going backache original list.
All were top strikers in their time. But man, The Heart and Soul of Ian Wright.
What this guy managed to achieve through pure guts and determination. That's the stuff you want to bottle up
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 6 minutes ago
going backache original list.
All were top strikers in their time. But man, The Heart and Soul of Ian Wright.
What this guy managed to achieve through pure guts and determination. That's the stuff you want to bottle up
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A better player than many give credit for imo.
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 8 minutes ago
going backache original list.
All were top strikers in their time. But man, The Heart and Soul of Ian Wright.
What this guy managed to achieve through pure guts and determination. That's the stuff you want to bottle up
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He bottled up his pure guts and spat them at Oldham fans.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 50 minutes ago
Greaves definitely one of the best in his era but the 2 eras (Greaves era and the PL) are so far apart and different it's hard to compare them. It's bad enough having Lineker in this debate.
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I agree cannot really compare Prem era with Greaves or Dean era. Prem era players have everything going for them.
Could you imagine Shearer or any modern day Prem player, playing with a ball that weighed a ton, playing on pitches ankle deep in mud with those heavy boots. Oh and getting some brutal on the field treatment from opposition defenders. See fella it work both ways.
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posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
I am astonished everybody is arguing over Roobey, Kane and Shearer, when the real top two are:
Jimmy Greaves
Dixie Dean
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Dean played in the 1920s/30s. So it’s hard to judge him.
Greaves is up there for sure. The thing against him is that he got dropped during the World Cup and England won it with Hurst playing CF instead.
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The amount of goals they scored between them, make them a long way the best two English strikers ever.
After all isn't scoring goals what being the best striker is supposed to be about. Whatever the era.
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agree with these 2
my granddad was a die hard evertonian...lived near the ground and saw Dean play.
said he was the best CF he ever watched
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I never saw him play of course, but my Dad did, he said much the same.
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 58 minutes ago
Steve Bloomer
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Great record.
Unfair having a Sheringham in here, one of the most underrated strikers and not for him a lot of his strike partners wouldn't have as many goals as they did, brilliant link up player as well as bagging a good number himself.
1. Shearer
2. Kane
Owen when he was young looked different gravy and was great to watch.
All great players and yeah Rooney should be in the mix too although he is also in the Sheringham category more than a Kane and Shearer, but scored more goals.
Rooney then Shearer probably
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posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
I am astonished everybody is arguing over Roobey, Kane and Shearer, when the real top two are:
Jimmy Greaves
Dixie Dean
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Dean played in the 1920s/30s. So it’s hard to judge him.
Greaves is up there for sure. The thing against him is that he got dropped during the World Cup and England won it with Hurst playing CF instead.
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The amount of goals they scored between them, make them a long way the best two English strikers ever.
After all isn't scoring goals what being the best striker is supposed to be about. Whatever the era.
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agree with these 2
my granddad was a die hard evertonian...lived near the ground and saw Dean play.
said he was the best CF he ever watched
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I never saw him play of course, but my Dad did, he said much the same.
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How many great strikers were there before Dean?
My vote goes to Alan Shearer.
Shearer for me, 260 PL goals is phenomenal and that doesn't even include the goals he scored in the pre-Premier League seasons he played in. Coupled with the fact that he scored most of them for Newcastle who weren't a top side.
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posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
I am astonished everybody is arguing over Roobey, Kane and Shearer, when the real top two are:
Jimmy Greaves
Dixie Dean
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Dean played in the 1920s/30s. So it’s hard to judge him.
Greaves is up there for sure. The thing against him is that he got dropped during the World Cup and England won it with Hurst playing CF instead.
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The amount of goals they scored between them, make them a long way the best two English strikers ever.
After all isn't scoring goals what being the best striker is supposed to be about. Whatever the era.
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agree with these 2
my granddad was a die hard evertonian...lived near the ground and saw Dean play.
said he was the best CF he ever watched
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I never saw him play of course, but my Dad did, he said much the same.
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p
How many great strikers were there before Dean?
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A lit as long as your arm fella.
