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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/16186556
Suarez was banned for “racially abusing” Evra.
It’s the same word. It’s doesn’t matter about context.
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It absolutely matters about context.
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Then go find a black person and call them the n-word. I trust that you’ll be fine if you say it while smiling.
That’s pretty much what you’re saying.
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I haven’t said any such thing.
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Yeah you did. You said it “matters about context”.
There is ZERO difference between the N-word and the term Cavani used.
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I hate saying this, but I don’t think you know what “context” means. Your last sentence pretty much confirms that.
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posted 33 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
All this comes down to is how much you put faith in the FA's 'court' that has a 99%+ conviction rate and whether you actually believe either Suarez or Cavani are a big fat racist.
Soooooo many Utd fans have treated the finding as verbatim set in stone bonafide truth. Lol.
We all know the Suarez thing wouldn't have even made court but now, I tell ya, if the FA ban him and these mental gymnasts defend him... lovely stuff.
Football!
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I for one don’t believe that either Suarez or Cavani is “racist”.
I believe one of them used a word with possible racial connotations in an argument, whereas the other one used the same word in what seems to have been a good-natured exchange. I also believe that the latter should have been more aware of what he was saying due to the former’s experience.
What I don’t believe is that this needs explaining.
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But do you believe in law? I'd also add that if you are not racist, then you cannot be racist by proxy.
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comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
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comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
You don't understand Uruguayan verbal context
No, YOU don't understand Uruguayan verbal context!
<angrywomancatmeme>
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The “Uruguayan” context is not the most important one here. The heated argument versus congratulatory tweet context is surely the one to focus on.
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Yeah if you believe Evra who let's face it is an utter gobsheite who I've seen say far worse on Twitter. Perhaps Suarez was telling the truth, as said no one else heard it did they. Not one person.
Create your own narratives all you like.
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So now the issue is not that Cavani and Suarez said the same word, but that we don’t know if Suarez said it at all?
Can any word be racist on it's own, if you say a word in a positive response with a symbol of a handshake next to it. If that in any way can be misinterpreted then I'd say probably yes, there might be cause for someone to be upset about it and take it personally but I find it hard to believe anyone would take that response personal or negatively in any way, despite problematic words used. I might be wrong though.
Suarez used a problematic word to express hate. That's racist. Cavani hasn't, so I'm not sure.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
We sure as hell won't make tshirts defending him if he's found guilty of anything like you prats did.
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It was casual form of racism at its worst
The word is common in South America as a term of endearment, translated into English gives it complete different meaning
Term of endearment or not it's a far more PC driven culture here, something Ed may not have been aware of.
My Asian friends refer to one another using the P word, some black friends do the same to one another. However, outside of those circles the meaning would be lost and more offence taken by easily sensitive ears.
I do not condone or endorse what Edi said, if the FA deem it a disrepute charge then so be it. Utd will also encourage him to educate himself in the area of race and language deemed inappropriate in the UK.
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
All this comes down to is how much you put faith in the FA's 'court' that has a 99%+ conviction rate and whether you actually believe either Suarez or Cavani are a big fat racist.
Soooooo many Utd fans have treated the finding as verbatim set in stone bonafide truth. Lol.
We all know the Suarez thing wouldn't have even made court but now, I tell ya, if the FA ban him and these mental gymnasts defend him... lovely stuff.
Football!
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I for one don’t believe that either Suarez or Cavani is “racist”.
I believe one of them used a word with possible racial connotations in an argument, whereas the other one used the same word in what seems to have been a good-natured exchange. I also believe that the latter should have been more aware of what he was saying due to the former’s experience.
What I don’t believe is that this needs explaining.
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But do you believe in law? I'd also add that if you are not racist, then you cannot be racist by proxy.
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No need to limber up for a back-flip: I understand all those words but have no idea what you’re asking me. The best answer I can give is the one I’ve already given.
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
You don't understand Uruguayan verbal context
No, YOU don't understand Uruguayan verbal context!
<angrywomancatmeme>
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The “Uruguayan” context is not the most important one here. The heated argument versus congratulatory tweet context is surely the one to focus on.
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Yeah if you believe Evra who let's face it is an utter gobsheite who I've seen say far worse on Twitter. Perhaps Suarez was telling the truth, as said no one else heard it did they. Not one person.
Create your own narratives all you like.
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So now the issue is not that Cavani and Suarez said the same word, but that we don’t know if Suarez said it at all?
