Rodgers is on a deal until 2025. Leicester will make us pay big.
Ten Hag until 2022. This makes him Levy's preferred choice
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don’t want Ten Haag, he will be another manager sacked after a couple of seasons.
Give me Rodgers, he’s done a great job at Leicester but I reckon he would do an even better job with our players and financial backing.
In my opinion we have much better squad than Leicester, I’d put the Leicester squad on par with Everton. But Leicester are winning and playing well under Rodgers, it’s enough proof for me to want him as our manager.
He’s never gonna turn us down to stay at Leicester, yeah Leicester are doing well this season but us, Liverpool and Chelsea are having poor seasons which has helped their cause. Plus we’re a much bigger club.
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It's possible. He tends to see the bigger picture. He was top of the league at Celtic having one two trebles in a row, regularly in the CL and swapped it for what was then a mid-table scrap with Leicester.
It's possible he'll look at it and think Spurs are lower than Leicester, but they shouldn't be. He can do more with us longer term than them.
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
Got us nowhere?
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We are measuring in trophies.
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posted 42 seconds ago
Rodgers is on a deal until 2025. Leicester will make us pay big.
Ten Hag until 2022. This makes him Levy's preferred choice
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That's the matter closed then. There's no way Levy will pay out for Rodgers. Shame. I feel like if we got him on board, he'd be in it for the long haul as he's tried it at Liverpool. I think he'd end up staying as long as we'd want him. We need someone as committed as Poch was. In fairness, that was never going to be Nagelsmann anyway.
So long as Levy is the one making the decision then I'm really worried.
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
Got us nowhere?
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We are measuring in trophies.
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So Ramos got us somewhere but Poch got us nowhere?
The managers with the better CVs that we've employed in recent times were the ones we couldn't wait to get rid of.
We need to not measure managers in terms of trophies, Levy is ultimately the man who is going to help the manager get a trophy. He could have helped get Poch and Redknapp trophies but he sold them short.
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
Potter is contracted to Brighton until 2025. I doubt he is on much so compo for him would be relatively cheap.
But I am I'm all aboard the Ten Haag train. Lets go dutch again. It worked well the first time round with Jol and Ten Haag has a much better CV than Big Martin did before he arrived.
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Ok, so here how I understand this:
There is a manager that Spurs have approached and because this manager is still employed, Spurs are not divulging anything and are waiting for an optimum moment to tie up the paper works.
I think Redknapp said this on sky too. But no one has said who that is?
Managers still in employment that Spurs, and more importantly Levy, would want are?
Bodgers is one. But he has denied the rumours, and has his side in CL so why would he go to a club that is on the decline like Spurs?
Ten Hag. In charge of Ajax
Anyone else?
Poch? Very unlikely. Poch will want to achieve far better things with PSG before he even consideres mid table Spurs.
Looks like Ten Hag. He is 51 years old and led his team to that famous semi-final against Poch's Spurs.
Won a local cup and the Eredevesie which is the equivalent of Sunday league here.
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So who's your pick then...
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 12 minutes ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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This
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
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Completely agree. His gamble on Tariq Lamptey is a good sign. There's some criticism that he won't be a big enough name to lure players to the club but Poch wasn't either until he developed his reputation with us. We won't need, or won't be able to afford, the kind of players that might turn their noses up at him anyway. I think he might be the perfect manager for us in the current climate.
I'd be happy with him, Rodgers or, at a stretch, Ten Hag.
comment by LukaBrasi #RentFree Patience - We never forget. (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Potter is contracted to Brighton until 2025. I doubt he is on much so compo for him would be relatively cheap.
But I am I'm all aboard the Ten Haag train. Lets go dutch again. It worked well the first time round with Jol and Ten Haag has a much better CV than Big Martin did before he arrived.
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Going Dutch hasn't served us so well recently - Sanchez, Janssen, Bergwijn.
I know it's not the same thing but still.
Ten Hag or Potter it is then.
comment by Troy'sTanguyTanganga (U6468)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ten Hag or Potter it is then.
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Yup. Both would mean the start of a new project, but I don't think there's much choice in that respect - not sure there's any managers around who would both improve Spurs immediately, but also be interested in joining Spurs at the minute.
I really don't see Rodgers as a realistic option.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Ten Hag is clearly a capable manager but I think there's a lot of fans here desperate to convince themselves he's the right man. I'm still not sure. The system is what breeds success at Ajax, not the manager. Whichever team nurtured the talent we faced a couple of years back during their teenage years is where the credit is found. Ten Hag is just someone passing through during a rich time of club development. With a bit of luck, De Boer could have had similar talent at his disposal. I'm not saying that he's not a good manager but the players that came through and the triangular patterns of play that, let's face it, should have demolished us, are possibly more an Ajax thing than a Ten Hag thing.
