comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Worst government in my lifetime, just purely inept. How on earth did they get so many votes.
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I wish people would stop calling them inept. Their actions are entirely deliberate.
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Go and start your own political party if you can do it better
Sunak is no angel, him and his pals help crash RBS and made millions. He's as dodgy as the rest of them but younger.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 36 seconds ago
Sunak is no angel, him and his pals help crash RBS and made millions. He's as dodgy as the rest of them but younger.
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Probably but unfortunately and crucially the general public haven't really clicked on.
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 36 seconds ago
Sunak is no angel, him and his pals help crash RBS and made millions. He's as dodgy as the rest of them but younger.
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Probably but unfortunately and crucially the general public haven't really clicked on.
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Dont get me wrong, organising the furlough scheme so quick was a piece of work, he's a capable guy.
He's getting good press just now but his past and his willingness to be the yes-man Javid wouldn't be, he's out for himself.
''Encouraging that The European Union is standing up to this criminality though,''
----------------------------------------
The EU and ''crimilarity'' go hand in hand.
You should take the time to delve deeper into this rancid organisation.
comment by Shaun M - Bye bye, to the football league! (U9955)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Worst government in my lifetime, just purely inept. How on earth did they get so many votes.
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I wish people would stop calling them inept. Their actions are entirely deliberate.
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Go and start your own political party if you can do it better
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We have mate - it's called the SNP. But thanks for the advice, command join us. 😉
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 9 minutes ago
''Encouraging that The European Union is standing up to this criminality though,''
----------------------------------------
The EU and ''crimilarity'' go hand in hand.
You should take the time to delve deeper into this rancid organisation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like any intergovernmental organisation (comprising of a host of countries with various institutions) the EU isn't some nirvana of organisational competence. Look at Poland, Hungary and even Italy.
But please, 5 years since the referendum announcement can we move away from the inane and quite frankly absurd narrative that leaving the EU represents the UK freeing itself from corruption.
But please, 5 years since the referendum announcement can we move away from the inane and quite frankly absurd narrative that leaving the EU represents the UK freeing itself from corruption.
--------------------------------------------------
Who said that?
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 9 seconds ago
But please, 5 years since the referendum announcement can we move away from the inane and quite frankly absurd narrative that leaving the EU represents the UK freeing itself from corruption.
--------------------------------------------------
Who said that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You cited EU criminality. "The EU and ''crimilarity' go hand in hand."
Which, with all due respect is a comment often made by a bot, or Ukip/Brexit party reps often ignorant of the EU institutions.
Can you provide examples of the EU aiding and abetting criminality? And the subsequent ECJ legal determinations upholding? Or UN adjudication?
The EU is riddled with faults and disputes between member states, (just like the devolved UK nations & local councils).
EU+China Vs Five eyes+ India
Referee: Putin
Fight...
We bugga-ed our relationship with the Dominions when we joined the EU in 1973.
We were always a reluctant member.... farm subsidies, migrants,... etc.
It was predictable from the beginning that we would want out.....and here we are....bugga-ed everywhere in world!
Only person that will give us a helping hand right now?
I'll bet you can't guess!
Here's the answer.............
Donald J Trump <whistle.......
The pound has crashed. I wonder why?
#pariahstate
The whole Brexit thing was an ill-thought and dumb idea. The Good Friday agreement will be the first casualty. And the combination of Brexit and corona will plunge the pound and the economy even further.
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 32 minutes ago
The whole Brexit thing was an ill-thought and dumb idea. The Good Friday agreement will be the first casualty. And the combination of Brexit and corona will plunge the pound and the economy even further.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the border problem was hardly mentioned during the debate. All Brexit camp said like it was easy to deal with, especially technology will be available.
We're heading to no deal unfortunately. I can see Boris going for it as it will be perfect time for this. 20 or 23% of GDP will not make a lot differences, Covid will be their excuse.