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Err no Suarez openly admits he said it.
Look it's fine, at no pint do I think Suarez or Cavani are anything even approaching racist, but watching certain Utd fans on is a bit cringeworthy tbh.
Of course, the whole term of endearment thing, which is actually true... except Suarez obviously used it differently.
but watching certain Utd fans on is a bit cringeworthy tbh.
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Oh, we're all thinking the same thing about you and your mate right now, make no mistake about that.
comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/16186556
Suarez was banned for “racially abusing” Evra.
It’s the same word. It’s doesn’t matter about context.
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It absolutely matters about context.
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Then go find a black person and call them the n-word. I trust that you’ll be fine if you say it while smiling.
That’s pretty much what you’re saying.
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I haven’t said any such thing.
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Yeah you did. You said it “matters about context”.
There is ZERO difference between the N-word and the term Cavani used.
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I hate saying this, but I don’t think you know what “context” means. Your last sentence pretty much confirms that.
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Here we go. Don’t like the counter argument so I must not know what the word means.
Please, son. Here’s the deal, take my advice from earlier. Do it. Prove me wrong.
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Sorry, I wasn’t aware you’d made a counter-argument. I’ll say what I said to Robbing:
I for one don’t believe that either Suarez or Cavani is “racist”.
I believe one of them used a word with possible racial connotations in an argument, whereas the other one used the same word in what seems to have been a good-natured exchange. I also believe that the latter should have been more aware of what he was saying due to the former’s experience.
The WORD may be the same but the CONTEXT is different - one was an argument, the other a congratulatory exchange. If you genuinely don’t think the same word can have a different weight in two clearly different contexts, then there is no point continuing this debate (or, indeed, any other).
Look he didn't mean it, he's got a black mate okay! He only meant it as a laugh! Term of endearment even, but I'm positive the other one didn't!
Nauseating.
Liverpool fans getting owned here.
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
You don't understand Uruguayan verbal context
No, YOU don't understand Uruguayan verbal context!
<angrywomancatmeme>
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The “Uruguayan” context is not the most important one here. The heated argument versus congratulatory tweet context is surely the one to focus on.
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Yeah if you believe Evra who let's face it is an utter gobsheite who I've seen say far worse on Twitter. Perhaps Suarez was telling the truth, as said no one else heard it did they. Not one person.
Create your own narratives all you like.
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So now the issue is not that Cavani and Suarez said the same word, but that we don’t know if Suarez said it at all?
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Err no Suarez openly admits he said it.
Look it's fine, at no pint do I think Suarez or Cavani are anything even approaching racist, but watching certain Utd fans on is a bit cringeworthy tbh.
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Sorry, you’ve completely lost me. No idea what your your view is on this now or what your issue is with the United fans’ responses.
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comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
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comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/16186556
Suarez was banned for “racially abusing” Evra.
It’s the same word. It’s doesn’t matter about context.
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It absolutely matters about context.
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Then go find a black person and call them the n-word. I trust that you’ll be fine if you say it while smiling.
That’s pretty much what you’re saying.
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I haven’t said any such thing.
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Yeah you did. You said it “matters about context”.
There is ZERO difference between the N-word and the term Cavani used.
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I hate saying this, but I don’t think you know what “context” means. Your last sentence pretty much confirms that.
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Here we go. Don’t like the counter argument so I must not know what the word means.
Please, son. Here’s the deal, take my advice from earlier. Do it. Prove me wrong.
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Sorry, I wasn’t aware you’d made a counter-argument. I’ll say what I said to Robbing:
I for one don’t believe that either Suarez or Cavani is “racist”.
I believe one of them used a word with possible racial connotations in an argument, whereas the other one used the same word in what seems to have been a good-natured exchange. I also believe that the latter should have been more aware of what he was saying due to the former’s experience.
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No problem with any of this! My little emoji there was not directed at this.
I genuinely believe Evra is full of sh!t fwiw.
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 1 minute ago
Liverpool fans getting owned here.
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Really is embarrassing this.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 1 minute ago
Liverpool fans getting owned here.
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Really is embarrassing this.
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Agreed
This would've been a non story if not for spiteful liverpool fans.
If you dont understand I'd ask you to consider this.
That Suarez told the truth and Evra lied. That's it. Read the report, actually read it, and judge for yourselves. Not palatable I'm sure.
