comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
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Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
Celtic v United moved to 3pm on the 30th, makes sense, as much recovery time as possible before the Of game.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Of course things could change. Very easily.
But for me losing a scrappy last minute goal in one game against St Mirren is far from proof that we are going to bottle the league.
I have always had more success approaching anything with a positive attitude in life. Maybe in some peoples eyes that is naive.
After 28 games or so we have lost one. And none in the league.
To look at that record and label that team serial bottlers at this stage is jumping the gun to say the least IMO.
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
Celtic v United moved to 3pm on the 30th, makes sense, as much recovery time as possible before the Of game.
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Copying bassers 😂
To look at that record and label that team serial bottlers at this stage is jumping the gun to say the least IMO.
Rangers start to the season is no different than any other domestically.
Pumped out the Betfred cup and a good start in the league.
The bottlers tag is rightfully called into the argument when you’re on a streak of knocked out of 7 trophies in a row.
Not won a major trophy for 10 years now.
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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Rangers didn't bottle it in the cup final. On any other day that's a straightforward win for Rangers. You lost it for two reasons-
1 Fraser Forster
2 Alfredo Morelos
going to miss the game on the 30th now
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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I’ll always back the team and players, always have. Been calling out daft fans that abused Tav and Goldson for years. Always backed Gerrard too.
But if you think fans shouldn’t voice when they’re unhappy, and that it’s wrong to be unhappy after last night, then no idea how you cope as a Rangers fan.
Also on Zungu just my opinion, could see a player in Barisic when he started poorly, but I don’t see one in Zungu. He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good. And positionally didn’t think he was in the right place. Maybe he needs time to settle, but I’d rather he was bottom of the Cm choices. And would rather see Hagi at Cm over him too.
He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good.
that's a fancy word
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 6 minutes ago
He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good.
that's a fancy word
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Not a fan of those potatoes. Too creamy for me.
Anyone watched Queen of the South?
Baw deep into season 3, quality viewing.
Zungu looks brutal. Hopefully we don't take up that option. Even better, cancel his loan deal next month
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posted 2 minutes ago
Zungu looks brutal. Hopefully we don't take up that option. Even better, cancel his loan deal next month
the new Coolbilly?
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posted 13 minutes ago
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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I’ll always back the team and players, always have. Been calling out daft fans that abused Tav and Goldson for years. Always backed Gerrard too.
But if you think fans shouldn’t voice when they’re unhappy, and that it’s wrong to be unhappy after last night, then no idea how you cope as a Rangers fan.
Also on Zungu just my opinion, could see a player in Barisic when he started poorly, but I don’t see one in Zungu. He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good. And positionally didn’t think he was in the right place. Maybe he needs time to settle, but I’d rather he was bottom of the Cm choices. And would rather see Hagi at Cm over him too.
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His first minute in a Rangers strip went viral after he started pinging passes about. To say no he shouldn't start a game is mental. He signed two months ago and his first two weeks were spent in quarantine.
I'm not happy to have lost last night at all. I was very disappointed but we need perspective here.
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posted 3 minutes ago
Zungu looks brutal. Hopefully we don't take up that option. Even better, cancel his loan deal next month
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Let him get his feet in the door first. How long did it take Barisic to settle? Now he's a star player. Zungu has been available for selection for just a few weeks.
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comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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Rangers didn't bottle it in the cup final. On any other day that's a straightforward win for Rangers. You lost it for two reasons-
1 Fraser Forster
2 Alfredo Morelos
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you just keep on keepin on
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comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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I’ll always back the team and players, always have. Been calling out daft fans that abused Tav and Goldson for years. Always backed Gerrard too.
But if you think fans shouldn’t voice when they’re unhappy, and that it’s wrong to be unhappy after last night, then no idea how you cope as a Rangers fan.
Also on Zungu just my opinion, could see a player in Barisic when he started poorly, but I don’t see one in Zungu. He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good. And positionally didn’t think he was in the right place. Maybe he needs time to settle, but I’d rather he was bottom of the Cm choices. And would rather see Hagi at Cm over him too.
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I am not really sure he was saying that Rangers fans shouldnt speak out when they are unhappy.
I think it is more to question how quickly some fans become unhappy. And how that could have a negative effect on the team if it were coming from inside the ground right now.
Take Bassey for example - he is a young player who has done well since he has come in. He had a bit of a mare last night and he was devastated by it and Tavs has had to put his arm round him to try and pick him up.
Thats what a kid like that needs in that situation. Not being labelled a bottler because he bumped into the back of someone in the box and gave away a penalty.
Its nearly christmas and we have just lost our first game to a scrappy goal in the dying seconds of a match.
