Wood top scorer, nothing in the pitch to worry about, flat
I was half expecting the last wicket partnership to maybe last at least 30 mins. Don't even manage 5!
How much refund are they giving for tickets...at least half seems fair
The thing that really riles me about this team - just like the team under Bayliss actually - is that when things start going badly, there's no big personality in the side who grabs the others by the scruff, and says "we're sorting this out." When one folds, the rest follow. No-one takes responsibility for halting the slide. The only string to our bow when wickets start to fall is hitting out in a deluded "counter attack" and throwing more wickets away.
Stokes is the only player in the side with any backbone (and to a lesser extent, Burns and Buttler). We can't rely on a bail-out from one player every match, and when he doesn't play we're stuffed. It's all too matey, too comfortable and they let each other off the hook too easily.
Take Pope yesterday. I love the player as much as anyone, but in that match situation, there is no way on earth he should be coming in, scoring at more than a run a ball and getting out in the 20s. That's appalling cricket, appalling reading of the match situation and signifies an appalling mentality.
This has been absolutely abject by England, really disappointing. The sort of chastening match that should cause a team to do some proper soul-searching. But we know it won't happen, and for me that stems from poor leadership and a lack of character in the squad.
Always been the trouble with having Root as skipper...he's basically "nobbut a lad" himself....
Couldn't even last a minute ffs
Pope atm is an absolute car crash. Has no idea how or what to do in test cricket.
Was watching him against India and he just keeps swinging his bat thinking he can dominate bowlers. This ain't county cricket mate.
He's good for a quickfire 20 if that.
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
One thing I hate about England is how they always wheel out Leach or whoever the spinner is for overseas tours yet as soon as the home series come about they are dropped like a rash.
Hardly confidence building when u are only called to bowl against teams who are usually WC at playing spinners.
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
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And your reasoning behind this....?
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 28 minutes ago
Pope atm is an absolute car crash. Has no idea how or what to do in test cricket.
Was watching him against India and he just keeps swinging his bat thinking he can dominate bowlers. This ain't county cricket mate.
He's good for a quickfire 20 if that.
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The technic of a lot of these young batsmen will not stand up to test cricket, ok for white ball stuff
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
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And your reasoning behind this....?
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I guess you didn't have any then...
Shambles, I think a loss to India and its curtains for Root.
I just don't think that's the solution, but it'll appease a few disgruntled fans.
Silverwood has to take blame. First the rotation shambles in India and now opting not to pick the IPL players.
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
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And your reasoning behind this....?
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I guess you didn't have any then...
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Better than Root
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 9 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
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And your reasoning behind this....?
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I guess you didn't have any then...
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Better than Root
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yeah...you'll need to do better, i'm not disagreeing with you particularly
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 9 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
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And your reasoning behind this....?
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I guess you didn't have any then...
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Better than Root
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yeah...you'll need to do better, i'm not disagreeing with you particularly
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It's the passion, and ability to raise and install confidence in those around him, Root has non of that
Overdose of ODI cricket , flat tracks has adversely affected english test cricket form.
The rot was started when Strauss apponted Trevor Bayliss (a white ball coach) to run test cricket. Most of the current crop of batsmen have the instincts to try and score off every delivery and do not have the ability to play a long innings when required. The whole ethos of test cricket that is personified by New Zealand has been lost. The ECB is after cash and is white ball cricket mad so the 4 day game is sacrificed to the GOD money.
Only one world class batsmen in this lineup and not so long ago England had Strauss, Cook, Trott, Kevin and Bell. Need more balanced approach from England, primary focus should be test cricket and other are all secondary priorities
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Would be grosslly unfair atttributing failure to Root. England simply lack world class batsmen and they are persisting with James Anderson and Broad for far too long. Need to give youngster opportunities to fill their void once they leave
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posted on 13/6/21
Wood top scorer, nothing in the pitch to worry about, flat
posted on 13/6/21
Christ on a fackin bike
posted on 13/6/21
I was half expecting the last wicket partnership to maybe last at least 30 mins. Don't even manage 5!
posted on 13/6/21
How much refund are they giving for tickets...at least half seems fair
posted on 13/6/21
The thing that really riles me about this team - just like the team under Bayliss actually - is that when things start going badly, there's no big personality in the side who grabs the others by the scruff, and says "we're sorting this out." When one folds, the rest follow. No-one takes responsibility for halting the slide. The only string to our bow when wickets start to fall is hitting out in a deluded "counter attack" and throwing more wickets away.
