Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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You have heard of this little thing called Covid....it may make it very difficult to splurge like teams used too.
Whole club is hot mess, Conte will miss out on winning anything and move on
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 13 seconds ago
Kane's main issue is that he want to LEAVE Spurs, not because of Nuno or Jose or any manager. His issue is with the club/chairmen and i don't think getting another top manager in, is going to change him wanting to leave the club.
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No it's not. He doesn't want to leave Spurs, he wants to win trophies, which is more likely elsewhere. If he could do it with us he'd prefer it. With Conte and investment, that prospect changes but it's a big leap of faith. Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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It's basically the same thing, he's not winning the big trophies at Spurs anyway, whether Conte is there or not. Do you think he'll wait for 2-3 years, hoping Spurs come good? i can't see you lot challenging for much before that.
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How do you know? It puts us in a much stronger position. If we were to win the Conference League plus one of the FA or League Cup this season, that's silverware and probably enough to convince him to stick around.
I just think maybe you're bitter that we've got one the elite managers now.
To suggest Kane will go regardless is ridiculous. If we win, he won't.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 13 seconds ago
Kane's main issue is that he want to LEAVE Spurs, not because of Nuno or Jose or any manager. His issue is with the club/chairmen and i don't think getting another top manager in, is going to change him wanting to leave the club.
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No it's not. He doesn't want to leave Spurs, he wants to win trophies, which is more likely elsewhere. If he could do it with us he'd prefer it. With Conte and investment, that prospect changes but it's a big leap of faith. Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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It's basically the same thing, he's not winning the big trophies at Spurs anyway, whether Conte is there or not. Do you think he'll wait for 2-3 years, hoping Spurs come good? i can't see you lot challenging for much before that.
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That trophy line is BS. There's no guarantee you'll win a trophy...higher probability maybe but no guarantee. So a better line should be he wants to compete for the best trophies.
City might end up with no trophies this season. Then what would he say? He's depressed?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 2 minutes ago
Frankly, I think Kane gets too much of a free pass for the way he's behaved at the back end of last season and for how he's performed this season. People are always putting caveats or mitigating circumstances when they speak about him. It's a load of BS.
Fabregas did something similar and, as much as I loved him as a player, the way he behaved when he wanted to leave really faacked me off, so I couldn't wait for him to go in the end.
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Kane's one of our own and if we match his ambition he will stay. He could see what all the fans were seeing that we are in decline and to arrest that decline we get Nuno inHe has given a massive amount to the club and I just think he lost faith and when that happens its hard to maintain levels.
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I know he's given a lot to you, but like I said, he wasn't forced to sign a 6-year contract with no exit clause. He chose to do that.
And let's not forget that Kane has been part of this decline as well.
He has clearly tried to be a bit cunning with how to engineer a move away this Summer, but it didn't work, Levy didn't budge and a large section of your fans were rightly annoyed with him for not being honest enough to say 'I want to leave'.
I'm sorry, but you cannot defend his unprofessional behaviour. That interview with Neville should have been the turning point.
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 16 seconds ago
Whole club is hot mess, Conte will miss out on winning anything and move on
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🤣 why so salty?
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 53 seconds ago
Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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Investments can be made based on projected earnings. If further lockdowns are avoided as they surely are, the increased revenue from the stadium allows us to invest more heavily in the squad. There's no way Conte signs without assurances on transfer spend figures. No way.
I have no animus towards Kane. He’s only human and if he felt the club broke their world to him and he didn’t get the move he wanted it’s only human for him to not be in the right head space. It would have been better for everyone if the club tried to negotiate with City and have come to a deal. But he’s still here and hopefully the Conte appointment helps motivate him again.
It just shows that in the modern game the players and agents are the power brokers
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 19 minutes ago
Frankly, I think Kane gets too much of a free pass for the way he's behaved at the back end of last season and for how he's performed this season. People are always putting caveats or mitigating circumstances when they speak about him. It's a load of BS.
Fabregas did something similar and, as much as I loved him as a player, the way he behaved when he wanted to leave really faacked me off, so I couldn't wait for him to go in the end.
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Let’s face it the only caveat is the money he is potentially worth. Racism, Kung fu kicks, drink driving, gas cooker parties all forgiven in the beautiful game if there’s money to be lost.
I agree with the OP.
Kane only has himself to blame for hiring his facking brother as an agent and signing a 6 year deal.
