Remember in social media company's eyes, bad=good. Bad gets shared more, bad gets more attention. A lot of the attention may be people highlighting the bad, but it wouldn't exist without the bad in the first place.
What is better than bad? More bad. Or badder. So social media encourage that. Bad leads to outrage, leads to more bad, leading to more outrage, leading to more and more money for social media companies.
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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It's pointless saying "the UK is less racist than XYZ". Anyone who wants the best for the UK should want to stamp out racism that exists in the UK. If I see dog faeces on the pavement, I want it gone. And none of us take offence at the idea of removing it because there's more dog faeces on the pavement in France (which there is, in my experience!), and anyone who highlights it is just talking our great country down.
By the way, the Premier League has an international following and it's not a given that racist abuse of PL players is coming from the UK. To me that's irrelevant. If the abuse is happening in the football conversations and the media platforms we participate in, then decent human beings wherever they are should respond aggressively.
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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Ok, lets pat ourselves for not being the most racists country.
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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Ok, lets pat ourselves for not being the most racists country.
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It's such a bollox stance.
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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Ok, lets pat ourselves for not being the most racists country.
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Not the most racist
comment by The Post Nearly Man 2.25 (U1270)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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Ok, lets pat ourselves for not being the most racists country.
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Not the most racist
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"For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation."
Ironically this is racist
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
It's as if racially abusing a player is "in fashion" at the moment. I know we hear much more about racist abuse now than ever before, but I feel like it has got worse over the last 12 months, where every game where a person in an ethnic minority category does something wrong gets racially abused.
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It hasn’t gotten worse. In the past you didn’t have teams of temps at papers tasked with scouring social media for the odd post that can be turned into clickbait.
Makes it seem far more common than it actually is, because now the 1/5,000,000 comments directed at footballers on Twitter that can be construed as racist can be converted into advertising revenue.
There are isolated incidents of racism in UK, North America which are definitely condemnable. Whereas a country like China/Japan are deeply rooted in racism, skin color etc. Read it up.
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 1 minute ago
There are isolated incidents of racism in UK, North America which are definitely condemnable. Whereas a country like China/Japan are deeply rooted in racism, skin color etc. Read it up.
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All of which is irrelevant to this discussion. We can condemn racist turds who reside among us without needing to qualify that. If we compare favourably to other places, it's thanks to people who are willing to be self-critical about their country and fight to make it better. The anti-racist campaigns of the 1980s that drove out filthy abuse from stadiums were also resisted by people who saw it as talking Britain down.
Although it really didn't help matters when Solskjaer comes out with totally unhelpful comments about "starving" Son.
Frankly a PL manager should know better, and should be sanctioned and fined by the FA.
Stuff like that, especially from the manager of a team that cheats to get advantages all the time, just inflames the situation even more.
should be sanctioned and fined by the FA.
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Illegal anecdote section 1b or sommat?
Those comments by ole were a bit stupid and hypocritical, but you can see why he said it, son was a disgrace
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 1 minute ago
Although it really didn't help matters when Solskjaer comes out with totally unhelpful comments about "starving" Son.
Frankly a PL manager should know better, and should be sanctioned and fined by the FA.
Stuff like that, especially from the manager of a team that cheats to get advantages all the time, just inflames the situation even more.
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Whether you think Solskjaer's criticism was justified or incorrect (or correct but hypocritical), he didn't racially abuse Son and isn't responsible for the pondlife who did.
If you're angry with the manager of the team that comfortably beat you this morning, rather than fully focusing your fury at the individuals who have racially abused one of your players, I question your priorities.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Danny Mullen (U1734)
posted 21 minutes ago
It is every game now. And you can't stop it. Unless you take players off social media, which is a wise idea anyway. Why would it be a good idea having the general public being able to contact a famous footballer anonymously, being able to say whatever they want with no concequences? There needs to be recognition that social media is just bad for people, especially famous people.
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Why punish the players and not the offenders?
It is a simple solution, social media companies should demand you sign up with identification (even if you use a fake name or persona on the site).
Once you do that, this will stop.
It will also stop bots.
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this is true, it would be simple to fix but it wont happen. racists would be against it. like trying to implement gun laws in the states. impossible.
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 1 minute ago
Although it really didn't help matters when Solskjaer comes out with totally unhelpful comments about "starving" Son.
