comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
Maybe the players don’t believe in the tactics Hose is serving up.
Buck stops with the manager I’m afraid.
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Just like it will stop with the next manager and the next manager and the next manager
It will never be the players, the common denominator here, that’s the issue. Even when their own captain admits it’s their fault, it’s not enough evidence.
"invetiable crash - like Chelsea under Fat Franky?"
also...Frank got us 4th & into the CL where we are currently in the last 8 draw today, & got us to an FA Cup final
Inevitably & it looks like correctly, despite this he was found wanting & replaced...
Jose still earning a fackin fortune with jumpers for goalposts football...(& at Spurs which is double Jeopardy)
You & him deserve each other
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
Maybe the players don’t believe in the tactics Hose is serving up.
Buck stops with the manager I’m afraid.
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Just like it will stop with the next manager and the next manager and the next manager
It will never be the players, the common denominator here, that’s the issue. Even when their own captain admits it’s their fault, it’s not enough evidence.
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The captain said the players didn’t perform well and I’ve already explained that’s because they don’t care for Jose or his tactics, the same way it’s been for pretty much the whole season.
Are are you too thick to read
Jose got backed in the summer heavily, and there were no complaints about it, no excuses were going to be made this season. And now that it’s all unravelling, it’s all of a sudden all down to the players now?
You’ve got to think of better excuses than this, Jose had his own players and was happy with the transfer window, but now that we’re playing utter shiiitte, they’re not good enough? That’s quite poor.
Jose out please.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 21 minutes ago
Mourinho is in charge of the players and it’s his job to motivate them. Obviously if they’re not performing then he’s lost the trust and respect of the players, and that’s all on Jose.
Jose out.
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So when they stopped performing for Pockets, the totenham fan version of Jesus Christ, did he lose their trust and respect?
Here's a theory, maybe your players are just massive priiicks. Ever considered that.
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Yes they hit a brick wall after that CL final, Poch said it himself, that's probably as far as he could have taken them.
I don't think it's just down to the players, but they do take the blame. But Jose hasn't been able to rectify the attitude of those players, that falls on his head. The manager has to take responsibility for that.
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Maybe it's not possible. When their own captain is fuming like that about their attitudes, maybe the players just are beyond helping.
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Some of them probably are, I've highlighted Bale before as being petulant these days. Some of them will be bad apples, but it's down to the manager to fix that, Jose hasn't done that.
Let's say Bale is one of the bad apples in the bunch, Jose brought him to the club on astronomical wages, he surely takes fault for that?
Poch got a no better team to a CL final after a summer of no spending. Mourinho gets knocked out in the round of 16 of the Europa to a mediocre team, after one of our best summer windows.
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comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 11 seconds ago
Wahl thinks Chelsea fans were sad Jose got sacked
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Would you prefer he stayed and Chelsea ended up in the Championship?
Mourinho's last individual award was the International Federation of Football History & Statistics best manager award in 2012.
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posted 12 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 21 minutes ago
Mourinho is in charge of the players and it’s his job to motivate them. Obviously if they’re not performing then he’s lost the trust and respect of the players, and that’s all on Jose.
Jose out.
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Would love you to respond to this
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So when they stopped performing for Pockets, the totenham fan version of Jesus Christ, did he lose their trust and respect?
Here's a theory, maybe your players are just massive priiicks. Ever considered that.
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Yes they hit a brick wall after that CL final, Poch said it himself, that's probably as far as he could have taken them.
I don't think it's just down to the players, but they do take the blame. But Jose hasn't been able to rectify the attitude of those players, that falls on his head. The manager has to take responsibility for that.
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Maybe it's not possible. When their own captain is fuming like that about their attitudes, maybe the players just are beyond helping.
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Some of them probably are, I've highlighted Bale before as being petulant these days. Some of them will be bad apples, but it's down to the manager to fix that, Jose hasn't done that.
Let's say Bale is one of the bad apples in the bunch, Jose brought him to the club on astronomical wages, he surely takes fault for that?
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It depends on what the manager tries to do to solve the problem of the player's attitude. If he tries everything and nothing works, then the fault is the player.
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comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 21 minutes ago
Mourinho is in charge of the players and it’s his job to motivate them. Obviously if they’re not performing then he’s lost the trust and respect of the players, and that’s all on Jose.
