comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
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Slow starts, yes. Sloppy passing? We have the 4th highest pass completion in the league. And that is with Bruno trying his risky passes as he often does. But he is 2nd highest assists maker in the PL, so we will let him off. And we've scored more goals than anyone in the league, so yeh.
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I'm sure our pass completion was right up there with LVG. Ofcourse pass completion isn't entertaining if it's sideways and backwards. We often start games with poor passing and are hopeless at keeping the ball to see out a result. And then there's our poor pass and move play.
We score a lot of goals though, mainly due to Bruno and Rashford. The question that will get asked however is what is Ole bringing to all this?
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So we have a good pass completion, but are sloppy at passing. This is what I am talking about. Just making things up.
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Diafol just gave an explanation above.
You should certainly not want to be in a category of Brighton play better Football than United.
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I am of the opinion that they do though. I can't help that I enjoy watching them play more than I do us despite us scoring more goals. I just find them generally to be more comfortable than us in their approach play which is a big part of how the game is played, it's not just about scoring goals which makes sense in such a low scoring sport. Their build up is more coherent and fluid and quite often they're able to sustain their tempo for longer than we can. They're not exactly a side who just keep the ball for the sake of it.
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Brighton do play football that is pleasing to the eye for sure but it isn’t better than ours because it leads to less goals.
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For me that just means our football is more effective than Brighton's, not more pleasing on the eye and a large part of it is down to the quality we possess in attack. We have far better players so naturally we should put the ball in the net a lot more than they should.
I wasn't even talking about Brighton anyway in my above comment, I was talking about this tedious Ole in or out bolllocks or what ever stupid names people have for either side.
I don't think Ole is doing badly enough to warrant to be fired but I also don't think he's doing well enough to make me feel it would be an unjustly harsh dismissal if he were fired.
My ideal scenario would be we continue to improve (but at a faster rate) under Ole seeing more consistent good football and results. I think we're at base camp now. The big question is can we push on or plateau?
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 13 minutes ago
I do think our passing is sloppy at times.
They may count as a 'completed' pass but sometimes when we're passing we destroy the momentum of the move by passing behind a player rather than ahead. It frustrates the hell out of me. Players should be fined for this!
We're not a bad side and we're not a great side. I think we're at a point where we could go either way. It may even only take signing one/two players to get everything like clockwork. A quick, physical CB and a mobile DM who can pass the ball.
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This happens a lot when we’re passing under pressure. But I don’t think it helps given where the players are positioned to receive the ball either.
We ask a lot of our players when building up play due to how big the gaps are between the players a lot of the time.
Which is often why they play a lot of passes between themselves at the back to retain the ball. But a lot of the best sides provide more and, or, better passing options which makes it easier to play shorter, sharper passes.
It really doesn’t help that our forwards are so shiiiiiit in the air, either. We had these problems with building up play under Fergie at times (not a surprise with Phelan training both teams) but had better passers of the ball in the side, and attackers that could win it when we go long.
We’ve forced ourselves into being a team that has to keep the ball on the floor. Which is fine, but we just aren’t that good with it.
I tear my hair out watching us at times. A simple pass into the path of Shaw or AWB is played square or behind and the space they could have run into is gone.
Yes, when you look at City, you do see them closer to one another and they can just pop the ball around at will. I think I read at Barca Pep always likes three passing options for the player on the ball at all times. It all sounds so simple doesn't it? It probably is which is what makes it frustrating.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 11 minutes ago
You should certainly not want to be in a category of Brighton play better Football than United.
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I am of the opinion that they do though. I can't help that I enjoy watching them play more than I do us despite us scoring more goals. I just find them generally to be more comfortable than us in their approach play which is a big part of how the game is played, it's not just about scoring goals which makes sense in such a low scoring sport. Their build up is more coherent and fluid and quite often they're able to sustain their tempo for longer than we can. They're not exactly a side who just keep the ball for the sake of it.
