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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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No, they probably won't think like that, but I'm sure going through any negotiations with the players now, they will be saying "can you convince me that the club will win trophies". Can Ole really give a convincing argument? Not really. Whereas LVG and Jose could have backed it up.
It's a major factor in attracting players at the top level, it's the biggest one, but it is a major factor. Clubs that are winning trophies are always likely to attract the very best players.
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
it's not the biggest one *
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
We’ll always attract players due to our status and determination to push the boat out for transfer fees and wages.
We broke the transfer record when we were in the Europa League ffs.
It’s lucky for others we’ve not been well run, when you look at what we’ve been able to do in the market despite being a laughing stock since Fergie retired.
Rival fans know this, which is why they are happy for us to plod along as we have been.
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
United's size and finance will always attract players, that's a fact. However, the top players will want to move to teams who are winning trophies and are at the top.
Are United really going to be able to attract the very best players at he moment? Whilst Varane and Sancho are very good players & signings, would they have joined United if Real Madrid weren't in the situation they were in and Dortmund were what they were 7/8 years ago? Probably not.
Could City, Liverpool or Chelsea do this? Probably yes. I can't think many players would turn Man City down at this time and if Chelsea wanted to sign Haaland or Lewandowski, as rumoured, I'm sure they'd get that deal done and obviously Liverpool signed Thiago last summer from the European Champions and arguably best team in Europe at the time as well.
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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you do realise that part of signing a player is to push the managers vision and the direction he is looking to take the team to.
you really are black and white in your views
moyes
fellaini
jose
backed to the hilt and could do very little wrong in your eyes
ole, knocked at every chance and can do no right... its comical
its very coincidental then when we go through our best spells you seem to vanish
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 21 seconds ago
We’ll always attract players due to our status and determination to push the boat out for transfer fees and wages.
We broke the transfer record when we were in the Europa League ffs.
It’s lucky for others we’ve not been well run, when you look at what we’ve been able to do in the market despite being a laughing stock since Fergie retired.
Rival fans know this, which is why they are happy for us to plod along as we have been.
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Yepp, have to respectfully agree. You certainly seem to be starting to turn towards the right path now. A signing like Sancho worries me a lot more than the likes of Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Rojo, Blind, Fellaini, Di Maria, Falcao, Darmian, Fred, Dalot etc.
I mean, literally, each one of those, without even the benefit of hindsight, you could look at and think, why on earth are a club of this stature signing that player, when there are so many better options available, and convincing any player to join Utd isn't exactly difficult?
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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you do realise that part of signing a player is to push the managers vision and the direction he is looking to take the team to.
you really are black and white in your views
moyes
fellaini
jose
backed to the hilt and could do very little wrong in your eyes
ole, knocked at every chance and can do no right... its comical
its very coincidental then when we go through our best spells you seem to vanish
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Where have I said Ole can do no right? I’ve said he deserves this season. I wouldn’t sack him now. But I’m also saying that he’s got to succeed or else he will be perceived as a failure. And it’s a very commonly held belief that if/when he’s sacked the list of clubs that would want him as manager is low. I doubt his post United career will be as good as Moyes let alone others.
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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Would you like to buy some snake oil?
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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Would you like to buy some snake oil?
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You clearly contradicted yourself by admitting Sancho referred to Ole as a reason for joining.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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Would you like to buy some snake oil?
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You clearly contradicted yourself by admitting Sancho referred to Ole as a reason for joining.
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I said I doubt the new players really care about the Ole vision. You said that Sancho said Ole was part of the reason. And guess what, I still doubt it. What Sancho said are just stock words that every player uses for every manager at every club they join. I’m sure the Chelsea players said the same about Lampard when they joined and when he was sacked for Tuchel lost about as much sleep as Dunks mum did when he came out.
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Forget Ole, he's almost irrelevant in that sense. The project though is clearly more attractive. The club is in a much better place. Go and watch some media reports or fan channels arou d November's 18 if you've forgotten how toxic and miserable it was. The squad containing the likes of Greenwood, Maguire, Rashford, Sancho, Bruno etc is clearly more attractive than Valencia, Fellaini and Ashley Young. I think even most anti United people will accept that the last couple of years has seen the club sort a better recruitment strategy and insert a better foundation internally, with an actual footballing structure in place. The mood around Manchester United is very different to 3 years ago.