Jose out.
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So when they stopped performing for Pockets, the totenham fan version of Jesus Christ, did he lose their trust and respect?
Here's a theory, maybe your players are just massive priiicks. Ever considered that.
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Yes they hit a brick wall after that CL final, Poch said it himself, that's probably as far as he could have taken them.
I don't think it's just down to the players, but they do take the blame. But Jose hasn't been able to rectify the attitude of those players, that falls on his head. The manager has to take responsibility for that.
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Maybe it's not possible. When their own captain is fuming like that about their attitudes, maybe the players just are beyond helping.
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Some of them probably are, I've highlighted Bale before as being petulant these days. Some of them will be bad apples, but it's down to the manager to fix that, Jose hasn't done that.
Let's say Bale is one of the bad apples in the bunch, Jose brought him to the club on astronomical wages, he surely takes fault for that?
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It depends on what the manager tries to do to solve the problem of the player's attitude. If he tries everything and nothing works, then the fault is the player.
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If he tries and nothing works, it's the fault of the manager's because he cannot rectify the issue. If he doesn't know how to do it, that's his fault.
He's been around long enough and has managed many top players, some with good attitudes, some with bad. If he can't sort it out now at Spurs, then unfortunately I think Jose is at fault.
Maybe Mourinho, having managed some of the best players in the world in the past, thinks that if a player doesn't respond to his methods then they probably aren't worth his time. If what was good enough for Frank Lampard isn't good enough for Dele Alli, then why should Mourinho bother with Dele Alli. He's not worth the effort.
Football moves on, Lampard and Alli are a generation apart. Maybe what worked for Lampard 15 years ago doesn't work no more? Time has moved on, football has changed since then.
If they aren't worth his time, he needs to get rid. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors for Alli, he won't be short of options, just get rid of him, why is he keeping hold of him?
I have said Mourinho may stay and will need to get a group of players that will play under him. But there's no doubt that some of those players there right now don't play for him, evidenced by last night's result. That isn't an example of good management.
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 10 minutes ago
Maybe Mourinho, having managed some of the best players in the world in the past, thinks that if a player doesn't respond to his methods then they probably aren't worth his time. If what was good enough for Frank Lampard isn't good enough for Dele Alli, then why should Mourinho bother with Dele Alli. He's not worth the effort.
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It depends on what the manager tries to do to solve the problem of the player's attitude. If he tries everything and nothing works, then the fault is the player.
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Weak excuse,that's literally his job to adjust their attitudes and if he cannot or they refuse, he should get rid or not play them, just like he treated Ali. There's more than 1 way to adjust attitudes and his methods doesn't seem to be working at the mo.
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 10 minutes ago
Maybe Mourinho, having managed some of the best players in the world in the past, thinks that if a player doesn't respond to his methods then they probably aren't worth his time. If what was good enough for Frank Lampard isn't good enough for Dele Alli, then why should Mourinho bother with Dele Alli. He's not worth the effort.
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By this logic the players should be professional and listen to the manager. But they don't
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 minutes ago
Football moves on, Lampard and Alli are a generation apart. Maybe what worked for Lampard 15 years ago doesn't work no more? Time has moved on, football has changed since then.
If they aren't worth his time, he needs to get rid. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors for Alli, he won't be short of options, just get rid of him, why is he keeping hold of him?
I have said Mourinho may stay and will need to get a group of players that will play under him. But there's no doubt that some of those players there right now don't play for him, evidenced by last night's result. That isn't an example of good management.
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I'm sure he'd love to get rid of Alli.
But I agree, he needs to build his own squad. This isn't a Mourinho team and all of the best Mourinho teams have had at least 5-6 Mourinho signings as first team regulars. I don't understand why people demand some managers be given time yet less than two year since Mourinho took over and some want him fried.
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 10 minutes ago
Maybe Mourinho, having managed some of the best players in the world in the past, thinks that if a player doesn't respond to his methods then they probably aren't worth his time. If what was good enough for Frank Lampard isn't good enough for Dele Alli, then why should Mourinho bother with Dele Alli. He's not worth the effort.
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By this logic the players should be professional and listen to the manager. But they don't
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Well no, you literally asked why should he bother.
