Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Wanting to do whats best for the team and actually doing whats best for the team, are two entirely different things.

Ole is right not to use him. The team comes first.

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league

comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
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And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?

Losing away to Istanbul.

Who started in that game?

Donny started in that game.

comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 30 minutes ago
Ole is right not to use him. The team comes first.
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Yawn

comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
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And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?

Losing away to Istanbul.

Who started in that game?

Donny started in that game.
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I think Matic and Mata did as well.’both their goals were Mata errors.

comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
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And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?

Losing away to Istanbul.

Who started in that game?

Donny started in that game.
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Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
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And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?

Losing away to Istanbul.

Who started in that game?

Donny started in that game.
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I think Matic and Mata did as well.’both their goals were Mata errors.

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Yep and I don't see people demanding we drop Bruno for either of them either.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
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And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?

Losing away to Istanbul.

Who started in that game?

Donny started in that game.
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Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.
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Players who have performed and dug the team out of holes repeatedly?

I don't think anybody with a clue would have put Donny in their starting line up that night.

Didn’t VDB play in all 6 CL games last season?

Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.

……..

Genuinely interested to know what your point is here. There were quite a few games during the course of the season we should have won but didn’t.

Apparently his Twitter handle is @donny_beek6, which confirms once and for all that he’s the answer to our DM problems. Get him in, Ole.

Only time will tell if RioFerdy5 can nudge Solskjaer to pick Donny in the #6 role...

comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 1 minute ago
Only time will tell if RioFerdy5 can nudge Solskjaer to pick Donny in the #6 role...
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You might be waiting a while

comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
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And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?

Losing away to Istanbul.

Who started in that game?

Donny started in that game.
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Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.
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Players who have performed and dug the team out of holes repeatedly?

I don't think anybody with a clue would have put Donny in their starting line up that night.
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No, but they might have brought him on as a sub instead of doing nothing.

And no one is saying Bruno should be dropped. It's a squad game.

comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 1 minute ago
Only time will tell if RioFerdy5 can nudge Solskjaer to pick Donny in the #6 role...
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You might be waiting a while
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I'm with you on this. Think the PE Teacher has no confidence in @donny_beek6

comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?

Losing away to Istanbul.

Who started in that game?

Donny started in that game.
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Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Players who have performed and dug the team out of holes repeatedly?

I don't think anybody with a clue would have put Donny in their starting line up that night.
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Which holes were those then? The ones that that led to us winning feck all?

How you can correlate the Istanbul loss to Donny starting, defies logic.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 20 minutes ago
Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.

……..

Genuinely interested to know what your point is here. There were quite a few games during the course of the season we should have won but didn’t.
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My point is, they're both games we should have won and have nothing to do with the team sheets. On paper both games should have been wins for us.

Our biggest problem is coaching, it's as clear as day.

N2

And he's played a fair amount of minutes as a young squad player who has just been brought in from a far less intense league.

Bruno has come up for us so many times late on, I trust him to have a moment of magic on the last ten minutes more than I do Donny as well. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I can see why you would keep your game changers on in a game like that. The players failed more than night than Ole did, though he wasn't faultless by any stretch.

My point is, they're both games we should have won and have nothing to do with the team sheets

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The game in Istanbul had everything to do with the team sheet.

It was a massive mistake from the manager. I said it then.

comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 13 minutes ago
N2

And he's played a fair amount of minutes as a young squad player who has just been brought in from a far less intense league.

Bruno has come up for us so many times late on, I trust him to have a moment of magic on the last ten minutes more than I do Donny as well. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I can see why you would keep your game changers on in a game like that. The players failed more than night than Ole did, though he wasn't faultless by any stretch.
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Well he hasn't played enough, which is why he lost his match sharpness, and then people accuse him of not being good enough.

Why would you take Bruno off? The common sense thing to do would have been to take a defensive player off as they were parking the bus.

I don't know what you expect the players to do when the management goes into a cup final without a plan b, and have no clue how to tweak things to gain an advantage.

For all Ole's supposed great man management, he poorly handled VDB's situation and also Lingard. Both are very capable squad options if used properly, but when you favour Matic - a player that often gets caught napping, and a half fit Sancho instead of players who are fit and ready to prove a point, it shows the reason has nothing to do with football. It is Ironic that for all the improvement he made, Ole himself could the one holding us back not to reach to the next level.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?

Losing away to Istanbul.

Who started in that game?

Donny started in that game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Players who have performed and dug the team out of holes repeatedly?

I don't think anybody with a clue would have put Donny in their starting line up that night.
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Which holes were those then? The ones that that led to us winning feck all?

How you can correlate the Istanbul loss to Donny starting, defies logic.
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Are you really asking me to justify what Bruno has done to win games and help this team out? I'm not going to do that, if you think that, you think that.

If you think that 'defies logic', you're an utter drama queen. The point was fairly obvious, unless you're dim and are taking it in a literal way and that I'm 'blaming him' for that loss. I'll explain....

We're discussing a player in the context that some feel he isn't getting enough playing time. A poster listed exiting the group stages as a reason that Ole is making bad decisions in how many minutes he has given Donny.

I made a very basic quip that he started in a game that was a large reason we went out. Which indicates that us going out of the group stages was not exactly because we didn't give him enough minutes. It wasn't a detailed response, I didn't feel it was necessary but I was clearly wrong.

He played more CL minutes than Pogba and Greenwood and only played a bit less than Fred and McTominay. So I fail to see how his lack of minutes was a reason we went out at the group stages. If anything, I would suggest that if Pogba had the minutes he had, we may well have gone through in the group stages. He also played more minutes than Matic.

Hopefully that clears that one up for you.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
My point is, they're both games we should have won and have nothing to do with the team sheets

…..

The game in Istanbul had everything to do with the team sheet.

It was a massive mistake from the manager. I said it then.
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The individuals put out on that pitch for Utd were better than the individuals in the Istanbul starting 11.