I don't inagine Varane wants to join in the January following Mourinho leaving. The place we are in now as well as Madrid is markedly different though and that will play a part.
It isn't mediocre football at all, we've scored more than most teams and had some big results whilst clearly going though a transition from a counter attacking team when Ole first joined, to a more front foot, possession based team and now moving towards a more attack focused 433, the football we've seen in the last 2 and a half years is definitely an upgrade on everything we've seen post Fergie.
Some people have really short memories, there have been far more high quality goals, moments and games than you are giving us credit for. It isn't Liverpool of a couple of years ago but mediocre is unfair, we've been more entertaining than we have for a while and that's whilst using a significantly higher number of home grown and academy players than our rivals put together. That means something to me, might not to everyone but British talent should be a core of our club and we're no slouches in that regard.
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United's size and finance will always attract players, that's a fact. However, the top players will want to move to teams who are winning trophies and are at the top.
Are United really going to be able to attract the very best players at he moment? Whilst Varane and Sancho are very good players & signings, would they have joined United if Real Madrid weren't in the situation they were in and Dortmund were what they were 7/8 years ago? Probably not.
Could City, Liverpool or Chelsea do this? Probably yes. I can't think many players would turn Man City down at this time and if Chelsea wanted to sign Haaland or Lewandowski, as rumoured, I'm sure they'd get that deal done and obviously Liverpool signed Thiago last summer from the European Champions and arguably best team in Europe at the time as well.
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Paying people £350,000 per week will generally attract players. Not exactly a secret is it.
It's hugely likely Sancho will be at Utd long after Ole has left anyway, got little to nothing to do with him.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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Would you like to buy some snake oil?
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You clearly contradicted yourself by admitting Sancho referred to Ole as a reason for joining.
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I said I doubt the new players really care about the Ole vision. You said that Sancho said Ole was part of the reason. And guess what, I still doubt it. What Sancho said are just stock words that every player uses for every manager at every club they join. I’m sure the Chelsea players said the same about Lampard when they joined and when he was sacked for Tuchel lost about as much sleep as Dunks mum did when he came out.
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I don't need snake oil. No snakes in Manchester mate, you better buy some though. Australia is rife with them right? Let's hope a poisonous one doesn't sneak into your bed tonight and bite you for all the bad things you've said about Ole...
We also pay transfer fees that very few clubs can, or are willing to pay. I think it’s four of the five most expensive transfers in England were made by us.
Obviously we can’t sign anyone we want, and the success of those transfers is another matter, but we pay fees and wages that even Chelsea and City haven’t been willing to pay.
It’s why Fred, Sanchez and Maguire ended up Old Trafford rather than the Etihad. United have a lot of power in the transfer market. More so than we did under Fergie, we didn’t have the financial capability to make someone like City back down.
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We also pay transfer fees that very few clubs can, or are willing to pay. I think it’s four of the five most expensive transfers in England were made by us.
Obviously we can’t sign anyone we want, and the success of those transfers is another matter, but we pay fees and wages that even Chelsea and City haven’t been willing to pay.
It’s why Fred, Sanchez and Maguire ended up Old Trafford rather than the Etihad. United have a lot of power in the transfer market. More so than we did under Fergie, we didn’t have the financial capability to make someone like City back down.
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Ole is a huge factor behind the Sancho and Varane signings. If he couldn't convince them they'd go elsewhere. End of story.
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We also pay transfer fees that very few clubs can, or are willing to pay. I think it’s four of the five most expensive transfers in England were made by us.
Obviously we can’t sign anyone we want, and the success of those transfers is another matter, but we pay fees and wages that even Chelsea and City haven’t been willing to pay.
It’s why Fred, Sanchez and Maguire ended up Old Trafford rather than the Etihad. United have a lot of power in the transfer market. More so than we did under Fergie, we didn’t have the financial capability to make someone like City back down.
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Ole is a huge factor behind the Sancho and Varane signings. If he couldn't convince them they'd go elsewhere. End of story.
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Oh shush. It;s because a) Utd would pay the fee and b) they are being paid an enormous amount.
Sancho will likely be at Utd for at least 5 years where as it is highly unlikely Ole will. You're talking nonsense again.
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We also pay transfer fees that very few clubs can, or are willing to pay. I think it’s four of the five most expensive transfers in England were made by us.
Obviously we can’t sign anyone we want, and the success of those transfers is another matter, but we pay fees and wages that even Chelsea and City haven’t been willing to pay.