Boris and Dom are playing the same strategy as they did last year. Tried to make some noise just to get other reaction to get what they want. They had the GE at the time they need, now they will get the No deal brexit
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 11 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Worst government in my lifetime, just purely inept. How on earth did they get so many votes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wish people would stop calling them inept. Their actions are entirely deliberate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
absolutely agree
End game here is no-deal so GB can regain its ‘sovereignty’ in full. BoJo is taunting the EU to get them to walk away. No deal carries enormous consequences so BoJo is looking for a scapegoat he can point and say ‘they are the reason for no deal’.
No Deal was always the intended destination for these charlatans, their Hedge Fund masters demanded it.
The negotiations have been a farce from day one. The U.K. never negotiated in good faith as they always knew there wasn’t a cats chance in hell of the EU agreeing to what they were asking for.
comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 18 seconds ago
End game here is no-deal so GB can regain its ‘sovereignty’ in full. BoJo is taunting the EU to get them to walk away. No deal carries enormous consequences so BoJo is looking for a scapegoat he can point and say ‘they are the reason for no deal’.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No agreement means the UK spending years, (much like the Swiss) negotiating with the EU to mitigate the damage and salvage what was left of interconnected UK/EU supply chains etc.
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 5 seconds ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
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Yes.
Out of the Customs Union means a hard border, we’ve known that for 5 years at least.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 18 seconds ago
End game here is no-deal so GB can regain its ‘sovereignty’ in full. BoJo is taunting the EU to get them to walk away. No deal carries enormous consequences so BoJo is looking for a scapegoat he can point and say ‘they are the reason for no deal’.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No agreement means the UK spending years, (much like the Swiss) negotiating with the EU to mitigate the damage and salvage what was left of interconnected UK/EU supply chains etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, that’s exactly what will happen.
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 minutes ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
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NI (as per the WA) will still remain in the SM for manufactured goods and agrifoods.
So even in a no deal scenario north south border checks would be nominal (and would look the same as it does now).
But if the internal market bill passes it would result in additional checks at the Irish land border which republican dissidents would only be too happy to exploit.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 minutes ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NI (as per the WA) will still remain in the SM for manufactured goods and agrifoods.
So even in a no deal scenario north south border checks would be nominal (and would look the same as it does now).
But if the internal market bill passes it would result in additional checks at the Irish land border which republican dissidents would only be too happy to exploit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In case of no deal, if NI remains in SM as in withdrawal agreement, we would be pretty much giving up the Union. Scot will soon follow NI
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 minutes ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
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NI (as per the WA) will still remain in the SM for manufactured goods and agrifoods.
So even in a no deal scenario north south border checks would be nominal (and would look the same as it does now).
But if the internal market bill passes it would result in additional checks at the Irish land border which republican dissidents would only be too happy to exploit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who would carry out those checks?
Unionists are not happy with checks and charges between NI and GB with the present Irish sea border plan, so one side will be annoyed .
..and the GFA seeks to respect both traditions,,so the agreement is being bent either way.
There is no easy solution to this.
Just have to keep our heads.
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 minutes ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NI (as per the WA) will still remain in the SM for manufactured goods and agrifoods.
So even in a no deal scenario north south border checks would be nominal (and would look the same as it does now).
But if the internal market bill passes it would result in additional checks at the Irish land border which republican dissidents would only be too happy to exploit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In case of no deal, if NI remains in SM as in withdrawal agreement, we would be pretty much giving up the Union. Scot will soon follow NI
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating NI differently or separately from the rest of the UK road a cart and horses through the GFA, but some people only see how border checks and constitutional issues impact the nationalist republican side...which of course it does.
Scots were 45 per Indy before brexit and Boris so that may have tipped the balance there now.
