comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 47 minutes ago
Donny is a lovely footballer. Thankfully it sounds like his agent has bullied ole into giving him the gametime he deserves

Loolkng forward to him proving you doubters wrong.
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More likely he has bulked up a bit and adapted a little more to the pl

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More likely.than what the agent has told us as fact?
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Where did he say he'd bullied Ole?

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 24 minutes ago
He deserves a fair crack. He earnt that when he agreed to join us.
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He does deserve a fair crack and Ole obviously intends to give him one if he's kept him. However, he also has to force those chances in training and then take them when he plays. He did ok last season, but nothing more. That's not going to be enough to displace Bruno or Pogba.
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He doesnt have to displace them. We play 3 in midfield.
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How many times has ole played him as a DM?

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 hours, 34 minutes ago
last season he actually made 7 appearances when he played the full 90 minutes, and a further 11 when he played 45 minutes or more.

so 18 reasonably full appearances isn't quite the "5 minutes here, 10 minutes there" idea that some people seem to have...to be honest it's the idea i had before looking up the numbers, presumably because he hasn't really made a huge impression when he has played.

i'd be interested to know what he was told before joining - just as i'd be interested to know what we told pogba before playing him in a midfield two with fellaini in his first few matches - but from the outside this doesn't look great.

given how we didn't sign sancho last summer, but then splashed £30m on two kids as second prize, it is tempting to conclude that we weren't really targeting donny, but couldn't do our proper business, so just picked him up when his madrid move fell through.
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7 full 90 minutes in about 70 games lol. I think his average pl minutes we’re 26 minutes per appearance.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 hours, 34 minutes ago
last season he actually made 7 appearances when he played the full 90 minutes, and a further 11 when he played 45 minutes or more.

so 18 reasonably full appearances isn't quite the "5 minutes here, 10 minutes there" idea that some people seem to have...to be honest it's the idea i had before looking up the numbers, presumably because he hasn't really made a huge impression when he has played.

i'd be interested to know what he was told before joining - just as i'd be interested to know what we told pogba before playing him in a midfield two with fellaini in his first few matches - but from the outside this doesn't look great.

given how we didn't sign sancho last summer, but then splashed £30m on two kids as second prize, it is tempting to conclude that we weren't really targeting donny, but couldn't do our proper business, so just picked him up when his madrid move fell through.
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7 full 90 minutes in about 70 games lol. I think his average pl minutes we’re 26 minutes per appearance.
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Slight exaggeration there. The point being he did start some games but didn't do enough to keep his place

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 51 minutes ago
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7 full 90 minutes in about 70 games lol. I think his average pl minutes we’re 26 minutes per appearance.
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well we didn't play 70 games last season did we, but since you appear to be here to act like a d!ck, rather than to debate anything, then i'll leave you to it

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 47 minutes ago
Donny is a lovely footballer. Thankfully it sounds like his agent has bullied ole into giving him the gametime he deserves

Loolkng forward to him proving you doubters wrong.
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More likely he has bulked up a bit and adapted a little more to the pl

----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely.than what the agent has told us as fact?
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Where did he say he'd bullied Ole?
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We stated that Donny is not a Carabao Cup player, or FA Cup player, or to play only in European games. Donny went to England to play in the Premier League.

"The way the conversation went this time [with Solskjaer] compared to last summer... things are much more clear now. I have full expectations that Donny will get his chance now"

Ole got bullied into giving assurances

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 47 minutes ago
Donny is a lovely footballer. Thankfully it sounds like his agent has bullied ole into giving him the gametime he deserves

Loolkng forward to him proving you doubters wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely he has bulked up a bit and adapted a little more to the pl

----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely.than what the agent has told us as fact?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where did he say he'd bullied Ole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We stated that Donny is not a Carabao Cup player, or FA Cup player, or to play only in European games. Donny went to England to play in the Premier League.

"The way the conversation went this time [with Solskjaer] compared to last summer... things are much more clear now. I have full expectations that Donny will get his chance now"

Ole got bullied into giving assurances
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Or...

Ole handled things expertly and defused a potentially explosive situation.

Same facts. Different spin.

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 47 minutes ago
Donny is a lovely footballer. Thankfully it sounds like his agent has bullied ole into giving him the gametime he deserves

Loolkng forward to him proving you doubters wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely he has bulked up a bit and adapted a little more to the pl

----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely.than what the agent has told us as fact?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where did he say he'd bullied Ole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We stated that Donny is not a Carabao Cup player, or FA Cup player, or to play only in European games. Donny went to England to play in the Premier League.

"The way the conversation went this time [with Solskjaer] compared to last summer... things are much more clear now. I have full expectations that Donny will get his chance now"

Ole got bullied into giving assurances
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Or Donny bulked up and has now adapted more the the English game, hence Ole is more comfortable in playing him. You know, like the manager has stated? You need to try dealing with reality to avoid making yourself sound so stupid mate.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 3 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 47 minutes ago
Donny is a lovely footballer. Thankfully it sounds like his agent has bullied ole into giving him the gametime he deserves

Loolkng forward to him proving you doubters wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely he has bulked up a bit and adapted a little more to the pl

----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely.than what the agent has told us as fact?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where did he say he'd bullied Ole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We stated that Donny is not a Carabao Cup player, or FA Cup player, or to play only in European games. Donny went to England to play in the Premier League.