It’s why Fred, Sanchez and Maguire ended up Old Trafford rather than the Etihad. United have a lot of power in the transfer market. More so than we did under Fergie, we didn’t have the financial capability to make someone like City back down.
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Ole is a huge factor behind the Sancho and Varane signings. If he couldn't convince them they'd go elsewhere. End of story.
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Oh shush. It;s because a) Utd would pay the fee and b) they are being paid an enormous amount.
Sancho will likely be at Utd for at least 5 years where as it is highly unlikely Ole will. You're talking nonsense again.
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Point B is wrong. Madrid/Juve/PSG/City would pay him a huge amount so why didn't he go there? He'd walk into the City side over Mahrez or Sterling. Same at PSG with Di Maria. Juve too and Madrid.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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No, they probably won't think like that, but I'm sure going through any negotiations with the players now, they will be saying "can you convince me that the club will win trophies". Can Ole really give a convincing argument? Not really. Whereas LVG and Jose could have backed it up.
It's a major factor in attracting players at the top level, it's the biggest one, but it is a major factor. Clubs that are winning trophies are always likely to attract the very best players.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
posted on 26/7/21
We’ll always attract players due to our status and determination to push the boat out for transfer fees and wages.
We broke the transfer record when we were in the Europa League ffs.
It’s lucky for others we’ve not been well run, when you look at what we’ve been able to do in the market despite being a laughing stock since Fergie retired.
Rival fans know this, which is why they are happy for us to plod along as we have been.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
posted on 26/7/21
United's size and finance will always attract players, that's a fact. However, the top players will want to move to teams who are winning trophies and are at the top.
Are United really going to be able to attract the very best players at he moment? Whilst Varane and Sancho are very good players & signings, would they have joined United if Real Madrid weren't in the situation they were in and Dortmund were what they were 7/8 years ago? Probably not.
Could City, Liverpool or Chelsea do this? Probably yes. I can't think many players would turn Man City down at this time and if Chelsea wanted to sign Haaland or Lewandowski, as rumoured, I'm sure they'd get that deal done and obviously Liverpool signed Thiago last summer from the European Champions and arguably best team in Europe at the time as well.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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you do realise that part of signing a player is to push the managers vision and the direction he is looking to take the team to.
you really are black and white in your views
moyes
fellaini
jose
backed to the hilt and could do very little wrong in your eyes
ole, knocked at every chance and can do no right... its comical
its very coincidental then when we go through our best spells you seem to vanish
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comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 21 seconds ago
We’ll always attract players due to our status and determination to push the boat out for transfer fees and wages.
We broke the transfer record when we were in the Europa League ffs.
It’s lucky for others we’ve not been well run, when you look at what we’ve been able to do in the market despite being a laughing stock since Fergie retired.
Rival fans know this, which is why they are happy for us to plod along as we have been.
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Yepp, have to respectfully agree. You certainly seem to be starting to turn towards the right path now. A signing like Sancho worries me a lot more than the likes of Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Rojo, Blind, Fellaini, Di Maria, Falcao, Darmian, Fred, Dalot etc.
I mean, literally, each one of those, without even the benefit of hindsight, you could look at and think, why on earth are a club of this stature signing that player, when there are so many better options available, and convincing any player to join Utd isn't exactly difficult?
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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you do realise that part of signing a player is to push the managers vision and the direction he is looking to take the team to.
you really are black and white in your views
moyes
fellaini
jose
backed to the hilt and could do very little wrong in your eyes
ole, knocked at every chance and can do no right... its comical
its very coincidental then when we go through our best spells you seem to vanish
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Where have I said Ole can do no right? I’ve said he deserves this season. I wouldn’t sack him now. But I’m also saying that he’s got to succeed or else he will be perceived as a failure. And it’s a very commonly held belief that if/when he’s sacked the list of clubs that would want him as manager is low. I doubt his post United career will be as good as Moyes let alone others.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
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No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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Would you like to buy some snake oil?
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Robb - Ashes prediction 5-0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb - Ashes prediction 5-0 (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb - Ashes prediction 5-0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 minutes ago
No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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Would you like to buy some snake oil?
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You clearly contradicted yourself by admitting Sancho referred to Ole as a reason for joining.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Ashes prediction 5-0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
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comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb - Ashes prediction 5-0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 minutes ago
No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
-------------------------------
They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
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The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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Would you like to buy some snake oil?