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 23 seconds ago
This would've been a non story if not for spiteful liverpool fans.
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Yes Liverpool fans control every media outlet going, good post. Fml.
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Look he didn't mean it, he's got a black mate okay! He only meant it as a laugh! Term of endearment even, but I'm positive the other one didn't!
Nauseating.
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When I’ve already said, and pretty much spelled out, that I’m not talking about the “Uruguayan/term of endearment” context, why keep assuming I am? I’m comparing argument versus congratulatory tweet. I think this is the third time I’ve said so.
This is an obvious attempt to tar UTD fans with the same brush, to push us into the same pigshytee pit you Suarez apologists made a home in and try to justify the morally bankrupt response led by your dinosaur of a legend Kenny.
Thats all you. Own it
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
If you dont understand I'd ask you to consider this.
That Suarez told the truth and Evra lied. That's it. Read the report, actually read it, and judge for yourselves. Not palatable I'm sure.
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Spiteful Scousers who still, after 9 years, choose to believe Suarez's version of events. Even though the FA found it to be totally unreliable, given the context, Evra's evidence and contradictions in the defences offered by Suarez's own Liverpool teammates.
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Look he didn't mean it, he's got a black mate okay! He only meant it as a laugh! Term of endearment even, but I'm positive the other one didn't!
Nauseating.
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When I’ve already said, and pretty much spelled out, that I’m not talking about the “Uruguayan/term of endearment” context, why keep assuming I am? I’m comparing argument versus congratulatory tweet. I think this is the third time I’ve said so.
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Genuinely no offense but not every post is about you.
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Look he didn't mean it, he's got a black mate okay! He only meant it as a laugh! Term of endearment even, but I'm positive the other one didn't!
Nauseating.
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When I’ve already said, and pretty much spelled out, that I’m not talking about the “Uruguayan/term of endearment” context, why keep assuming I am? I’m comparing argument versus congratulatory tweet. I think this is the third time I’ve said so.
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Genuinely no offense but not every post is about you.
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No, understood, but I think you are taking “context” to mean that and only that.
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comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
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comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/16186556
Suarez was banned for “racially abusing” Evra.
It’s the same word. It’s doesn’t matter about context.
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It absolutely matters about context.
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Then go find a black person and call them the n-word. I trust that you’ll be fine if you say it while smiling.
That’s pretty much what you’re saying.
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I haven’t said any such thing.
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Yeah you did. You said it “matters about context”.
There is ZERO difference between the N-word and the term Cavani used.
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I hate saying this, but I don’t think you know what “context” means. Your last sentence pretty much confirms that.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
All this comes down to is how much you put faith in the FA's 'court' that has a 99%+ conviction rate and whether you actually believe either Suarez or Cavani are a big fat racist.
Soooooo many Utd fans have treated the finding as verbatim set in stone bonafide truth. Lol.
We all know the Suarez thing wouldn't have even made court but now, I tell ya, if the FA ban him and these mental gymnasts defend him... lovely stuff.
Football!
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I for one don’t believe that either Suarez or Cavani is “racist”.
I believe one of them used a word with possible racial connotations in an argument, whereas the other one used the same word in what seems to have been a good-natured exchange. I also believe that the latter should have been more aware of what he was saying due to the former’s experience.
What I don’t believe is that this needs explaining.
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But do you believe in law? I'd also add that if you are not racist, then you cannot be racist by proxy.
<backflipdoublepikeincoming>
posted on 30/11/20
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posted on 30/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
You don't understand Uruguayan verbal context
No, YOU don't understand Uruguayan verbal context!
<angrywomancatmeme>
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The “Uruguayan” context is not the most important one here. The heated argument versus congratulatory tweet context is surely the one to focus on.
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Yeah if you believe Evra who let's face it is an utter gobsheite who I've seen say far worse on Twitter. Perhaps Suarez was telling the truth, as said no one else heard it did they. Not one person.
Create your own narratives all you like.
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So now the issue is not that Cavani and Suarez said the same word, but that we don’t know if Suarez said it at all?
posted on 30/11/20
Can any word be racist on it's own, if you say a word in a positive response with a symbol of a handshake next to it. If that in any way can be misinterpreted then I'd say probably yes, there might be cause for someone to be upset about it and take it personally but I find it hard to believe anyone would take that response personal or negatively in any way, despite problematic words used. I might be wrong though.