Yes it was an important game that we should have won but is it enough to start labelling the team bottlers?
Not for me at this stage.
aye see tbh I'm surprised by the reaction of a lot of Rangers fans
27 games until your first defeat, you've got to look at it as a blip and not a sign of bottling it
unfortunately you can't come back from a blip in the cup but I wouldn't be going overboard
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comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bluenose (U6456)
posted 3 minutes ago
Zungu looks brutal. Hopefully we don't take up that option. Even better, cancel his loan deal next month
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Let him get his feet in the door first. How long did it take Barisic to settle? Now he's a star player. Zungu has been available for selection for just a few weeks.
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Zungu looks 'brutal'??
That is harsh to say the least IMO.
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 3 minutes ago
aye see tbh I'm surprised by the reaction of a lot of Rangers fans
27 games until your first defeat, you've got to look at it as a blip and not a sign of bottling it
unfortunately you can't come back from a blip in the cup but I wouldn't be going overboard
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Exactly
Zungu didn't play well - never play him again. Seriously.
If I was given the choice of a defeat in the league or the LC it's a total no brainer.
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comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
posted on 17/12/20
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
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Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
posted on 17/12/20
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
posted on 17/12/20
Celtic v United moved to 3pm on the 30th, makes sense, as much recovery time as possible before the Of game.
posted on 17/12/20
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
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Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Of course things could change. Very easily.
But for me losing a scrappy last minute goal in one game against St Mirren is far from proof that we are going to bottle the league.
I have always had more success approaching anything with a positive attitude in life. Maybe in some peoples eyes that is naive.
After 28 games or so we have lost one. And none in the league.
To look at that record and label that team serial bottlers at this stage is jumping the gun to say the least IMO.
posted on 17/12/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
Celtic v United moved to 3pm on the 30th, makes sense, as much recovery time as possible before the Of game.
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Copying bassers 😂
posted on 17/12/20
To look at that record and label that team serial bottlers at this stage is jumping the gun to say the least IMO.
Rangers start to the season is no different than any other domestically.
Pumped out the Betfred cup and a good start in the league.
The bottlers tag is rightfully called into the argument when you’re on a streak of knocked out of 7 trophies in a row.
Not won a major trophy for 10 years now.
posted on 17/12/20
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
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Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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Rangers didn't bottle it in the cup final. On any other day that's a straightforward win for Rangers. You lost it for two reasons-
1 Fraser Forster
2 Alfredo Morelos
posted on 17/12/20
going to miss the game on the 30th now
posted on 17/12/20
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
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I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
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Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
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You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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I’ll always back the team and players, always have. Been calling out daft fans that abused Tav and Goldson for years. Always backed Gerrard too.
But if you think fans shouldn’t voice when they’re unhappy, and that it’s wrong to be unhappy after last night, then no idea how you cope as a Rangers fan.
Also on Zungu just my opinion, could see a player in Barisic when he started poorly, but I don’t see one in Zungu. He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good. And positionally didn’t think he was in the right place. Maybe he needs time to settle, but I’d rather he was bottom of the Cm choices. And would rather see Hagi at Cm over him too.
posted on 17/12/20
He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good.
that's a fancy word
posted on 17/12/20
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 6 minutes ago
He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good.
that's a fancy word
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Not a fan of those potatoes. Too creamy for me.
posted on 17/12/20
Anyone watched Queen of the South?
Baw deep into season 3, quality viewing.
posted on 17/12/20
posted on 17/12/20
posted on 17/12/20
Zungu looks brutal. Hopefully we don't take up that option. Even better, cancel his loan deal next month
posted on 17/12/20
comment by Bluenose (U6456)
posted 2 minutes ago
Zungu looks brutal. Hopefully we don't take up that option. Even better, cancel his loan deal next month
the new Coolbilly?
posted on 17/12/20
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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I’ll always back the team and players, always have. Been calling out daft fans that abused Tav and Goldson for years. Always backed Gerrard too.
But if you think fans shouldn’t voice when they’re unhappy, and that it’s wrong to be unhappy after last night, then no idea how you cope as a Rangers fan.
Also on Zungu just my opinion, could see a player in Barisic when he started poorly, but I don’t see one in Zungu. He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good. And positionally didn’t think he was in the right place. Maybe he needs time to settle, but I’d rather he was bottom of the Cm choices. And would rather see Hagi at Cm over him too.
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His first minute in a Rangers strip went viral after he started pinging passes about. To say no he shouldn't start a game is mental. He signed two months ago and his first two weeks were spent in quarantine.
