Do you feel it impacted the result at Tottenham yesterday?
Certainly only Spurs though, other teams seem to be coping ok
We haven't had any fans in the ground since March. It's not just Tier 4
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
Certainly only Spurs though, other teams seem to be coping ok
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Palace got hammered, United won for the first time in many a game and won well, and the same Palace who played so well against us with their fans behind them couldn't even put together a pass when their fans were missing?
comment by For Fox Sake (U4263)
posted 51 seconds ago
We haven't had any fans in the ground since March. It's not just Tier 4
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Leicester lost 4 games at home and only 1 away, therefore no fans seem to a good indicator?
We still won when we had no fans. Some teams just lack the mentality
Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 56 seconds ago
Void the season is next
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It should be totally or marked with an asterisk.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
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Yes, the Arsenal game where they benefitted from the crowd and players gave more
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
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Yes, the Arsenal game where they benefitted from the crowd and players gave more
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Where is your article saying you had an advantage in that game and if you won the league you should have am asterisk against your team?
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 56 seconds ago
Void the season is next
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It should be totally or marked with an asterisk
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Think there’s more staff than fans in these grounds lane excuse for a downward spiral in form a spurs fan
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
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Yes Arsenal
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comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Ulterior motives
It definitely should be a conversation. We will get those thinking it's a non event but I just can't get how slme teams get to have fans at home and others don't. And then, we went to Palace with 2k hardcore fans cheering them on and then the following week Liverpool go to Palace and play in an empty stadium. I can't see how anyone can't at least think a conversation should be had about this.
We had 2k fans in the NLD. If the reverse fixture has no fans then is say that's an unfair advantage.
it is a clear advantage, it's impossible to deny.
but presumably the intention/hope was that things would get better, and any differences between teams would be temporary only...so it was better to let a few fans in early, with the rest following soon after. if that's not going to be the case, and 80% of the season is going to be played with these differences, it's pretty dubious.
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
Our home record remains unchanged this season, 100% without fans, 100% with fans.
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I'd argue that Liverpool aren't really at the heart of this debate. Liverpool are too good for it to maybe matter. But when teams are alot closer on quality then the little difference of fans could be a bigger difference. It should at least be spoke about. How is it possiblly fair that some teams get to play infront of fans. Players have clearly stated it makes a difference.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 38 seconds ago
it is a clear advantage, it's impossible to deny.
but presumably the intention/hope was that things would get better, and any differences between teams would be temporary only...so it was better to let a few fans in early, with the rest following soon after. if that's not going to be the case, and 80% of the season is going to be played with these differences, it's pretty dubious.
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Fair comment.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 52 seconds ago
It definitely should be a conversation. We will get those thinking it's a non event but I just can't get how slme teams get to have fans at home and others don't. And then, we went to Palace with 2k hardcore fans cheering them on and then the following week Liverpool go to Palace and play in an empty stadium. I can't see how anyone can't at least think a conversation should be had about this.
We had 2k fans in the NLD. If the reverse fixture has no fans then is say that's an unfair advantage.
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I think it's unfair that some teams play in front of more fans than others because of stadium sizes.
To make things equal then should only allow stadiums to hold as many fans as the smallest stadium in the prem.
So say Fulhams capacity is 20,000 then every club should only be allowed to have 20,000 fans in the stadium.What can be fairer than that?
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 52 seconds ago
It definitely should be a conversation. We will get those thinking it's a non event but I just can't get how slme teams get to have fans at home and others don't. And then, we went to Palace with 2k hardcore fans cheering them on and then the following week Liverpool go to Palace and play in an empty stadium. I can't see how anyone can't at least think a conversation should be had about this.
We had 2k fans in the NLD. If the reverse fixture has no fans then is say that's an unfair advantage.
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I think it's unfair that some teams play in front of more fans than others because of stadium sizes.
To make things equal then should only allow stadiums to hold as many fans as the smallest stadium in the prem.
So say Fulhams capacity is 20,000 then every club should only be allowed to have 20,000 fans in the stadium.What can be fairer than that?
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Clearly not willing to debate properly. I assume your team is allowed fans in?
Oh yes, now we see why you lean to one side rather than willing to debate properly.
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 52 seconds ago
It definitely should be a conversation. We will get those thinking it's a non event but I just can't get how slme teams get to have fans at home and others don't. And then, we went to Palace with 2k hardcore fans cheering them on and then the following week Liverpool go to Palace and play in an empty stadium. I can't see how anyone can't at least think a conversation should be had about this.
We had 2k fans in the NLD. If the reverse fixture has no fans then is say that's an unfair advantage.
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I think it's unfair that some teams play in front of more fans than others because of stadium sizes.
To make things equal then should only allow stadiums to hold as many fans as the smallest stadium in the prem.
So say Fulhams capacity is 20,000 then every club should only be allowed to have 20,000 fans in the stadium.What can be fairer than that?
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Clearly not willing to debate properly. I assume your team is allowed fans in?
Oh yes, now we see why you lean to one side rather than willing to debate properly.
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I am debating this,do you disagree that the larger crowds can influence a result by intimidating the ref and opposition players.