Frankly a PL manager should know better, and should be sanctioned and fined by the FA.
Stuff like that, especially from the manager of a team that cheats to get advantages all the time, just inflames the situation even more.
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The comment above is what it looks like when your brain has been turned to mush by mourinho. Reaching for conclusions and narratives that do not even make any sense
Comment deleted by Article Creator
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 0 seconds ago
Look at the way Martial, Rashford, Penandes, Pogba, Salahdive, Mane, Firmino etc regularly go down under miniscule contact, and yet there is not a word said by the agenda driven media. In fact, these players above have been regularly rewarded for their theatrics with penalty kicks, and yet in the media`s eyes they have done nothing wrong.
It absolutely depends which club you play for, whether your actions will be repeatedly scrutinized, or swiftly and conveniently swept under the carpet and ignored.
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don't ruin this article with your petty grievances
if you want to moan about the media not favouring spurs go start another article and stop trying to leech off an article showing solidarity with Son
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 54 seconds ago
Look at the way Martial, Rashford, Penandes, Pogba, Salahdive, Mane, Firmino etc regularly go down under miniscule contact, and yet there is not a word said by the agenda driven media. In fact, these players above have been regularly rewarded for their theatrics with penalty kicks, and yet in the media`s eyes they have done nothing wrong.
It absolutely depends which club you play for, whether your actions will be repeatedly scrutinized, or swiftly and conveniently swept under the carpet and ignored.
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This discussion is about condemning racist abuse that was directed against Son Heung-min. If you think the perceived media bias against Spurs is a more important issue today, feel free to write about that elsewhere.
Feel free also to join us in expressing solidarity with Son on this thread.
Are you still not understanding that racism is good for all forms of media? You would have had journalists sitting there last night hoping someone would racially abuse Son so they could get a story. Tomorrow night if Sterling has a bad game, they'll be sitting in anticipation of the abuse, HOPING IT HAPPENS, so they can get a highly clickable story.
Do you understand? Bad stuff makes better news, so media companies need more bad stuff to happen. So they encourage it. Simples.
comment by Danny Mullen (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are you still not understanding that racism is good for all forms of media? You would have had journalists sitting there last night hoping someone would racially abuse Son so they could get a story. Tomorrow night if Sterling has a bad game, they'll be sitting in anticipation of the abuse, HOPING IT HAPPENS, so they can get a highly clickable story.
Do you understand? Bad stuff makes better news, so media companies need more bad stuff to happen. So they encourage it. Simples.
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I see your point and almost agree
but there is a difference between reporting something and encouraging it. Should the media not report rape/murders because some sados might be inspired to replicate the crimes?
Yes the media probably benefits from bad news but acknowleging something is one of the first step to fixing it
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 42 minutes ago
There are isolated incidents of racism in UK, North America which are definitely condemnable. Whereas a country like China/Japan are deeply rooted in racism, skin color etc. Read it up.
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You do not know much about the UK or US, do you?
Let us not forget India too.
The U.K. was built on rainbows and marshmallows and definitely not imperialism and slave Labour
It absolutely depends which club you play for, whether your actions will be repeatedly scrutinized, or swiftly and conveniently swept under the carpet and ignored.
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Tbf Billy us an excellent example of this.
comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 4 minutes ago
The U.K. was built on rainbows and marshmallows and definitely not imperialism and slave Labour
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We exported these rainbows and marshmallows all over the world and depopulated continents, committing continental style genocide in the Americas, Africa, Asia and Australia.
When you say this, some people get upset.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 4 minutes ago
The U.K. was built on rainbows and marshmallows and definitely not imperialism and slave Labour
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We exported these rainbows and marshmallows all over the world and depopulated continents, committing continental style genocide in the Americas, Africa, Asia and Australia.
When you say this, some people get upset.
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I don’t understand why people get upset by it. The empire was what it was. We’ve certainly benefited from the long term effects of it.
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posted on 12/4/21
Remember in social media company's eyes, bad=good. Bad gets shared more, bad gets more attention. A lot of the attention may be people highlighting the bad, but it wouldn't exist without the bad in the first place.