I was disappointed he went on strike, but don't really blame him. The club have been a complete shambles for a couple of years and even his best could only get us 7th last year.
I fully expect him to get back on form now. Nuno's tactics were clearly part of the reason he has offered nothing this season.
If we get top 4 he may even want to stay long term.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 53 seconds ago
Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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Investments can be made based on projected earnings. If further lockdowns are avoided as they surely are, the increased revenue from the stadium allows us to invest more heavily in the squad. There's no way Conte signs without assurances on transfer spend figures. No way.
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Lol, this is Levy. He'll have no problem back tracking on any assurances made.
Have a bunch of Arsenal fans collectively decided to start sticking their nose in on debates on the Spurs board. It feel like you lot are just on a wind up for the sake of it.
Maybe Kane will leave, maybe Levy won't invest but both are less likely to happen now we've got Conte on board. It's a game changer and no rival club fans cynical baiting is going to change that.
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 16 seconds ago
Whole club is hot mess, Conte will miss out on winning anything and move on
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🤣 why so salty?
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Think he’s been dining on sour grapes with a bitter lemon chaser!
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 15 minutes ago
Have a bunch of Arsenal fans collectively decided to start sticking their nose in on debates on the Spurs board. It feel like you lot are just on a wind up for the sake of it.
Maybe Kane will leave, maybe Levy won't invest but both are less likely to happen now we've got Conte on board. It's a game changer and no rival club fans cynical baiting is going to change that.
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It’s called panic, loads of them were looking forward to gloating after Saturday after they finally managed to nudge ahead of the worst Spurs side most fans have seen in 2 decades.
Instead of being a massive downer, it’s probably the best 3-0 loss the club has suffered and we will be eternally grateful to Ole.
They are now collectively shiiietting themselves as they know they won’t be finishing ahead of us for the 6th and then likely the 7th year in a row.
Still, Trust the Process Gooners
In their hearts Arsenal and United fans know this is the appointment they will have wanted for their own club.
Everyone is delighted that Ole remains at the wheel, except Utd fans. And Arsenal fans know that Arteta is not the long term answer.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 12 minutes ago
In their hearts Arsenal and United fans know this is the appointment they will have wanted for their own club.
Everyone is delighted that Ole remains at the wheel, except Utd fans. And Arsenal fans know that Arteta is not the long term answer.
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Just to be clear, Arteta is also not the Short or Medium term answer
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posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
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Goes both ways. Some clubs have been hit due to a lack of income so need to sell, and may sell cheaper than pre Covid
I think a lot of it comes down to belief. I think Arteta probably is a good manager, I bet Ole does have the nous to do the job and I bet deep down Nuno also knows what he's talking about but if the players don't believe in you, you've got no chance. If any doubt creeps in, the effort drops off, players ignore instructions and the whole message is lost. I think even with Jose, a lot of the players will have respected him but found his time at United a potential doubt about his credentials in the modern game. It didn't take long for Dele to feel like he was the 'Shaw' or 'Pogba' at Spurs. Same for a few others.
If everyone is in full belief of the manager's process, as I'm sure the Spurs boys will be under Conte, they'll do well. It's about listening, not being precious and absorbing everything, good and bad. I think luck can play its part in building that aura. If you stumble on the right team at the right time people tend to label a manager invincible and the attraction grows. For instance, I don't actually think Ferguson did anything you'd consider to be truly remarkable from a management perspective at United. He was brilliant but the difference would have been fine margins. He did well to build his first PL winning team in 1992, then the young lads took over at the aura was built. Anyone coming in from around 1995-6 onwards wouldn't have needed much in the way of coaching. The determination, motivation and standards would have been understood the moment you walk through the door. Ferguson's job was done for him. He owes a lot to the class of 1992. They would have set the tone for the standards and most of them stayed there for their entire careers. Fergie could have easily been sacked in 1989/90 and that red mark on his CV would have then informed the players in his next job that it could go wrong. Luck is a major factor.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a lot of it comes down to belief. I think Arteta probably is a good manager, I bet Ole does have the nous to do the job and I bet deep down Nuno also knows what he's talking about but if the players don't believe in you, you've got no chance. If any doubt creeps in, the effort drops off, players ignore instructions and the whole message is lost. I think even with Jose, a lot of the players will have respected him but found his time at United a potential doubt about his credentials in the modern game. It didn't take long for Dele to feel like he was the 'Shaw' or 'Pogba' at Spurs. Same for a few others.