The top goalscorers of all time in the top flight, Prem and 1st division goals only.
Jimmy Greaves 357
Steve Bloomer 314
Dixie Dean 310
Gordon Hodgson 287
Alan Shearer 283
Davi Jack 257
Charlie Buchan 257
Nat Lofthouse 255
Joe Bradford 248
Hugie Gallagher 246
Joe Smith 243
George Brown 240
George Camsell 233
Dean would have been higher, but he spent a couple of seasons in the 2nd division, where he scored a lot more.
You don`t think scoring goals was only invented with the Premiership.
In fact only one Premiership player on that list. Of that list I myself only saw Greaves, Lofthouse and Shearer player.
They must have all been great players in their own right, and I doubt many of those goal tallies will be broken by many modern players.
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 4 minutes ago
Shearer for me, 260 PL goals is phenomenal and that doesn't even include the goals he scored in the pre-Premier League seasons he played in. Coupled with the fact that he scored most of them for Newcastle who weren't a top side.
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Just the nearly 100 goals behind Jimmy, but a decent total.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 4 minutes ago
Shearer for me, 260 PL goals is phenomenal and that doesn't even include the goals he scored in the pre-Premier League seasons he played in. Coupled with the fact that he scored most of them for Newcastle who weren't a top side.
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Just the nearly 100 goals behind Jimmy, but a decent total.
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Shearer's career total is 379 club goals. The 260 is PL goals.
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 4 minutes ago
Shearer for me, 260 PL goals is phenomenal and that doesn't even include the goals he scored in the pre-Premier League seasons he played in. Coupled with the fact that he scored most of them for Newcastle who weren't a top side.
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Just the nearly 100 goals behind Jimmy, but a decent total.
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Shearer's career total is 379 club goals. The 260 is PL goals.
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Jimmy still beats that with 420 club goals from 100 less appearances.
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
Shame this is English players and not British as Ian Rush was the best of them all. Shearer was the best English striker though. Had Rooneys aggression with Linekers poaching. Defoe ffs, shouldn't even make top 20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 31 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Didn't Brian Clough have a better goal per game than Greaves!? Admittedly scored most of his from lower div though.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Greaves technically won a Serie A title
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Tbf irrelevant that Greaves didn't win loads and if anything scoring so regularly for average teams shows how good he was. If he was at say manu during 1960s then he'd have scored many more
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comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Greaves technically won a Serie A title
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Didn't he only play 20,25 games tho
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 hours, 43 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Top flight his record his the best ever pre war or post war. He really was a phenomental striker, and but for his problems would probably have played on longer, and scored another 100 goals or so. He returned at the top level remarkably young.
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Not in the list, but Rooney > Kane. And Shearer probably.
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I never understood the Rooney hype if I'm honest, he could do some magical stuff don't get me wrong buti don't think he was as good as some say.
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Totally agree mate. No doubt he was a very good player and very successful playing in an excellent United team through most his career, but Kane is no doubt the better striker.
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Exactly Don if he was as good as they say he would have ended up at Barcelona or Madrid.
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If Kane was as good as you say then he would have ended up at Barcelona, Madrid, Man Utd...
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He will.
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Doubt he will leave the Prem.
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I think if we win nothing this year he will go to Spain or Italy.
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wouldn't blame him but he might get found out in the wrong team
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posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 hours, 43 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Top flight his record his the best ever pre war or post war. He really was a phenomental striker, and but for his problems would probably have played on longer, and scored another 100 goals or so. He returned at the top level remarkably young.
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posted on 13/8/20
going backache original list.
All were top strikers in their time. But man, The Heart and Soul of Ian Wright.
What this guy managed to achieve through pure guts and determination. That's the stuff you want to bottle up
posted on 13/8/20
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 6 minutes ago
going backache original list.
All were top strikers in their time. But man, The Heart and Soul of Ian Wright.
What this guy managed to achieve through pure guts and determination. That's the stuff you want to bottle up
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A better player than many give credit for imo.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 8 minutes ago
going backache original list.
