Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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posted 0 seconds ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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Lo celso - 1 goal, 3 assists, 47 PL apps
N dombele - 5 goals, 4 assists, 54 PL apps
So the lazy fack has actually made more appearances than the great lo celso and contributed far more. All while being a younger player who plays in a deeper position
Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 48 seconds ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Well his "best" is not good enough is it? He has been pants since he signed and yet is excused because he "tracks back" even though he doesn't contribute. The same tracking back and lack of contribution that bergwijn gets lambasted for?
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posted 20 minutes ago
I didn’t understand why Spurs fans were so happy at the time. It was a lot of money spent, without really addressing the issues in the squad.
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We had made no signings the previous two windows. We were just buzzing we signed someone, anyone!!
Many of us pointed the finger at Levy for making no signings the summer before but it could have been Poch's idea too. He never really complained about it. He got away scott free because of the consistency he installed in the team. He had so much credit in the bank he was immune from criticitism.
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Poch's idea for making no signings? Good one.
Why do you think he talked about the club needing to show more ambition?
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Yeah and when push came to shove he signed 4 players who didn't address anything.
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The club signed them. How much input he had in them is unknown. As he will attest to, it wasn't that much seemingly, as he complained about only being a coach rather than a manager.
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If you think the club signed 4 players without his input after signing no one the previous 2 windows you are in cuckoo land.
Levy "By the way Poch, I am breaking our record transfer fee on Ndombele. You crack on mate". Come on !!
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Yeah he might well have wanted him, who knows. We just don't know how much is down to him and how much is forced on him. Like the Sissoko example above I gave. We needed to bulk up the midfield and didn't get any of our targets. Poch would have been given a choice of sign Sissoko at the last minute or have nobody. I guess he'd rather have somebody than nobody.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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posted 48 seconds ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Well his "best" is not good enough is it? He has been pants since he signed and yet is excused because he "tracks back" even though he doesn't contribute. The same tracking back and lack of contribution that bergwijn gets lambasted for?
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I like the way you have diverted the conversation from Ndombele to GLC and now Bergwijn. No one is praising either player but they do show signs of what they can do when they are fit or given a chance. The day of judgement for both of them is coming lol.
Ndombele when signed had alot of posters including youself gassing him up. More than GLC and Bergwijn.
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Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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Poch did.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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He has just given birth as well. #NeverForget.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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posted 5 minutes ago
Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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Poch did.
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Worked out well for him as well. Gets to coach Messi, Neymar and Mbappe now.
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posted 5 minutes ago
Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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Poch did.
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Actually Poch wanted him, but the club in their usual fashion didn't put up enough of an offer to tempt Sporting into selling him. If you want to blame anyone choose Levy.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Well his "best" is not good enough is it? He has been pants since he signed and yet is excused because he "tracks back" even though he doesn't contribute. The same tracking back and lack of contribution that bergwijn gets lambasted for?
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I like the way you have diverted the conversation from Ndombele to GLC and now Bergwijn. No one is praising either player but they do show signs of what they can do when they are fit or given a chance. The day of judgement for both of them is coming lol.
Ndombele when signed had alot of posters including youself gassing him up. More than GLC and Bergwijn.
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Thing is Ndombele is far better than any midfielder at the whole club so of course i was gassed and want him to do well. As others have said, if you spend 50m or whatever on a player then you do ur best to make it work. Especially if you are a club that can't afford to waste money like that.
We will never know fully whats happened behind the scenes but i think people forget how young he was - he was 22 when he joined which is a baby still - in a foreign country, with 4 managers over his time here etc etc. Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and im sure where he goes he will succeed
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Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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Poch did.
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Worked out well for him as well. Gets to coach Messi, Neymar and Mbappe now.
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He has a DoF and oil money which always helps
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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That’s not true. Dier and Winks are white and they get loads of shiiit
In fact quite a few fans have given NDombele the benefit of the doubt since he’s been here. I know I’ve defended him from Mourinho etc because of his obvious talent. However he really doesn’t seem to help himself with his perceived laziness.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Well his "best" is not good enough is it? He has been pants since he signed and yet is excused because he "tracks back" even though he doesn't contribute. The same tracking back and lack of contribution that bergwijn gets lambasted for?
