comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
be interesting to know what the plans for garner are for this season, and also what the club thinks his long term role is likely to be
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If the plan is a loan I wonder if they'd consider sending him to Rennes if we did sign Camavinga? Something to sweeten the deal.
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or to dortmund as part of a sancho deal?
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Can't see us signing Sancho now. I think we've left it too late
(That was sarcasm just to be clear)
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
comment by Pun Guy (U21588)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
be interesting to know what the plans for garner are for this season, and also what the club thinks his long term role is likely to be
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If the plan is a loan I wonder if they'd consider sending him to Rennes if we did sign Camavinga? Something to sweeten the deal.
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or to dortmund as part of a sancho deal?
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Can't see us signing Sancho now. I think we've left it too late
(That was sarcasm just to be clear)
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Sarcasm sarcasm. Very meta.
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
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Sounds like made up media nonsense to sell papers (to rival fans and ABUs)
Only positive stories in the rags regarding us and links to players I want us to sign are true.
comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo
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Sounds like made up media nonsense to sell papers (to rival fans and ABUs)
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seems to have done the trick with this be!!end, who is at least taking time off from crying over england's run in the euros
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 11 minutes ago
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
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Who to believe? Fabrizio Romano or the Mirror? That’s a tough one….
I bet the laughter was like when Dr. Evil asks for one million dollars
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
I can't imagine we are about to drop £30m on a young squad player when we need a CB and DM
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Firstly, Fabrizio is an incredibly reliable source, if he says it, it's 99% something that's happening.
Secondly, we were happy to spend £25m on a 17-year old Bellingham with even less professional appearances.
Clearly a young, super talented CM is part of the clubs plans
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 23 minutes ago
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
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Using recycled "news" from a rag to discredit Utd is quite laughable to be fair.
His all round game seems impressive, particularly for his age. Less of an out and out destroyer and more of an all rounder. Watching as much as I can of him and delving into his stats over the last year, he's clearly a very aggressive tackler and very comfortable with the ball. He will disposes someone and then move forward with the ball, looking to then play it forward and set up an attack. What does concern me is his interceptions, which are incredibly low.
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What also concerns me a bit is his distribution. His passing it seems tends to be quite safe. It's his carrying which is more aggressive and of a higher volume but having somebody who can help us transition by running with the ball would be of value to our midfield as well.
I'd still like a better passer in midfield who can take more responsibility with the ball off the CBs, pass through the middle and switch play quickly.
I said the other day I'm not sure Camavinga is a good fit for us at this moment in time but if that price is true then that may change things. I have my doubts if that price is accurate though despite who's reporting it.
If we sign Camavinga I think Pogba has to go and if it isn't dependent on Pogba leaving, get rid of him and sign somebody suited to play alongside Camavinga, ideally with a similar sort of profile to Locatelli, Bruno Guimaraes or Brozovic.
comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
I can't imagine we are about to drop £30m on a young squad player when we need a CB and DM
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Firstly, Fabrizio is an incredibly reliable source, if he says it, it's 99% something that's happening.
Secondly, we were happy to spend £25m on a 17-year old Bellingham with even less professional appearances.
Clearly a young, super talented CM is part of the clubs plans
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Romano seems to run with existing stories / rumour. How often has he been the first to report interest between club and player before a deal is done / being widely reported elsewhere?
As for Bellingham, I suspect he would have been loaned either back to Birmingham or elsewhere for a season or 2 had we got him.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 11 minutes ago
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
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Who to believe? Fabrizio Romano or the Mirror? That’s a tough one….
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You have to believe in yourself so always the mirror
comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
I can't imagine we are about to drop £30m on a young squad player when we need a CB and DM
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Firstly, Fabrizio is an incredibly reliable source, if he says it, it's 99% something that's happening.
Secondly, we were happy to spend £25m on a 17-year old Bellingham with even less professional appearances.
Clearly a young, super talented CM is part of the clubs plans
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To be fair I thought we have a couple in Donny, then younger, Hannibal and to a lesser degree Garner.
If Pogba goes I do think we would be light on quality in CM, and I’d quite happily see the back of Fred or Matic tbh.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 18 minutes ago
His all round game seems impressive, particularly for his age. Less of an out and out destroyer and more of an all rounder. Watching as much as I can of him and delving into his stats over the last year, he's clearly a very aggressive tackler and very comfortable with the ball. He will disposes someone and then move forward with the ball, looking to then play it forward and set up an attack. What does concern me is his interceptions, which are incredibly low.