If everyone is in full belief of the manager's process, as I'm sure the Spurs boys will be under Conte, they'll do well. It's about listening, not being precious and absorbing everything, good and bad. I think luck can play its part in building that aura. If you stumble on the right team at the right time people tend to label a manager invincible and the attraction grows. For instance, I don't actually think Ferguson did anything you'd consider to be truly remarkable from a management perspective at United. He was brilliant but the difference would have been fine margins. He did well to build his first PL winning team in 1992, then the young lads took over at the aura was built. Anyone coming in from around 1995-6 onwards wouldn't have needed much in the way of coaching. The determination, motivation and standards would have been understood the moment you walk through the door. Ferguson's job was done for him. He owes a lot to the class of 1992. They would have set the tone for the standards and most of them stayed there for their entire careers. Fergie could have easily been sacked in 1989/90 and that red mark on his CV would have then informed the players in his next job that it could go wrong. Luck is a major factor.
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Agreed, Jose had that red mark against his name from his time at United and the players never truly bought in.
Conte has no red marks - the players must know that if Levy stumps up then it will be them that the anger turns towards if it is not successful.
They no longer have anywhere to hide and I bloody love it
Kane hasn’t ever downed tools, he is just out of fitness and form in a team that hasn’t created anything substantial in the league. When Kane isn’t at 90-100% due to his frame/stature he looks way worse than he is.
This happens almost every year though and people still raise the same questions and worries each year and then it clicks and he goes back to his best again.
He is allowed to be disappointed, he has still since his return been a professional putting in the work same as he has every season.
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a lot of it comes down to belief. I think Arteta probably is a good manager, I bet Ole does have the nous to do the job and I bet deep down Nuno also knows what he's talking about but if the players don't believe in you, you've got no chance. If any doubt creeps in, the effort drops off, players ignore instructions and the whole message is lost. I think even with Jose, a lot of the players will have respected him but found his time at United a potential doubt about his credentials in the modern game. It didn't take long for Dele to feel like he was the 'Shaw' or 'Pogba' at Spurs. Same for a few others.
If everyone is in full belief of the manager's process, as I'm sure the Spurs boys will be under Conte, they'll do well. It's about listening, not being precious and absorbing everything, good and bad. I think luck can play its part in building that aura. If you stumble on the right team at the right time people tend to label a manager invincible and the attraction grows. For instance, I don't actually think Ferguson did anything you'd consider to be truly remarkable from a management perspective at United. He was brilliant but the difference would have been fine margins. He did well to build his first PL winning team in 1992, then the young lads took over at the aura was built. Anyone coming in from around 1995-6 onwards wouldn't have needed much in the way of coaching. The determination, motivation and standards would have been understood the moment you walk through the door. Ferguson's job was done for him. He owes a lot to the class of 1992. They would have set the tone for the standards and most of them stayed there for their entire careers. Fergie could have easily been sacked in 1989/90 and that red mark on his CV would have then informed the players in his next job that it could go wrong. Luck is a major factor.
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Agreed, Jose had that red mark against his name from his time at United and the players never truly bought in.
Conte has no red marks - the players must know that if Levy stumps up then it will be them that the anger turns towards if it is not successful.
They no longer have anywhere to hide and I bloody love it
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Yep, and I think it failed, on the whole, to work out at United as the players there were probably swayed by his final year in his second spell at Chelsea. That was the first time he'd publicly attacked within, blaming individual players for defeats and probably most damaging of all, a needless attack on a well-liked female physio. Respect was lost for him then and it's followed him throughout his career.
You could argue that Conte lost the dressing room in his final year at Chelsea but I think that had more to do with the hierarchy than individuals. He strikes me as the type to sulk if he's not given what he needs which could be a worry going forward. The players will undoubtedly follow him to the letter though. I think we're about to find out this squad's true ceiling as I think they've been playing beneath themselves for about 3 years now.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
Kane hasn’t ever downed tools, he is just out of fitness and form in a team that hasn’t created anything substantial in the league. When Kane isn’t at 90-100% due to his frame/stature he looks way worse than he is.
This happens almost every year though and people still raise the same questions and worries each year and then it clicks and he goes back to his best again.
He is allowed to be disappointed, he has still since his return been a professional putting in the work same as he has every season.
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With surprisingly poor results.
