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Odegaard output this season has been incredible for a MF player
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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Odegaard output this season has been incredible for a MF player
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Wasn't convinced after his loan performance but what a signing he has been
Odegaard still has minutes in his games where he needs to get the game back under control.
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Just because you're unable to see how Holding being in the team contributed to our recent collapse doesn't mean it wasn't the case.
There's a reason the collapse didn't happen with Saliba in the team, this seems obvious to everyone except for you it seems
We were letting in goals with Saliba in the team too, it's just shown more with Holding there.
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Just because you're unable to see how Holding being in the team contributed to our recent collapse doesn't mean it wasn't the case.
There's a reason the collapse didn't happen with Saliba in the team, this seems obvious to everyone except for you it seems
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just you not able to analyse games properly doesnt really help. Keep going.
I miss Saliba as well and I know that Holding shouldnt start games for us especially not these games. To make him the culprit when Zinny and Partey made mistake after mistake in these games is plain and simple stupid.
The collapse we are suffering was because especially our midfielder werent at the races in the right moment. And that were our experience players. To win against a team like City you need to have 11 players at the right level.
hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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Whats he saying?
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hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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Whats he saying?
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It was more how he said how we bottled the league, Vieira and Cesc were not having it, he just sounded thick
Tbf we did kinda bottle it. We just overachieved at the same time.
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Just because you're unable to see how Holding being in the team contributed to our recent collapse doesn't mean it wasn't the case.
There's a reason the collapse didn't happen with Saliba in the team, this seems obvious to everyone except for you it seems
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just you not able to analyse games properly doesnt really help. Keep going.
I miss Saliba as well and I know that Holding shouldnt start games for us especially not these games. To make him the culprit when Zinny and Partey made mistake after mistake in these games is plain and simple stupid.
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The fact that you can see faults in other players but can see none in Holding and also want to scape Zinny even though you've been preaching no one should be scapegoated is not only stupid but also hypocritical...
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Just because you're unable to see how Holding being in the team contributed to our recent collapse doesn't mean it wasn't the case.
There's a reason the collapse didn't happen with Saliba in the team, this seems obvious to everyone except for you it seems
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just you not able to analyse games properly doesnt really help. Keep going.
I miss Saliba as well and I know that Holding shouldnt start games for us especially not these games. To make him the culprit when Zinny and Partey made mistake after mistake in these games is plain and simple stupid.
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The fact that you can see faults in other players but can see none in Holding and also want to scape Zinny even though you've been preaching no one should be scapegoated is not only stupid but also hypocritical...
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Again. I havent said Holding been flawless. But we are dropping points because of our experienced players made direct mistakes that leads to goals.
Because we lost control in midfield the pressure on our defense raised and yes Holding was the first who felt it.
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Tbf we did kinda bottle it. We just overachieved at the same time.
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Yes, that's the point Vieira and Cesc were saying, it was just how JFH was trying to get his point across, he just sounds thick, I actually agree with him on a few things, we messed up with Southampton and West ham.
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hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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Whats he saying?
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It was more how he said how we bottled the league, Vieira and Cesc were not having it, he just sounded thick
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The guy whose highest achievement as a player was cup runner up has no place talking about anyone bottling
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Floyd_Hasselbaink
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posted 7 minutes ago
just you not able to analyse games properly doesnt really help. Keep going.
I miss Saliba as well and I know that Holding shouldnt start games for us especially not these games. To make him the culprit when Zinny and Partey made mistake after mistake in these games is plain and simple stupid.
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The fact that you can see faults in other players but can see none in Holding and also want to scape Zinny even though you've been preaching no one should be scapegoated is not only stupid but also hypocritical...
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Again. I havent said Holding been flawless. But we are dropping points because of our experienced players made direct mistakes that leads to goals.
Because we lost control in midfield the pressure on our defense raised and yes Holding was the first who felt it.
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Well all I'm saying is you can't be saying no one should scapegoat Holding then turn around and try to scapegoat Zinny yourself, be consistent.
I can see Zinny's faults but he's contributed far more to Arsenal's success this season than Holding has in years and its funny how we hit a wall once Saliba was injured and Holding came into the team, yet you can't see the obvious difference that led to that change in fortunes... and can point to no faults in Holding but quick to zone in on flaws in Zinny and Partey, very strange!