Stokes is the only player in the side with any backbone (and to a lesser extent, Burns and Buttler). We can't rely on a bail-out from one player every match, and when he doesn't play we're stuffed. It's all too matey, too comfortable and they let each other off the hook too easily.
Take Pope yesterday. I love the player as much as anyone, but in that match situation, there is no way on earth he should be coming in, scoring at more than a run a ball and getting out in the 20s. That's appalling cricket, appalling reading of the match situation and signifies an appalling mentality.
This has been absolutely abject by England, really disappointing. The sort of chastening match that should cause a team to do some proper soul-searching. But we know it won't happen, and for me that stems from poor leadership and a lack of character in the squad.
posted on 13/6/21
Always been the trouble with having Root as skipper...he's basically "nobbut a lad" himself....
posted on 13/6/21
Couldn't even last a minute ffs
posted on 13/6/21
Pope atm is an absolute car crash. Has no idea how or what to do in test cricket.
Was watching him against India and he just keeps swinging his bat thinking he can dominate bowlers. This ain't county cricket mate.
He's good for a quickfire 20 if that.
posted on 13/6/21
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
posted on 13/6/21
One thing I hate about England is how they always wheel out Leach or whoever the spinner is for overseas tours yet as soon as the home series come about they are dropped like a rash.
Hardly confidence building when u are only called to bowl against teams who are usually WC at playing spinners.
posted on 13/6/21
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
posted on 13/6/21
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
posted on 13/6/21
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
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And your reasoning behind this....?
posted on 13/6/21
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 28 minutes ago
Pope atm is an absolute car crash. Has no idea how or what to do in test cricket.
Was watching him against India and he just keeps swinging his bat thinking he can dominate bowlers. This ain't county cricket mate.
He's good for a quickfire 20 if that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The technic of a lot of these young batsmen will not stand up to test cricket, ok for white ball stuff
posted on 13/6/21
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stokes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And your reasoning behind this....?
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I guess you didn't have any then...
posted on 13/6/21
Shambles, I think a loss to India and its curtains for Root.
I just don't think that's the solution, but it'll appease a few disgruntled fans.
posted on 13/6/21
Silverwood has to take blame. First the rotation shambles in India and now opting not to pick the IPL players.
posted on 13/6/21
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
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Stokes
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And your reasoning behind this....?
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I guess you didn't have any then...
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Better than Root
posted on 14/6/21
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 9 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stokes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And your reasoning behind this....?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you didn't have any then...
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Better than Root
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yeah...you'll need to do better, i'm not disagreeing with you particularly
posted on 14/6/21
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 9 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 14 seconds ago
Root is weak as P**s as a captain, needs to relinquish the role
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Who would you have...?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stokes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And your reasoning behind this....?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you didn't have any then...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Better than Root
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yeah...you'll need to do better, i'm not disagreeing with you particularly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's the passion, and ability to raise and install confidence in those around him, Root has non of that
posted on 14/6/21
Overdose of ODI cricket , flat tracks has adversely affected english test cricket form.
posted on 14/6/21
The rot was started when Strauss apponted Trevor Bayliss (a white ball coach) to run test cricket. Most of the current crop of batsmen have the instincts to try and score off every delivery and do not have the ability to play a long innings when required. The whole ethos of test cricket that is personified by New Zealand has been lost. The ECB is after cash and is white ball cricket mad so the 4 day game is sacrificed to the GOD money.
posted on 14/6/21
Only one world class batsmen in this lineup and not so long ago England had Strauss, Cook, Trott, Kevin and Bell. Need more balanced approach from England, primary focus should be test cricket and other are all secondary priorities
posted on 14/6/21
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posted on 15/6/21
Would be grosslly unfair atttributing failure to Root. England simply lack world class batsmen and they are persisting with James Anderson and Broad for far too long. Need to give youngster opportunities to fill their void once they leave
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