The answer is his £15,000,000 per annum salary.
It's pretty clear Jose's cant be bothered attitude that you've just highlighted has been passed onto the players.
Perhaps the players attitudes towards playing for a manager are somewhat influenced by the managers attitude to the players themselves,the club he works for and the day to day interactions or lack of them.
There is a history of Mourinho leaving clubs because of the toxic atmosphere he has been the cause of that Wahl seems to refuse to believe.
Why is that Wahl?
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 minutes ago
Football moves on, Lampard and Alli are a generation apart. Maybe what worked for Lampard 15 years ago doesn't work no more? Time has moved on, football has changed since then.
If they aren't worth his time, he needs to get rid. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors for Alli, he won't be short of options, just get rid of him, why is he keeping hold of him?
I have said Mourinho may stay and will need to get a group of players that will play under him. But there's no doubt that some of those players there right now don't play for him, evidenced by last night's result. That isn't an example of good management.
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I'm sure he'd love to get rid of Alli.
But I agree, he needs to build his own squad. This isn't a Mourinho team and all of the best Mourinho teams have had at least 5-6 Mourinho signings as first team regulars. I don't understand why people demand some managers be given time yet less than two year since Mourinho took over and some want him fried.
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You also have to balance that with what's happening right now. What happens if Spurs can't afford to give Mourinho the 5/6 signings he would want?
He wanted the Inter Milan CB in the summer, he ended up with Joe Rodon instead. I don't think Spurs will be as happy to go and spend like United and Chelsea did for him, this could be 3/4 seasons yet whereas that wasn't the case at United or Chelsea.
I think Mourinho could do it, but I also think looking at the situation now, it's going to take too much time and too many years of mediocrity until Spurs get to that point and he may even leave himself before that happens. It's only going one way for Spurs at the moment.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 20 minutes ago
Perhaps the players attitudes towards playing for a manager are somewhat influenced by the managers attitude to the players themselves,the club he works for and the day to day interactions or lack of them.
There is a history of Mourinho leaving clubs because of the toxic atmosphere he has been the cause of that Wahl seems to refuse to believe.
Why is that Wahl?
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love...
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 minutes ago
Football moves on, Lampard and Alli are a generation apart. Maybe what worked for Lampard 15 years ago doesn't work no more? Time has moved on, football has changed since then.
If they aren't worth his time, he needs to get rid. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors for Alli, he won't be short of options, just get rid of him, why is he keeping hold of him?
I have said Mourinho may stay and will need to get a group of players that will play under him. But there's no doubt that some of those players there right now don't play for him, evidenced by last night's result. That isn't an example of good management.
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I'm sure he'd love to get rid of Alli.
But I agree, he needs to build his own squad. This isn't a Mourinho team and all of the best Mourinho teams have had at least 5-6 Mourinho signings as first team regulars. I don't understand why people demand some managers be given time yet less than two year since Mourinho took over and some want him fried.
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Bro, this is Spurs and tightwad levy, not Man City. - he's not gonna be given the money to buy the best players in the market if the ones he has aren't good enough for him - why do you think he could only sign the wrong Fernandes?
But I agree..jose needs to be given time at Spurs. Give him 20 years
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
You know hindsight is 20/20 isnt it but with Lloris clearly being able to do as the manager asks Jose probably should have to him not to let any goals in and then they be in the next round.
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Maybe Lloris should take over as manager?
The is a good point. I mean Levy told Jose to win and because he's got such a fvuuuuuurrrrrking terrible level of professionalism he didn't do it.
You're missing the point on purpose to be a nob. Mourinho told the players that they had a job to do to finish the tie and Lloris has said that this message was clear. But the attitude of the players show they didn't take the message seriously and that was why they lost.
It could not be more clear. Lloris spelled it out in his interview, Mourinho spelled it out in his interview, it was there all over the perfomances of those tottenham players. But people want to view everything black and white (apart from averagefan to be fair, he did look at it from both ways) and just put everything on Mourinho.
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posted on 19/3/21
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
Maybe the players don’t believe in the tactics Hose is serving up.
Buck stops with the manager I’m afraid.