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posted on 10/9/20
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Worst government in my lifetime, just purely inept. How on earth did they get so many votes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wish people would stop calling them inept. Their actions are entirely deliberate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Go and start your own political party if you can do it better
posted on 10/9/20
Sunak is no angel, him and his pals help crash RBS and made millions. He's as dodgy as the rest of them but younger.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 36 seconds ago
Sunak is no angel, him and his pals help crash RBS and made millions. He's as dodgy as the rest of them but younger.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably but unfortunately and crucially the general public haven't really clicked on.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Anne Ziety (U22412)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 36 seconds ago
Sunak is no angel, him and his pals help crash RBS and made millions. He's as dodgy as the rest of them but younger.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably but unfortunately and crucially the general public haven't really clicked on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dont get me wrong, organising the furlough scheme so quick was a piece of work, he's a capable guy.
He's getting good press just now but his past and his willingness to be the yes-man Javid wouldn't be, he's out for himself.
posted on 10/9/20
''Encouraging that The European Union is standing up to this criminality though,''
----------------------------------------
The EU and ''crimilarity'' go hand in hand.
You should take the time to delve deeper into this rancid organisation.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Shaun M - Bye bye, to the football league! (U9955)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Worst government in my lifetime, just purely inept. How on earth did they get so many votes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wish people would stop calling them inept. Their actions are entirely deliberate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Go and start your own political party if you can do it better
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have mate - it's called the SNP. But thanks for the advice, command join us. 😉
posted on 10/9/20
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 9 minutes ago
''Encouraging that The European Union is standing up to this criminality though,''
----------------------------------------
The EU and ''crimilarity'' go hand in hand.
You should take the time to delve deeper into this rancid organisation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like any intergovernmental organisation (comprising of a host of countries with various institutions) the EU isn't some nirvana of organisational competence. Look at Poland, Hungary and even Italy.
But please, 5 years since the referendum announcement can we move away from the inane and quite frankly absurd narrative that leaving the EU represents the UK freeing itself from corruption.
posted on 10/9/20
But please, 5 years since the referendum announcement can we move away from the inane and quite frankly absurd narrative that leaving the EU represents the UK freeing itself from corruption.
--------------------------------------------------
Who said that?
posted on 10/9/20
comment by ...TUX... (U22398)
posted 9 seconds ago
But please, 5 years since the referendum announcement can we move away from the inane and quite frankly absurd narrative that leaving the EU represents the UK freeing itself from corruption.
--------------------------------------------------
Who said that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You cited EU criminality. "The EU and ''crimilarity' go hand in hand."
Which, with all due respect is a comment often made by a bot, or Ukip/Brexit party reps often ignorant of the EU institutions.
Can you provide examples of the EU aiding and abetting criminality? And the subsequent ECJ legal determinations upholding? Or UN adjudication?
The EU is riddled with faults and disputes between member states, (just like the devolved UK nations & local councils).
posted on 11/9/20
EU+China Vs Five eyes+ India
Referee: Putin
Fight...
posted on 11/9/20
We bugga-ed our relationship with the Dominions when we joined the EU in 1973.
We were always a reluctant member.... farm subsidies, migrants,... etc.
It was predictable from the beginning that we would want out.....and here we are....bugga-ed everywhere in world!
Only person that will give us a helping hand right now?
I'll bet you can't guess!
Here's the answer.............
Donald J Trump <whistle.......
posted on 11/9/20
The pound has crashed. I wonder why?
#pariahstate
posted on 11/9/20
The whole Brexit thing was an ill-thought and dumb idea. The Good Friday agreement will be the first casualty. And the combination of Brexit and corona will plunge the pound and the economy even further.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 32 minutes ago
The whole Brexit thing was an ill-thought and dumb idea. The Good Friday agreement will be the first casualty. And the combination of Brexit and corona will plunge the pound and the economy even further.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the border problem was hardly mentioned during the debate. All Brexit camp said like it was easy to deal with, especially technology will be available.
We're heading to no deal unfortunately. I can see Boris going for it as it will be perfect time for this. 20 or 23% of GDP will not make a lot differences, Covid will be their excuse.