---------------------------------------------
What also concerns me a bit is his distribution. His passing it seems tends to be quite safe. It's his carrying which is more aggressive and of a higher volume but having somebody who can help us transition by running with the ball would be of value to our midfield as well.
I'd still like a better passer in midfield who can take more responsibility with the ball off the CBs, pass through the middle and switch play quickly.
I said the other day I'm not sure Camavinga is a good fit for us at this moment in time but if that price is true then that may change things. I have my doubts if that price is accurate though despite who's reporting it.
If we sign Camavinga I think Pogba has to go and if it isn't dependent on Pogba leaving, get rid of him and sign somebody suited to play alongside Camavinga, ideally with a similar sort of profile to Locatelli, Bruno Guimaraes or Brozovic.
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Yeah all fair points. His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
One of the interesting things about Jack Grealish was he played Gaelic football up to around 13 and credits the physicality of that and playing in age groups higher than he really belonged in with what had helped him develop the ability to withstand and ride challenges and hold his own in a physical contest. I imagine Bellingham and Camavinga will similarly benefit from that type of experience.
I’d love to think signing Sancho gives us an advantage when Haaland and Bellingham consider their next moves.
What a fabulous bit of business the Sancho deal would would be if this were the case.
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
I can't imagine we are about to drop £30m on a young squad player when we need a CB and DM
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Firstly, Fabrizio is an incredibly reliable source, if he says it, it's 99% something that's happening.
Secondly, we were happy to spend £25m on a 17-year old Bellingham with even less professional appearances.
Clearly a young, super talented CM is part of the clubs plans
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Romano seems to run with existing stories / rumour. How often has he been the first to report interest between club and player before a deal is done / being widely reported elsewhere?
As for Bellingham, I suspect he would have been loaned either back to Birmingham or elsewhere for a season or 2 had we got him.
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I agree Romano often confirms other people’s news but he always seems to know what is real and what is hot air.
If he is confirming another journalists story you can be sure there is something in it.
He does break stuff first some times to be fair.
His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
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The problem is this squad is lacking in players who we can rely on week in week out, especially in central midfield.
We should be focusing on signing more players who not only have the quality but are closer to their peak, around the 23-27 age group.
It's hard to see this team taking the next step without bringing in an established and higher calibre central midfielder and one who's more ball dominant.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 11 minutes ago
His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
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The problem is this squad is lacking in players who we can rely on week in week out, especially in central midfield.
We should be focusing on signing more players who not only have the quality but are closer to their peak, around the 23-27 age group.
It's hard to see this team taking the next step without bringing in an established and higher calibre central midfielder and one who's more ball dominant.
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Yeah I'd agree, I just think the price is too good to pass up on, if we can help it. There aren't a whole host of obvious players available to come in and significantly upgrade us and if we spend over £100 million on Sancho and Varane then the cost of this deal is probably more on the money. Can't see who we could get for that amount that is even close in terms of talent and potential or is ready to just slot straight in.
Saul seems a clear option to me but we don't seem to be pursuing him and that coupled with how ready Atletico seem to be to let him go leads me to think that there's a good chance I just don't have the depth of knowledge and the clubs know something I don't. Which isn't a surprise, they'll have tracked and monitored him far, far more than I have.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 22 minutes ago
His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
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The problem is this squad is lacking in players who we can rely on week in week out, especially in central midfield.
We should be focusing on signing more players who not only have the quality but are closer to their peak, around the 23-27 age group.
It's hard to see this team taking the next step without bringing in an established and higher calibre central midfielder and one who's more ball dominant.
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I don't see what age has to do with it if they have the quality.
I've not seen him play recently but is Pjanic still a decent player? Talk of Barca releasing him. Would he be worth a punt as a more experienced player?
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
I've not seen him play recently but is Pjanic still a decent player? Talk of Barca releasing him. Would he be worth a punt as a more experienced player?
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Didn’t play that much last season. Not sure if it was injury or something else. Quality player at his best but probably not what we need.
Yeah I'd agree, I just think the price is too good to pass up on, if we can help it. There aren't a whole host of obvious players available to come in and significantly upgrade us and if we spend over £100 million on Sancho and Varane then the cost of this deal is probably more on the money. Can't see who we could get for that amount that is even close in terms of talent and potential or is ready to just slot straight in.