Must be a coincidence.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a lot of it comes down to belief. I think Arteta probably is a good manager, I bet Ole does have the nous to do the job and I bet deep down Nuno also knows what he's talking about but if the players don't believe in you, you've got no chance. If any doubt creeps in, the effort drops off, players ignore instructions and the whole message is lost. I think even with Jose, a lot of the players will have respected him but found his time at United a potential doubt about his credentials in the modern game. It didn't take long for Dele to feel like he was the 'Shaw' or 'Pogba' at Spurs. Same for a few others.
If everyone is in full belief of the manager's process, as I'm sure the Spurs boys will be under Conte, they'll do well. It's about listening, not being precious and absorbing everything, good and bad. I think luck can play its part in building that aura. If you stumble on the right team at the right time people tend to label a manager invincible and the attraction grows. For instance, I don't actually think Ferguson did anything you'd consider to be truly remarkable from a management perspective at United. He was brilliant but the difference would have been fine margins. He did well to build his first PL winning team in 1992, then the young lads took over at the aura was built. Anyone coming in from around 1995-6 onwards wouldn't have needed much in the way of coaching. The determination, motivation and standards would have been understood the moment you walk through the door. Ferguson's job was done for him. He owes a lot to the class of 1992. They would have set the tone for the standards and most of them stayed there for their entire careers. Fergie could have easily been sacked in 1989/90 and that red mark on his CV would have then informed the players in his next job that it could go wrong. Luck is a major factor.
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Agreed, Jose had that red mark against his name from his time at United and the players never truly bought in.
Conte has no red marks - the players must know that if Levy stumps up then it will be them that the anger turns towards if it is not successful.
They no longer have anywhere to hide and I bloody love it
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Yep, and I think it failed, on the whole, to work out at United as the players there were probably swayed by his final year in his second spell at Chelsea. That was the first time he'd publicly attacked within, blaming individual players for defeats and probably most damaging of all, a needless attack on a well-liked female physio. Respect was lost for him then and it's followed him throughout his career.
You could argue that Conte lost the dressing room in his final year at Chelsea but I think that had more to do with the hierarchy than individuals. He strikes me as the type to sulk if he's not given what he needs which could be a worry going forward. The players will undoubtedly follow him to the letter though. I think we're about to find out this squad's true ceiling as I think they've been playing beneath themselves for about 3 years now.
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Yeah I don’t think Conte lost the dressing room At Chelsea, he lost the boardroom. I’m fine with that as we know he gets on very well with Paratici and they know how to work together, so if Levy stays out of things and signs the cheques when he is told to, then we won’t have any bother.
It was the same for Conte at Inter, he left because not only could they not improve the squad but they also needed to sell - we are very unlikely to be in that position
Still, as long as he bucks up his ideas, starts playing well and banging them in again, he will be quickly forgiven and his legacy less tarnished.
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posted on 3/11/21
Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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You have heard of this little thing called Covid....it may make it very difficult to splurge like teams used too.
posted on 3/11/21
Whole club is hot mess, Conte will miss out on winning anything and move on
posted on 3/11/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 13 seconds ago
Kane's main issue is that he want to LEAVE Spurs, not because of Nuno or Jose or any manager. His issue is with the club/chairmen and i don't think getting another top manager in, is going to change him wanting to leave the club.
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No it's not. He doesn't want to leave Spurs, he wants to win trophies, which is more likely elsewhere. If he could do it with us he'd prefer it. With Conte and investment, that prospect changes but it's a big leap of faith. Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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It's basically the same thing, he's not winning the big trophies at Spurs anyway, whether Conte is there or not. Do you think he'll wait for 2-3 years, hoping Spurs come good? i can't see you lot challenging for much before that.
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How do you know? It puts us in a much stronger position. If we were to win the Conference League plus one of the FA or League Cup this season, that's silverware and probably enough to convince him to stick around.
I just think maybe you're bitter that we've got one the elite managers now.
To suggest Kane will go regardless is ridiculous. If we win, he won't.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 13 seconds ago
Kane's main issue is that he want to LEAVE Spurs, not because of Nuno or Jose or any manager. His issue is with the club/chairmen and i don't think getting another top manager in, is going to change him wanting to leave the club.
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No it's not. He doesn't want to leave Spurs, he wants to win trophies, which is more likely elsewhere. If he could do it with us he'd prefer it. With Conte and investment, that prospect changes but it's a big leap of faith. Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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It's basically the same thing, he's not winning the big trophies at Spurs anyway, whether Conte is there or not. Do you think he'll wait for 2-3 years, hoping Spurs come good? i can't see you lot challenging for much before that.
