comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
But I’ve told you numerous times I didn’t want Poch. So why do you keep repeating this lie. It’s like talking to a child.
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Didn’t you know? He’s special
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By special do you mean a constant victim of his uncle?
The criticism Ole's getting isn't because his football's defensive, boring, negative and worse than going to the dentist, it's because people don't see the team developing into challengers under him due to his perceived shortcomings as a coach.
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It pretty much is though, for some people anyway. The football now isn't quite as bad as the football we played under Mourinho was, same as the football we played under Mourinho wasn't as bad as it was under Van Gaal for the most part but that still doesn't mean it's good enough or that pleasing to watch.
I honestly couldn't care less if we're challenging or not. It's so far down the list of priorities for me, has been for quite a while.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 8 seconds ago
The criticism Ole's getting isn't because his football's defensive, boring, negative and worse than going to the dentist, it's because people don't see the team developing into challengers under him due to his perceived shortcomings as a coach.
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It pretty much is though, for some people anyway. The football now isn't quite as bad as the football we played under Mourinho was, same as the football we played under Mourinho wasn't as bad as it was under Van Gaal for the most part but that still doesn't mean it's good enough or that pleasing to watch.
I honestly couldn't care less if we're challenging or not. It's so far down the list of priorities for me, has been for quite a while.
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Agree about the Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole progression, but the prospect of another change of coach makes me very nervous. Or are we in an era where you get a new coach in every couple of years, put massive pressure on them for instant results and see what happens? Seems to be the way it's done now, maybe I should get with the times.
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
But I’ve told you numerous times I didn’t want Poch. So why do you keep repeating this lie. It’s like talking to a child.
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Didn’t you know? He’s special
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By special do you mean a constant victim of his uncle?
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First comment of the post hurls abuse then cries that he's only attacking people that abuse him
Silly little Virgin. Mommy and daddy homeschooling you today?
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 8 seconds ago
The criticism Ole's getting isn't because his football's defensive, boring, negative and worse than going to the dentist, it's because people don't see the team developing into challengers under him due to his perceived shortcomings as a coach.
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It pretty much is though, for some people anyway. The football now isn't quite as bad as the football we played under Mourinho was, same as the football we played under Mourinho wasn't as bad as it was under Van Gaal for the most part but that still doesn't mean it's good enough or that pleasing to watch.
I honestly couldn't care less if we're challenging or not. It's so far down the list of priorities for me, has been for quite a while.
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Agree about the Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole progression, but the prospect of another change of coach makes me very nervous. Or are we in an era where you get a new coach in every couple of years, put massive pressure on them for instant results and see what happens? Seems to be the way it's done now, maybe I should get with the times.
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It’s been that way for a while. A manager will have done really well if they can last longer than three years at most clubs.
The worst comment yesterday.
“I hope we finish 5th so Ole is sacked”.
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
Are you implying Ole is a better manager than Potter? lol
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It looks that way at the moment. You would have to be stupid to say otherwise. And there are some very stupid people in our fan base.
Could Potter become a better manager than Ole. Yes he could. But at the moment he is playing football that could get his team relegated.
It won’t because Newcastle are worse. So he has time on his side.
Agree about the Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole progression, but the prospect of another change of coach makes me very nervous. Or are we in an era where you get a new coach in every couple of years, put massive pressure on them for instant results and see what happens? Seems to be the way it's done now, maybe I should get with the times.
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
I don't think it's a reason not to make a change though because changing manager isn't as big a deal as some people like to make out it is because as Darren says managers rarely last more than three or four years now and there are a number of clubs who have been successful on the back of fairly frequent changes in management. For us yes it's more of an issue because we hire managers with wildly different ideals and it's one of the reasons why our squad has been in such a state.
If we introduced a base attacking philosophy that we could loosely work off of, it would make it much easier for us to change manager if we had to due to the guidelines that were set and it would also put less strain on our squad and recruitment.