All were top strikers in their time. But man, The Heart and Soul of Ian Wright.
What this guy managed to achieve through pure guts and determination. That's the stuff you want to bottle up
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He bottled up his pure guts and spat them at Oldham fans.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 50 minutes ago
Greaves definitely one of the best in his era but the 2 eras (Greaves era and the PL) are so far apart and different it's hard to compare them. It's bad enough having Lineker in this debate.
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I agree cannot really compare Prem era with Greaves or Dean era. Prem era players have everything going for them.
Could you imagine Shearer or any modern day Prem player, playing with a ball that weighed a ton, playing on pitches ankle deep in mud with those heavy boots. Oh and getting some brutal on the field treatment from opposition defenders. See fella it work both ways.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
I am astonished everybody is arguing over Roobey, Kane and Shearer, when the real top two are:
Jimmy Greaves
Dixie Dean
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Dean played in the 1920s/30s. So it’s hard to judge him.
Greaves is up there for sure. The thing against him is that he got dropped during the World Cup and England won it with Hurst playing CF instead.
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The amount of goals they scored between them, make them a long way the best two English strikers ever.
After all isn't scoring goals what being the best striker is supposed to be about. Whatever the era.
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agree with these 2
my granddad was a die hard evertonian...lived near the ground and saw Dean play.
said he was the best CF he ever watched
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I never saw him play of course, but my Dad did, he said much the same.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 58 minutes ago
Steve Bloomer
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Great record.
posted on 13/8/20
Unfair having a Sheringham in here, one of the most underrated strikers and not for him a lot of his strike partners wouldn't have as many goals as they did, brilliant link up player as well as bagging a good number himself.
1. Shearer
2. Kane
Owen when he was young looked different gravy and was great to watch.
All great players and yeah Rooney should be in the mix too although he is also in the Sheringham category more than a Kane and Shearer, but scored more goals.
posted on 13/8/20
Fowler.
posted on 13/8/20
Rooney then Shearer probably
posted on 13/8/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
I am astonished everybody is arguing over Roobey, Kane and Shearer, when the real top two are:
Jimmy Greaves
Dixie Dean
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Dean played in the 1920s/30s. So it’s hard to judge him.
Greaves is up there for sure. The thing against him is that he got dropped during the World Cup and England won it with Hurst playing CF instead.
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The amount of goals they scored between them, make them a long way the best two English strikers ever.
After all isn't scoring goals what being the best striker is supposed to be about. Whatever the era.
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agree with these 2
my granddad was a die hard evertonian...lived near the ground and saw Dean play.
said he was the best CF he ever watched
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I never saw him play of course, but my Dad did, he said much the same.
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How many great strikers were there before Dean?
posted on 13/8/20
My vote goes to Alan Shearer.
posted on 13/8/20
Shearer for me, 260 PL goals is phenomenal and that doesn't even include the goals he scored in the pre-Premier League seasons he played in. Coupled with the fact that he scored most of them for Newcastle who weren't a top side.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by peks - 1974 (U6618)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
I am astonished everybody is arguing over Roobey, Kane and Shearer, when the real top two are:
Jimmy Greaves
Dixie Dean
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Dean played in the 1920s/30s. So it’s hard to judge him.
Greaves is up there for sure. The thing against him is that he got dropped during the World Cup and England won it with Hurst playing CF instead.
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The amount of goals they scored between them, make them a long way the best two English strikers ever.
After all isn't scoring goals what being the best striker is supposed to be about. Whatever the era.
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agree with these 2
my granddad was a die hard evertonian...lived near the ground and saw Dean play.
said he was the best CF he ever watched
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I never saw him play of course, but my Dad did, he said much the same.
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p
How many great strikers were there before Dean?
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A lit as long as your arm fella.
The top goalscorers of all time in the top flight, Prem and 1st division goals only.
Jimmy Greaves 357
Steve Bloomer 314
Dixie Dean 310
Gordon Hodgson 287
Alan Shearer 283
Davi Jack 257
Charlie Buchan 257
Nat Lofthouse 255
Joe Bradford 248
Hugie Gallagher 246
Joe Smith 243
George Brown 240
George Camsell 233
Dean would have been higher, but he spent a couple of seasons in the 2nd division, where he scored a lot more.