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Just like it will stop with the next manager and the next manager and the next manager
It will never be the players, the common denominator here, that’s the issue. Even when their own captain admits it’s their fault, it’s not enough evidence.
posted on 19/3/21
"invetiable crash - like Chelsea under Fat Franky?"
also...Frank got us 4th & into the CL where we are currently in the last 8 draw today, & got us to an FA Cup final
Inevitably & it looks like correctly, despite this he was found wanting & replaced...
Jose still earning a fackin fortune with jumpers for goalposts football...(& at Spurs which is double Jeopardy)
You & him deserve each other
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
Maybe the players don’t believe in the tactics Hose is serving up.
Buck stops with the manager I’m afraid.
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Just like it will stop with the next manager and the next manager and the next manager
It will never be the players, the common denominator here, that’s the issue. Even when their own captain admits it’s their fault, it’s not enough evidence.
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The captain said the players didn’t perform well and I’ve already explained that’s because they don’t care for Jose or his tactics, the same way it’s been for pretty much the whole season.
Are are you too thick to read
posted on 19/3/21
Jose got backed in the summer heavily, and there were no complaints about it, no excuses were going to be made this season. And now that it’s all unravelling, it’s all of a sudden all down to the players now?
You’ve got to think of better excuses than this, Jose had his own players and was happy with the transfer window, but now that we’re playing utter shiiitte, they’re not good enough? That’s quite poor.
Jose out please.
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 21 minutes ago
Mourinho is in charge of the players and it’s his job to motivate them. Obviously if they’re not performing then he’s lost the trust and respect of the players, and that’s all on Jose.
Jose out.
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So when they stopped performing for Pockets, the totenham fan version of Jesus Christ, did he lose their trust and respect?
Here's a theory, maybe your players are just massive priiicks. Ever considered that.
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Yes they hit a brick wall after that CL final, Poch said it himself, that's probably as far as he could have taken them.
I don't think it's just down to the players, but they do take the blame. But Jose hasn't been able to rectify the attitude of those players, that falls on his head. The manager has to take responsibility for that.
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Maybe it's not possible. When their own captain is fuming like that about their attitudes, maybe the players just are beyond helping.
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Some of them probably are, I've highlighted Bale before as being petulant these days. Some of them will be bad apples, but it's down to the manager to fix that, Jose hasn't done that.
Let's say Bale is one of the bad apples in the bunch, Jose brought him to the club on astronomical wages, he surely takes fault for that?
posted on 19/3/21
Poch got a no better team to a CL final after a summer of no spending. Mourinho gets knocked out in the round of 16 of the Europa to a mediocre team, after one of our best summer windows.
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 11 seconds ago
Wahl thinks Chelsea fans were sad Jose got sacked
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35143511
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Would you prefer he stayed and Chelsea ended up in the Championship?
posted on 19/3/21
Mourinho's last individual award was the International Federation of Football History & Statistics best manager award in 2012.
posted on 19/3/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 12 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 21 minutes ago
Mourinho is in charge of the players and it’s his job to motivate them. Obviously if they’re not performing then he’s lost the trust and respect of the players, and that’s all on Jose.
Jose out.
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Would love you to respond to this
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So when they stopped performing for Pockets, the totenham fan version of Jesus Christ, did he lose their trust and respect?
Here's a theory, maybe your players are just massive priiicks. Ever considered that.
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Yes they hit a brick wall after that CL final, Poch said it himself, that's probably as far as he could have taken them.
I don't think it's just down to the players, but they do take the blame. But Jose hasn't been able to rectify the attitude of those players, that falls on his head. The manager has to take responsibility for that.
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Maybe it's not possible. When their own captain is fuming like that about their attitudes, maybe the players just are beyond helping.
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Some of them probably are, I've highlighted Bale before as being petulant these days. Some of them will be bad apples, but it's down to the manager to fix that, Jose hasn't done that.
Let's say Bale is one of the bad apples in the bunch, Jose brought him to the club on astronomical wages, he surely takes fault for that?
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It depends on what the manager tries to do to solve the problem of the player's attitude. If he tries everything and nothing works, then the fault is the player.
posted on 19/3/21
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posted 6 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
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comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 21 minutes ago
Mourinho is in charge of the players and it’s his job to motivate them. Obviously if they’re not performing then he’s lost the trust and respect of the players, and that’s all on Jose.
