Well, well, .....seems like some of you guys would be happier living where I am...in the US of A.
Now then....what do you all think of the spat between USA and France over submarines?
Your Boris brokered the deal with the Aussies.
It takes nearly 74% to amend the American Constitution.
And yet they’ve managed to it over 35 times, to date.
52% brexit? And you want to make monumental decisions on this result?
I honestly can't blame the Scots for demanding another Union Jack referendum, and I suspect the Irish won't be too far behind. Utter shambles, and that's putting it politely.
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 36 minutes ago
Well, well, .....seems like some of you guys would be happier living where I am...in the US of A.
Now then....what do you all think of the spat between USA and France over submarines?
Your Boris brokered the deal with the Aussies.
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Imagine thinking Boris brokers anything.
He lackeys give him a bunch of ideas, he's picks the ones that will put him in the best light and take all credit. Bonus points if it will annoy the EU and close allies so his brexit chums are happy.
Begging EU workers to come back is unbelievably embarrassing for the UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/24/food-petrol-shortages-brexit-goods-johnson-botched-deal
#ItsBrexitStupid
Don’t worry. Just put your faith in the Tory media. They’re hailing Boris’ triumph of lamb restrictions lifted in the US. Yeh, their favourite meat.
Worth, potentially, an extra £35million to UK gdp over five years, I’ve read. When you dig deep into even the `Torygraph” data it reveals that this will “:potentially” earn each and everyone involve in the lamb export sector “an average of about a Pound Sterling a year.,”
And the media will sell this as a a success story for Global Britain.
And, do I laugh or do I cry, many will raise this flag to defend their brexit vote.
Strange, to be talking about lamb, instead of gammons.
Trying to blame Brexit for everything, we were nearly 100k drivers short before Brexit.
The fuel and food are running short because idiots are panic buying like they did with toilet roll during lockdown.
They go on about unskilled workers missing cos we’re out of the EU, but what about Germany being over 500,000 unskilled workers short and they’re in the EU. Don’t pick and choose what you want to hear.
If it is all down to Brexit as the remoaners like the say, then it shows how reliant we were on other countries to survive and that needs fixing, we need to be more self sufficient.
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 7 minutes ago
Trying to blame Brexit for everything, we were nearly 100k drivers short before Brexit.
The fuel and food are running short because idiots are panic buying like they did with toilet roll during lockdown.
They go on about unskilled workers missing cos we’re out of the EU, but what about Germany being over 500,000 unskilled workers short and they’re in the EU. Don’t pick and choose what you want to hear.
If it is all down to Brexit as the remoaners like the say, then it shows how reliant we were on other countries to survive and that needs fixing, we need to be more self sufficient.
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Poland and Germany do have a shortage of drivers, but they have this amazing concept where they move goods around freely within an economic area. As such, they aren't suffering supply chain issues.
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Trying to blame Brexit for everything, we were nearly 100k drivers short before Brexit.
The fuel and food are running short because idiots are panic buying like they did with toilet roll during lockdown.
They go on about unskilled workers missing cos we’re out of the EU, but what about Germany being over 500,000 unskilled workers short and they’re in the EU. Don’t pick and choose what you want to hear.
If it is all down to Brexit as the remoaners like the say, then it shows how reliant we were on other countries to survive and that needs fixing, we need to be more self sufficient.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Translation:
I'm prepared to go down with the sinking ship known as HMS Brexit. Much better than admitting I'm wrong and getting the 'we told you so'.
😂
We are front page news in three of the big EU countries this morning. We are a laughing stock. We are struggling to get trade deals done, we have crisis with getting food to our stores and petrol because of lack of drivers.
What's the solution? We are going to let in loads of foreign workers on a special visa. 😂😂😂
Isn't it funny when you're made to look like absolute idiots like we said you would. You didn't understand what you were voting for and instead of being man about it you'd rather ride it all the way down to the bottom. Good luck.
Short term solution is to pay higher wages to bring more local hauliers into the fray since your Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has rejected immigration as the solution (source: BBC).
Got told that one way I could save money during the disgusting 60% ride in my gas bill is to only bath my kids once a week.
70’s? More like post war.
I have always felt sorry for those that voted brexit. They swallowed lies from proven liars like boris, give and farage
It was genius really. A brainwashing. I’m amazed at boris. He is literally bomb proof. I think he could stab the queen, p1ss on the union
Jack and still win an election .
This country is ruined now. God knows what state it will be for my kids.