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Brighton do play football that is pleasing to the eye for sure but it isn’t better than ours because it leads to less goals.
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For me that just means our football is more effective than Brighton's, not more pleasing on the eye and a large part of it is down to the quality we possess in attack. We have far better players so naturally we should put the ball in the net a lot more than they should.
I wasn't even talking about Brighton anyway in my above comment, I was talking about this tedious Ole in or out bolllocks or what ever stupid names people have for either side.
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I don't think there is actually an Ole In faction, unless you count Culer, who's just a tedious nuisance. People who aren't baying for his head tend to qualify whatever they're saying with an acknowledgement of our shortcomings. I haven't read any hyberbole from anyone about his ability. Unless you count Culer. All the heat and noise seems to generated by a few quite vociferous individuals.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
I tear my hair out watching us at times. A simple pass into the path of Shaw or AWB is played square or behind and the space they could have run into is gone.
Yes, when you look at City, you do see them closer to one another and they can just pop the ball around at will. I think I read at Barca Pep always likes three passing options for the player on the ball at all times. It all sounds so simple doesn't it? It probably is which is what makes it frustrating.
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I don’t think it is that simple where Pep’s concerned. It’s renowned to be tactically very heavy on the players, and it does require a very high technical level to pull off effectively - it’s why none of his teams have been as good in possession as his Barca teams, as they’ve not been at that technical level that Barca’s players were. There’s a reason Pep says he wouldn’t be able to get teams playing the way he has without brilliant players, because it’s actually really hard.
But we aren’t comparing the team with Pep’s teams, nor should we given the gap in quality between our team and his ones. We’re comparing them to Brighton.
They’re showing that a well drilled team in possession can still play good football, even without the very best players. And they’re just one example.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
I tear my hair out watching us at times. A simple pass into the path of Shaw or AWB is played square or behind and the space they could have run into is gone.
Yes, when you look at City, you do see them closer to one another and they can just pop the ball around at will. I think I read at Barca Pep always likes three passing options for the player on the ball at all times. It all sounds so simple doesn't it? It probably is which is what makes it frustrating.
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Not quite as much as they used to be at City.
Pep has purposefully made them less ball-oriented and roving in possession this season. He’s said he doesn’t want them burning their energy in possession, and you see that through their transition and in their build up play.
They just move the ball faster and more frequently than us. People give sideways and backwards passing a lot of abuse, but his players also aren’t scared to do it if they’re doing it for a reason.
What Pep’s sides always excel at is access. I get the impression Pep is obsessed with it. It doesn’t always have to mean a huge amount of movement; it does mean, however, that you have players capable of and trained to making the right decisions on their movement and early. Players who read the game well in possession and not just out of it.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
I tear my hair out watching us at times. A simple pass into the path of Shaw or AWB is played square or behind and the space they could have run into is gone.
Yes, when you look at City, you do see them closer to one another and they can just pop the ball around at will. I think I read at Barca Pep always likes three passing options for the player on the ball at all times. It all sounds so simple doesn't it? It probably is which is what makes it frustrating.
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I don’t think it is that simple where Pep’s concerned. It’s renowned to be tactically very heavy on the players, and it does require a very high technical level to pull off effectively - it’s why none of his teams have been as good in possession as his Barca teams, as they’ve not been at that technical level that Barca’s players were. There’s a reason Pep says he wouldn’t be able to get teams playing the way he has without brilliant players, because it’s actually really hard.
But we aren’t comparing the team with Pep’s teams, nor should we given the gap in quality between our team and his ones. We’re comparing them to Brighton.
They’re showing that a well drilled team in possession can still play good football, even without the very best players. And they’re just one example.
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I'm not asking for Pep's Barca of course but we should be able to do the basics more consistently IMO. I also don't think it's too much to ask to provide our players with options when on the ball.
I do wonder with Ole though whether he's trying too hard to copy SAF. SAF was undoubtedly the manager and oversaw everything. Perhaps Ole just needs to concentrate on the coaching side of things. It seems his job of a 'culture reset' could be something that a DoF could do. That's a debate for a different day though.