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You clearly contradicted yourself by admitting Sancho referred to Ole as a reason for joining.
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I said I doubt the new players really care about the Ole vision. You said that Sancho said Ole was part of the reason. And guess what, I still doubt it. What Sancho said are just stock words that every player uses for every manager at every club they join. I’m sure the Chelsea players said the same about Lampard when they joined and when he was sacked for Tuchel lost about as much sleep as Dunks mum did when he came out.
posted on 26/7/21
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posted on 26/7/21
The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Forget Ole, he's almost irrelevant in that sense. The project though is clearly more attractive. The club is in a much better place. Go and watch some media reports or fan channels arou d November's 18 if you've forgotten how toxic and miserable it was. The squad containing the likes of Greenwood, Maguire, Rashford, Sancho, Bruno etc is clearly more attractive than Valencia, Fellaini and Ashley Young. I think even most anti United people will accept that the last couple of years has seen the club sort a better recruitment strategy and insert a better foundation internally, with an actual footballing structure in place. The mood around Manchester United is very different to 3 years ago.
I don't inagine Varane wants to join in the January following Mourinho leaving. The place we are in now as well as Madrid is markedly different though and that will play a part.
It isn't mediocre football at all, we've scored more than most teams and had some big results whilst clearly going though a transition from a counter attacking team when Ole first joined, to a more front foot, possession based team and now moving towards a more attack focused 433, the football we've seen in the last 2 and a half years is definitely an upgrade on everything we've seen post Fergie.
Some people have really short memories, there have been far more high quality goals, moments and games than you are giving us credit for. It isn't Liverpool of a couple of years ago but mediocre is unfair, we've been more entertaining than we have for a while and that's whilst using a significantly higher number of home grown and academy players than our rivals put together. That means something to me, might not to everyone but British talent should be a core of our club and we're no slouches in that regard.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
United's size and finance will always attract players, that's a fact. However, the top players will want to move to teams who are winning trophies and are at the top.
Are United really going to be able to attract the very best players at he moment? Whilst Varane and Sancho are very good players & signings, would they have joined United if Real Madrid weren't in the situation they were in and Dortmund were what they were 7/8 years ago? Probably not.
Could City, Liverpool or Chelsea do this? Probably yes. I can't think many players would turn Man City down at this time and if Chelsea wanted to sign Haaland or Lewandowski, as rumoured, I'm sure they'd get that deal done and obviously Liverpool signed Thiago last summer from the European Champions and arguably best team in Europe at the time as well.
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Oh yes we can. United are still a big draw
posted on 26/7/21
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posted on 26/7/21
Paying people £350,000 per week will generally attract players. Not exactly a secret is it.
It's hugely likely Sancho will be at Utd long after Ole has left anyway, got little to nothing to do with him.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Robb - Ashes prediction 5-0 (U22311)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
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comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 minutes ago
No. No it did not, they were just 'one offs' that meant nothing in the bigger picture.
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They certainly do not mean "nothing in the bigger picture".
They were the managers who won you trophies and ultimately the top players will want to move to a side that can/will win trophies because that's what every player wants.
Every season United don't win a trophy it just makes it all the more difficult to attract the very best players, as the very best players want to win trophies and consistently.
At least United were winning trophies under LVG and Jose, that will always attract players to the club. Yes, they might not be the very best players because of where you were in the table at the time (particularly under LVG), but you will always attract players when winning trophies. It's also very good at retaining top players as well. Imagine if United didn't win those trophies and then suddenly players like Rashford, De Gea etc want to move on because they want to win trophies. Kane at Spurs is the perfect example.
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Does it though? We've been a laughing stock for almost a decade apparently. You think Sancho is signing because LVG won an FA cup? Or Varane was impressed by our display in Europa under Jose? I imagine it's more because they feel there is an opportunity to win things in the future less than joining because of our recent trophy hauls.
The team Ole has put together, coupled with the club's history and financial power means we're more attractive than opposition fans will have you believe (and a chunk of our own,to be fair).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club that is United and your finances, not only for the player, but for also strengthening in the future makes United attractive and always will. Lets not pretend that it has anything to do with anything Ole is putting together. United play mediocre football and have struggled to do anything of note in the biggest comps under him.
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Yep. I’d imagine Sancho and Varane would have signed for us whoever the manager was. I doubt they really care about the Ole vision. They probably think there’s a very real chance he’s almost a ‘caretaker’ manager of sorts before we can bring in a top one. They’re at United because it’s United and the money is huge. Not for some mythical Ole dream.