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That trophy line is BS. There's no guarantee you'll win a trophy...higher probability maybe but no guarantee. So a better line should be he wants to compete for the best trophies.
City might end up with no trophies this season. Then what would he say? He's depressed?
posted on 3/11/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 2 minutes ago
Frankly, I think Kane gets too much of a free pass for the way he's behaved at the back end of last season and for how he's performed this season. People are always putting caveats or mitigating circumstances when they speak about him. It's a load of BS.
Fabregas did something similar and, as much as I loved him as a player, the way he behaved when he wanted to leave really faacked me off, so I couldn't wait for him to go in the end.
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Kane's one of our own and if we match his ambition he will stay. He could see what all the fans were seeing that we are in decline and to arrest that decline we get Nuno inHe has given a massive amount to the club and I just think he lost faith and when that happens its hard to maintain levels.
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I know he's given a lot to you, but like I said, he wasn't forced to sign a 6-year contract with no exit clause. He chose to do that.
And let's not forget that Kane has been part of this decline as well.
He has clearly tried to be a bit cunning with how to engineer a move away this Summer, but it didn't work, Levy didn't budge and a large section of your fans were rightly annoyed with him for not being honest enough to say 'I want to leave'.
I'm sorry, but you cannot defend his unprofessional behaviour. That interview with Neville should have been the turning point.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 16 seconds ago
Whole club is hot mess, Conte will miss out on winning anything and move on
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🤣 why so salty?
posted on 3/11/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 53 seconds ago
Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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You have heard of this little thing called Covid....it may make it very difficult to splurge like teams used too.
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Investments can be made based on projected earnings. If further lockdowns are avoided as they surely are, the increased revenue from the stadium allows us to invest more heavily in the squad. There's no way Conte signs without assurances on transfer spend figures. No way.
posted on 3/11/21
I have no animus towards Kane. He’s only human and if he felt the club broke their world to him and he didn’t get the move he wanted it’s only human for him to not be in the right head space. It would have been better for everyone if the club tried to negotiate with City and have come to a deal. But he’s still here and hopefully the Conte appointment helps motivate him again.
posted on 3/11/21
It just shows that in the modern game the players and agents are the power brokers
posted on 3/11/21
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 19 minutes ago
Frankly, I think Kane gets too much of a free pass for the way he's behaved at the back end of last season and for how he's performed this season. People are always putting caveats or mitigating circumstances when they speak about him. It's a load of BS.
Fabregas did something similar and, as much as I loved him as a player, the way he behaved when he wanted to leave really faacked me off, so I couldn't wait for him to go in the end.
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Let’s face it the only caveat is the money he is potentially worth. Racism, Kung fu kicks, drink driving, gas cooker parties all forgiven in the beautiful game if there’s money to be lost.
posted on 3/11/21
I agree with the OP.
Kane only has himself to blame for hiring his facking brother as an agent and signing a 6 year deal.
I was disappointed he went on strike, but don't really blame him. The club have been a complete shambles for a couple of years and even his best could only get us 7th last year.
I fully expect him to get back on form now. Nuno's tactics were clearly part of the reason he has offered nothing this season.
If we get top 4 he may even want to stay long term.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 53 seconds ago
Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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Investments can be made based on projected earnings. If further lockdowns are avoided as they surely are, the increased revenue from the stadium allows us to invest more heavily in the squad. There's no way Conte signs without assurances on transfer spend figures. No way.
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Lol, this is Levy. He'll have no problem back tracking on any assurances made.
posted on 3/11/21
Have a bunch of Arsenal fans collectively decided to start sticking their nose in on debates on the Spurs board. It feel like you lot are just on a wind up for the sake of it.
Maybe Kane will leave, maybe Levy won't invest but both are less likely to happen now we've got Conte on board. It's a game changer and no rival club fans cynical baiting is going to change that.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 16 seconds ago
Whole club is hot mess, Conte will miss out on winning anything and move on
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🤣 why so salty?
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Think he’s been dining on sour grapes with a bitter lemon chaser!
posted on 3/11/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 15 minutes ago
Have a bunch of Arsenal fans collectively decided to start sticking their nose in on debates on the Spurs board. It feel like you lot are just on a wind up for the sake of it.
Maybe Kane will leave, maybe Levy won't invest but both are less likely to happen now we've got Conte on board. It's a game changer and no rival club fans cynical baiting is going to change that.