I was talking about this tedious Ole in or out bolllocks or what ever stupid names people have for either side.
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Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
My issue is United fans who would rather see us finish 5th so that we sack Ole just so we can appoint someone else. Who might end up being worse.
I am not an Ole fan but I would rather see the club going in the direction it is than hiring and firing managers hoping we will find the right one.
I don't think there is actually an Ole In faction
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I know, that's exactly what I mean, yet the terms are thrown around so much. It's just really tiresome.
Oh yeah I agree with that. Was just making a comment on Pep and passing options. Those passing options are limited to tight spaces given how they would box teams in. You need to the confidence, and ability, to take the ball in those tight spaces. This is where we’ll have problems no matter how well we’re coached, to be fair.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think there is actually an Ole In faction
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I know, that's exactly what I mean, yet the terms are thrown around so much. It's just really tiresome.
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If the small, well known group that pushes the faction narrative could desist, or the rest of us could stop responding to them, we could all hold hands and be friends.
I know, that's exactly what I mean, yet the terms are thrown around so much. It's just really tiresome.
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There is an Ole out faction though and they are relentless.
I wasn’t for his appointment either but I haven’t had an agenda against him non stop.
Yes our football isn’t always pleasing to the eye but it isn’t always dire either. It is a mixture of poor, average and good.
I put this mostly down to playing two games a week.
But we aren’t comparing the team with Pep’s teams, nor should we given the gap in quality between our team and his ones.
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 27 minutes ago
I was talking about this tedious Ole in or out bolllocks or what ever stupid names people have for either side.
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Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
My issue is United fans who would rather see us finish 5th so that we sack Ole just so we can appoint someone else. Who might end up being worse.
I am not an Ole fan but I would rather see the club going in the direction it is than hiring and firing managers hoping we will find the right one.
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You wanted him out after we got knocked out the CL by Leipzig.
they are relentless.
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That's very true but these people are as relentless as other people can be defensive at times, even against reasoned argument which can get lost among all the silliness and that's why this place can be so exhausting.
You wanted him out after we got knocked out the CL by Leipzig.
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Yes. An over reaction to one game on my part.
Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
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Not so cleverson?
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 40 seconds ago
they are relentless.
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That's very true but these people are as relentless as other people can be defensive at times, even against reasoned argument which can get lost among all the silliness and that's why this place can be so exhausting.
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It reminds me of the arguments on the Arsenal board at the tail end of Wenger's reign. The WOBs got to see Wenger replaced by Emery, the AKBs said I told you so afterwards. Great fun.
comment by Wahl _ (U22545)
posted 1 minute ago
Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
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Not so cleverson?
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One man a faction doth not make, Wahl, you clot.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 30 minutes ago
Oh yeah I agree with that. Was just making a comment on Pep and passing options. Those passing options are limited to tight spaces given how they would box teams in. You need to the confidence, and ability, to take the ball in those tight spaces. This is where we’ll have problems no matter how well we’re coached, to be fair.
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You also have to make yourself available, and that’s the beauty of a focus on access in all areas of the pitch: it becomes natural - you’re thinking about it all the time, and then you’re not even thinking about it and just doing it.
The more you do it, the better your instincts, reading of your teammates, small movements, next choice of pass, decision where you’re going next, touch, etc.
comment by Wahl _ (U22545)
posted 4 minutes ago
Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
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Not so cleverson?
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Jose
One man a faction doth not make, Wahl, you clot.
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Bit of a dummy is our Wahl.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 seconds ago
One man a faction doth not make, Wahl, you clot.
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Bit of a dummy is our Wahl.
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I'm trying to work out what he's actually for, it's another one joke character, isn't it?
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posted on 23/2/21
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
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Slow starts, yes. Sloppy passing? We have the 4th highest pass completion in the league. And that is with Bruno trying his risky passes as he often does. But he is 2nd highest assists maker in the PL, so we will let him off. And we've scored more goals than anyone in the league, so yeh.