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
Short term solution is to pay higher wages to bring more local hauliers into the fray since your Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has rejected immigration as the solution (source: BBC).
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Given the deficit it wouldn't work short term
The other issue is it doesn't fix supply chain issues caused by Brexit redtape
comment by Sharteta (U19684)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
Short term solution is to pay higher wages to bring more local hauliers into the fray since your Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has rejected immigration as the solution (source: BBC).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Given the deficit it wouldn't work short term
The other issue is it doesn't fix supply chain issues caused by Brexit redtape
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Plus the fact that retails won’t / can’t absorb the additional costs, meaning prices will go up even further.
No so much a driver shortage as an excess of logistics companies unwilling to pay decent wages.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
No so much a driver shortage as an excess of logistics companies unwilling to pay decent wages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where do you think the costs for such wages go?
It’s overly simplistic and I say it, stupid.
Take the example of EVCS the chilled distributor that’s gone into receivership, that supplies Sainsburys and Asda.
Supermarkets in the UK are notorious for :
Keeping drivers waiting
Putting penalties in place for late arrivals, even if 15 mins
Only paying invoices after 90 days
The margins made in transport are literally 2-3%.
So if supermarkets will not absorb the extra costs and pass to the consumer the transport companies will cease to serve them, as unable to make it viable.
Guess you’d be happy for your weekly shop to cost an extra £5 ?
Red 👍
Very easy to say ‘pay drivers more money then’. But it’ll be shoppers that foot the bill for doing so.
So many smug posters in here. There will have been many, many people that voted for Brexit purely to spite the condescending know-it-alls such as yourselves. Not saying that's a sensible reason to vote for something but you should be careful how you engage with others of different viewpoints as you will alienate them further and drive them to the opposite extreme by being arrogant and smug.
I voted Brexit for left-wing concerns about the undercutting of worker's wages, multi-nationals using Ireland for example as a tax haven, and at the time I thought Corbyn had a chance of winning an election and I believe he would have overseen Brexit in a much more humane, considered way - but we're all racist idiots who believed that bus slogan right?
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
Drivers and in fact almost anyone who's not already on excellent wages should get a pay rise. Rents and housing prices should be regulated.
These are all great things but it's not a short term fix or something the Tory government would even consider, in fact they'd do everything they could to stop that sort of thing
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 5 minutes ago
So many smug posters in here. There will have been many, many people that voted for Brexit purely to spite the condescending know-it-alls such as yourselves. Not saying that's a sensible reason to vote for something but you should be careful how you engage with others of different viewpoints as you will alienate them further and drive them to the opposite extreme by being arrogant and smug.
I voted Brexit for left-wing concerns about the undercutting of worker's wages, multi-nationals using Ireland for example as a tax haven, and at the time I thought Corbyn had a chance of winning an election and I believe he would have overseen Brexit in a much more humane, considered way - but we're all racist idiots who believed that bus slogan right?
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Undercutting of workers wages was down to companies being happy enough to pay their workers absolute pennies for hard labour, has feck all to do with the EU.
There’s a farm in Lincolnshire that was advertising a broccoli picking job yesterday for ‘up to £30’ an hour. Why wasn’t this farm advertising this sort of wage before? Because they’re desperate for staff.
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comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Trying to blame Brexit for everything, we were nearly 100k drivers short before Brexit.
The fuel and food are running short because idiots are panic buying like they did with toilet roll during lockdown.
They go on about unskilled workers missing cos we’re out of the EU, but what about Germany being over 500,000 unskilled workers short and they’re in the EU. Don’t pick and choose what you want to hear.
If it is all down to Brexit as the remoaners like the say, then it shows how reliant we were on other countries to survive and that needs fixing, we need to be more self sufficient.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Translation:
I'm prepared to go down with the sinking ship known as HMS Brexit. Much better than admitting I'm wrong and getting the 'we told you so'.
😂
We are front page news in three of the big EU countries this morning. We are a laughing stock. We are struggling to get trade deals done, we have crisis with getting food to our stores and petrol because of lack of drivers.
What's the solution? We are going to let in loads of foreign workers on a special visa. 😂😂😂
Isn't it funny when you're made to look like absolute idiots like we said you would. You didn't understand what you were voting for and instead of being man about it you'd rather ride it all the way down to the bottom. Good luck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are literally the same as the person you're mocking for 'going down with the ship' - you're so tied to your ideology that nothing will sway your viewpoint.