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posted on 21/12/20
Do you feel it impacted the result at Tottenham yesterday?
posted on 21/12/20
Certainly only Spurs though, other teams seem to be coping ok
posted on 21/12/20
We haven't had any fans in the ground since March. It's not just Tier 4
posted on 21/12/20
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
Certainly only Spurs though, other teams seem to be coping ok
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Palace got hammered, United won for the first time in many a game and won well, and the same Palace who played so well against us with their fans behind them couldn't even put together a pass when their fans were missing?
posted on 21/12/20
comment by For Fox Sake (U4263)
posted 51 seconds ago
We haven't had any fans in the ground since March. It's not just Tier 4
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Leicester lost 4 games at home and only 1 away, therefore no fans seem to a good indicator?
posted on 21/12/20
We still won when we had no fans. Some teams just lack the mentality
posted on 21/12/20
Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
posted on 21/12/20
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
posted on 21/12/20
Void the season is next
posted on 21/12/20
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
posted on 21/12/20
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
posted on 21/12/20
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 56 seconds ago
Void the season is next
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It should be totally or marked with an asterisk.
posted on 21/12/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
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Yes, the Arsenal game where they benefitted from the crowd and players gave more
posted on 21/12/20
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
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Yes, the Arsenal game where they benefitted from the crowd and players gave more
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Where is your article saying you had an advantage in that game and if you won the league you should have am asterisk against your team?
posted on 21/12/20
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 56 seconds ago
Void the season is next
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It should be totally or marked with an asterisk
——————
Think there’s more staff than fans in these grounds lane excuse for a downward spiral in form a spurs fan
posted on 21/12/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Have Spurs played in front of their own fans this season?
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Yes Arsenal
posted on 21/12/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 21/12/20
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
I think its a pretty Lame excuse but expecting more in the hours and days to come
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what's a lame excuse?
It's a subject for discussion and in a football forum, so if you don't want to discuss you don't have to
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Ulterior motives
posted on 21/12/20
It definitely should be a conversation. We will get those thinking it's a non event but I just can't get how slme teams get to have fans at home and others don't. And then, we went to Palace with 2k hardcore fans cheering them on and then the following week Liverpool go to Palace and play in an empty stadium. I can't see how anyone can't at least think a conversation should be had about this.
We had 2k fans in the NLD. If the reverse fixture has no fans then is say that's an unfair advantage.
posted on 21/12/20
it is a clear advantage, it's impossible to deny.
but presumably the intention/hope was that things would get better, and any differences between teams would be temporary only...so it was better to let a few fans in early, with the rest following soon after. if that's not going to be the case, and 80% of the season is going to be played with these differences, it's pretty dubious.
posted on 21/12/20
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
Our home record remains unchanged this season, 100% without fans, 100% with fans.
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I'd argue that Liverpool aren't really at the heart of this debate. Liverpool are too good for it to maybe matter. But when teams are alot closer on quality then the little difference of fans could be a bigger difference. It should at least be spoke about. How is it possiblly fair that some teams get to play infront of fans. Players have clearly stated it makes a difference.
posted on 21/12/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 38 seconds ago
it is a clear advantage, it's impossible to deny.
but presumably the intention/hope was that things would get better, and any differences between teams would be temporary only...so it was better to let a few fans in early, with the rest following soon after. if that's not going to be the case, and 80% of the season is going to be played with these differences, it's pretty dubious.
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Fair comment.
posted on 21/12/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 52 seconds ago
It definitely should be a conversation. We will get those thinking it's a non event but I just can't get how slme teams get to have fans at home and others don't. And then, we went to Palace with 2k hardcore fans cheering them on and then the following week Liverpool go to Palace and play in an empty stadium. I can't see how anyone can't at least think a conversation should be had about this.
We had 2k fans in the NLD. If the reverse fixture has no fans then is say that's an unfair advantage.
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I think it's unfair that some teams play in front of more fans than others because of stadium sizes.
To make things equal then should only allow stadiums to hold as many fans as the smallest stadium in the prem.
So say Fulhams capacity is 20,000 then every club should only be allowed to have 20,000 fans in the stadium.What can be fairer than that?
posted on 21/12/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 52 seconds ago
It definitely should be a conversation. We will get those thinking it's a non event but I just can't get how slme teams get to have fans at home and others don't. And then, we went to Palace with 2k hardcore fans cheering them on and then the following week Liverpool go to Palace and play in an empty stadium. I can't see how anyone can't at least think a conversation should be had about this.
We had 2k fans in the NLD. If the reverse fixture has no fans then is say that's an unfair advantage.
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I think it's unfair that some teams play in front of more fans than others because of stadium sizes.
To make things equal then should only allow stadiums to hold as many fans as the smallest stadium in the prem.
So say Fulhams capacity is 20,000 then every club should only be allowed to have 20,000 fans in the stadium.What can be fairer than that?
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Clearly not willing to debate properly. I assume your team is allowed fans in?
Oh yes, now we see why you lean to one side rather than willing to debate properly.
posted on 21/12/20
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 52 seconds ago
It definitely should be a conversation. We will get those thinking it's a non event but I just can't get how slme teams get to have fans at home and others don't. And then, we went to Palace with 2k hardcore fans cheering them on and then the following week Liverpool go to Palace and play in an empty stadium. I can't see how anyone can't at least think a conversation should be had about this.
We had 2k fans in the NLD. If the reverse fixture has no fans then is say that's an unfair advantage.
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I think it's unfair that some teams play in front of more fans than others because of stadium sizes.
To make things equal then should only allow stadiums to hold as many fans as the smallest stadium in the prem.
So say Fulhams capacity is 20,000 then every club should only be allowed to have 20,000 fans in the stadium.What can be fairer than that?
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Clearly not willing to debate properly. I assume your team is allowed fans in?
Oh yes, now we see why you lean to one side rather than willing to debate properly.
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I am debating this,do you disagree that the larger crowds can influence a result by intimidating the ref and opposition players.
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