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I like the way you have diverted the conversation from Ndombele to GLC and now Bergwijn. No one is praising either player but they do show signs of what they can do when they are fit or given a chance. The day of judgement for both of them is coming lol.
Ndombele when signed had alot of posters including youself gassing him up. More than GLC and Bergwijn.
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Thing is Ndombele is far better than any midfielder at the whole club so of course i was gassed and want him to do well. As others have said, if you spend 50m or whatever on a player then you do ur best to make it work. Especially if you are a club that can't afford to waste money like that.
We will never know fully whats happened behind the scenes but i think people forget how young he was - he was 22 when he joined which is a baby still - in a foreign country, with 4 managers over his time here etc etc. Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and im sure where he goes he will succeed
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If he goes to Bayern, just like the others who have left he will probably win the treble in his first season lol
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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That’s not true. Dier and Winks are white and they get loads of shiiit
In fact quite a few fans have given NDombele the benefit of the doubt since he’s been here. I know I’ve defended him from Mourinho etc because of his obvious talent. However he really doesn’t seem to help himself with his perceived laziness.
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I want to Nuno to take him for a run in the park. Jose got the best our of him when he did that.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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That’s not true. Dier and Winks are white and they get loads of shiiit
In fact quite a few fans have given NDombele the benefit of the doubt since he’s been here. I know I’ve defended him from Mourinho etc because of his obvious talent. However he really doesn’t seem to help himself with his perceived laziness.
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You've got more patience than me.
Spurtle’s worse than Wahl with Mourinho.
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Spurtle’s worse than Wahl with Mourinho.
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Hardly.
It's just the narrative from you and Luka is that Poch is to blame for missing out on Fernandes. Clearly not true:
https://talksport.com/football/831674/bruno-fernandes-man-utd-transfer-tottenham/
It didn’t happen, though, and Sporting Lisbon president Frederico Varandas was candid on the reasons.
“It was ‘impossible’ to retain Bruno Fernandes, but we did it,” he told Sporting’s official website.
“We prepared for his sale by putting a fair price on his worth, and we had bids, but only a serious offer from Tottenham that was €45m plus €20m in add-ons; winning the Premier League and the Champions League.
“Finding these add-ons difficult, I decided not to accept.”
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posted 3 minutes ago
Our damage was already done in my eyes doing fack all in terms of transfers for a year and a half, that one summer we never could have done everything we needed, of course we could have done better but the decline had already begun.
Ps couldn't give a fack about arsenal
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Exactly this and then hiring Mourinho which set us back another 2 seasons or light years in terms of football
I mean the idea from Levy to put add ons of 20m Euros for Spurs winning the PL and CL is hilarious in itself.
That was after signing Lo Celso and Ndombele. If he’d have prioritised the better player we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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That’s not true. Dier and Winks are white and they get loads of shiiit
In fact quite a few fans have given NDombele the benefit of the doubt since he’s been here. I know I’ve defended him from Mourinho etc because of his obvious talent. However he really doesn’t seem to help himself with his perceived laziness.
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Well you can't say whether it is true or not, it is subjective and in my opinion they are.
Key thing you missed there is that i said "quicker". Of course white players get stick too. Everyone does. In MY opinion though, people get onto black players far quicker than the white ones
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posted on 21/8/21
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
posted on 21/8/21
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 48 seconds ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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Lo celso - 1 goal, 3 assists, 47 PL apps
N dombele - 5 goals, 4 assists, 54 PL apps
So the lazy fack has actually made more appearances than the great lo celso and contributed far more. All while being a younger player who plays in a deeper position
posted on 21/8/21
Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Well his "best" is not good enough is it? He has been pants since he signed and yet is excused because he "tracks back" even though he doesn't contribute. The same tracking back and lack of contribution that bergwijn gets lambasted for?
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I didn’t understand why Spurs fans were so happy at the time. It was a lot of money spent, without really addressing the issues in the squad.
