Looks like Jota is out for eight weeks.
Fulham are showing that liverpool can be got at, playing really well in the first half. They could do with getting a second while they're on top though.
Letting 2000 home crowd in to selected games is totally unfair!
There should be no supporters allowed to attend games until all 20 clubs are cleared to let fans in.
It's blindingly obvious the affect that the supporters are having. They pushed Liverpool at Anfield against us and now are having the same affect on Fulham.
I find it bizarre that crowds are limited to 2,000 then most, and all in some grounds, are being sat in the same stand
Agree with Gem, totally unfair advantage.
A great point for Fulham who played some lovely stuff. Undone by another handball decision which was not reviewed by VAR
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted about an hour ago
I find it bizarre that crowds are limited to 2,000 then most, and all in some grounds, are being sat in the same stand
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That occurred to me Spangles. Surely if you can have 2,000 fans all in one stand, why not have 8,000 fans spread around 4 stands. Covid-wise it must be the same effect. Any risk must happen in the stand itself, and in the concourse below (toilets, etc), not in the streets before and after the game. Or if you want to be ultra-cautious have 2,000 fans across the 4 stands.
comment by GeminMallorca Wenger sort out VAR FFS! (U18318)
posted 42 minutes ago
A great point for Fulham who played some lovely stuff. Undone by another handball decision which was not reviewed by VAR
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And another which even after a VAR review wasn't given for the foul on Cavaleiro. Very worrying that when the ref isn't shown the angle that showed conclusively it was s pen.
comment by Oldgoldilox - 1 Carl Ikeme (U17303)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by GeminMallorca Wenger sort out VAR FFS! (U18318)
posted 42 minutes ago
A great point for Fulham who played some lovely stuff. Undone by another handball decision which was not reviewed by VAR
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And another which even after a VAR review wasn't given for the foul on Cavaleiro. Very worrying that when the ref isn't shown the angle that showed conclusively it was s pen.
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I wouldn't say worrying. I would say blatant cheating
Still feel that Adama should have got a penalty when Grealish fouled him.
I don't understand how they think they can get away with such corruption when there are so many witnesses to their cheating.
comment by Wulfrunnut (U17298)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted about an hour ago
I find it bizarre that crowds are limited to 2,000 then most, and all in some grounds, are being sat in the same stand
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That occurred to me Spangles. Surely if you can have 2,000 fans all in one stand, why not have 8,000 fans spread around 4 stands. Covid-wise it must be the same effect. Any risk must happen in the stand itself, and in the concourse below (toilets, etc), not in the streets before and after the game. Or if you want to be ultra-cautious have 2,000 fans across the 4 stands.
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Thing is it's not just inside the ground it's in the streets outside too where even if it's outside it's pushing it a bit too have 8000 people milling around. Opening other stands means more staff and stewards too so 8000 can quickly become 8500 or more. That said I think 4000 would be a sensible number for most premier league grounds.
I don't really have a problem with the rules as they stand at the moment, the smaller clubs desperately need the revenue and at premier league level having 2000 opposition fans in shouldn't affect your performance unduly.
Been to Molineux a few times in the early rounds of the league cup when half the ground is closed and well less than 10,000 inside. Not much atmosphere generated really. 2,000 in a stadium built for 10,000 would create a much better atmosphere than 2,000 in a stadium built for over 30,000
Always wondered how weird it must have been to go to Hampden when the capacity was 120,000 to watch a Queens Park home game. Or to go to the old Wembley when they held greyhound meetings with crowds of a few hundred
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posted on 13/12/20
Looks like Jota is out for eight weeks.
posted on 13/12/20
Fulham are showing that liverpool can be got at, playing really well in the first half. They could do with getting a second while they're on top though.
posted on 13/12/20
Letting 2000 home crowd in to selected games is totally unfair!
There should be no supporters allowed to attend games until all 20 clubs are cleared to let fans in.
It's blindingly obvious the affect that the supporters are having. They pushed Liverpool at Anfield against us and now are having the same affect on Fulham.
posted on 13/12/20
I find it bizarre that crowds are limited to 2,000 then most, and all in some grounds, are being sat in the same stand
posted on 13/12/20
Agree with Gem, totally unfair advantage.
posted on 13/12/20
A great point for Fulham who played some lovely stuff. Undone by another handball decision which was not reviewed by VAR
posted on 13/12/20
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted about an hour ago
I find it bizarre that crowds are limited to 2,000 then most, and all in some grounds, are being sat in the same stand
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That occurred to me Spangles. Surely if you can have 2,000 fans all in one stand, why not have 8,000 fans spread around 4 stands. Covid-wise it must be the same effect. Any risk must happen in the stand itself, and in the concourse below (toilets, etc), not in the streets before and after the game. Or if you want to be ultra-cautious have 2,000 fans across the 4 stands.
posted on 13/12/20
comment by GeminMallorca Wenger sort out VAR FFS! (U18318)
posted 42 minutes ago
A great point for Fulham who played some lovely stuff. Undone by another handball decision which was not reviewed by VAR
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And another which even after a VAR review wasn't given for the foul on Cavaleiro. Very worrying that when the ref isn't shown the angle that showed conclusively it was s pen.
posted on 13/12/20
comment by Oldgoldilox - 1 Carl Ikeme (U17303)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by GeminMallorca Wenger sort out VAR FFS! (U18318)
posted 42 minutes ago
A great point for Fulham who played some lovely stuff. Undone by another handball decision which was not reviewed by VAR
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And another which even after a VAR review wasn't given for the foul on Cavaleiro. Very worrying that when the ref isn't shown the angle that showed conclusively it was s pen.
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I wouldn't say worrying. I would say blatant cheating
posted on 13/12/20
Still feel that Adama should have got a penalty when Grealish fouled him.
posted on 13/12/20
I don't understand how they think they can get away with such corruption when there are so many witnesses to their cheating.
posted on 13/12/20
comment by Wulfrunnut (U17298)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted about an hour ago
I find it bizarre that crowds are limited to 2,000 then most, and all in some grounds, are being sat in the same stand
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That occurred to me Spangles. Surely if you can have 2,000 fans all in one stand, why not have 8,000 fans spread around 4 stands. Covid-wise it must be the same effect. Any risk must happen in the stand itself, and in the concourse below (toilets, etc), not in the streets before and after the game. Or if you want to be ultra-cautious have 2,000 fans across the 4 stands.
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Thing is it's not just inside the ground it's in the streets outside too where even if it's outside it's pushing it a bit too have 8000 people milling around. Opening other stands means more staff and stewards too so 8000 can quickly become 8500 or more. That said I think 4000 would be a sensible number for most premier league grounds.
I don't really have a problem with the rules as they stand at the moment, the smaller clubs desperately need the revenue and at premier league level having 2000 opposition fans in shouldn't affect your performance unduly.
posted on 13/12/20
Been to Molineux a few times in the early rounds of the league cup when half the ground is closed and well less than 10,000 inside. Not much atmosphere generated really. 2,000 in a stadium built for 10,000 would create a much better atmosphere than 2,000 in a stadium built for over 30,000
Always wondered how weird it must have been to go to Hampden when the capacity was 120,000 to watch a Queens Park home game. Or to go to the old Wembley when they held greyhound meetings with crowds of a few hundred
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