Saul seems a clear option to me but we don't seem to be pursuing him and that coupled with how ready Atletico seem to be to let him go leads me to think that there's a good chance I just don't have the depth of knowledge and the clubs know something I don't. Which isn't a surprise, they'll have tracked and monitored him far, far more than I have.
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If the price is that low then yes it'd be tough to ignore.
There are some good options out there if we're willing to look who I don't think would cost a huge amount. The same person who says Camavinga is available for €30 million has said Locatelli is available for €40 million and I don't think Bruno Guimaraes would cost too much more than that if it all. Brozovic has only a year left on his contract with Inter so would probably come reasonably cheap too.
If there's one Atletico midfielder I'd like it's Marcos Llorente but he's got a huge release clause unfortunately. It was reported we looked at him last January when we got Bruno. This was before he exploded in a more advanced role for Atleti. It's a shame we didn't make a move for him back then.
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 22 minutes ago
His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
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The problem is this squad is lacking in players who we can rely on week in week out, especially in central midfield.
We should be focusing on signing more players who not only have the quality but are closer to their peak, around the 23-27 age group.
It's hard to see this team taking the next step without bringing in an established and higher calibre central midfielder and one who's more ball dominant.
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I don't see what age has to do with it if they have the quality.
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Mentality, experience... Often consistency, tactical awareness, decision making, game reading
For the price mentioned the move is a no brainer imo... But TRS has a valid point... We really need a leader in the middle
United would be a good stepping stone for the lad, at this stage of his career.
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posted on 5/7/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
be interesting to know what the plans for garner are for this season, and also what the club thinks his long term role is likely to be
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If the plan is a loan I wonder if they'd consider sending him to Rennes if we did sign Camavinga? Something to sweeten the deal.
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or to dortmund as part of a sancho deal?
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Can't see us signing Sancho now. I think we've left it too late
(That was sarcasm just to be clear)
posted on 5/7/21
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by Pun Guy (U21588)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
be interesting to know what the plans for garner are for this season, and also what the club thinks his long term role is likely to be
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If the plan is a loan I wonder if they'd consider sending him to Rennes if we did sign Camavinga? Something to sweeten the deal.
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or to dortmund as part of a sancho deal?
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Can't see us signing Sancho now. I think we've left it too late
(That was sarcasm just to be clear)
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Sarcasm sarcasm. Very meta.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
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Sounds like made up media nonsense to sell papers (to rival fans and ABUs)
Only positive stories in the rags regarding us and links to players I want us to sign are true.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo
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Sounds like made up media nonsense to sell papers (to rival fans and ABUs)
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seems to have done the trick with this be!!end, who is at least taking time off from crying over england's run in the euros
posted on 5/7/21
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 11 minutes ago
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
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Who to believe? Fabrizio Romano or the Mirror? That’s a tough one….
posted on 5/7/21
I bet the laughter was like when Dr. Evil asks for one million dollars
posted on 5/7/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
I can't imagine we are about to drop £30m on a young squad player when we need a CB and DM
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Firstly, Fabrizio is an incredibly reliable source, if he says it, it's 99% something that's happening.
Secondly, we were happy to spend £25m on a 17-year old Bellingham with even less professional appearances.
Clearly a young, super talented CM is part of the clubs plans
posted on 5/7/21
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 23 minutes ago
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
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Using recycled "news" from a rag to discredit Utd is quite laughable to be fair.
posted on 5/7/21
His all round game seems impressive, particularly for his age. Less of an out and out destroyer and more of an all rounder. Watching as much as I can of him and delving into his stats over the last year, he's clearly a very aggressive tackler and very comfortable with the ball. He will disposes someone and then move forward with the ball, looking to then play it forward and set up an attack. What does concern me is his interceptions, which are incredibly low.
---------------------------------------------
What also concerns me a bit is his distribution. His passing it seems tends to be quite safe. It's his carrying which is more aggressive and of a higher volume but having somebody who can help us transition by running with the ball would be of value to our midfield as well.
I'd still like a better passer in midfield who can take more responsibility with the ball off the CBs, pass through the middle and switch play quickly.