Suarez used a problematic word to express hate. That's racist. Cavani hasn't, so I'm not sure.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
We sure as hell won't make tshirts defending him if he's found guilty of anything like you prats did.
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It was casual form of racism at its worst
The word is common in South America as a term of endearment, translated into English gives it complete different meaning
Term of endearment or not it's a far more PC driven culture here, something Ed may not have been aware of.
My Asian friends refer to one another using the P word, some black friends do the same to one another. However, outside of those circles the meaning would be lost and more offence taken by easily sensitive ears.
I do not condone or endorse what Edi said, if the FA deem it a disrepute charge then so be it. Utd will also encourage him to educate himself in the area of race and language deemed inappropriate in the UK.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
All this comes down to is how much you put faith in the FA's 'court' that has a 99%+ conviction rate and whether you actually believe either Suarez or Cavani are a big fat racist.
Soooooo many Utd fans have treated the finding as verbatim set in stone bonafide truth. Lol.
We all know the Suarez thing wouldn't have even made court but now, I tell ya, if the FA ban him and these mental gymnasts defend him... lovely stuff.
Football!
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I for one don’t believe that either Suarez or Cavani is “racist”.
I believe one of them used a word with possible racial connotations in an argument, whereas the other one used the same word in what seems to have been a good-natured exchange. I also believe that the latter should have been more aware of what he was saying due to the former’s experience.
What I don’t believe is that this needs explaining.
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But do you believe in law? I'd also add that if you are not racist, then you cannot be racist by proxy.
<backflipdoublepikeincoming>
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No need to limber up for a back-flip: I understand all those words but have no idea what you’re asking me. The best answer I can give is the one I’ve already given.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
You don't understand Uruguayan verbal context
No, YOU don't understand Uruguayan verbal context!
<angrywomancatmeme>
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The “Uruguayan” context is not the most important one here. The heated argument versus congratulatory tweet context is surely the one to focus on.
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Yeah if you believe Evra who let's face it is an utter gobsheite who I've seen say far worse on Twitter. Perhaps Suarez was telling the truth, as said no one else heard it did they. Not one person.
Create your own narratives all you like.
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So now the issue is not that Cavani and Suarez said the same word, but that we don’t know if Suarez said it at all?
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Err no Suarez openly admits he said it.
Look it's fine, at no pint do I think Suarez or Cavani are anything even approaching racist, but watching certain Utd fans on is a bit cringeworthy tbh.
posted on 30/11/20
Of course, the whole term of endearment thing, which is actually true... except Suarez obviously used it differently.
posted on 30/11/20
but watching certain Utd fans on is a bit cringeworthy tbh.
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Oh, we're all thinking the same thing about you and your mate right now, make no mistake about that.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
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posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
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comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/16186556
Suarez was banned for “racially abusing” Evra.
It’s the same word. It’s doesn’t matter about context.
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It absolutely matters about context.
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Then go find a black person and call them the n-word. I trust that you’ll be fine if you say it while smiling.
That’s pretty much what you’re saying.
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I haven’t said any such thing.
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Yeah you did. You said it “matters about context”.
There is ZERO difference between the N-word and the term Cavani used.
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I hate saying this, but I don’t think you know what “context” means. Your last sentence pretty much confirms that.
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Here we go. Don’t like the counter argument so I must not know what the word means.
Please, son. Here’s the deal, take my advice from earlier. Do it. Prove me wrong.
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Sorry, I wasn’t aware you’d made a counter-argument. I’ll say what I said to Robbing:
I for one don’t believe that either Suarez or Cavani is “racist”.
I believe one of them used a word with possible racial connotations in an argument, whereas the other one used the same word in what seems to have been a good-natured exchange. I also believe that the latter should have been more aware of what he was saying due to the former’s experience.
The WORD may be the same but the CONTEXT is different - one was an argument, the other a congratulatory exchange. If you genuinely don’t think the same word can have a different weight in two clearly different contexts, then there is no point continuing this debate (or, indeed, any other).
posted on 30/11/20
Look he didn't mean it, he's got a black mate okay! He only meant it as a laugh! Term of endearment even, but I'm positive the other one didn't!
Nauseating.
posted on 30/11/20
Liverpool fans getting owned here.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
You don't understand Uruguayan verbal context
No, YOU don't understand Uruguayan verbal context!
<angrywomancatmeme>
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The “Uruguayan” context is not the most important one here. The heated argument versus congratulatory tweet context is surely the one to focus on.