And yet you're no expert on any of it. You've been suckered in by the media's self-serving hyperbole and a day or two of people queueing for fuel and you think we've entered a Mad Max apocalypse due to Brexit and Brexit alone.
Your comment reeks of someone who desperately wants the country to go to the wall, just so they can be 'right' - it's childish, and every time you say this to a Brexit voter in such a self-sure, arrogant way (despite being a random bod on an anonymous internet forum) you probably reaffirm their belief 100x over. So you're actually contributing to the thing that gets you frothing at the mouth 24/7. And the doomer cycle continues.
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 5 minutes ago
So many smug posters in here. There will have been many, many people that voted for Brexit purely to spite the condescending know-it-alls such as yourselves. Not saying that's a sensible reason to vote for something but you should be careful how you engage with others of different viewpoints as you will alienate them further and drive them to the opposite extreme by being arrogant and smug.
I voted Brexit for left-wing concerns about the undercutting of worker's wages, multi-nationals using Ireland for example as a tax haven, and at the time I thought Corbyn had a chance of winning an election and I believe he would have overseen Brexit in a much more humane, considered way - but we're all racist idiots who believed that bus slogan right?
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Undercutting of workers wages was down to companies being happy enough to pay their workers absolute pennies for hard labour, has feck all to do with the EU.
There’s a farm in Lincolnshire that was advertising a broccoli picking job yesterday for ‘up to £30’ an hour. Why wasn’t this farm advertising this sort of wage before? Because they’re desperate for staff.
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I have zero sympathy for that farm as they would have been exploiting European workers and paying them the bare minimum for years and years and now they're having to up the wage to try and recruit local people, and so they should.
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 5 minutes ago
So many smug posters in here. There will have been many, many people that voted for Brexit purely to spite the condescending know-it-alls such as yourselves. Not saying that's a sensible reason to vote for something but you should be careful how you engage with others of different viewpoints as you will alienate them further and drive them to the opposite extreme by being arrogant and smug.
I voted Brexit for left-wing concerns about the undercutting of worker's wages, multi-nationals using Ireland for example as a tax haven, and at the time I thought Corbyn had a chance of winning an election and I believe he would have overseen Brexit in a much more humane, considered way - but we're all racist idiots who believed that bus slogan right?
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Undercutting of workers wages was down to companies being happy enough to pay their workers absolute pennies for hard labour, has feck all to do with the EU.
There’s a farm in Lincolnshire that was advertising a broccoli picking job yesterday for ‘up to £30’ an hour. Why wasn’t this farm advertising this sort of wage before? Because they’re desperate for staff.
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I have zero sympathy for that farm as they would have been exploiting European workers and paying them the bare minimum for years and years and now they're having to up the wage to try and recruit local people, and so they should.
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Good, so it’s got nothing to die with the EU but the poverty wages this country offers to people.
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 2 minutes ago
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
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You keep telling yourself that whilst you pretend that you didn’t sell your “left wing “ soul to a rabidly right wing xenophobic project that will only make money for hedge funds and Tory party donors whilst ushering in the worst and most corrupt Tory party ever.
So, yeah, I could see that and I would’ve told you so.
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I didn't sell my soul ffs. I agree that the architects of Brexit are right wing xenophobes but the concept isn't. The EU is nothing more than a series of trade deals, tax breaks for mega-corporations, and bureaucrats paying themselves handsomely to have a say in other country's affairs. It doesn't affect your personal acceptance of other cultures/nations whether we're in or out of it and it doesn't make you racist if you voted for it.
There is a true left wing argument for Brexit (i.e. genuinely liberal, not the middle class, guardian reading left wing most people refer to) involving devolving power as much as possible, reducing the opportunity for companies to exploit workers, and developing for self-sufficiency as it's better for the planet.
Do I expect the Tories to implement any of that? Definitely not, but the electoral landscape looked a lot different around/after the Brexit vote and there was some hope with Corbyn. You had no idea how it would all turn out, just like everyone else had no idea other than what you'd read in your favourite 'news' source, so you can't be smug now
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posted on 25/9/21
Well, well, .....seems like some of you guys would be happier living where I am...in the US of A.
Now then....what do you all think of the spat between USA and France over submarines?
Your Boris brokered the deal with the Aussies.
posted on 25/9/21
It takes nearly 74% to amend the American Constitution.
And yet they’ve managed to it over 35 times, to date.