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We had made no signings the previous two windows. We were just buzzing we signed someone, anyone!!
Many of us pointed the finger at Levy for making no signings the summer before but it could have been Poch's idea too. He never really complained about it. He got away scott free because of the consistency he installed in the team. He had so much credit in the bank he was immune from criticitism.
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Poch's idea for making no signings? Good one.
Why do you think he talked about the club needing to show more ambition?
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Yeah and when push came to shove he signed 4 players who didn't address anything.
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The club signed them. How much input he had in them is unknown. As he will attest to, it wasn't that much seemingly, as he complained about only being a coach rather than a manager.
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If you think the club signed 4 players without his input after signing no one the previous 2 windows you are in cuckoo land.
Levy "By the way Poch, I am breaking our record transfer fee on Ndombele. You crack on mate". Come on !!
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Yeah he might well have wanted him, who knows. We just don't know how much is down to him and how much is forced on him. Like the Sissoko example above I gave. We needed to bulk up the midfield and didn't get any of our targets. Poch would have been given a choice of sign Sissoko at the last minute or have nobody. I guess he'd rather have somebody than nobody.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Well his "best" is not good enough is it? He has been pants since he signed and yet is excused because he "tracks back" even though he doesn't contribute. The same tracking back and lack of contribution that bergwijn gets lambasted for?
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I like the way you have diverted the conversation from Ndombele to GLC and now Bergwijn. No one is praising either player but they do show signs of what they can do when they are fit or given a chance. The day of judgement for both of them is coming lol.
Ndombele when signed had alot of posters including youself gassing him up. More than GLC and Bergwijn.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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Poch did.
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Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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He has just given birth as well. #NeverForget.
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comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 5 minutes ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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Poch did.
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Worked out well for him as well. Gets to coach Messi, Neymar and Mbappe now.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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Poch did.
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Actually Poch wanted him, but the club in their usual fashion didn't put up enough of an offer to tempt Sporting into selling him. If you want to blame anyone choose Levy.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 48 seconds ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Well his "best" is not good enough is it? He has been pants since he signed and yet is excused because he "tracks back" even though he doesn't contribute. The same tracking back and lack of contribution that bergwijn gets lambasted for?
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I like the way you have diverted the conversation from Ndombele to GLC and now Bergwijn. No one is praising either player but they do show signs of what they can do when they are fit or given a chance. The day of judgement for both of them is coming lol.
Ndombele when signed had alot of posters including youself gassing him up. More than GLC and Bergwijn.
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Thing is Ndombele is far better than any midfielder at the whole club so of course i was gassed and want him to do well. As others have said, if you spend 50m or whatever on a player then you do ur best to make it work. Especially if you are a club that can't afford to waste money like that.
We will never know fully whats happened behind the scenes but i think people forget how young he was - he was 22 when he joined which is a baby still - in a foreign country, with 4 managers over his time here etc etc. Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and im sure where he goes he will succeed
posted on 21/8/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Thank fack you chose those two over Bruno.
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Poch did.
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Worked out well for him as well. Gets to coach Messi, Neymar and Mbappe now.
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He has a DoF and oil money which always helps
posted on 21/8/21
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 5 minutes ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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That’s not true. Dier and Winks are white and they get loads of shiiit
In fact quite a few fans have given NDombele the benefit of the doubt since he’s been here. I know I’ve defended him from Mourinho etc because of his obvious talent. However he really doesn’t seem to help himself with his perceived laziness.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS #FreePalestine (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 48 seconds ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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You can excuse a player for injuries but there is no excuse if you have all the talent in the world with no desire or commitment.
When GLC is fit he tracks back and plays to his best. Can you say the same about Ndombele? Ndombele costs more as well so there is always going to be more pressure on him.
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Well his "best" is not good enough is it? He has been pants since he signed and yet is excused because he "tracks back" even though he doesn't contribute. The same tracking back and lack of contribution that bergwijn gets lambasted for?
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I like the way you have diverted the conversation from Ndombele to GLC and now Bergwijn. No one is praising either player but they do show signs of what they can do when they are fit or given a chance. The day of judgement for both of them is coming lol.