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Yeah if you believe Evra who let's face it is an utter gobsheite who I've seen say far worse on Twitter. Perhaps Suarez was telling the truth, as said no one else heard it did they. Not one person.
Create your own narratives all you like.
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So now the issue is not that Cavani and Suarez said the same word, but that we don’t know if Suarez said it at all?
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Err no Suarez openly admits he said it.
Look it's fine, at no pint do I think Suarez or Cavani are anything even approaching racist, but watching certain Utd fans on is a bit cringeworthy tbh.
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Sorry, you’ve completely lost me. No idea what your your view is on this now or what your issue is with the United fans’ responses.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - VAR sucks (U12438)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/16186556
Suarez was banned for “racially abusing” Evra.
It’s the same word. It’s doesn’t matter about context.
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It absolutely matters about context.
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Then go find a black person and call them the n-word. I trust that you’ll be fine if you say it while smiling.
That’s pretty much what you’re saying.
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I haven’t said any such thing.
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Yeah you did. You said it “matters about context”.
There is ZERO difference between the N-word and the term Cavani used.
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I hate saying this, but I don’t think you know what “context” means. Your last sentence pretty much confirms that.
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Here we go. Don’t like the counter argument so I must not know what the word means.
Please, son. Here’s the deal, take my advice from earlier. Do it. Prove me wrong.
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Sorry, I wasn’t aware you’d made a counter-argument. I’ll say what I said to Robbing:
I for one don’t believe that either Suarez or Cavani is “racist”.
I believe one of them used a word with possible racial connotations in an argument, whereas the other one used the same word in what seems to have been a good-natured exchange. I also believe that the latter should have been more aware of what he was saying due to the former’s experience.
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No problem with any of this! My little emoji there was not directed at this.
I genuinely believe Evra is full of sh!t fwiw.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 1 minute ago
Liverpool fans getting owned here.
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Really is embarrassing this.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 1 minute ago
Liverpool fans getting owned here.
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Really is embarrassing this.
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Agreed
posted on 30/11/20
This would've been a non story if not for spiteful liverpool fans.
posted on 30/11/20
If you dont understand I'd ask you to consider this.
That Suarez told the truth and Evra lied. That's it. Read the report, actually read it, and judge for yourselves. Not palatable I'm sure.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Chelsea_badger (U22493)
posted 23 seconds ago
This would've been a non story if not for spiteful liverpool fans.
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Yes Liverpool fans control every media outlet going, good post. Fml.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Look he didn't mean it, he's got a black mate okay! He only meant it as a laugh! Term of endearment even, but I'm positive the other one didn't!
Nauseating.
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When I’ve already said, and pretty much spelled out, that I’m not talking about the “Uruguayan/term of endearment” context, why keep assuming I am? I’m comparing argument versus congratulatory tweet. I think this is the third time I’ve said so.
posted on 30/11/20
This is an obvious attempt to tar UTD fans with the same brush, to push us into the same pigshytee pit you Suarez apologists made a home in and try to justify the morally bankrupt response led by your dinosaur of a legend Kenny.
Thats all you. Own it
posted on 30/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
If you dont understand I'd ask you to consider this.
That Suarez told the truth and Evra lied. That's it. Read the report, actually read it, and judge for yourselves. Not palatable I'm sure.
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Spiteful Scousers who still, after 9 years, choose to believe Suarez's version of events. Even though the FA found it to be totally unreliable, given the context, Evra's evidence and contradictions in the defences offered by Suarez's own Liverpool teammates.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Look he didn't mean it, he's got a black mate okay! He only meant it as a laugh! Term of endearment even, but I'm positive the other one didn't!
Nauseating.
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When I’ve already said, and pretty much spelled out, that I’m not talking about the “Uruguayan/term of endearment” context, why keep assuming I am? I’m comparing argument versus congratulatory tweet. I think this is the third time I’ve said so.
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Genuinely no offense but not every post is about you.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Look he didn't mean it, he's got a black mate okay! He only meant it as a laugh! Term of endearment even, but I'm positive the other one didn't!
Nauseating.
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When I’ve already said, and pretty much spelled out, that I’m not talking about the “Uruguayan/term of endearment” context, why keep assuming I am? I’m comparing argument versus congratulatory tweet. I think this is the third time I’ve said so.
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Genuinely no offense but not every post is about you.
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No, understood, but I think you are taking “context” to mean that and only that.
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