Issue is Holding isn't actively making mistakes, he's actually playing at a high level within his capabilities but unfortunately he just doesn't have the ability to play at the level we want to. Plus we know he'll likely be gone in the summer.
Zinchenko can play to that level but has just been poor for an important string of games now. He's not been helping with control and has been making defensive errors, so I'd say he should be under more scrutiny.
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comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
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hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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Whats he saying?
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It was more how he said how we bottled the league, Vieira and Cesc were not having it, he just sounded thick
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The guy whose highest achievement as a player was cup runner up has no place talking about anyone bottling
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Floyd_Hasselbaink
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Is that all?
Zinny played the whole long season. Holding not. And if Saliba wasnt injured he obviously wouldnt have played at all.
Why is that strange to point out that Zinny's and Partey's mistake in recent games lead to goals we conceded and cost us points?
It's because you are just biased and it's easier to find a scapegoat in Holding.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 18 minutes ago
Zinny played the whole long season. Holding not. And if Saliba wasnt injured he obviously wouldnt have played at all.
Why is that strange to point out that Zinny's and Partey's mistake in recent games lead to goals we conceded and cost us points?
It's because you are just biased and it's easier to find a scapegoat in Holding.
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It's not strange to you that you are willing to scapegoat Zinny one of our key players this season but have nothing to say against Holding's lack of quality and how it contributed to recent results? If you can't see the hypocrisy then keep scapegoating Zinny I guess...
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Odegaard output this season has been incredible for a MF player
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
posted on 2/5/23
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comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
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Odegaard output this season has been incredible for a MF player
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Castor being positive
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Wasn't convinced after his loan performance but what a signing he has been
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Odegaard still has minutes in his games where he needs to get the game back under control.
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Just because you're unable to see how Holding being in the team contributed to our recent collapse doesn't mean it wasn't the case.
There's a reason the collapse didn't happen with Saliba in the team, this seems obvious to everyone except for you it seems
posted on 2/5/23
We were letting in goals with Saliba in the team too, it's just shown more with Holding there.
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Just because you're unable to see how Holding being in the team contributed to our recent collapse doesn't mean it wasn't the case.
There's a reason the collapse didn't happen with Saliba in the team, this seems obvious to everyone except for you it seems
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just you not able to analyse games properly doesnt really help. Keep going.
I miss Saliba as well and I know that Holding shouldnt start games for us especially not these games. To make him the culprit when Zinny and Partey made mistake after mistake in these games is plain and simple stupid.
posted on 2/5/23
The collapse we are suffering was because especially our midfielder werent at the races in the right moment. And that were our experience players. To win against a team like City you need to have 11 players at the right level.
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hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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Whats he saying?
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hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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Whats he saying?
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It was more how he said how we bottled the league, Vieira and Cesc were not having it, he just sounded thick
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Tbf we did kinda bottle it. We just overachieved at the same time.
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What channel was this?
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Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Just because you're unable to see how Holding being in the team contributed to our recent collapse doesn't mean it wasn't the case.
There's a reason the collapse didn't happen with Saliba in the team, this seems obvious to everyone except for you it seems
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just you not able to analyse games properly doesnt really help. Keep going.
I miss Saliba as well and I know that Holding shouldnt start games for us especially not these games. To make him the culprit when Zinny and Partey made mistake after mistake in these games is plain and simple stupid.
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The fact that you can see faults in other players but can see none in Holding and also want to scape Zinny even though you've been preaching no one should be scapegoated is not only stupid but also hypocritical...
posted on 2/5/23
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comment by 50 trust the process (U1147)
posted 3 seconds ago
Zinny passing hasn’t been that great lately either to make up for his pees poor defending
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Very suspect with his passing.
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Zinny is not going to get dropped, he helps us control games in ways than KT could only dream of, so better to just accept the reality
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yeah and in the end he is losing concentration that cost us points. If that happened at 2-0 I dont know if that result would have ended in a win.
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So Zinny cost us points but Holding hasnt... that makes sense I guess
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Zinny and Partey yes....they cost us direct goals and therefore points. Pls watch the games again.
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You should probably take your own advice if you actually think Holding has been flawless in our last 4 games lol
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I havent said that Holding was flawless. I said he is a squad player and way behind Saliba.
