent we have, getting 2 CMs will give us a good chance of measurable progress.
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I agree it has to be spent on the right players but can we just go out and buy Kai havertz for e.g. we won’t compete for the best players like Sancho ect. We panic brought Luiz.
posted on 23/7/20
Hardly spent anything?
Since Arsenal signed Ozil I think only Chelsea, United and City have spent more than them on transfer fees and wages.
Arsenal being paupers is ten years out of date.
posted on 23/7/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
Hardly spent anything?
Since Arsenal signed Ozil I think only Chelsea, United and City have spent more than them on transfer fees and wages.
Arsenal being paupers is ten years out of date.
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That’s my point
posted on 23/7/20
The clubs above us will invest significantly
posted on 23/7/20
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
Hardly spent anything?
Since Arsenal signed Ozil I think only Chelsea, United and City have spent more than them on transfer fees and wages.
Arsenal being paupers is ten years out of date.
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That’s my point
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I thought your point is we don't spend and "sell to buy"
posted on 23/7/20
Your point is that you haven’t spent money. That is clearly boollocks.
posted on 23/7/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
Hardly spent anything?
Since Arsenal signed Ozil I think only Chelsea, United and City have spent more than them on transfer fees and wages.
Arsenal being paupers is ten years out of date.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s my point
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I thought your point is we don't spend and "sell to buy"
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No point is as I made in the article, others above us will invest significantly and we will get left behind.
posted on 23/7/20
The trouble for Arsenal is that they pay CL wages and they're not in it. Throw in covid and I can see Arteta walking if he's not backed to an at least league average amount.
posted on 23/7/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Your point is that you haven’t spent money. That is clearly boollocks.
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We don’t invest as much as Chelsea , Utd the teams that we should be competing with. You’ve just stated this yourself. We are in danger of being left behind.
posted on 23/7/20
Actually our net spend is far greater than Chelseas in the last 5 years.
However they have sold nearly £400m more than us.
Our issues are four fold (probably more tbh):
Spending massive on flops
Not developing players well
Selling players cheap
Letting players run their contracts down.
posted on 23/7/20
Stan hasn't bankrolled us in 10 years so I'm not expecting him to start now. We've gone 4 seasons without CL, the covid effect (worse for us since we rely more on matchday revenue) and too many players on big salaries stealing a living so we don't have much to spend. We need to sort out our scouting and recruitment first or we'd p!ss any investment down the drain anyway.
posted on 23/7/20
You were spending more than Chelsea for a period - they’ve just spent about £80m to overtake your spending I believe. But they had a transfer ban, after selling lots of players for big money, and have a billionaire owner that can limit the effects of covid. Manchester United are the richest club in the land.
If hardly spending anything is not spending City and United levels, but comparable with Chelsea, then I don’t really know what to say.
Arsenal fans cannot complain about spending money anymore. All the figures disagree with you.
posted on 23/7/20
Since Liverpool finished 8th they have spent under £400m gross.
In that time we have spent £430m. We finished 2nd that season Liverpool finished 8th.
Liverpool also sold £325m of talent.
We sold £191m of talent.
posted on 23/7/20
(all figures as per Transferleague.co.uk)
posted on 23/7/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 45 seconds ago
You were spending more than Chelsea for a period - they’ve just spent about £80m to overtake your spending I believe. But they had a transfer ban, after selling lots of players for big money, and have a billionaire owner that can limit the effects of covid. Manchester United are the richest club in the land.
If hardly spending anything is not spending City and United levels, but comparable with Chelsea, then I don’t really know what to say.
Arsenal fans cannot complain about spending money anymore. All the figures disagree with you.
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We can’t compete for the best players. If United want Sancho, Koulibaly ect this summer you will go all out for them, there’s no way we can do that. United can go and build a spine, spend 85 mill on Maguire ect. We spent 8 mill on luiz. Will Arteta get the money for Partey, Coutinho ect, a top cb.
posted on 23/7/20
I highly doubt it.
posted on 23/7/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
Since Liverpool finished 8th they have spent under £400m gross.
In that time we have spent £430m. We finished 2nd that season Liverpool finished 8th.
Liverpool also sold £325m of talent.
We sold £191m of talent.
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You had a higher wage bill than them for the majority of that time as well.
posted on 23/7/20
Yes, we’ve established that Arsenal cannot compete in the transfer market with United for players. Few clubs in world football can.
But that’s different to claiming you hardly spend. I can’t believe this needs explaining.
posted on 23/7/20
Why look enviously at what United have done to fight for 4th and ignore what Liverpool have done to win the title by a mile?
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