The one thing I'm clinging to is that Bayern were also looking at him before they bagged JN so he must have something about him.
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F de Boer won the league but he played atrocious football and he did shte in Europe. Ten Hag is the best dutch manager in the last 20 years. He is tactically the best manager Ajax had in the last 30 since Van Gaal. His team dominated most opposition teams in Europe.
Ten Hag doesn't play the old school Ajax system of 433 were the wide players play as old fashioned wingers who put crosses in.
He plays more a 4231 which starts as 3151 in the build up phase. He is definitely not an Ajax type of manager who play static football. He is influenced by the German philosophy of high energy football with movement all over the pitch. His man management is very good and he never criticise players in public but always supports them even if they play shte.
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
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Completely agree. His gamble on Tariq Lamptey is a good sign. There's some criticism that he won't be a big enough name to lure players to the club but Poch wasn't either until he developed his reputation with us. We won't need, or won't be able to afford, the kind of players that might turn their noses up at him anyway. I think he might be the perfect manager for us in the current climate.
I'd be happy with him, Rodgers or, at a stretch, Ten Hag.
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We should follow Leicester's example, they haven't exactly been luring big names but their signings have done well for them. We also have the pull of the club, the stadium, the location, and more money (compared with Leicester). Not like we were going to attract the Halaands and Mbappes anytime soon anyway. If we can attract better players than Brighton then that's all that should matter.
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posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
Got us nowhere?
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We are measuring in trophies.
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So Ramos got us somewhere but Poch got us nowhere?
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That's more or less what the history books will say.
Sound like shiiite over simplified accounts of history
Yeah, that's a pretty abysmal take
comment by Phenom - 10Hag4boss (U20037)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/_thfcgeorge/status/1386765064481513473
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Carragher spot on with his anaylises there.
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sound like shiiite over simplified accounts of history
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The point being that the entertaining, attacking football of Jol, Redknapp and Poch did not win us anything and this points to an issue that goes beyond the quality of the team/squads as all had excellent players at their disposal.
The expectation was that Jose would add that missing element, that win at all costs, get over the line, single minded winning mentality. That is what Spurs have been lacking and without it we have won nothing....It's an ingredient that Jol Redknapp Poch were lacking up to that point in their careers . Jose offered this, at least in theory.
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posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
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Completely agree. His gamble on Tariq Lamptey is a good sign. There's some criticism that he won't be a big enough name to lure players to the club but Poch wasn't either until he developed his reputation with us. We won't need, or won't be able to afford, the kind of players that might turn their noses up at him anyway. I think he might be the perfect manager for us in the current climate.
I'd be happy with him, Rodgers or, at a stretch, Ten Hag.
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We should follow Leicester's example, they haven't exactly been luring big names but their signings have done well for them. We also have the pull of the club, the stadium, the location, and more money (compared with Leicester). Not like we were going to attract the Halaands and Mbappes anytime soon anyway. If we can attract better players than Brighton then that's all that should matter.
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You say follow Leicester's example but we haven't exactly been shopping for big names
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
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Completely agree. His gamble on Tariq Lamptey is a good sign. There's some criticism that he won't be a big enough name to lure players to the club but Poch wasn't either until he developed his reputation with us. We won't need, or won't be able to afford, the kind of players that might turn their noses up at him anyway. I think he might be the perfect manager for us in the current climate.
I'd be happy with him, Rodgers or, at a stretch, Ten Hag.
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We should follow Leicester's example, they haven't exactly been luring big names but their signings have done well for them. We also have the pull of the club, the stadium, the location, and more money (compared with Leicester). Not like we were going to attract the Halaands and Mbappes anytime soon anyway. If we can attract better players than Brighton then that's all that should matter.
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You say follow Leicester's example but we haven't exactly been shopping for big names
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I mean recruit better basically. Although I do think we actually had a decent transfer window in the summer, and don't have a bad squad. Just that Jose wasted its potential this season.
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posted on 27/4/21
Rodgers is on a deal until 2025. Leicester will make us pay big.
Ten Hag until 2022. This makes him Levy's preferred choice
posted on 27/4/21
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don’t want Ten Haag, he will be another manager sacked after a couple of seasons.
Give me Rodgers, he’s done a great job at Leicester but I reckon he would do an even better job with our players and financial backing.
In my opinion we have much better squad than Leicester, I’d put the Leicester squad on par with Everton. But Leicester are winning and playing well under Rodgers, it’s enough proof for me to want him as our manager.
He’s never gonna turn us down to stay at Leicester, yeah Leicester are doing well this season but us, Liverpool and Chelsea are having poor seasons which has helped their cause. Plus we’re a much bigger club.