Jose out.
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Would love you to respond to this
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So when they stopped performing for Pockets, the totenham fan version of Jesus Christ, did he lose their trust and respect?
Here's a theory, maybe your players are just massive priiicks. Ever considered that.
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Yes they hit a brick wall after that CL final, Poch said it himself, that's probably as far as he could have taken them.
I don't think it's just down to the players, but they do take the blame. But Jose hasn't been able to rectify the attitude of those players, that falls on his head. The manager has to take responsibility for that.
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Maybe it's not possible. When their own captain is fuming like that about their attitudes, maybe the players just are beyond helping.
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Some of them probably are, I've highlighted Bale before as being petulant these days. Some of them will be bad apples, but it's down to the manager to fix that, Jose hasn't done that.
Let's say Bale is one of the bad apples in the bunch, Jose brought him to the club on astronomical wages, he surely takes fault for that?
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It depends on what the manager tries to do to solve the problem of the player's attitude. If he tries everything and nothing works, then the fault is the player.
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If he tries and nothing works, it's the fault of the manager's because he cannot rectify the issue. If he doesn't know how to do it, that's his fault.
He's been around long enough and has managed many top players, some with good attitudes, some with bad. If he can't sort it out now at Spurs, then unfortunately I think Jose is at fault.
posted on 19/3/21
Maybe Mourinho, having managed some of the best players in the world in the past, thinks that if a player doesn't respond to his methods then they probably aren't worth his time. If what was good enough for Frank Lampard isn't good enough for Dele Alli, then why should Mourinho bother with Dele Alli. He's not worth the effort.
posted on 19/3/21
Football moves on, Lampard and Alli are a generation apart. Maybe what worked for Lampard 15 years ago doesn't work no more? Time has moved on, football has changed since then.
If they aren't worth his time, he needs to get rid. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors for Alli, he won't be short of options, just get rid of him, why is he keeping hold of him?
I have said Mourinho may stay and will need to get a group of players that will play under him. But there's no doubt that some of those players there right now don't play for him, evidenced by last night's result. That isn't an example of good management.
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 10 minutes ago
Maybe Mourinho, having managed some of the best players in the world in the past, thinks that if a player doesn't respond to his methods then they probably aren't worth his time. If what was good enough for Frank Lampard isn't good enough for Dele Alli, then why should Mourinho bother with Dele Alli. He's not worth the effort.
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posted on 19/3/21
It depends on what the manager tries to do to solve the problem of the player's attitude. If he tries everything and nothing works, then the fault is the player.
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Weak excuse,that's literally his job to adjust their attitudes and if he cannot or they refuse, he should get rid or not play them, just like he treated Ali. There's more than 1 way to adjust attitudes and his methods doesn't seem to be working at the mo.
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 10 minutes ago
Maybe Mourinho, having managed some of the best players in the world in the past, thinks that if a player doesn't respond to his methods then they probably aren't worth his time. If what was good enough for Frank Lampard isn't good enough for Dele Alli, then why should Mourinho bother with Dele Alli. He's not worth the effort.
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By this logic the players should be professional and listen to the manager. But they don't
posted on 19/3/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 minutes ago
Football moves on, Lampard and Alli are a generation apart. Maybe what worked for Lampard 15 years ago doesn't work no more? Time has moved on, football has changed since then.
If they aren't worth his time, he needs to get rid. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors for Alli, he won't be short of options, just get rid of him, why is he keeping hold of him?
I have said Mourinho may stay and will need to get a group of players that will play under him. But there's no doubt that some of those players there right now don't play for him, evidenced by last night's result. That isn't an example of good management.
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I'm sure he'd love to get rid of Alli.
But I agree, he needs to build his own squad. This isn't a Mourinho team and all of the best Mourinho teams have had at least 5-6 Mourinho signings as first team regulars. I don't understand why people demand some managers be given time yet less than two year since Mourinho took over and some want him fried.
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 10 minutes ago
Maybe Mourinho, having managed some of the best players in the world in the past, thinks that if a player doesn't respond to his methods then they probably aren't worth his time. If what was good enough for Frank Lampard isn't good enough for Dele Alli, then why should Mourinho bother with Dele Alli. He's not worth the effort.