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I'm sure our pass completion was right up there with LVG. Ofcourse pass completion isn't entertaining if it's sideways and backwards. We often start games with poor passing and are hopeless at keeping the ball to see out a result. And then there's our poor pass and move play.
We score a lot of goals though, mainly due to Bruno and Rashford. The question that will get asked however is what is Ole bringing to all this?
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So we have a good pass completion, but are sloppy at passing. This is what I am talking about. Just making things up.
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Diafol just gave an explanation above.
posted on 23/2/21
You should certainly not want to be in a category of Brighton play better Football than United.
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I am of the opinion that they do though. I can't help that I enjoy watching them play more than I do us despite us scoring more goals. I just find them generally to be more comfortable than us in their approach play which is a big part of how the game is played, it's not just about scoring goals which makes sense in such a low scoring sport. Their build up is more coherent and fluid and quite often they're able to sustain their tempo for longer than we can. They're not exactly a side who just keep the ball for the sake of it.
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Brighton do play football that is pleasing to the eye for sure but it isn’t better than ours because it leads to less goals.
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For me that just means our football is more effective than Brighton's, not more pleasing on the eye and a large part of it is down to the quality we possess in attack. We have far better players so naturally we should put the ball in the net a lot more than they should.
I wasn't even talking about Brighton anyway in my above comment, I was talking about this tedious Ole in or out bolllocks or what ever stupid names people have for either side.
posted on 23/2/21
I don't think Ole is doing badly enough to warrant to be fired but I also don't think he's doing well enough to make me feel it would be an unjustly harsh dismissal if he were fired.
My ideal scenario would be we continue to improve (but at a faster rate) under Ole seeing more consistent good football and results. I think we're at base camp now. The big question is can we push on or plateau?
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 13 minutes ago
I do think our passing is sloppy at times.
They may count as a 'completed' pass but sometimes when we're passing we destroy the momentum of the move by passing behind a player rather than ahead. It frustrates the hell out of me. Players should be fined for this!
We're not a bad side and we're not a great side. I think we're at a point where we could go either way. It may even only take signing one/two players to get everything like clockwork. A quick, physical CB and a mobile DM who can pass the ball.
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This happens a lot when we’re passing under pressure. But I don’t think it helps given where the players are positioned to receive the ball either.
We ask a lot of our players when building up play due to how big the gaps are between the players a lot of the time.
Which is often why they play a lot of passes between themselves at the back to retain the ball. But a lot of the best sides provide more and, or, better passing options which makes it easier to play shorter, sharper passes.
It really doesn’t help that our forwards are so shiiiiiit in the air, either. We had these problems with building up play under Fergie at times (not a surprise with Phelan training both teams) but had better passers of the ball in the side, and attackers that could win it when we go long.
We’ve forced ourselves into being a team that has to keep the ball on the floor. Which is fine, but we just aren’t that good with it.
posted on 23/2/21
I tear my hair out watching us at times. A simple pass into the path of Shaw or AWB is played square or behind and the space they could have run into is gone.
Yes, when you look at City, you do see them closer to one another and they can just pop the ball around at will. I think I read at Barca Pep always likes three passing options for the player on the ball at all times. It all sounds so simple doesn't it? It probably is which is what makes it frustrating.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 11 minutes ago
You should certainly not want to be in a category of Brighton play better Football than United.
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I am of the opinion that they do though. I can't help that I enjoy watching them play more than I do us despite us scoring more goals. I just find them generally to be more comfortable than us in their approach play which is a big part of how the game is played, it's not just about scoring goals which makes sense in such a low scoring sport. Their build up is more coherent and fluid and quite often they're able to sustain their tempo for longer than we can. They're not exactly a side who just keep the ball for the sake of it.
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Brighton do play football that is pleasing to the eye for sure but it isn’t better than ours because it leads to less goals.