You don`t think scoring goals was only invented with the Premiership.
In fact only one Premiership player on that list. Of that list I myself only saw Greaves, Lofthouse and Shearer player.
They must have all been great players in their own right, and I doubt many of those goal tallies will be broken by many modern players.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 4 minutes ago
Shearer for me, 260 PL goals is phenomenal and that doesn't even include the goals he scored in the pre-Premier League seasons he played in. Coupled with the fact that he scored most of them for Newcastle who weren't a top side.
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Just the nearly 100 goals behind Jimmy, but a decent total.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 4 minutes ago
Shearer for me, 260 PL goals is phenomenal and that doesn't even include the goals he scored in the pre-Premier League seasons he played in. Coupled with the fact that he scored most of them for Newcastle who weren't a top side.
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Just the nearly 100 goals behind Jimmy, but a decent total.
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Shearer's career total is 379 club goals. The 260 is PL goals.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 4 minutes ago
Shearer for me, 260 PL goals is phenomenal and that doesn't even include the goals he scored in the pre-Premier League seasons he played in. Coupled with the fact that he scored most of them for Newcastle who weren't a top side.
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Just the nearly 100 goals behind Jimmy, but a decent total.
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Shearer's career total is 379 club goals. The 260 is PL goals.
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Jimmy still beats that with 420 club goals from 100 less appearances.
posted on 13/8/20
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
posted on 13/8/20
Shame this is English players and not British as Ian Rush was the best of them all. Shearer was the best English striker though. Had Rooneys aggression with Linekers poaching. Defoe ffs, shouldn't even make top 20
posted on 13/8/20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 31 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Didn't Brian Clough have a better goal per game than Greaves!? Admittedly scored most of his from lower div though.
posted on 13/8/20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Greaves technically won a Serie A title
posted on 13/8/20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Tbf irrelevant that Greaves didn't win loads and if anything scoring so regularly for average teams shows how good he was. If he was at say manu during 1960s then he'd have scored many more
posted on 13/8/20
comment by Cinciwolf---Wolves-4th best side in the country---VAR 'not so fast'!! (U11551)
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comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 34 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Greaves technically won a Serie A title
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Didn't he only play 20,25 games tho
posted on 14/8/20
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 hours, 43 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Top flight his record his the best ever pre war or post war. He really was a phenomental striker, and but for his problems would probably have played on longer, and scored another 100 goals or so. He returned at the top level remarkably young.
posted on 14/8/20
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Not in the list, but Rooney > Kane. And Shearer probably.
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I never understood the Rooney hype if I'm honest, he could do some magical stuff don't get me wrong buti don't think he was as good as some say.
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Totally agree mate. No doubt he was a very good player and very successful playing in an excellent United team through most his career, but Kane is no doubt the better striker.
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Exactly Don if he was as good as they say he would have ended up at Barcelona or Madrid.
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If Kane was as good as you say then he would have ended up at Barcelona, Madrid, Man Utd...
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He will.
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Doubt he will leave the Prem.
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I think if we win nothing this year he will go to Spain or Italy.
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wouldn't blame him but he might get found out in the wrong team
posted on 14/8/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 10 hours, 43 minutes ago
Greaves' goal-record is the best of any English player since Pre-WW2. For club and country he banged them in, and even Shearer, Rooney etc. don't have the same type of goal tally.
But Rooney won 5 PLs and 1 UCL and Greaves never won either.
Obviously if Greaves had played a key role during the World Cup run that would supersede everything else but he didn't.
If Greaves had played a major role in the World Cup win and won a league title or European Cup, he'd be the best British player ever. But that goes to Bobby Charlton atm imo (followed by Bale and Rooney).
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Top flight his record his the best ever pre war or post war. He really was a phenomental striker, and but for his problems would probably have played on longer, and scored another 100 goals or so. He returned at the top level remarkably young.
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