"The way the conversation went this time [with Solskjaer] compared to last summer... things are much more clear now. I have full expectations that Donny will get his chance now"

Ole got bullied into giving assurances
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Or...

Ole handled things expertly and defused a potentially explosive situation.

Same facts. Different spin.
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A situation he caused.

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 47 minutes ago
Donny is a lovely footballer. Thankfully it sounds like his agent has bullied ole into giving him the gametime he deserves

Loolkng forward to him proving you doubters wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely he has bulked up a bit and adapted a little more to the pl

----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely.than what the agent has told us as fact?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where did he say he'd bullied Ole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We stated that Donny is not a Carabao Cup player, or FA Cup player, or to play only in European games. Donny went to England to play in the Premier League.

"The way the conversation went this time [with Solskjaer] compared to last summer... things are much more clear now. I have full expectations that Donny will get his chance now"

Ole got bullied into giving assurances
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Or Donny bulked up and has now adapted more the the English game, hence Ole is more comfortable in playing him. You know, like the manager has stated? You need to try dealing with reality to avoid making yourself sound so stupid mate.


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Adapted to the game how?

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 7 minutes ago

Or...

Ole handled things expertly and defused a potentially explosive situation.

Same facts. Different spin.
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A situation he caused.
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You don't know that.

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 47 minutes ago
Donny is a lovely footballer. Thankfully it sounds like his agent has bullied ole into giving him the gametime he deserves

Loolkng forward to him proving you doubters wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely he has bulked up a bit and adapted a little more to the pl

----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely.than what the agent has told us as fact?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where did he say he'd bullied Ole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We stated that Donny is not a Carabao Cup player, or FA Cup player, or to play only in European games. Donny went to England to play in the Premier League.

"The way the conversation went this time [with Solskjaer] compared to last summer... things are much more clear now. I have full expectations that Donny will get his chance now"

Ole got bullied into giving assurances
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Or Donny bulked up and has now adapted more the the English game, hence Ole is more comfortable in playing him. You know, like the manager has stated? You need to try dealing with reality to avoid making yourself sound so stupid mate.


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Adapted to the game how?
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How he has adapted his game/how Ole feels he has adapted his game is irrelevant. The fact is that Ole is more likely to have agreed to play Donny due to the fact he has settled/adapted (I can't remember the exact words) and added muscle rather than because he has been bullied by his agent .

I mean, come on! Did you miss the numerous pundits, ex-players and coaches bemoaning the fact that Ole didn't give Donny a chance last season? Ole didn't give a feck. Now he has suddenly been bullied by an agent?

Like I said earlier, try dealing in reality and people might take you seriously.

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 14 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 24 minutes ago
He deserves a fair crack. He earnt that when he agreed to join us.
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He does deserve a fair crack and Ole obviously intends to give him one if he's kept him. However, he also has to force those chances in training and then take them when he plays. He did ok last season, but nothing more. That's not going to be enough to displace Bruno or Pogba.
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He doesnt have to displace them. We play 3 in midfield.
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Since when do we play a three in midfield?

Isn't that one of the moans on here? That, as a collective with the squad we have, we'd get more out of them using the three in midfield even if it did mean reducing Bruno's output somewhat?

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 5 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 47 minutes ago
Donny is a lovely footballer. Thankfully it sounds like his agent has bullied ole into giving him the gametime he deserves

Loolkng forward to him proving you doubters wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely he has bulked up a bit and adapted a little more to the pl

----------------------------------------------------------------------
More likely.than what the agent has told us as fact?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where did he say he'd bullied Ole?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We stated that Donny is not a Carabao Cup player, or FA Cup player, or to play only in European games. Donny went to England to play in the Premier League.

"The way the conversation went this time [with Solskjaer] compared to last summer... things are much more clear now. I have full expectations that Donny will get his chance now"

Ole got bullied into giving assurances
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Or Donny bulked up and has now adapted more the the English game, hence Ole is more comfortable in playing him. You know, like the manager has stated? You need to try dealing with reality to avoid making yourself sound so stupid mate.


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Adapted to the game how?
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How he has adapted his game/how Ole feels he has adapted his game is irrelevant. The fact is that Ole is more likely to have agreed to play Donny due to the fact he has settled/adapted (I can't remember the exact words) and added muscle rather than because he has been bullied by his agent.

I mean, come on! Did you miss the numerous pundits, ex-players and coaches bemoaning the fact that Ole didn't give Donny a chance last season? Ole didn't give a feck. Now he has suddenly been bullied by an agent?

Like I said earlier, try dealing in reality and people might take you seriously.

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The reality is that Donny hasnt been used. The agent has kicked off and Ole has now given assurances.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 14 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 24 minutes ago
He deserves a fair crack. He earnt that when he agreed to join us.
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He does deserve a fair crack and Ole obviously intends to give him one if he's kept him. However, he also has to force those chances in training and then take them when he plays. He did ok last season, but nothing more. That's not going to be enough to displace Bruno or Pogba.
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He doesnt have to displace them. We play 3 in midfield.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Since when do we play a three in midfield?

Isn't that one of the moans on here? That, as a collective with the squad we have, we'd get more out of them using the three in midfield even if it did mean reducing Bruno's output somewhat?
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Fred, McTom and Pogba are the regular starters in midfield.