52% brexit? And you want to make monumental decisions on this result?
posted on 25/9/21
I honestly can't blame the Scots for demanding another Union Jack referendum, and I suspect the Irish won't be too far behind. Utter shambles, and that's putting it politely.
posted on 25/9/21
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 36 minutes ago
Well, well, .....seems like some of you guys would be happier living where I am...in the US of A.
Now then....what do you all think of the spat between USA and France over submarines?
Your Boris brokered the deal with the Aussies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine thinking Boris brokers anything.
He lackeys give him a bunch of ideas, he's picks the ones that will put him in the best light and take all credit. Bonus points if it will annoy the EU and close allies so his brexit chums are happy.
Begging EU workers to come back is unbelievably embarrassing for the UK.
posted on 25/9/21
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/24/food-petrol-shortages-brexit-goods-johnson-botched-deal
#ItsBrexitStupid
posted on 25/9/21
Don’t worry. Just put your faith in the Tory media. They’re hailing Boris’ triumph of lamb restrictions lifted in the US. Yeh, their favourite meat.
Worth, potentially, an extra £35million to UK gdp over five years, I’ve read. When you dig deep into even the `Torygraph” data it reveals that this will “:potentially” earn each and everyone involve in the lamb export sector “an average of about a Pound Sterling a year.,”
And the media will sell this as a a success story for Global Britain.
And, do I laugh or do I cry, many will raise this flag to defend their brexit vote.
Strange, to be talking about lamb, instead of gammons.
posted on 25/9/21
Trying to blame Brexit for everything, we were nearly 100k drivers short before Brexit.
The fuel and food are running short because idiots are panic buying like they did with toilet roll during lockdown.
They go on about unskilled workers missing cos we’re out of the EU, but what about Germany being over 500,000 unskilled workers short and they’re in the EU. Don’t pick and choose what you want to hear.
If it is all down to Brexit as the remoaners like the say, then it shows how reliant we were on other countries to survive and that needs fixing, we need to be more self sufficient.
posted on 25/9/21
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 7 minutes ago
Trying to blame Brexit for everything, we were nearly 100k drivers short before Brexit.
The fuel and food are running short because idiots are panic buying like they did with toilet roll during lockdown.
They go on about unskilled workers missing cos we’re out of the EU, but what about Germany being over 500,000 unskilled workers short and they’re in the EU. Don’t pick and choose what you want to hear.
If it is all down to Brexit as the remoaners like the say, then it shows how reliant we were on other countries to survive and that needs fixing, we need to be more self sufficient.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poland and Germany do have a shortage of drivers, but they have this amazing concept where they move goods around freely within an economic area. As such, they aren't suffering supply chain issues.
posted on 25/9/21
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Trying to blame Brexit for everything, we were nearly 100k drivers short before Brexit.
The fuel and food are running short because idiots are panic buying like they did with toilet roll during lockdown.
They go on about unskilled workers missing cos we’re out of the EU, but what about Germany being over 500,000 unskilled workers short and they’re in the EU. Don’t pick and choose what you want to hear.
If it is all down to Brexit as the remoaners like the say, then it shows how reliant we were on other countries to survive and that needs fixing, we need to be more self sufficient.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Translation:
I'm prepared to go down with the sinking ship known as HMS Brexit. Much better than admitting I'm wrong and getting the 'we told you so'.
😂
We are front page news in three of the big EU countries this morning. We are a laughing stock. We are struggling to get trade deals done, we have crisis with getting food to our stores and petrol because of lack of drivers.
What's the solution? We are going to let in loads of foreign workers on a special visa. 😂😂😂
Isn't it funny when you're made to look like absolute idiots like we said you would. You didn't understand what you were voting for and instead of being man about it you'd rather ride it all the way down to the bottom. Good luck.
posted on 25/9/21
Short term solution is to pay higher wages to bring more local hauliers into the fray since your Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has rejected immigration as the solution (source: BBC).
posted on 25/9/21
Got told that one way I could save money during the disgusting 60% ride in my gas bill is to only bath my kids once a week.
70’s? More like post war.
I have always felt sorry for those that voted brexit. They swallowed lies from proven liars like boris, give and farage
It was genius really. A brainwashing. I’m amazed at boris. He is literally bomb proof. I think he could stab the queen, p1ss on the union
Jack and still win an election .