What is better than bad? More bad. Or badder. So social media encourage that. Bad leads to outrage, leads to more bad, leading to more outrage, leading to more and more money for social media companies.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's pointless saying "the UK is less racist than XYZ". Anyone who wants the best for the UK should want to stamp out racism that exists in the UK. If I see dog faeces on the pavement, I want it gone. And none of us take offence at the idea of removing it because there's more dog faeces on the pavement in France (which there is, in my experience!), and anyone who highlights it is just talking our great country down.
By the way, the Premier League has an international following and it's not a given that racist abuse of PL players is coming from the UK. To me that's irrelevant. If the abuse is happening in the football conversations and the media platforms we participate in, then decent human beings wherever they are should respond aggressively.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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Ok, lets pat ourselves for not being the most racists country.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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Ok, lets pat ourselves for not being the most racists country.
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It's such a bollox stance.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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Ok, lets pat ourselves for not being the most racists country.
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Not the most racist
posted on 12/4/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man 2.25 (U1270)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am not a Brit but to say UK is racist is generalizing. In fact UK is one of the best countries when it comes to diversity and inclusion. There are far more racist countries in the world. Just because those nations are not developed people push their racism under the carpet. For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation.
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Ok, lets pat ourselves for not being the most racists country.
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Not the most racist
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"For ex Pakistan, South American countries, Japan, China are infinitely more racist than any European or North American nation."
Ironically this is racist
posted on 12/4/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
It's as if racially abusing a player is "in fashion" at the moment. I know we hear much more about racist abuse now than ever before, but I feel like it has got worse over the last 12 months, where every game where a person in an ethnic minority category does something wrong gets racially abused.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It hasn’t gotten worse. In the past you didn’t have teams of temps at papers tasked with scouring social media for the odd post that can be turned into clickbait.
Makes it seem far more common than it actually is, because now the 1/5,000,000 comments directed at footballers on Twitter that can be construed as racist can be converted into advertising revenue.
posted on 12/4/21
There are isolated incidents of racism in UK, North America which are definitely condemnable. Whereas a country like China/Japan are deeply rooted in racism, skin color etc. Read it up.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 1 minute ago
There are isolated incidents of racism in UK, North America which are definitely condemnable. Whereas a country like China/Japan are deeply rooted in racism, skin color etc. Read it up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All of which is irrelevant to this discussion. We can condemn racist turds who reside among us without needing to qualify that. If we compare favourably to other places, it's thanks to people who are willing to be self-critical about their country and fight to make it better. The anti-racist campaigns of the 1980s that drove out filthy abuse from stadiums were also resisted by people who saw it as talking Britain down.
posted on 12/4/21
Although it really didn't help matters when Solskjaer comes out with totally unhelpful comments about "starving" Son.
Frankly a PL manager should know better, and should be sanctioned and fined by the FA.
Stuff like that, especially from the manager of a team that cheats to get advantages all the time, just inflames the situation even more.
posted on 12/4/21
should be sanctioned and fined by the FA.
=========
Illegal anecdote section 1b or sommat?
posted on 12/4/21
Those comments by ole were a bit stupid and hypocritical, but you can see why he said it, son was a disgrace
posted on 12/4/21
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 1 minute ago
Although it really didn't help matters when Solskjaer comes out with totally unhelpful comments about "starving" Son.
Frankly a PL manager should know better, and should be sanctioned and fined by the FA.
Stuff like that, especially from the manager of a team that cheats to get advantages all the time, just inflames the situation even more.
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Whether you think Solskjaer's criticism was justified or incorrect (or correct but hypocritical), he didn't racially abuse Son and isn't responsible for the pondlife who did.
If you're angry with the manager of the team that comfortably beat you this morning, rather than fully focusing your fury at the individuals who have racially abused one of your players, I question your priorities.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Danny Mullen (U1734)
posted 21 minutes ago
It is every game now. And you can't stop it. Unless you take players off social media, which is a wise idea anyway. Why would it be a good idea having the general public being able to contact a famous footballer anonymously, being able to say whatever they want with no concequences? There needs to be recognition that social media is just bad for people, especially famous people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why punish the players and not the offenders?
It is a simple solution, social media companies should demand you sign up with identification (even if you use a fake name or persona on the site).
Once you do that, this will stop.
It will also stop bots.