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It's possible. He tends to see the bigger picture. He was top of the league at Celtic having one two trebles in a row, regularly in the CL and swapped it for what was then a mid-table scrap with Leicester.
It's possible he'll look at it and think Spurs are lower than Leicester, but they shouldn't be. He can do more with us longer term than them.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
Got us nowhere?
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We are measuring in trophies.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 42 seconds ago
Rodgers is on a deal until 2025. Leicester will make us pay big.
Ten Hag until 2022. This makes him Levy's preferred choice
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That's the matter closed then. There's no way Levy will pay out for Rodgers. Shame. I feel like if we got him on board, he'd be in it for the long haul as he's tried it at Liverpool. I think he'd end up staying as long as we'd want him. We need someone as committed as Poch was. In fairness, that was never going to be Nagelsmann anyway.
posted on 27/4/21
So long as Levy is the one making the decision then I'm really worried.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
Got us nowhere?
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We are measuring in trophies.
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So Ramos got us somewhere but Poch got us nowhere?
posted on 27/4/21
The managers with the better CVs that we've employed in recent times were the ones we couldn't wait to get rid of.
We need to not measure managers in terms of trophies, Levy is ultimately the man who is going to help the manager get a trophy. He could have helped get Poch and Redknapp trophies but he sold them short.
posted on 27/4/21
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
posted on 27/4/21
Potter is contracted to Brighton until 2025. I doubt he is on much so compo for him would be relatively cheap.
But I am I'm all aboard the Ten Haag train. Lets go dutch again. It worked well the first time round with Jol and Ten Haag has a much better CV than Big Martin did before he arrived.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Ok, so here how I understand this:
There is a manager that Spurs have approached and because this manager is still employed, Spurs are not divulging anything and are waiting for an optimum moment to tie up the paper works.
I think Redknapp said this on sky too. But no one has said who that is?
Managers still in employment that Spurs, and more importantly Levy, would want are?
Bodgers is one. But he has denied the rumours, and has his side in CL so why would he go to a club that is on the decline like Spurs?
Ten Hag. In charge of Ajax
Anyone else?
Poch? Very unlikely. Poch will want to achieve far better things with PSG before he even consideres mid table Spurs.
Looks like Ten Hag. He is 51 years old and led his team to that famous semi-final against Poch's Spurs.
Won a local cup and the Eredevesie which is the equivalent of Sunday league here.
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So who's your pick then...
posted on 27/4/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 12 minutes ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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posted on 27/4/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
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Completely agree. His gamble on Tariq Lamptey is a good sign. There's some criticism that he won't be a big enough name to lure players to the club but Poch wasn't either until he developed his reputation with us. We won't need, or won't be able to afford, the kind of players that might turn their noses up at him anyway. I think he might be the perfect manager for us in the current climate.
I'd be happy with him, Rodgers or, at a stretch, Ten Hag.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by LukaBrasi #RentFree Patience - We never forget. (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Potter is contracted to Brighton until 2025. I doubt he is on much so compo for him would be relatively cheap.
But I am I'm all aboard the Ten Haag train. Lets go dutch again. It worked well the first time round with Jol and Ten Haag has a much better CV than Big Martin did before he arrived.
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Going Dutch hasn't served us so well recently - Sanchez, Janssen, Bergwijn.
I know it's not the same thing but still.
posted on 27/4/21
Ten Hag or Potter it is then.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Troy'sTanguyTanganga (U6468)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ten Hag or Potter it is then.
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Yup. Both would mean the start of a new project, but I don't think there's much choice in that respect - not sure there's any managers around who would both improve Spurs immediately, but also be interested in joining Spurs at the minute.
I really don't see Rodgers as a realistic option.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Ten Hag is clearly a capable manager but I think there's a lot of fans here desperate to convince themselves he's the right man. I'm still not sure. The system is what breeds success at Ajax, not the manager. Whichever team nurtured the talent we faced a couple of years back during their teenage years is where the credit is found. Ten Hag is just someone passing through during a rich time of club development. With a bit of luck, De Boer could have had similar talent at his disposal. I'm not saying that he's not a good manager but the players that came through and the triangular patterns of play that, let's face it, should have demolished us, are possibly more an Ajax thing than a Ten Hag thing.
The one thing I'm clinging to is that Bayern were also looking at him before they bagged JN so he must have something about him.
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F de Boer won the league but he played atrocious football and he did shte in Europe. Ten Hag is the best dutch manager in the last 20 years. He is tactically the best manager Ajax had in the last 30 since Van Gaal. His team dominated most opposition teams in Europe.
Ten Hag doesn't play the old school Ajax system of 433 were the wide players play as old fashioned wingers who put crosses in.