Red Russian the problem is it doesn’t take into account wrong decisions that led to shots against and denied shots for that were goals or shots that were offside and would have been ruled out like the Sheffield United home game were they were miles offside but that counts as a chance or the west brom away game were there was a foul in the 2nd half when they got into a one on one situation etc or the foul they did for the goal and Sheffield united did etc.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 5 minutes ago
Red Russian the problem is it doesn’t take into account wrong decisions that led to shots against and denied shots for that were goals or shots that were offside and would have been ruled out like the Sheffield United home game were they were miles offside but that counts as a chance or the west brom away game were there was a foul in the 2nd half when they got into a one on one situation etc or the foul they did for the goal and Sheffield united did etc.
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Thanks for clearing that up Hafi!
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 9 minutes ago
If we introduced a base attacking philosophy that we could loosely work off of, it would make it much easier for us to change manager if we had to due to the guidelines that were set and it would also put less strain on our squad and recruitment.
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I'll write that for them. Attack relentlessly.
Do I get the job?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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Past experience would suggest not.
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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No the board don't care about how we play or how achieve the goals they've set for the manager. Finishing in the top four is probably the only requirement that's set in stone for a manager and if they don't achieve that I'd expect them to be gone once that season ends and I don't think it will be any different for Ole.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
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One who'll work with Ed and the Tampa Bay owners?
They'll be queuing up.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 4 minutes ago
Agree about the Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole progression, but the prospect of another change of coach makes me very nervous. Or are we in an era where you get a new coach in every couple of years, put massive pressure on them for instant results and see what happens? Seems to be the way it's done now, maybe I should get with the times.
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
I don't think it's a reason not to make a change though because changing manager isn't as big a deal as some people like to make out it is because as Darren says managers rarely last more than three or four years now and there are a number of clubs who have been successful on the back of fairly frequent changes in management. For us yes it's more of an issue because we hire managers with wildly different ideals and it's one of the reasons why our squad has been in such a state.
If we introduced a base attacking philosophy that we could loosely work off of, it would make it much easier for us to change manager if we had to due to the guidelines that were set and it would also put less strain on our squad and recruitment.
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Yep. Unfortunately, we have none of that, and, evidence suggests, won’t ever have under this ‘leadership’.
The really big problem is that we could get Potter next for 12 months, watch him finish fifth and inevitably get sacked, and then see Allegri appointed.
The following 24 months we watch Bruno wasted, the likes of Greenwood, Elanga and Hannibal shipped out, and pursuit of Sancho dropped because in Dan James we have “the best defensive winger in the world.”
The fans moan (understandably ), results drop off, and Ed brings Gasperini, who tears up the playbook. He gets 24 months, which he spends telling the club to resign Greenwood and invest in more exciting young attacking talent.
Then he’s binned off, and next it’s Conte. Etc, etc.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 hours, 39 minutes ago
It is why I rarely come on here anymore. Some of the stuff is just to stupid to deal with.
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It's 'too stupid', stupid
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
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One who'll work with Ed and the Tampa Bay owners?
They'll be queuing up.
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They would, to be fair. They’d have access to one of the biggest budgets in football, with one of the biggest scouting networks in the world, with a decent academy and owners that don’t have ridiculous high expectations when it comes to results.
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 hours, 39 minutes ago
It is why I rarely come on here anymore. Some of the stuff is just to stupid to deal with.
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It's 'too stupid', stupid
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See!
They are affecting me too.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
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One who'll work with Ed and the Tampa Bay owners?
They'll be queuing up.
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They would, to be fair. They’d have access to one of the biggest budgets in football, with one of the biggest scouting networks in the world, with a decent academy and owners that don’t have ridiculous high expectations when it comes to results.
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I dunno.
One meeting with Ed was enough to send Klopp running for the hills
Not the same, to be fair.
All the things I’ve listed would be appealing to most directors of football.
Problem is, the same is true of coaches. And given the club’s track record with appointing those, we’d probably end up with a shiiiiit director of football anyway.
The really big problem is that we could get Potter next for 12 months, watch him finish fifth and inevitably get sacked, and then see Allegri appointed.
The following 24 months we watch Bruno wasted, the likes of Greenwood, Elanga and Hannibal shipped out, and pursuit of Sancho dropped because in Dan James we have “the best defensive winger in the world.”