I said the other day I'm not sure Camavinga is a good fit for us at this moment in time but if that price is true then that may change things. I have my doubts if that price is accurate though despite who's reporting it.
If we sign Camavinga I think Pogba has to go and if it isn't dependent on Pogba leaving, get rid of him and sign somebody suited to play alongside Camavinga, ideally with a similar sort of profile to Locatelli, Bruno Guimaraes or Brozovic.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
I can't imagine we are about to drop £30m on a young squad player when we need a CB and DM
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Firstly, Fabrizio is an incredibly reliable source, if he says it, it's 99% something that's happening.
Secondly, we were happy to spend £25m on a 17-year old Bellingham with even less professional appearances.
Clearly a young, super talented CM is part of the clubs plans
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Romano seems to run with existing stories / rumour. How often has he been the first to report interest between club and player before a deal is done / being widely reported elsewhere?
As for Bellingham, I suspect he would have been loaned either back to Birmingham or elsewhere for a season or 2 had we got him.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash - "Pedrocogolou, the kangaroo barks, the caravan keeps moving" (U21935)
posted 11 minutes ago
Manchester United's hopes of signing Eduardo Camavinga have been dashed after Rennes laughed at their initial transfer proposal, according to reports in France.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-eduardo-camavinga-bid-24461462
Laughed at.
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Who to believe? Fabrizio Romano or the Mirror? That’s a tough one….
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You have to believe in yourself so always the mirror
posted on 5/7/21
comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
I can't imagine we are about to drop £30m on a young squad player when we need a CB and DM
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Firstly, Fabrizio is an incredibly reliable source, if he says it, it's 99% something that's happening.
Secondly, we were happy to spend £25m on a 17-year old Bellingham with even less professional appearances.
Clearly a young, super talented CM is part of the clubs plans
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To be fair I thought we have a couple in Donny, then younger, Hannibal and to a lesser degree Garner.
If Pogba goes I do think we would be light on quality in CM, and I’d quite happily see the back of Fred or Matic tbh.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 18 minutes ago
His all round game seems impressive, particularly for his age. Less of an out and out destroyer and more of an all rounder. Watching as much as I can of him and delving into his stats over the last year, he's clearly a very aggressive tackler and very comfortable with the ball. He will disposes someone and then move forward with the ball, looking to then play it forward and set up an attack. What does concern me is his interceptions, which are incredibly low.
---------------------------------------------
What also concerns me a bit is his distribution. His passing it seems tends to be quite safe. It's his carrying which is more aggressive and of a higher volume but having somebody who can help us transition by running with the ball would be of value to our midfield as well.
I'd still like a better passer in midfield who can take more responsibility with the ball off the CBs, pass through the middle and switch play quickly.
I said the other day I'm not sure Camavinga is a good fit for us at this moment in time but if that price is true then that may change things. I have my doubts if that price is accurate though despite who's reporting it.
If we sign Camavinga I think Pogba has to go and if it isn't dependent on Pogba leaving, get rid of him and sign somebody suited to play alongside Camavinga, ideally with a similar sort of profile to Locatelli, Bruno Guimaraes or Brozovic.
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Yeah all fair points. His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
One of the interesting things about Jack Grealish was he played Gaelic football up to around 13 and credits the physicality of that and playing in age groups higher than he really belonged in with what had helped him develop the ability to withstand and ride challenges and hold his own in a physical contest. I imagine Bellingham and Camavinga will similarly benefit from that type of experience.
posted on 5/7/21
I’d love to think signing Sancho gives us an advantage when Haaland and Bellingham consider their next moves.
What a fabulous bit of business the Sancho deal would would be if this were the case.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
I can't imagine we are about to drop £30m on a young squad player when we need a CB and DM
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Firstly, Fabrizio is an incredibly reliable source, if he says it, it's 99% something that's happening.
Secondly, we were happy to spend £25m on a 17-year old Bellingham with even less professional appearances.
Clearly a young, super talented CM is part of the clubs plans
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Romano seems to run with existing stories / rumour. How often has he been the first to report interest between club and player before a deal is done / being widely reported elsewhere?
As for Bellingham, I suspect he would have been loaned either back to Birmingham or elsewhere for a season or 2 had we got him.
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I agree Romano often confirms other people’s news but he always seems to know what is real and what is hot air.
If he is confirming another journalists story you can be sure there is something in it.