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By this logic the players should be professional and listen to the manager. But they don't
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Well no, you literally asked why should he bother.
The answer is his £15,000,000 per annum salary.
It's pretty clear Jose's cant be bothered attitude that you've just highlighted has been passed onto the players.
posted on 19/3/21
Perhaps the players attitudes towards playing for a manager are somewhat influenced by the managers attitude to the players themselves,the club he works for and the day to day interactions or lack of them.
There is a history of Mourinho leaving clubs because of the toxic atmosphere he has been the cause of that Wahl seems to refuse to believe.
Why is that Wahl?
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 minutes ago
Football moves on, Lampard and Alli are a generation apart. Maybe what worked for Lampard 15 years ago doesn't work no more? Time has moved on, football has changed since then.
If they aren't worth his time, he needs to get rid. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors for Alli, he won't be short of options, just get rid of him, why is he keeping hold of him?
I have said Mourinho may stay and will need to get a group of players that will play under him. But there's no doubt that some of those players there right now don't play for him, evidenced by last night's result. That isn't an example of good management.
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I'm sure he'd love to get rid of Alli.
But I agree, he needs to build his own squad. This isn't a Mourinho team and all of the best Mourinho teams have had at least 5-6 Mourinho signings as first team regulars. I don't understand why people demand some managers be given time yet less than two year since Mourinho took over and some want him fried.
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You also have to balance that with what's happening right now. What happens if Spurs can't afford to give Mourinho the 5/6 signings he would want?
He wanted the Inter Milan CB in the summer, he ended up with Joe Rodon instead. I don't think Spurs will be as happy to go and spend like United and Chelsea did for him, this could be 3/4 seasons yet whereas that wasn't the case at United or Chelsea.
I think Mourinho could do it, but I also think looking at the situation now, it's going to take too much time and too many years of mediocrity until Spurs get to that point and he may even leave himself before that happens. It's only going one way for Spurs at the moment.
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 20 minutes ago
Perhaps the players attitudes towards playing for a manager are somewhat influenced by the managers attitude to the players themselves,the club he works for and the day to day interactions or lack of them.
There is a history of Mourinho leaving clubs because of the toxic atmosphere he has been the cause of that Wahl seems to refuse to believe.
Why is that Wahl?
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love...
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Wahl<:> (U22596)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 minutes ago
Football moves on, Lampard and Alli are a generation apart. Maybe what worked for Lampard 15 years ago doesn't work no more? Time has moved on, football has changed since then.
If they aren't worth his time, he needs to get rid. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors for Alli, he won't be short of options, just get rid of him, why is he keeping hold of him?
I have said Mourinho may stay and will need to get a group of players that will play under him. But there's no doubt that some of those players there right now don't play for him, evidenced by last night's result. That isn't an example of good management.
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I'm sure he'd love to get rid of Alli.
But I agree, he needs to build his own squad. This isn't a Mourinho team and all of the best Mourinho teams have had at least 5-6 Mourinho signings as first team regulars. I don't understand why people demand some managers be given time yet less than two year since Mourinho took over and some want him fried.
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Bro, this is Spurs and tightwad levy, not Man City. - he's not gonna be given the money to buy the best players in the market if the ones he has aren't good enough for him - why do you think he could only sign the wrong Fernandes?
But I agree..jose needs to be given time at Spurs. Give him 20 years
posted on 19/3/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
You know hindsight is 20/20 isnt it but with Lloris clearly being able to do as the manager asks Jose probably should have to him not to let any goals in and then they be in the next round.
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Maybe Lloris should take over as manager?
posted on 19/3/21
The is a good point. I mean Levy told Jose to win and because he's got such a fvuuuuuurrrrrking terrible level of professionalism he didn't do it.
posted on 19/3/21
You're missing the point on purpose to be a nob. Mourinho told the players that they had a job to do to finish the tie and Lloris has said that this message was clear. But the attitude of the players show they didn't take the message seriously and that was why they lost.
It could not be more clear. Lloris spelled it out in his interview, Mourinho spelled it out in his interview, it was there all over the perfomances of those tottenham players. But people want to view everything black and white (apart from averagefan to be fair, he did look at it from both ways) and just put everything on Mourinho.
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