The fans moan (understandably ), results drop off, and Ed brings Gasperini, who tears up the playbook. He gets 24 months, which he spends telling the club to resign Greenwood and invest in more exciting young attacking talent.
Then he’s binned off, and next it’s Conte. Etc, etc.
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There's as much chance of us hiring (by accident probably) somebody who could build a side that's more than the sum of its parts, have us playing attacking football that's good to watch and have some success having done those things than there is of all of the above happening.
It doesn't only have to go one way.
comment by rosso - championing freedom of speech and freedom to refuse to listen since 2013 (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
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One who'll work with Ed and the Tampa Bay owners?
They'll be queuing up.
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They would, to be fair. They’d have access to one of the biggest budgets in football, with one of the biggest scouting networks in the world, with a decent academy and owners that don’t have ridiculous high expectations when it comes to results.
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I dunno.
One meeting with Ed was enough to send Klopp running for the hills
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"It's like Disneyland ......for ADULTS!!!"
Woodward delivered the killer line and walked away, convinced he had sealed the deal.
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 31 seconds ago
It’s a genuine question. It’s a weird thing to keep lying about.
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Its fine if that's how you want to go about it. As I said, whilst you wanted Ole and replaced with Poch (along with Robb) it had some merit behind it even though you wanted a man to replace a guy that was above him in the league and sacked)
But this Brighton drum is spectacular
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My word Clev, looks like our football has taken its toll on you. Donny didn't want Poch because of his style, that was Robb. Do keep up.
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posted on 23/2/21
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
But I’ve told you numerous times I didn’t want Poch. So why do you keep repeating this lie. It’s like talking to a child.
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Didn’t you know? He’s special
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By special do you mean a constant victim of his uncle?
posted on 23/2/21
The criticism Ole's getting isn't because his football's defensive, boring, negative and worse than going to the dentist, it's because people don't see the team developing into challengers under him due to his perceived shortcomings as a coach.
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It pretty much is though, for some people anyway. The football now isn't quite as bad as the football we played under Mourinho was, same as the football we played under Mourinho wasn't as bad as it was under Van Gaal for the most part but that still doesn't mean it's good enough or that pleasing to watch.
I honestly couldn't care less if we're challenging or not. It's so far down the list of priorities for me, has been for quite a while.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 8 seconds ago
The criticism Ole's getting isn't because his football's defensive, boring, negative and worse than going to the dentist, it's because people don't see the team developing into challengers under him due to his perceived shortcomings as a coach.
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It pretty much is though, for some people anyway. The football now isn't quite as bad as the football we played under Mourinho was, same as the football we played under Mourinho wasn't as bad as it was under Van Gaal for the most part but that still doesn't mean it's good enough or that pleasing to watch.
I honestly couldn't care less if we're challenging or not. It's so far down the list of priorities for me, has been for quite a while.
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Agree about the Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole progression, but the prospect of another change of coach makes me very nervous. Or are we in an era where you get a new coach in every couple of years, put massive pressure on them for instant results and see what happens? Seems to be the way it's done now, maybe I should get with the times.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
But I’ve told you numerous times I didn’t want Poch. So why do you keep repeating this lie. It’s like talking to a child.
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Didn’t you know? He’s special
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By special do you mean a constant victim of his uncle?
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First comment of the post hurls abuse then cries that he's only attacking people that abuse him
Silly little Virgin. Mommy and daddy homeschooling you today?
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 8 seconds ago
The criticism Ole's getting isn't because his football's defensive, boring, negative and worse than going to the dentist, it's because people don't see the team developing into challengers under him due to his perceived shortcomings as a coach.
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It pretty much is though, for some people anyway. The football now isn't quite as bad as the football we played under Mourinho was, same as the football we played under Mourinho wasn't as bad as it was under Van Gaal for the most part but that still doesn't mean it's good enough or that pleasing to watch.
I honestly couldn't care less if we're challenging or not. It's so far down the list of priorities for me, has been for quite a while.
