It would still be the case because he is punching with that squad

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Is he? The Leicester squad is pretty good.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
If there was a poll of all premier league fans about who is the better manager Brendan or Ole, and who has done a better job at their respective clubs.

Brendan would win the poll, comfortably.

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Quite probably. But if Leicester have another meltdown and miss CL football again then that might not be the case.
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It's looking highly unlikely of that happening again..

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 seconds ago
It actually just hit me..... after 8 years of throwing money away, Fred is genuinely a first team player at Manchester United, haha.
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No he isn’t. But for once you are right that we have been throwing money around for the last eight years.

This is why the changes in the structure of the club have been made. Way too late but welcome anyway.

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Fred is not a first team player?? Please enlighten me what he is then the all knowing, VC?
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A squad player. If you think he is first team level you are mental.

My guess is you are deliberately ignoring why he is making so many first team appearances in the first place.

I do not think there is one United fan that thinks he is a genuine starter for United. Injuries and not replacing Matic have been why we have seen so much of Fred.

This will hopefully be addressed in the summer.
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I did not say he is first team level. I said he is a first team player you world class imbecile

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 15 seconds ago
It would still be the case because he is punching with that squad

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Is he? The Leicester squad is pretty good.
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Better than the one they won the league with IMO.

This sort of reminds me of how people perceived Spurs squad when they were changing from being regular old crap Spurs, to starting to challenge for top 4. I think it takes a while for people to start acknowledging the strengths of the team because they basically assume their level is lower than they are because of the recent history.

United live in a world of magical thinking and fairytale land, where the magic of "the united way" will solve all our problems at some mythical point in the future.

I live in munich and the attitude of the Bayern fans is so totally different.

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Bayern are still doing it the “Bayern way” though.

comment by Nilpferd (U22599)
posted 4 minutes ago
Op is 100% bang on. United live in a world of magical thinking and fairytale land, where the magic of "the united way" will solve all our problems at some mythical point in the future.

I live in munich and the attitude of the Bayern fans is so totally different. They demand that you earn their support and it takes five good seasons to make up for one bad one. None of this "give them time" nonsense. Kovac won the double and guess what? Fired as soon as they had one or two bad results. Was is the right decision? yes, immediately win the treble with a new manager.

this is how real clubs work. we are a joke.
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Don’t they just buy up all their main rivals best players?

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nilpferd (U22599)
posted 1 second ago
Op is 100% bang on. United live in a world of magical thinking and fairytale land, where the magic of "the united way" will solve all our problems at some mythical point in the future.

I live in munich and the attitude of the Bayern fans is so totally different. They demand that you earn their support and it takes five good seasons to make up for one bad one. None of this "give them time" nonsense. Kovac won the double and guess what? Fired as soon as they had one or two bad results. Was is the right decision? yes, immediately win the treble with a new manager.

this is how real clubs work. we are a joke.
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Slightly easier to be that arrogant in a glorified SPL
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is getting to the cl semis pretty much every year easy?

I do not think there is one United fan that thinks he is a genuine starter for United. Injuries and not replacing Matic have been why we have seen so much of Fred.
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So he is a first team player?? Yes or no you waffler.

Fred is genuinely a first team player at Manchester United, haha.
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What is not accurate about this statement, VC?

So he is a first team player?? Yes or no you waffler.
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Why are you arguing with someone who is saying a player who is going to have 60 plus premier league starts over 2 seasons, isn't a first 11 player.

He isn't a first 11 player because we might sign a better player in the future.... haha

comment by Nilpferd (U22599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nilpferd (U22599)
posted 1 second ago
Op is 100% bang on. United live in a world of magical thinking and fairytale land, where the magic of "the united way" will solve all our problems at some mythical point in the future.

I live in munich and the attitude of the Bayern fans is so totally different. They demand that you earn their support and it takes five good seasons to make up for one bad one. None of this "give them time" nonsense. Kovac won the double and guess what? Fired as soon as they had one or two bad results. Was is the right decision? yes, immediately win the treble with a new manager.

this is how real clubs work. we are a joke.
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Slightly easier to be that arrogant in a glorified SPL
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is getting to the cl semis pretty much every year easy?
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it sure as hell makes it easier, being in a league where you can buy the best players of any competitor and then generally rotate players at the business end of competitions, with the league safely wrapped up.

Is he? The Leicester squad is pretty good.
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Better than the one they won the league with IMO

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Indeed.

comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 3 minutes ago
So he is a first team player?? Yes or no you waffler.
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Why are you arguing with someone who is saying a player who is going to have 60 plus premier league starts over 2 seasons, isn't a first 11 player.

He isn't a first 11 player because we might sign a better player in the future.... haha
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I always knew this guy is special, but I genuinely did not know for someone that talks utter rubbish consistently he is this stupid.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 50 seconds ago
United live in a world of magical thinking and fairytale land, where the magic of "the united way" will solve all our problems at some mythical point in the future.

I live in munich and the attitude of the Bayern fans is so totally different.