This country is ruined now. God knows what state it will be for my kids.
posted on 25/9/21
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
Short term solution is to pay higher wages to bring more local hauliers into the fray since your Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has rejected immigration as the solution (source: BBC).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Given the deficit it wouldn't work short term
The other issue is it doesn't fix supply chain issues caused by Brexit redtape
posted on 25/9/21
comment by Sharteta (U19684)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by LustyMonc (U22632)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
Short term solution is to pay higher wages to bring more local hauliers into the fray since your Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has rejected immigration as the solution (source: BBC).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Given the deficit it wouldn't work short term
The other issue is it doesn't fix supply chain issues caused by Brexit redtape
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Plus the fact that retails won’t / can’t absorb the additional costs, meaning prices will go up even further.
posted on 25/9/21
No so much a driver shortage as an excess of logistics companies unwilling to pay decent wages.
posted on 25/9/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
No so much a driver shortage as an excess of logistics companies unwilling to pay decent wages.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where do you think the costs for such wages go?
It’s overly simplistic and I say it, stupid.
Take the example of EVCS the chilled distributor that’s gone into receivership, that supplies Sainsburys and Asda.
Supermarkets in the UK are notorious for :
Keeping drivers waiting
Putting penalties in place for late arrivals, even if 15 mins
Only paying invoices after 90 days
The margins made in transport are literally 2-3%.
posted on 25/9/21
So if supermarkets will not absorb the extra costs and pass to the consumer the transport companies will cease to serve them, as unable to make it viable.
Guess you’d be happy for your weekly shop to cost an extra £5 ?
posted on 25/9/21
Red 👍
Very easy to say ‘pay drivers more money then’. But it’ll be shoppers that foot the bill for doing so.
posted on 25/9/21
So many smug posters in here. There will have been many, many people that voted for Brexit purely to spite the condescending know-it-alls such as yourselves. Not saying that's a sensible reason to vote for something but you should be careful how you engage with others of different viewpoints as you will alienate them further and drive them to the opposite extreme by being arrogant and smug.
I voted Brexit for left-wing concerns about the undercutting of worker's wages, multi-nationals using Ireland for example as a tax haven, and at the time I thought Corbyn had a chance of winning an election and I believe he would have overseen Brexit in a much more humane, considered way - but we're all racist idiots who believed that bus slogan right?
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
posted on 25/9/21
Drivers and in fact almost anyone who's not already on excellent wages should get a pay rise. Rents and housing prices should be regulated.
These are all great things but it's not a short term fix or something the Tory government would even consider, in fact they'd do everything they could to stop that sort of thing
posted on 25/9/21
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 5 minutes ago
So many smug posters in here. There will have been many, many people that voted for Brexit purely to spite the condescending know-it-alls such as yourselves. Not saying that's a sensible reason to vote for something but you should be careful how you engage with others of different viewpoints as you will alienate them further and drive them to the opposite extreme by being arrogant and smug.
I voted Brexit for left-wing concerns about the undercutting of worker's wages, multi-nationals using Ireland for example as a tax haven, and at the time I thought Corbyn had a chance of winning an election and I believe he would have overseen Brexit in a much more humane, considered way - but we're all racist idiots who believed that bus slogan right?
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Undercutting of workers wages was down to companies being happy enough to pay their workers absolute pennies for hard labour, has feck all to do with the EU.
There’s a farm in Lincolnshire that was advertising a broccoli picking job yesterday for ‘up to £30’ an hour. Why wasn’t this farm advertising this sort of wage before? Because they’re desperate for staff.
posted on 25/9/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 25/9/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Trying to blame Brexit for everything, we were nearly 100k drivers short before Brexit.
The fuel and food are running short because idiots are panic buying like they did with toilet roll during lockdown.
They go on about unskilled workers missing cos we’re out of the EU, but what about Germany being over 500,000 unskilled workers short and they’re in the EU. Don’t pick and choose what you want to hear.
If it is all down to Brexit as the remoaners like the say, then it shows how reliant we were on other countries to survive and that needs fixing, we need to be more self sufficient.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Translation:
I'm prepared to go down with the sinking ship known as HMS Brexit. Much better than admitting I'm wrong and getting the 'we told you so'.
😂
We are front page news in three of the big EU countries this morning. We are a laughing stock. We are struggling to get trade deals done, we have crisis with getting food to our stores and petrol because of lack of drivers.
What's the solution? We are going to let in loads of foreign workers on a special visa. 😂😂😂
Isn't it funny when you're made to look like absolute idiots like we said you would. You didn't understand what you were voting for and instead of being man about it you'd rather ride it all the way down to the bottom. Good luck.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are literally the same as the person you're mocking for 'going down with the ship' - you're so tied to your ideology that nothing will sway your viewpoint.