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Agree about the Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole progression, but the prospect of another change of coach makes me very nervous. Or are we in an era where you get a new coach in every couple of years, put massive pressure on them for instant results and see what happens? Seems to be the way it's done now, maybe I should get with the times.
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It’s been that way for a while. A manager will have done really well if they can last longer than three years at most clubs.
posted on 23/2/21
The worst comment yesterday.
“I hope we finish 5th so Ole is sacked”.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
Are you implying Ole is a better manager than Potter? lol
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It looks that way at the moment. You would have to be stupid to say otherwise. And there are some very stupid people in our fan base.
Could Potter become a better manager than Ole. Yes he could. But at the moment he is playing football that could get his team relegated.
It won’t because Newcastle are worse. So he has time on his side.
posted on 23/2/21
Agree about the Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole progression, but the prospect of another change of coach makes me very nervous. Or are we in an era where you get a new coach in every couple of years, put massive pressure on them for instant results and see what happens? Seems to be the way it's done now, maybe I should get with the times.
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
I don't think it's a reason not to make a change though because changing manager isn't as big a deal as some people like to make out it is because as Darren says managers rarely last more than three or four years now and there are a number of clubs who have been successful on the back of fairly frequent changes in management. For us yes it's more of an issue because we hire managers with wildly different ideals and it's one of the reasons why our squad has been in such a state.
If we introduced a base attacking philosophy that we could loosely work off of, it would make it much easier for us to change manager if we had to due to the guidelines that were set and it would also put less strain on our squad and recruitment.
posted on 23/2/21
Red Russian the problem is it doesn’t take into account wrong decisions that led to shots against and denied shots for that were goals or shots that were offside and would have been ruled out like the Sheffield United home game were they were miles offside but that counts as a chance or the west brom away game were there was a foul in the 2nd half when they got into a one on one situation etc or the foul they did for the goal and Sheffield united did etc.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 5 minutes ago
Red Russian the problem is it doesn’t take into account wrong decisions that led to shots against and denied shots for that were goals or shots that were offside and would have been ruled out like the Sheffield United home game were they were miles offside but that counts as a chance or the west brom away game were there was a foul in the 2nd half when they got into a one on one situation etc or the foul they did for the goal and Sheffield united did etc.
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Thanks for clearing that up Hafi!
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 9 minutes ago
If we introduced a base attacking philosophy that we could loosely work off of, it would make it much easier for us to change manager if we had to due to the guidelines that were set and it would also put less strain on our squad and recruitment.
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I'll write that for them. Attack relentlessly.
Do I get the job?
posted on 23/2/21
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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Past experience would suggest not.
posted on 23/2/21
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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No the board don't care about how we play or how achieve the goals they've set for the manager. Finishing in the top four is probably the only requirement that's set in stone for a manager and if they don't achieve that I'd expect them to be gone once that season ends and I don't think it will be any different for Ole.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
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One who'll work with Ed and the Tampa Bay owners?
They'll be queuing up.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 4 minutes ago
Agree about the Van Gaal to Mourinho to Ole progression, but the prospect of another change of coach makes me very nervous. Or are we in an era where you get a new coach in every couple of years, put massive pressure on them for instant results and see what happens? Seems to be the way it's done now, maybe I should get with the times.
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
I don't think it's a reason not to make a change though because changing manager isn't as big a deal as some people like to make out it is because as Darren says managers rarely last more than three or four years now and there are a number of clubs who have been successful on the back of fairly frequent changes in management. For us yes it's more of an issue because we hire managers with wildly different ideals and it's one of the reasons why our squad has been in such a state.
If we introduced a base attacking philosophy that we could loosely work off of, it would make it much easier for us to change manager if we had to due to the guidelines that were set and it would also put less strain on our squad and recruitment.
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Yep. Unfortunately, we have none of that, and, evidence suggests, won’t ever have under this ‘leadership’.
The really big problem is that we could get Potter next for 12 months, watch him finish fifth and inevitably get sacked, and then see Allegri appointed.
The following 24 months we watch Bruno wasted, the likes of Greenwood, Elanga and Hannibal shipped out, and pursuit of Sancho dropped because in Dan James we have “the best defensive winger in the world.”