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this is true, it would be simple to fix but it wont happen. racists would be against it. like trying to implement gun laws in the states. impossible.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 1 minute ago
Although it really didn't help matters when Solskjaer comes out with totally unhelpful comments about "starving" Son.
Frankly a PL manager should know better, and should be sanctioned and fined by the FA.
Stuff like that, especially from the manager of a team that cheats to get advantages all the time, just inflames the situation even more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The comment above is what it looks like when your brain has been turned to mush by mourinho. Reaching for conclusions and narratives that do not even make any sense
posted on 12/4/21
Comment deleted by Article Creator
posted on 12/4/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 0 seconds ago
Look at the way Martial, Rashford, Penandes, Pogba, Salahdive, Mane, Firmino etc regularly go down under miniscule contact, and yet there is not a word said by the agenda driven media. In fact, these players above have been regularly rewarded for their theatrics with penalty kicks, and yet in the media`s eyes they have done nothing wrong.
It absolutely depends which club you play for, whether your actions will be repeatedly scrutinized, or swiftly and conveniently swept under the carpet and ignored.
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don't ruin this article with your petty grievances
if you want to moan about the media not favouring spurs go start another article and stop trying to leech off an article showing solidarity with Son
posted on 12/4/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 54 seconds ago
Look at the way Martial, Rashford, Penandes, Pogba, Salahdive, Mane, Firmino etc regularly go down under miniscule contact, and yet there is not a word said by the agenda driven media. In fact, these players above have been regularly rewarded for their theatrics with penalty kicks, and yet in the media`s eyes they have done nothing wrong.
It absolutely depends which club you play for, whether your actions will be repeatedly scrutinized, or swiftly and conveniently swept under the carpet and ignored.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This discussion is about condemning racist abuse that was directed against Son Heung-min. If you think the perceived media bias against Spurs is a more important issue today, feel free to write about that elsewhere.
Feel free also to join us in expressing solidarity with Son on this thread.
posted on 12/4/21
Are you still not understanding that racism is good for all forms of media? You would have had journalists sitting there last night hoping someone would racially abuse Son so they could get a story. Tomorrow night if Sterling has a bad game, they'll be sitting in anticipation of the abuse, HOPING IT HAPPENS, so they can get a highly clickable story.
Do you understand? Bad stuff makes better news, so media companies need more bad stuff to happen. So they encourage it. Simples.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Danny Mullen (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
Are you still not understanding that racism is good for all forms of media? You would have had journalists sitting there last night hoping someone would racially abuse Son so they could get a story. Tomorrow night if Sterling has a bad game, they'll be sitting in anticipation of the abuse, HOPING IT HAPPENS, so they can get a highly clickable story.
Do you understand? Bad stuff makes better news, so media companies need more bad stuff to happen. So they encourage it. Simples.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I see your point and almost agree
but there is a difference between reporting something and encouraging it. Should the media not report rape/murders because some sados might be inspired to replicate the crimes?
Yes the media probably benefits from bad news but acknowleging something is one of the first step to fixing it
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Wayne and Robin aka Red Indian (U21328)
posted 42 minutes ago
There are isolated incidents of racism in UK, North America which are definitely condemnable. Whereas a country like China/Japan are deeply rooted in racism, skin color etc. Read it up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You do not know much about the UK or US, do you?
Let us not forget India too.
posted on 12/4/21
The U.K. was built on rainbows and marshmallows and definitely not imperialism and slave Labour
posted on 12/4/21
It absolutely depends which club you play for, whether your actions will be repeatedly scrutinized, or swiftly and conveniently swept under the carpet and ignored.
===========
Tbf Billy us an excellent example of this.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 4 minutes ago
The U.K. was built on rainbows and marshmallows and definitely not imperialism and slave Labour
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We exported these rainbows and marshmallows all over the world and depopulated continents, committing continental style genocide in the Americas, Africa, Asia and Australia.
When you say this, some people get upset.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 4 minutes ago
The U.K. was built on rainbows and marshmallows and definitely not imperialism and slave Labour
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We exported these rainbows and marshmallows all over the world and depopulated continents, committing continental style genocide in the Americas, Africa, Asia and Australia.
When you say this, some people get upset.
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I don’t understand why people get upset by it. The empire was what it was. We’ve certainly benefited from the long term effects of it.
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