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It’s called panic, loads of them were looking forward to gloating after Saturday after they finally managed to nudge ahead of the worst Spurs side most fans have seen in 2 decades.
Instead of being a massive downer, it’s probably the best 3-0 loss the club has suffered and we will be eternally grateful to Ole.
They are now collectively shiiietting themselves as they know they won’t be finishing ahead of us for the 6th and then likely the 7th year in a row.
Still, Trust the Process Gooners
posted on 3/11/21
In their hearts Arsenal and United fans know this is the appointment they will have wanted for their own club.
Everyone is delighted that Ole remains at the wheel, except Utd fans. And Arsenal fans know that Arteta is not the long term answer.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 12 minutes ago
In their hearts Arsenal and United fans know this is the appointment they will have wanted for their own club.
Everyone is delighted that Ole remains at the wheel, except Utd fans. And Arsenal fans know that Arteta is not the long term answer.
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Just to be clear, Arteta is also not the Short or Medium term answer
posted on 3/11/21
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Levy needs to invest like he never has before. If we do that and start picking up a trophy or two, he'll stay.
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You have heard of this little thing called Covid....it may make it very difficult to splurge like teams used too.
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Goes both ways. Some clubs have been hit due to a lack of income so need to sell, and may sell cheaper than pre Covid
posted on 3/11/21
I think a lot of it comes down to belief. I think Arteta probably is a good manager, I bet Ole does have the nous to do the job and I bet deep down Nuno also knows what he's talking about but if the players don't believe in you, you've got no chance. If any doubt creeps in, the effort drops off, players ignore instructions and the whole message is lost. I think even with Jose, a lot of the players will have respected him but found his time at United a potential doubt about his credentials in the modern game. It didn't take long for Dele to feel like he was the 'Shaw' or 'Pogba' at Spurs. Same for a few others.
If everyone is in full belief of the manager's process, as I'm sure the Spurs boys will be under Conte, they'll do well. It's about listening, not being precious and absorbing everything, good and bad. I think luck can play its part in building that aura. If you stumble on the right team at the right time people tend to label a manager invincible and the attraction grows. For instance, I don't actually think Ferguson did anything you'd consider to be truly remarkable from a management perspective at United. He was brilliant but the difference would have been fine margins. He did well to build his first PL winning team in 1992, then the young lads took over at the aura was built. Anyone coming in from around 1995-6 onwards wouldn't have needed much in the way of coaching. The determination, motivation and standards would have been understood the moment you walk through the door. Ferguson's job was done for him. He owes a lot to the class of 1992. They would have set the tone for the standards and most of them stayed there for their entire careers. Fergie could have easily been sacked in 1989/90 and that red mark on his CV would have then informed the players in his next job that it could go wrong. Luck is a major factor.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a lot of it comes down to belief. I think Arteta probably is a good manager, I bet Ole does have the nous to do the job and I bet deep down Nuno also knows what he's talking about but if the players don't believe in you, you've got no chance. If any doubt creeps in, the effort drops off, players ignore instructions and the whole message is lost. I think even with Jose, a lot of the players will have respected him but found his time at United a potential doubt about his credentials in the modern game. It didn't take long for Dele to feel like he was the 'Shaw' or 'Pogba' at Spurs. Same for a few others.
If everyone is in full belief of the manager's process, as I'm sure the Spurs boys will be under Conte, they'll do well. It's about listening, not being precious and absorbing everything, good and bad. I think luck can play its part in building that aura. If you stumble on the right team at the right time people tend to label a manager invincible and the attraction grows. For instance, I don't actually think Ferguson did anything you'd consider to be truly remarkable from a management perspective at United. He was brilliant but the difference would have been fine margins. He did well to build his first PL winning team in 1992, then the young lads took over at the aura was built. Anyone coming in from around 1995-6 onwards wouldn't have needed much in the way of coaching. The determination, motivation and standards would have been understood the moment you walk through the door. Ferguson's job was done for him. He owes a lot to the class of 1992. They would have set the tone for the standards and most of them stayed there for their entire careers. Fergie could have easily been sacked in 1989/90 and that red mark on his CV would have then informed the players in his next job that it could go wrong. Luck is a major factor.
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Agreed, Jose had that red mark against his name from his time at United and the players never truly bought in.
Conte has no red marks - the players must know that if Levy stumps up then it will be them that the anger turns towards if it is not successful.