To make him the main scapegoat for us dropping points isnt right though.
You see Zinny today. The goal we conceded today was a blueprint for the goal we conceded against Liverpool.
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Just because you're unable to see how Holding being in the team contributed to our recent collapse doesn't mean it wasn't the case.
There's a reason the collapse didn't happen with Saliba in the team, this seems obvious to everyone except for you it seems
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just you not able to analyse games properly doesnt really help. Keep going.
I miss Saliba as well and I know that Holding shouldnt start games for us especially not these games. To make him the culprit when Zinny and Partey made mistake after mistake in these games is plain and simple stupid.
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The fact that you can see faults in other players but can see none in Holding and also want to scape Zinny even though you've been preaching no one should be scapegoated is not only stupid but also hypocritical...
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Again. I havent said Holding been flawless. But we are dropping points because of our experienced players made direct mistakes that leads to goals.
Because we lost control in midfield the pressure on our defense raised and yes Holding was the first who felt it.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 15 minutes ago
Tbf we did kinda bottle it. We just overachieved at the same time.
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Yes, that's the point Vieira and Cesc were saying, it was just how JFH was trying to get his point across, he just sounds thick, I actually agree with him on a few things, we messed up with Southampton and West ham.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
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comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 3 minutes ago
hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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Whats he saying?
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It was more how he said how we bottled the league, Vieira and Cesc were not having it, he just sounded thick
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The guy whose highest achievement as a player was cup runner up has no place talking about anyone bottling
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Floyd_Hasselbaink
posted on 2/5/23
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
just you not able to analyse games properly doesnt really help. Keep going.
I miss Saliba as well and I know that Holding shouldnt start games for us especially not these games. To make him the culprit when Zinny and Partey made mistake after mistake in these games is plain and simple stupid.
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The fact that you can see faults in other players but can see none in Holding and also want to scape Zinny even though you've been preaching no one should be scapegoated is not only stupid but also hypocritical...
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Again. I havent said Holding been flawless. But we are dropping points because of our experienced players made direct mistakes that leads to goals.
Because we lost control in midfield the pressure on our defense raised and yes Holding was the first who felt it.
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Well all I'm saying is you can't be saying no one should scapegoat Holding then turn around and try to scapegoat Zinny yourself, be consistent.
I can see Zinny's faults but he's contributed far more to Arsenal's success this season than Holding has in years and its funny how we hit a wall once Saliba was injured and Holding came into the team, yet you can't see the obvious difference that led to that change in fortunes... and can point to no faults in Holding but quick to zone in on flaws in Zinny and Partey, very strange!
posted on 2/5/23
Issue is Holding isn't actively making mistakes, he's actually playing at a high level within his capabilities but unfortunately he just doesn't have the ability to play at the level we want to. Plus we know he'll likely be gone in the summer.
Zinchenko can play to that level but has just been poor for an important string of games now. He's not been helping with control and has been making defensive errors, so I'd say he should be under more scrutiny.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
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comment by T-SaliBAG (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again (U8398)
posted 3 minutes ago
hasselbaink is a thick idiot
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Whats he saying?
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It was more how he said how we bottled the league, Vieira and Cesc were not having it, he just sounded thick
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The guy whose highest achievement as a player was cup runner up has no place talking about anyone bottling
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Floyd_Hasselbaink
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Is that all?
posted on 2/5/23
Zinny played the whole long season. Holding not. And if Saliba wasnt injured he obviously wouldnt have played at all.
Why is that strange to point out that Zinny's and Partey's mistake in recent games lead to goals we conceded and cost us points?
It's because you are just biased and it's easier to find a scapegoat in Holding.
posted on 2/5/23
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 18 minutes ago
Zinny played the whole long season. Holding not. And if Saliba wasnt injured he obviously wouldnt have played at all.
Why is that strange to point out that Zinny's and Partey's mistake in recent games lead to goals we conceded and cost us points?
It's because you are just biased and it's easier to find a scapegoat in Holding.
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It's not strange to you that you are willing to scapegoat Zinny one of our key players this season but have nothing to say against Holding's lack of quality and how it contributed to recent results? If you can't see the hypocrisy then keep scapegoating Zinny I guess...
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