He does break stuff first some times to be fair.
posted on 5/7/21
His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
-------------------------------------------
The problem is this squad is lacking in players who we can rely on week in week out, especially in central midfield.
We should be focusing on signing more players who not only have the quality but are closer to their peak, around the 23-27 age group.
It's hard to see this team taking the next step without bringing in an established and higher calibre central midfielder and one who's more ball dominant.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 11 minutes ago
His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
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The problem is this squad is lacking in players who we can rely on week in week out, especially in central midfield.
We should be focusing on signing more players who not only have the quality but are closer to their peak, around the 23-27 age group.
It's hard to see this team taking the next step without bringing in an established and higher calibre central midfielder and one who's more ball dominant.
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Yeah I'd agree, I just think the price is too good to pass up on, if we can help it. There aren't a whole host of obvious players available to come in and significantly upgrade us and if we spend over £100 million on Sancho and Varane then the cost of this deal is probably more on the money. Can't see who we could get for that amount that is even close in terms of talent and potential or is ready to just slot straight in.
Saul seems a clear option to me but we don't seem to be pursuing him and that coupled with how ready Atletico seem to be to let him go leads me to think that there's a good chance I just don't have the depth of knowledge and the clubs know something I don't. Which isn't a surprise, they'll have tracked and monitored him far, far more than I have.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 22 minutes ago
His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
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The problem is this squad is lacking in players who we can rely on week in week out, especially in central midfield.
We should be focusing on signing more players who not only have the quality but are closer to their peak, around the 23-27 age group.
It's hard to see this team taking the next step without bringing in an established and higher calibre central midfielder and one who's more ball dominant.
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I don't see what age has to do with it if they have the quality.
posted on 5/7/21
I've not seen him play recently but is Pjanic still a decent player? Talk of Barca releasing him. Would he be worth a punt as a more experienced player?
posted on 5/7/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
I've not seen him play recently but is Pjanic still a decent player? Talk of Barca releasing him. Would he be worth a punt as a more experienced player?
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Didn’t play that much last season. Not sure if it was injury or something else. Quality player at his best but probably not what we need.
posted on 5/7/21
Yeah I'd agree, I just think the price is too good to pass up on, if we can help it. There aren't a whole host of obvious players available to come in and significantly upgrade us and if we spend over £100 million on Sancho and Varane then the cost of this deal is probably more on the money. Can't see who we could get for that amount that is even close in terms of talent and potential or is ready to just slot straight in.
Saul seems a clear option to me but we don't seem to be pursuing him and that coupled with how ready Atletico seem to be to let him go leads me to think that there's a good chance I just don't have the depth of knowledge and the clubs know something I don't. Which isn't a surprise, they'll have tracked and monitored him far, far more than I have.
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If the price is that low then yes it'd be tough to ignore.
There are some good options out there if we're willing to look who I don't think would cost a huge amount. The same person who says Camavinga is available for €30 million has said Locatelli is available for €40 million and I don't think Bruno Guimaraes would cost too much more than that if it all. Brozovic has only a year left on his contract with Inter so would probably come reasonably cheap too.
If there's one Atletico midfielder I'd like it's Marcos Llorente but he's got a huge release clause unfortunately. It was reported we looked at him last January when we got Bruno. This was before he exploded in a more advanced role for Atleti. It's a shame we didn't make a move for him back then.
posted on 5/7/21
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 22 minutes ago
His age is particularly helpful though in that it buys us some time to work him into the team. He isn't such an obvious starter that it presents an immediate dilemma. If we sign him then I will lean towards the idea we've come to terms with losing Pogba. He's the sort of talent though that you snap up if you can. In the Bellingham category of potential and he's made something stupid like almost 100 aplearenves already. Excellent training for a young lad, competing against grown men in a legit league.
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The problem is this squad is lacking in players who we can rely on week in week out, especially in central midfield.
We should be focusing on signing more players who not only have the quality but are closer to their peak, around the 23-27 age group.
It's hard to see this team taking the next step without bringing in an established and higher calibre central midfielder and one who's more ball dominant.
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I don't see what age has to do with it if they have the quality.
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Mentality, experience... Often consistency, tactical awareness, decision making, game reading
For the price mentioned the move is a no brainer imo... But TRS has a valid point... We really need a leader in the middle
posted on 6/7/21
United would be a good stepping stone for the lad, at this stage of his career.
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