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'Clap for Heroes' - what a waste of time

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posted on 6/1/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
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It's a pointless gesture.
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So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
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I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm with Winston. It felt spontaneous the first couple of times, now it's a bit Clinton Cards. There'll be clap shaming next if you don't join in.

I've read a few posts on social media from actual NHS employees who say enough of the clapping, it's all very nice, but can we have something that'll actually improve our situation.
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Funny story.

My wife's cousin works as a consultant.

Her husband was looking after the baby and she was at work.

Their neighbour had a pop, asking them why they weren't out clapping, earlier in the year.

You can imagine the response, although I think he was more polite than I would have been.

It's utterly pathetic. As if not clapping on your doorstep means you don't care.
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I'd have punched him in the face and told him to mind his own business. (The neighbour)

On the subject while a nice gesture it's also futile and as alluded to earlier, following the rules to take pressure of these people's jobs is a far better thing to do

posted on 6/1/21

I mean yeah it is pretty pointless in the grand scheme of things, but I suppose it's just a nice gesture. I can understand it's frustrating with those with young one's however.

In all fairness, I haven't heard anybody around my ends doing it for a long while.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 2 minutes ago
If no real dog in the fight, so if people choose to clap it doesn't bother me, if I was putting kids to bed then who knows what I would think.

I do however think that passive participation/protest is starting to become toxic. Pressing the like button on a Facebook post to "stop animal testing", "e petitions" etc just give people an outlet that assuages their grievance in some way, whilst allowing the status quo to continue without much disruption. I don't know what I'd prefer but "1 like = 1 prayer" stuff makes me want to vomit my spleen.
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Spot on.

People feel like they've done something, when actually they've achieved nothing.

Like the 'be kind' posts following a high profile suicide.
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This kinda reminds me of when the NME printed a headline saying we were 'all responsible for Amy Winehouse's death'.

Erm... no. You were the ones, along with Graham Norton etc that publicly mocked someone who's life was quite clearly spiralling out of control. And it was you that chose to profit from, rather than help do anything about it.

I certainly don't remember receiving my cut of the sales from Heat magazine. I'm guessing none of you do either.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 4 seconds ago
I remember finding it a pretty empty gesture at the time and almost an endorsement of our useless government. I felt like I don't want to clap, I want everyone to get on their doorsteps and boo the government for helping put the NHS staff is such a horrible position.
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There are not enough leaders or mavericks in society to boo / go against the grain. We are a conforming nation that loves a bandwagon / virtue signalling.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
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It's a pointless gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.
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I'm just intrigued about the relationship between Marxist theory and BLM.

posted on 6/1/21

It is just basic people wanting attention. The being seen to be doing something (with minimal effort) without actually achieving anything is just part of life now. It's all the celebs do on social media, for attention and to feel good about themselves. Also basic people love a fad as they don't want to feel left out, no matter if the fad is stupid and makes no sense at all.

posted on 6/1/21

As for the return of 'Clap for Heroes', I'm sure deep down most NHS workers would prefer an introduction of 'Maim a nobber'.

That's something I could totally get onboard with tbh.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a pointless gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm just intrigued about the relationship between Marxist theory and BLM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not referring to the Marxist cause personally, but more the principle of kneeling being a "pointless" gesture.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a pointless gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm just intrigued about the relationship between Marxist theory and BLM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not referring to the Marxist cause personally, but more the principle of kneeling being a "pointless" gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your explanation's more baffling than your original comment.

posted on 6/1/21

The clap is just another facking pointless way for idiots to feel good about themselves for thinking they are actually helping.

posted on 6/1/21

I only clap/bang pots and pans to scare dogs.

posted on 6/1/21

My house backs onto houses in the next street, and opposite those houses is a care home.

An old guy lives in the house directly to back of mine.

During the first lockdown, he would go out every Thursday and start singing. The care workers and residents in the care home would come out and join in. I could cut through a little alleyway into the next street. It was simply joyous to see. A little community all interacting, led by this man. People would come out their homes and join in. Some singing, some clapping, some banging pots and pans.

The residents loved it. The care workers loved it and appreciated it. It was a good thing that came out of the clapping.

It’s in things like that - a scenario that brought people together, reminded people that they are not alone. Reminded people that we are all going through this. That’s where the value lies for me in this gesture of clapping. And I think that’s why people did it. It showed that people care. And if anything, it may help remind people that we are not each other’s enemies in all of this.