He plays more a 4231 which starts as 3151 in the build up phase. He is definitely not an Ajax type of manager who play static football. He is influenced by the German philosophy of high energy football with movement all over the pitch. His man management is very good and he never criticise players in public but always supports them even if they play shte.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
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Completely agree. His gamble on Tariq Lamptey is a good sign. There's some criticism that he won't be a big enough name to lure players to the club but Poch wasn't either until he developed his reputation with us. We won't need, or won't be able to afford, the kind of players that might turn their noses up at him anyway. I think he might be the perfect manager for us in the current climate.
I'd be happy with him, Rodgers or, at a stretch, Ten Hag.
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We should follow Leicester's example, they haven't exactly been luring big names but their signings have done well for them. We also have the pull of the club, the stadium, the location, and more money (compared with Leicester). Not like we were going to attract the Halaands and Mbappes anytime soon anyway. If we can attract better players than Brighton then that's all that should matter.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
Got us nowhere?
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We are measuring in trophies.
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So Ramos got us somewhere but Poch got us nowhere?
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That's more or less what the history books will say.
posted on 27/4/21
Sound like shiiite over simplified accounts of history
posted on 27/4/21
Yeah, that's a pretty abysmal take
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Phenom - 10Hag4boss (U20037)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/_thfcgeorge/status/1386765064481513473
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Carragher spot on with his anaylises there.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sound like shiiite over simplified accounts of history
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The point being that the entertaining, attacking football of Jol, Redknapp and Poch did not win us anything and this points to an issue that goes beyond the quality of the team/squads as all had excellent players at their disposal.
The expectation was that Jose would add that missing element, that win at all costs, get over the line, single minded winning mentality. That is what Spurs have been lacking and without it we have won nothing....It's an ingredient that Jol Redknapp Poch were lacking up to that point in their careers . Jose offered this, at least in theory.
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
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Completely agree. His gamble on Tariq Lamptey is a good sign. There's some criticism that he won't be a big enough name to lure players to the club but Poch wasn't either until he developed his reputation with us. We won't need, or won't be able to afford, the kind of players that might turn their noses up at him anyway. I think he might be the perfect manager for us in the current climate.
I'd be happy with him, Rodgers or, at a stretch, Ten Hag.
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We should follow Leicester's example, they haven't exactly been luring big names but their signings have done well for them. We also have the pull of the club, the stadium, the location, and more money (compared with Leicester). Not like we were going to attract the Halaands and Mbappes anytime soon anyway. If we can attract better players than Brighton then that's all that should matter.
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You say follow Leicester's example but we haven't exactly been shopping for big names
posted on 27/4/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
The truth is that none of us can really make any kind of judgement as to who we think should come in. We've had so many established managers over the years, none of them have achieved a thing, assuming you ignore the League Cup wins. Real progress has been made by one East End wide-boy that initially tasked with avoiding relegation and an untested nobody that happened to do well at Southampton for one season. Neither of those were established 'winners'.
That's why I'm not against Potter. He's not beneath us for the reasons I've listed above. Our best record in the Prem has been under managers you might be a little underwhelmed with. Levy would do well to remember that. If we get a big name in just to keep Kane happy then that's a big mistake. Whoever we choose has to be right for the club long term, even if we have to have a painful overhaul of our squad.
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I think we can look at Potter and make a fairly objective judgement that he would do well based on the fact that he's managing a weaker team than ourselves in the same league, and getting them to outplay and out-create much better opposition than themselves (similar to what Poch was doing at Southampton), and only weak finishers are letting them down, whereas we have much better finishers to work with.
As long as he is given time to imprint his style on us it seems a good fit to me. That and the fact he's English and we need to establish a more home-grown looking squad, which we look like doing with Skipp, Sessegnon, Tanganga waiting in the wings.
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Completely agree. His gamble on Tariq Lamptey is a good sign. There's some criticism that he won't be a big enough name to lure players to the club but Poch wasn't either until he developed his reputation with us. We won't need, or won't be able to afford, the kind of players that might turn their noses up at him anyway. I think he might be the perfect manager for us in the current climate.
I'd be happy with him, Rodgers or, at a stretch, Ten Hag.
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We should follow Leicester's example, they haven't exactly been luring big names but their signings have done well for them. We also have the pull of the club, the stadium, the location, and more money (compared with Leicester). Not like we were going to attract the Halaands and Mbappes anytime soon anyway. If we can attract better players than Brighton then that's all that should matter.
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You say follow Leicester's example but we haven't exactly been shopping for big names
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I mean recruit better basically. Although I do think we actually had a decent transfer window in the summer, and don't have a bad squad. Just that Jose wasted its potential this season.
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