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Bayern are still doing it the “Bayern way” though.
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well then let us copy the bayern way, right? instead of doing what is not working.

yes, buy big every year, hire and fire, sell players if they have a slight dip and only promote youth if they are already top class. expect the best at all times. change the tactics every year to fit modern developments.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
I do not think there is one United fan that thinks he is a genuine starter for United. Injuries and not replacing Matic have been why we have seen so much of Fred.
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So he is a first team player?? Yes or no you waffler.

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He is starting for the first team. He shouldn’t be. He is a squad player who should be only playing from time to time. Injuries and not replacing Matic have made that so.

Hope this clears it up for you. You seem to be having trouble understanding this.

it sure as hell makes it easier, being in a league where you can buy the best players of any competitor and then generally rotate players at the business end of competitions, with the league safely wrapped up.
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That's not totally true and you know it.

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nilpferd (U22599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nilpferd (U22599)
posted 1 second ago
Op is 100% bang on. United live in a world of magical thinking and fairytale land, where the magic of "the united way" will solve all our problems at some mythical point in the future.

I live in munich and the attitude of the Bayern fans is so totally different. They demand that you earn their support and it takes five good seasons to make up for one bad one. None of this "give them time" nonsense. Kovac won the double and guess what? Fired as soon as they had one or two bad results. Was is the right decision? yes, immediately win the treble with a new manager.

this is how real clubs work. we are a joke.
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Slightly easier to be that arrogant in a glorified SPL
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is getting to the cl semis pretty much every year easy?
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it sure as hell makes it easier, being in a league where you can buy the best players of any competitor and then generally rotate players at the business end of competitions, with the league safely wrapped up.
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but is it easier than getting in to champions league every season in the english league? i don't think so. because we don't even manage to do that.

but hey, at least we promoted a load of youth right? that is what counts. and sticking with the manager.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 minutes ago
Fred is genuinely a first team player at Manchester United, haha.
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What is not accurate about this statement, VC?
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The words.

comment by Nilpferd (U22599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 50 seconds ago
United live in a world of magical thinking and fairytale land, where the magic of "the united way" will solve all our problems at some mythical point in the future.

I live in munich and the attitude of the Bayern fans is so totally different.

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Bayern are still doing it the “Bayern way” though.
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well then let us copy the bayern way, right? instead of doing what is not working.

yes, buy big every year, hire and fire, sell players if they have a slight dip and only promote youth if they are already top class. expect the best at all times. change the tactics every year to fit modern developments.




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You're deluded lad, in England there are 4 or 5 clubs competing for big name players. In Germany Bayern mop up all of them, the rest have to rely on shrewd signings.

well then let us copy the bayern way, right? instead of doing what is not working.

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Part of how we a run is the Bayern way. Sadly there are other factors that mean it can’t happen that way.

Our ownership and being able to buy up most of the talent in the league.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 7 minutes ago
Fred is genuinely a first team player at Manchester United, haha.
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What is not accurate about this statement, VC?
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The words.
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Over the last 2 seasons, Fred has been a Manchester United first team player. Under Ole, Fred is a first team player.

comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nilpferd (U22599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 50 seconds ago
United live in a world of magical thinking and fairytale land, where the magic of "the united way" will solve all our problems at some mythical point in the future.

I live in munich and the attitude of the Bayern fans is so totally different.

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Bayern are still doing it the “Bayern way” though.
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well then let us copy the bayern way, right? instead of doing what is not working.

yes, buy big every year, hire and fire, sell players if they have a slight dip and only promote youth if they are already top class. expect the best at all times. change the tactics every year to fit modern developments.




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You're deluded lad, in England there are 4 or 5 clubs competing for big name players. In Germany Bayern mop up all of them, the rest have to rely on shrewd signings.
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why can't we buy the players from the german league that bayern buy? we have more money and german players would all love to play in the pl.

I will tell you what: an obsession with english players and especially an unfounded trust in our own academy.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes Brendan Rogers has done a better job than Ole if you look at spend on squads, spend on players etc.


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No he has not. But feel free to go and pretend you support Leicester. Your whining will not be missed on here.

The Leicester fans won’t like you though.
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The Leicester fans definitely wouldn't swap Brendan for Ole lol
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No one said they would. I doubt very few United fans would swap Ole for Rogers either.
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I can bet you a whole lot of fans would. Those who won't are thick like you

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 seconds ago
It actually just hit me..... after 8 years of throwing money away, Fred is genuinely a first team player at Manchester United, haha.
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No he isn’t. But for once you are right that we have been throwing money around for the last eight years.

This is why the changes in the structure of the club have been made. Way too late but welcome anyway.

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Yeah genius. Like promoting Darren Fletcher. You are the biggest loud mouthed fool on this site.

Over the last 2 seasons, Fred has been a Manchester United first team player. Under Ole, Fred is a first team player.

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He wouldn’t be if Pogba hadn’t have missed most of last season and a fair bit of this one and if we had replaced Matic in the last summer window.

Sadly circumstances have seen a squad player making more first team appearances than they should do.

If you have been paying attention the current champions have been in the same boat.

It happens.