I think it’s a nice gesture. It shows support. But that only really means anything if everyone ascribes to this attitude across the board. Until it is over.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a pointless gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm just intrigued about the relationship between Marxist theory and BLM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not referring to the Marxist cause personally, but more the principle of kneeling being a "pointless" gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your explanation's more baffling than your original comment.
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Ok if you say so.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a pointless gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm just intrigued about the relationship between Marxist theory and BLM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not referring to the Marxist cause personally, but more the principle of kneeling being a "pointless" gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your explanation's more baffling than your original comment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a Prem game kicked off recently, could have been Chelsea actually, where two players forgot about the kneeling & kicked off...quickly realising their error they took the knee

I could be wrong, but i'm sure one of them was black, - could have been both

Didn't seem to mean much to them/him...you'd think it'd be uppermost of thier minds no...

posted on 6/1/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a pointless gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm just intrigued about the relationship between Marxist theory and BLM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not referring to the Marxist cause personally, but more the principle of kneeling being a "pointless" gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your explanation's more baffling than your original comment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a Prem game kicked off recently, could have been Chelsea actually, where two players forgot about the kneeling & kicked off...quickly realising their error they took the knee

I could be wrong, but i'm sure one of them was black, - could have been both

Didn't seem to mean much to them/him...you'd think it'd be uppermost of thier minds no...

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Yeah, it was the Marxist bit that baffled me.

posted on 6/1/21

if a few people clapping out on the street is upsetting you this much you really need tyo sort your fecking life out before doing anything else.

as for people clapping while you put your kids to bed.. again.. if a few people clapping is keeping your kids awake... stop being a tight cant and get some decent double glazing

posted on 6/1/21

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a pointless gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm just intrigued about the relationship between Marxist theory and BLM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not referring to the Marxist cause personally, but more the principle of kneeling being a "pointless" gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your explanation's more baffling than your original comment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a Prem game kicked off recently, could have been Chelsea actually, where two players forgot about the kneeling & kicked off...quickly realising their error they took the knee

I could be wrong, but i'm sure one of them was black, - could have been both

Didn't seem to mean much to them/him...you'd think it'd be uppermost of thier minds no...

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Yeah, it was the Marxist bit that baffled me.
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Hence why I said I wasn't referring to that personally, but that baffled you as well because I was referring to the principle of it.

posted on 6/1/21

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 8 seconds ago
It still is a nice gesture, it just seems like more of a personal issue in your case rather than an issue with clapping itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's a pointless gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is kneeling before games to support some marxist cause - but we're still doing that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I was purposely preventing opening this can of worms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm just intrigued about the relationship between Marxist theory and BLM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not referring to the Marxist cause personally, but more the principle of kneeling being a "pointless" gesture.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your explanation's more baffling than your original comment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a Prem game kicked off recently, could have been Chelsea actually, where two players forgot about the kneeling & kicked off...quickly realising their error they took the knee

I could be wrong, but i'm sure one of them was black, - could have been both

Didn't seem to mean much to them/him...you'd think it'd be uppermost of thier minds no...

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Yeah, it was the Marxist bit that baffled me.
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Hence why I said I wasn't referring to that personally, but that baffled you as well because I was referring to the principle of it.
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OK. I'm sure you know what you meant

posted on 6/1/21

Used to show it on the news all the time when they first started doing it
Fire engines, ambulances and police cars all line up with their blue lights flashing and them all stood in their various uniforms clapping each other

Sorry, shouldn’t you lot be working or is this what I pay my obscene council tax on now?

posted on 6/1/21

There's been copy about on the subject...I'm no expert, & possibly shouldn't have referred to it...but

https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2020/07/22/politifact-is-black-lives-matter-a-marxist-movement/

Make your own mind up though....it's still a pointless gesture

posted on 6/1/21

Embarrassing.

posted on 6/1/21

My 6 year old wanted to know why the players kneeled down before a match. We talked about how it was a stance against racism. About how people can be treated differently because of the color of their skin, how they look, how they talk, whether they have a disability etc.

We’ve been planning on having these discussions, been laying the ground work with our chats about his “everyone’s different” and we should appreciate those differences.

Seeing the players do this before matches provided a nice opportunity to move the coversation along organically and give him some examples outside of his own social bubble.

It was great to see him observe the players kneeling and ask about it. I could see this being similar for kids wanting to know why everyone is clapping for heroes

posted on 6/1/21

comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
if a few people clapping out on the street is upsetting you this much you really need tyo sort your fecking life out before doing anything else.

as for people clapping while you put your kids to bed.. again.. if a few people clapping is keeping your kids awake... stop being a tight cant and get some decent double glazing
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People should stand on their doorsteps and do naaazi salutes. And if anyone is upset about people simply raising their arm on front of them then they need to sort their life out.

Try looking at the meaning or reasoning behind something rather than the action itself

posted on 6/1/21

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 24 seconds ago
There's been copy about on the subject...I'm no expert, & possibly shouldn't have referred to it...but

https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2020/07/22/politifact-is-black-lives-matter-a-marxist-movement/

Make your own mind up though....it's still a pointless gesture
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You should read that link... what it isn't saying is that BLM is a Marxist movement.

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