I'm not happy to have lost last night at all. I was very disappointed but we need perspective here.
posted on 17/12/20
comment by Bluenose (U6456)
posted 3 minutes ago
Zungu looks brutal. Hopefully we don't take up that option. Even better, cancel his loan deal next month
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Let him get his feet in the door first. How long did it take Barisic to settle? Now he's a star player. Zungu has been available for selection for just a few weeks.
posted on 17/12/20
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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Rangers didn't bottle it in the cup final. On any other day that's a straightforward win for Rangers. You lost it for two reasons-
1 Fraser Forster
2 Alfredo Morelos
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you just keep on keepin on
posted on 17/12/20
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 11 seconds ago
Aye I get that, squad and performances are obviously better.
But that won’t matter if we end the season without any trophies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I certainly wont be giving up on the league or scottish cup because St Mirren pulled an injury time winner out the bag.
I think there has been enough on display this season to warrant a sense of perspective and a wee bit of optimism at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who is giving up?
Optimism is all well and good, but when the team bottle it time and time again, then you should be asking questions and not just brushing it off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe I just dont take the view that every time Rangers lose or drop points they 'bottle it'.
St Mirren were well organised last night and got the breaks at the right time.
The pen in the first half was a nothing challenge and a bit of naivety from Bassey.
I think the squad is better this season and individual players have improved this season. And I think we will win more points than we did last season.
Given that Celtic have dropped way more points than us relative to this point last season it gives us a great chance of winning the title.
Last night doesn't change that for me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might not think we bottle but clear as day we struggle in cups when it matters. Bossed Celtic in the cup lose, lost in the cup to Hearts, then lost to St Mirren last night. 3 games we should be winning, call it whatever you want it’s the same story.
I read we’re only 3 points better off than last year. Two losses like last night in the league and Celtic are on us.
There’s going to be a lot of games over the next few weeks. Could easily change.
Very naive to think otherwise.
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Bossing Celtic in the cup final doesn’t equate to bottling it. Not one bit. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
It’s at times like this I’m glad there’s no fans allowed in the games if this is the reaction to one loss in December, considering how we’ve played and who we’ve played in all competitions.
Also in the OP to write off Zungu when he’s hardly had time to settle is bonkers.
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I’ll always back the team and players, always have. Been calling out daft fans that abused Tav and Goldson for years. Always backed Gerrard too.
But if you think fans shouldn’t voice when they’re unhappy, and that it’s wrong to be unhappy after last night, then no idea how you cope as a Rangers fan.
Also on Zungu just my opinion, could see a player in Barisic when he started poorly, but I don’t see one in Zungu. He tries playing same diaphanous Goldson does, but they were no good. And positionally didn’t think he was in the right place. Maybe he needs time to settle, but I’d rather he was bottom of the Cm choices. And would rather see Hagi at Cm over him too.
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I am not really sure he was saying that Rangers fans shouldnt speak out when they are unhappy.
I think it is more to question how quickly some fans become unhappy. And how that could have a negative effect on the team if it were coming from inside the ground right now.
Take Bassey for example - he is a young player who has done well since he has come in. He had a bit of a mare last night and he was devastated by it and Tavs has had to put his arm round him to try and pick him up.
Thats what a kid like that needs in that situation. Not being labelled a bottler because he bumped into the back of someone in the box and gave away a penalty.
Its nearly christmas and we have just lost our first game to a scrappy goal in the dying seconds of a match.
Yes it was an important game that we should have won but is it enough to start labelling the team bottlers?
Not for me at this stage.
posted on 17/12/20
aye see tbh I'm surprised by the reaction of a lot of Rangers fans
27 games until your first defeat, you've got to look at it as a blip and not a sign of bottling it
unfortunately you can't come back from a blip in the cup but I wouldn't be going overboard
posted on 17/12/20
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posted on 17/12/20
comment by rats juice aw ra timz bein neel lenin (U6393)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bluenose (U6456)
posted 3 minutes ago
Zungu looks brutal. Hopefully we don't take up that option. Even better, cancel his loan deal next month
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Let him get his feet in the door first. How long did it take Barisic to settle? Now he's a star player. Zungu has been available for selection for just a few weeks.
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Zungu looks 'brutal'??
That is harsh to say the least IMO.
posted on 17/12/20
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 3 minutes ago
aye see tbh I'm surprised by the reaction of a lot of Rangers fans
27 games until your first defeat, you've got to look at it as a blip and not a sign of bottling it
unfortunately you can't come back from a blip in the cup but I wouldn't be going overboard
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Exactly
Zungu didn't play well - never play him again. Seriously.
If I was given the choice of a defeat in the league or the LC it's a total no brainer.
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