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For me that just means our football is more effective than Brighton's, not more pleasing on the eye and a large part of it is down to the quality we possess in attack. We have far better players so naturally we should put the ball in the net a lot more than they should.
I wasn't even talking about Brighton anyway in my above comment, I was talking about this tedious Ole in or out bolllocks or what ever stupid names people have for either side.
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I don't think there is actually an Ole In faction, unless you count Culer, who's just a tedious nuisance. People who aren't baying for his head tend to qualify whatever they're saying with an acknowledgement of our shortcomings. I haven't read any hyberbole from anyone about his ability. Unless you count Culer. All the heat and noise seems to generated by a few quite vociferous individuals.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
I tear my hair out watching us at times. A simple pass into the path of Shaw or AWB is played square or behind and the space they could have run into is gone.
Yes, when you look at City, you do see them closer to one another and they can just pop the ball around at will. I think I read at Barca Pep always likes three passing options for the player on the ball at all times. It all sounds so simple doesn't it? It probably is which is what makes it frustrating.
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I don’t think it is that simple where Pep’s concerned. It’s renowned to be tactically very heavy on the players, and it does require a very high technical level to pull off effectively - it’s why none of his teams have been as good in possession as his Barca teams, as they’ve not been at that technical level that Barca’s players were. There’s a reason Pep says he wouldn’t be able to get teams playing the way he has without brilliant players, because it’s actually really hard.
But we aren’t comparing the team with Pep’s teams, nor should we given the gap in quality between our team and his ones. We’re comparing them to Brighton.
They’re showing that a well drilled team in possession can still play good football, even without the very best players. And they’re just one example.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
I tear my hair out watching us at times. A simple pass into the path of Shaw or AWB is played square or behind and the space they could have run into is gone.
Yes, when you look at City, you do see them closer to one another and they can just pop the ball around at will. I think I read at Barca Pep always likes three passing options for the player on the ball at all times. It all sounds so simple doesn't it? It probably is which is what makes it frustrating.
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Not quite as much as they used to be at City.
Pep has purposefully made them less ball-oriented and roving in possession this season. He’s said he doesn’t want them burning their energy in possession, and you see that through their transition and in their build up play.
They just move the ball faster and more frequently than us. People give sideways and backwards passing a lot of abuse, but his players also aren’t scared to do it if they’re doing it for a reason.
What Pep’s sides always excel at is access. I get the impression Pep is obsessed with it. It doesn’t always have to mean a huge amount of movement; it does mean, however, that you have players capable of and trained to making the right decisions on their movement and early. Players who read the game well in possession and not just out of it.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
I tear my hair out watching us at times. A simple pass into the path of Shaw or AWB is played square or behind and the space they could have run into is gone.
Yes, when you look at City, you do see them closer to one another and they can just pop the ball around at will. I think I read at Barca Pep always likes three passing options for the player on the ball at all times. It all sounds so simple doesn't it? It probably is which is what makes it frustrating.
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I don’t think it is that simple where Pep’s concerned. It’s renowned to be tactically very heavy on the players, and it does require a very high technical level to pull off effectively - it’s why none of his teams have been as good in possession as his Barca teams, as they’ve not been at that technical level that Barca’s players were. There’s a reason Pep says he wouldn’t be able to get teams playing the way he has without brilliant players, because it’s actually really hard.
But we aren’t comparing the team with Pep’s teams, nor should we given the gap in quality between our team and his ones. We’re comparing them to Brighton.
They’re showing that a well drilled team in possession can still play good football, even without the very best players. And they’re just one example.
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I'm not asking for Pep's Barca of course but we should be able to do the basics more consistently IMO. I also don't think it's too much to ask to provide our players with options when on the ball.
I do wonder with Ole though whether he's trying too hard to copy SAF. SAF was undoubtedly the manager and oversaw everything. Perhaps Ole just needs to concentrate on the coaching side of things. It seems his job of a 'culture reset' could be something that a DoF could do. That's a debate for a different day though.
posted on 23/2/21
I was talking about this tedious Ole in or out bolllocks or what ever stupid names people have for either side.