Ndombele when signed had alot of posters including youself gassing him up. More than GLC and Bergwijn.
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Thing is Ndombele is far better than any midfielder at the whole club so of course i was gassed and want him to do well. As others have said, if you spend 50m or whatever on a player then you do ur best to make it work. Especially if you are a club that can't afford to waste money like that.
We will never know fully whats happened behind the scenes but i think people forget how young he was - he was 22 when he joined which is a baby still - in a foreign country, with 4 managers over his time here etc etc. Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and im sure where he goes he will succeed
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If he goes to Bayern, just like the others who have left he will probably win the treble in his first season lol
posted on 21/8/21
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 5 minutes ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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That’s not true. Dier and Winks are white and they get loads of shiiit
In fact quite a few fans have given NDombele the benefit of the doubt since he’s been here. I know I’ve defended him from Mourinho etc because of his obvious talent. However he really doesn’t seem to help himself with his perceived laziness.
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I want to Nuno to take him for a run in the park. Jose got the best our of him when he did that.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 5 minutes ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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That’s not true. Dier and Winks are white and they get loads of shiiit
In fact quite a few fans have given NDombele the benefit of the doubt since he’s been here. I know I’ve defended him from Mourinho etc because of his obvious talent. However he really doesn’t seem to help himself with his perceived laziness.
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You've got more patience than me.
posted on 21/8/21
Spurtle’s worse than Wahl with Mourinho.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
Spurtle’s worse than Wahl with Mourinho.
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Hardly.
It's just the narrative from you and Luka is that Poch is to blame for missing out on Fernandes. Clearly not true:
https://talksport.com/football/831674/bruno-fernandes-man-utd-transfer-tottenham/
It didn’t happen, though, and Sporting Lisbon president Frederico Varandas was candid on the reasons.
“It was ‘impossible’ to retain Bruno Fernandes, but we did it,” he told Sporting’s official website.
“We prepared for his sale by putting a fair price on his worth, and we had bids, but only a serious offer from Tottenham that was €45m plus €20m in add-ons; winning the Premier League and the Champions League.
“Finding these add-ons difficult, I decided not to accept.”
posted on 21/8/21
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 minutes ago
Our damage was already done in my eyes doing fack all in terms of transfers for a year and a half, that one summer we never could have done everything we needed, of course we could have done better but the decline had already begun.
Ps couldn't give a fack about arsenal
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Exactly this and then hiring Mourinho which set us back another 2 seasons or light years in terms of football
posted on 21/8/21
I mean the idea from Levy to put add ons of 20m Euros for Spurs winning the PL and CL is hilarious in itself.
posted on 21/8/21
That was after signing Lo Celso and Ndombele. If he’d have prioritised the better player we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
posted on 21/8/21
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by South Side (U20009)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Anne is ruled out on medical grounds (U8366)
posted 5 minutes ago
Lo celso has been far worse than ndombele and gets off absolutely scott free. He is always injured also and cost a huge sum of money.
47 league appearances, 1 measly goal. Not sure on assists but probably not any more than 3.
As always fans decide to find a scapegoat... ndombele has been hated on from literally day 1!
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He's been hated on since day 1? Where is all this namby-pamby way of looking things coming from with lads these days. He hasn't been loved enough, the club haven't helped him as much as they should. Why can't you just call it out for what it is?
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Namby-pamby 😂😂 wtf are you on about. Are you some old fashioned guy who doesn't believe that mental health is a thing, players should play every minute, players are not real humans and shouldn't have issues?
Call it what it is - covert racism? The black players are always gotten onto far quicker than white players in England.
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That’s not true. Dier and Winks are white and they get loads of shiiit
In fact quite a few fans have given NDombele the benefit of the doubt since he’s been here. I know I’ve defended him from Mourinho etc because of his obvious talent. However he really doesn’t seem to help himself with his perceived laziness.
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Well you can't say whether it is true or not, it is subjective and in my opinion they are.
Key thing you missed there is that i said "quicker". Of course white players get stick too. Everyone does. In MY opinion though, people get onto black players far quicker than the white ones
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