The fans moan (understandably ), results drop off, and Ed brings Gasperini, who tears up the playbook. He gets 24 months, which he spends telling the club to resign Greenwood and invest in more exciting young attacking talent.
Then he’s binned off, and next it’s Conte. Etc, etc.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 hours, 39 minutes ago
It is why I rarely come on here anymore. Some of the stuff is just to stupid to deal with.
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It's 'too stupid', stupid
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
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One who'll work with Ed and the Tampa Bay owners?
They'll be queuing up.
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They would, to be fair. They’d have access to one of the biggest budgets in football, with one of the biggest scouting networks in the world, with a decent academy and owners that don’t have ridiculous high expectations when it comes to results.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 hours, 39 minutes ago
It is why I rarely come on here anymore. Some of the stuff is just to stupid to deal with.
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It's 'too stupid', stupid
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See!
They are affecting me too.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
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One who'll work with Ed and the Tampa Bay owners?
They'll be queuing up.
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They would, to be fair. They’d have access to one of the biggest budgets in football, with one of the biggest scouting networks in the world, with a decent academy and owners that don’t have ridiculous high expectations when it comes to results.
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I dunno.
One meeting with Ed was enough to send Klopp running for the hills
posted on 23/2/21
Not the same, to be fair.
All the things I’ve listed would be appealing to most directors of football.
Problem is, the same is true of coaches. And given the club’s track record with appointing those, we’d probably end up with a shiiiiit director of football anyway.
posted on 23/2/21
The really big problem is that we could get Potter next for 12 months, watch him finish fifth and inevitably get sacked, and then see Allegri appointed.
The following 24 months we watch Bruno wasted, the likes of Greenwood, Elanga and Hannibal shipped out, and pursuit of Sancho dropped because in Dan James we have “the best defensive winger in the world.”
The fans moan (understandably ), results drop off, and Ed brings Gasperini, who tears up the playbook. He gets 24 months, which he spends telling the club to resign Greenwood and invest in more exciting young attacking talent.
Then he’s binned off, and next it’s Conte. Etc, etc.
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There's as much chance of us hiring (by accident probably) somebody who could build a side that's more than the sum of its parts, have us playing attacking football that's good to watch and have some success having done those things than there is of all of the above happening.
It doesn't only have to go one way.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by rosso - championing freedom of speech and freedom to refuse to listen since 2013 (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 5 minutes ago
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It makes me nervous due to the people who are running the club and making these decisions. The last thing we need is another pragmatic coach.
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quite...when the scouts look at a player, presumably they are assessing his overall qualities, as well as how he would fit into united's system, gel with his teammates, handle the step up from club A to playing for united etc etc etc.
is there anyone at the club capable of doing the same for managers? do we really think that woodward is able to look at someone like potter, see the job he is doing at brighton, and have any idea how that would translate into success at united?
and ignoring what the fans want to see, do we think the board will judge ole on anything other than his league position/trophy haul? can woodward judge a manager's style of play, and does he even care?
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To summarise:
WE NEED A F@CKING DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL
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One who'll work with Ed and the Tampa Bay owners?
They'll be queuing up.
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They would, to be fair. They’d have access to one of the biggest budgets in football, with one of the biggest scouting networks in the world, with a decent academy and owners that don’t have ridiculous high expectations when it comes to results.
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I dunno.
One meeting with Ed was enough to send Klopp running for the hills
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"It's like Disneyland ......for ADULTS!!!"
Woodward delivered the killer line and walked away, convinced he had sealed the deal.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Clever - son son son - '"Ole Ole Ole - The Cult One'' (U18599)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 31 seconds ago
It’s a genuine question. It’s a weird thing to keep lying about.
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Its fine if that's how you want to go about it. As I said, whilst you wanted Ole and replaced with Poch (along with Robb) it had some merit behind it even though you wanted a man to replace a guy that was above him in the league and sacked)
But this Brighton drum is spectacular
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My word Clev, looks like our football has taken its toll on you. Donny didn't want Poch because of his style, that was Robb. Do keep up.
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