Boris and Dom are playing the same strategy as they did last year. Tried to make some noise just to get other reaction to get what they want. They had the GE at the time they need, now they will get the No deal brexit
posted on 11/9/20
comment by Drunken Hobo (U7360)
posted 11 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
Worst government in my lifetime, just purely inept. How on earth did they get so many votes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wish people would stop calling them inept. Their actions are entirely deliberate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
absolutely agree
posted on 11/9/20
End game here is no-deal so GB can regain its ‘sovereignty’ in full. BoJo is taunting the EU to get them to walk away. No deal carries enormous consequences so BoJo is looking for a scapegoat he can point and say ‘they are the reason for no deal’.
posted on 11/9/20
No Deal was always the intended destination for these charlatans, their Hedge Fund masters demanded it.
The negotiations have been a farce from day one. The U.K. never negotiated in good faith as they always knew there wasn’t a cats chance in hell of the EU agreeing to what they were asking for.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 18 seconds ago
End game here is no-deal so GB can regain its ‘sovereignty’ in full. BoJo is taunting the EU to get them to walk away. No deal carries enormous consequences so BoJo is looking for a scapegoat he can point and say ‘they are the reason for no deal’.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No agreement means the UK spending years, (much like the Swiss) negotiating with the EU to mitigate the damage and salvage what was left of interconnected UK/EU supply chains etc.
posted on 11/9/20
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
posted on 11/9/20
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 5 seconds ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes.
Out of the Customs Union means a hard border, we’ve known that for 5 years at least.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Hansaplast (U1250)
posted 18 seconds ago
End game here is no-deal so GB can regain its ‘sovereignty’ in full. BoJo is taunting the EU to get them to walk away. No deal carries enormous consequences so BoJo is looking for a scapegoat he can point and say ‘they are the reason for no deal’.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No agreement means the UK spending years, (much like the Swiss) negotiating with the EU to mitigate the damage and salvage what was left of interconnected UK/EU supply chains etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep, that’s exactly what will happen.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 minutes ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NI (as per the WA) will still remain in the SM for manufactured goods and agrifoods.
So even in a no deal scenario north south border checks would be nominal (and would look the same as it does now).
But if the internal market bill passes it would result in additional checks at the Irish land border which republican dissidents would only be too happy to exploit.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 minutes ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NI (as per the WA) will still remain in the SM for manufactured goods and agrifoods.
So even in a no deal scenario north south border checks would be nominal (and would look the same as it does now).
But if the internal market bill passes it would result in additional checks at the Irish land border which republican dissidents would only be too happy to exploit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In case of no deal, if NI remains in SM as in withdrawal agreement, we would be pretty much giving up the Union. Scot will soon follow NI
posted on 11/9/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 minutes ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NI (as per the WA) will still remain in the SM for manufactured goods and agrifoods.
So even in a no deal scenario north south border checks would be nominal (and would look the same as it does now).
But if the internal market bill passes it would result in additional checks at the Irish land border which republican dissidents would only be too happy to exploit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who would carry out those checks?
Unionists are not happy with checks and charges between NI and GB with the present Irish sea border plan, so one side will be annoyed .
..and the GFA seeks to respect both traditions,,so the agreement is being bent either way.
There is no easy solution to this.
Just have to keep our heads.
posted on 11/9/20
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Relations Secretary (U3126)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by red_evils (U19878)
posted 2 minutes ago
Easy to say No deal. But even if we go for it, will we have border between Ireland and NI?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NI (as per the WA) will still remain in the SM for manufactured goods and agrifoods.
So even in a no deal scenario north south border checks would be nominal (and would look the same as it does now).
But if the internal market bill passes it would result in additional checks at the Irish land border which republican dissidents would only be too happy to exploit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In case of no deal, if NI remains in SM as in withdrawal agreement, we would be pretty much giving up the Union. Scot will soon follow NI
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating NI differently or separately from the rest of the UK road a cart and horses through the GFA, but some people only see how border checks and constitutional issues impact the nationalist republican side...which of course it does.
Scots were 45 per Indy before brexit and Boris so that may have tipped the balance there now.
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