And yet you're no expert on any of it. You've been suckered in by the media's self-serving hyperbole and a day or two of people queueing for fuel and you think we've entered a Mad Max apocalypse due to Brexit and Brexit alone.
Your comment reeks of someone who desperately wants the country to go to the wall, just so they can be 'right' - it's childish, and every time you say this to a Brexit voter in such a self-sure, arrogant way (despite being a random bod on an anonymous internet forum) you probably reaffirm their belief 100x over. So you're actually contributing to the thing that gets you frothing at the mouth 24/7. And the doomer cycle continues.
posted on 25/9/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 5 minutes ago
So many smug posters in here. There will have been many, many people that voted for Brexit purely to spite the condescending know-it-alls such as yourselves. Not saying that's a sensible reason to vote for something but you should be careful how you engage with others of different viewpoints as you will alienate them further and drive them to the opposite extreme by being arrogant and smug.
I voted Brexit for left-wing concerns about the undercutting of worker's wages, multi-nationals using Ireland for example as a tax haven, and at the time I thought Corbyn had a chance of winning an election and I believe he would have overseen Brexit in a much more humane, considered way - but we're all racist idiots who believed that bus slogan right?
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Undercutting of workers wages was down to companies being happy enough to pay their workers absolute pennies for hard labour, has feck all to do with the EU.
There’s a farm in Lincolnshire that was advertising a broccoli picking job yesterday for ‘up to £30’ an hour. Why wasn’t this farm advertising this sort of wage before? Because they’re desperate for staff.
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I have zero sympathy for that farm as they would have been exploiting European workers and paying them the bare minimum for years and years and now they're having to up the wage to try and recruit local people, and so they should.
posted on 25/9/21
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
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comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 5 minutes ago
So many smug posters in here. There will have been many, many people that voted for Brexit purely to spite the condescending know-it-alls such as yourselves. Not saying that's a sensible reason to vote for something but you should be careful how you engage with others of different viewpoints as you will alienate them further and drive them to the opposite extreme by being arrogant and smug.
I voted Brexit for left-wing concerns about the undercutting of worker's wages, multi-nationals using Ireland for example as a tax haven, and at the time I thought Corbyn had a chance of winning an election and I believe he would have overseen Brexit in a much more humane, considered way - but we're all racist idiots who believed that bus slogan right?
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
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Undercutting of workers wages was down to companies being happy enough to pay their workers absolute pennies for hard labour, has feck all to do with the EU.
There’s a farm in Lincolnshire that was advertising a broccoli picking job yesterday for ‘up to £30’ an hour. Why wasn’t this farm advertising this sort of wage before? Because they’re desperate for staff.
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I have zero sympathy for that farm as they would have been exploiting European workers and paying them the bare minimum for years and years and now they're having to up the wage to try and recruit local people, and so they should.
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Good, so it’s got nothing to die with the EU but the poverty wages this country offers to people.
posted on 25/9/21
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 2 minutes ago
The data shows 20% of the 100k HGV drivers we are short on in the UK is due to the missing foreign drivers. The other 80% is covid-related and the decades long trend towards the transport industry needing young people to replace the old but not getting the uptake they want. So that's not really down to Brexit is it?
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You keep telling yourself that whilst you pretend that you didn’t sell your “left wing “ soul to a rabidly right wing xenophobic project that will only make money for hedge funds and Tory party donors whilst ushering in the worst and most corrupt Tory party ever.
So, yeah, I could see that and I would’ve told you so.
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I didn't sell my soul ffs. I agree that the architects of Brexit are right wing xenophobes but the concept isn't. The EU is nothing more than a series of trade deals, tax breaks for mega-corporations, and bureaucrats paying themselves handsomely to have a say in other country's affairs. It doesn't affect your personal acceptance of other cultures/nations whether we're in or out of it and it doesn't make you racist if you voted for it.
There is a true left wing argument for Brexit (i.e. genuinely liberal, not the middle class, guardian reading left wing most people refer to) involving devolving power as much as possible, reducing the opportunity for companies to exploit workers, and developing for self-sufficiency as it's better for the planet.
Do I expect the Tories to implement any of that? Definitely not, but the electoral landscape looked a lot different around/after the Brexit vote and there was some hope with Corbyn. You had no idea how it would all turn out, just like everyone else had no idea other than what you'd read in your favourite 'news' source, so you can't be smug now
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