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Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
My issue is United fans who would rather see us finish 5th so that we sack Ole just so we can appoint someone else. Who might end up being worse.
I am not an Ole fan but I would rather see the club going in the direction it is than hiring and firing managers hoping we will find the right one.
posted on 23/2/21
I don't think there is actually an Ole In faction
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I know, that's exactly what I mean, yet the terms are thrown around so much. It's just really tiresome.
posted on 23/2/21
Oh yeah I agree with that. Was just making a comment on Pep and passing options. Those passing options are limited to tight spaces given how they would box teams in. You need to the confidence, and ability, to take the ball in those tight spaces. This is where we’ll have problems no matter how well we’re coached, to be fair.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think there is actually an Ole In faction
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I know, that's exactly what I mean, yet the terms are thrown around so much. It's just really tiresome.
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If the small, well known group that pushes the faction narrative could desist, or the rest of us could stop responding to them, we could all hold hands and be friends.
posted on 23/2/21
I know, that's exactly what I mean, yet the terms are thrown around so much. It's just really tiresome.
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There is an Ole out faction though and they are relentless.
I wasn’t for his appointment either but I haven’t had an agenda against him non stop.
Yes our football isn’t always pleasing to the eye but it isn’t always dire either. It is a mixture of poor, average and good.
I put this mostly down to playing two games a week.
posted on 23/2/21
But we aren’t comparing the team with Pep’s teams, nor should we given the gap in quality between our team and his ones.
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posted on 23/2/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 27 minutes ago
I was talking about this tedious Ole in or out bolllocks or what ever stupid names people have for either side.
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Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
My issue is United fans who would rather see us finish 5th so that we sack Ole just so we can appoint someone else. Who might end up being worse.
I am not an Ole fan but I would rather see the club going in the direction it is than hiring and firing managers hoping we will find the right one.
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You wanted him out after we got knocked out the CL by Leipzig.
posted on 23/2/21
they are relentless.
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That's very true but these people are as relentless as other people can be defensive at times, even against reasoned argument which can get lost among all the silliness and that's why this place can be so exhausting.
posted on 23/2/21
You wanted him out after we got knocked out the CL by Leipzig.
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Yes. An over reaction to one game on my part.
posted on 23/2/21
Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
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Not so cleverson?
posted on 23/2/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 40 seconds ago
they are relentless.
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That's very true but these people are as relentless as other people can be defensive at times, even against reasoned argument which can get lost among all the silliness and that's why this place can be so exhausting.
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It reminds me of the arguments on the Arsenal board at the tail end of Wenger's reign. The WOBs got to see Wenger replaced by Emery, the AKBs said I told you so afterwards. Great fun.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Wahl _ (U22545)
posted 1 minute ago
Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
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Not so cleverson?
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One man a faction doth not make, Wahl, you clot.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 30 minutes ago
Oh yeah I agree with that. Was just making a comment on Pep and passing options. Those passing options are limited to tight spaces given how they would box teams in. You need to the confidence, and ability, to take the ball in those tight spaces. This is where we’ll have problems no matter how well we’re coached, to be fair.
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You also have to make yourself available, and that’s the beauty of a focus on access in all areas of the pitch: it becomes natural - you’re thinking about it all the time, and then you’re not even thinking about it and just doing it.
The more you do it, the better your instincts, reading of your teammates, small movements, next choice of pass, decision where you’re going next, touch, etc.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Wahl _ (U22545)
posted 4 minutes ago
Who is in this Ole in faction. Culer isnt a United fan so he does not count.
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Not so cleverson?
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Jose
posted on 23/2/21
One man a faction doth not make, Wahl, you clot.
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Bit of a dummy is our Wahl.
posted on 23/2/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 seconds ago
One man a faction doth not make, Wahl, you clot.
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Bit of a dummy is our Wahl.
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I'm trying to work out what he's actually for, it's another one joke character, isn't it?
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