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Sancho has already mentioned Ole as a reason he's joined Robb try harder.
Varane will too no doubt.
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They’re just stock words anyone uses when joining a new club. If Ole was sacked tomorrow Jadon would t lose an ounce of sleep. He’s here because we were the only ones that would pay what Dortmund wanted and give him huuuuge wages. And I’m fine with that but let’s not pretend it was the Ole factor that swung it. Even you Mr Culer can’t wum your way into believing that.
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So Sancho did indeed mention Ole as a reason then Robb?
Yeah I thought so too. You've been proven wrong.
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Would you like to buy some snake oil?
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You clearly contradicted yourself by admitting Sancho referred to Ole as a reason for joining.
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I said I doubt the new players really care about the Ole vision. You said that Sancho said Ole was part of the reason. And guess what, I still doubt it. What Sancho said are just stock words that every player uses for every manager at every club they join. I’m sure the Chelsea players said the same about Lampard when they joined and when he was sacked for Tuchel lost about as much sleep as Dunks mum did when he came out.
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I don't need snake oil. No snakes in Manchester mate, you better buy some though. Australia is rife with them right? Let's hope a poisonous one doesn't sneak into your bed tonight and bite you for all the bad things you've said about Ole...
posted on 26/7/21
We also pay transfer fees that very few clubs can, or are willing to pay. I think it’s four of the five most expensive transfers in England were made by us.
Obviously we can’t sign anyone we want, and the success of those transfers is another matter, but we pay fees and wages that even Chelsea and City haven’t been willing to pay.
It’s why Fred, Sanchez and Maguire ended up Old Trafford rather than the Etihad. United have a lot of power in the transfer market. More so than we did under Fergie, we didn’t have the financial capability to make someone like City back down.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 10 seconds ago
We also pay transfer fees that very few clubs can, or are willing to pay. I think it’s four of the five most expensive transfers in England were made by us.
Obviously we can’t sign anyone we want, and the success of those transfers is another matter, but we pay fees and wages that even Chelsea and City haven’t been willing to pay.
It’s why Fred, Sanchez and Maguire ended up Old Trafford rather than the Etihad. United have a lot of power in the transfer market. More so than we did under Fergie, we didn’t have the financial capability to make someone like City back down.
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Ole is a huge factor behind the Sancho and Varane signings. If he couldn't convince them they'd go elsewhere. End of story.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 10 seconds ago
We also pay transfer fees that very few clubs can, or are willing to pay. I think it’s four of the five most expensive transfers in England were made by us.
Obviously we can’t sign anyone we want, and the success of those transfers is another matter, but we pay fees and wages that even Chelsea and City haven’t been willing to pay.
It’s why Fred, Sanchez and Maguire ended up Old Trafford rather than the Etihad. United have a lot of power in the transfer market. More so than we did under Fergie, we didn’t have the financial capability to make someone like City back down.
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Ole is a huge factor behind the Sancho and Varane signings. If he couldn't convince them they'd go elsewhere. End of story.
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Oh shush. It;s because a) Utd would pay the fee and b) they are being paid an enormous amount.
Sancho will likely be at Utd for at least 5 years where as it is highly unlikely Ole will. You're talking nonsense again.
posted on 26/7/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 10 seconds ago
We also pay transfer fees that very few clubs can, or are willing to pay. I think it’s four of the five most expensive transfers in England were made by us.
Obviously we can’t sign anyone we want, and the success of those transfers is another matter, but we pay fees and wages that even Chelsea and City haven’t been willing to pay.
It’s why Fred, Sanchez and Maguire ended up Old Trafford rather than the Etihad. United have a lot of power in the transfer market. More so than we did under Fergie, we didn’t have the financial capability to make someone like City back down.
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Ole is a huge factor behind the Sancho and Varane signings. If he couldn't convince them they'd go elsewhere. End of story.
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Oh shush. It;s because a) Utd would pay the fee and b) they are being paid an enormous amount.
Sancho will likely be at Utd for at least 5 years where as it is highly unlikely Ole will. You're talking nonsense again.
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Point B is wrong. Madrid/Juve/PSG/City would pay him a huge amount so why didn't he go there? He'd walk into the City side over Mahrez or Sterling. Same at PSG with Di Maria. Juve too and Madrid.
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