They no longer have anywhere to hide and I bloody love it
posted on 3/11/21
Kane hasn’t ever downed tools, he is just out of fitness and form in a team that hasn’t created anything substantial in the league. When Kane isn’t at 90-100% due to his frame/stature he looks way worse than he is.
This happens almost every year though and people still raise the same questions and worries each year and then it clicks and he goes back to his best again.
He is allowed to be disappointed, he has still since his return been a professional putting in the work same as he has every season.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a lot of it comes down to belief. I think Arteta probably is a good manager, I bet Ole does have the nous to do the job and I bet deep down Nuno also knows what he's talking about but if the players don't believe in you, you've got no chance. If any doubt creeps in, the effort drops off, players ignore instructions and the whole message is lost. I think even with Jose, a lot of the players will have respected him but found his time at United a potential doubt about his credentials in the modern game. It didn't take long for Dele to feel like he was the 'Shaw' or 'Pogba' at Spurs. Same for a few others.
If everyone is in full belief of the manager's process, as I'm sure the Spurs boys will be under Conte, they'll do well. It's about listening, not being precious and absorbing everything, good and bad. I think luck can play its part in building that aura. If you stumble on the right team at the right time people tend to label a manager invincible and the attraction grows. For instance, I don't actually think Ferguson did anything you'd consider to be truly remarkable from a management perspective at United. He was brilliant but the difference would have been fine margins. He did well to build his first PL winning team in 1992, then the young lads took over at the aura was built. Anyone coming in from around 1995-6 onwards wouldn't have needed much in the way of coaching. The determination, motivation and standards would have been understood the moment you walk through the door. Ferguson's job was done for him. He owes a lot to the class of 1992. They would have set the tone for the standards and most of them stayed there for their entire careers. Fergie could have easily been sacked in 1989/90 and that red mark on his CV would have then informed the players in his next job that it could go wrong. Luck is a major factor.
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Agreed, Jose had that red mark against his name from his time at United and the players never truly bought in.
Conte has no red marks - the players must know that if Levy stumps up then it will be them that the anger turns towards if it is not successful.
They no longer have anywhere to hide and I bloody love it
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Yep, and I think it failed, on the whole, to work out at United as the players there were probably swayed by his final year in his second spell at Chelsea. That was the first time he'd publicly attacked within, blaming individual players for defeats and probably most damaging of all, a needless attack on a well-liked female physio. Respect was lost for him then and it's followed him throughout his career.
You could argue that Conte lost the dressing room in his final year at Chelsea but I think that had more to do with the hierarchy than individuals. He strikes me as the type to sulk if he's not given what he needs which could be a worry going forward. The players will undoubtedly follow him to the letter though. I think we're about to find out this squad's true ceiling as I think they've been playing beneath themselves for about 3 years now.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
Kane hasn’t ever downed tools, he is just out of fitness and form in a team that hasn’t created anything substantial in the league. When Kane isn’t at 90-100% due to his frame/stature he looks way worse than he is.
This happens almost every year though and people still raise the same questions and worries each year and then it clicks and he goes back to his best again.
He is allowed to be disappointed, he has still since his return been a professional putting in the work same as he has every season.
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With surprisingly poor results.
Must be a coincidence.
posted on 3/11/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a lot of it comes down to belief. I think Arteta probably is a good manager, I bet Ole does have the nous to do the job and I bet deep down Nuno also knows what he's talking about but if the players don't believe in you, you've got no chance. If any doubt creeps in, the effort drops off, players ignore instructions and the whole message is lost. I think even with Jose, a lot of the players will have respected him but found his time at United a potential doubt about his credentials in the modern game. It didn't take long for Dele to feel like he was the 'Shaw' or 'Pogba' at Spurs. Same for a few others.
If everyone is in full belief of the manager's process, as I'm sure the Spurs boys will be under Conte, they'll do well. It's about listening, not being precious and absorbing everything, good and bad. I think luck can play its part in building that aura. If you stumble on the right team at the right time people tend to label a manager invincible and the attraction grows. For instance, I don't actually think Ferguson did anything you'd consider to be truly remarkable from a management perspective at United. He was brilliant but the difference would have been fine margins. He did well to build his first PL winning team in 1992, then the young lads took over at the aura was built. Anyone coming in from around 1995-6 onwards wouldn't have needed much in the way of coaching. The determination, motivation and standards would have been understood the moment you walk through the door. Ferguson's job was done for him. He owes a lot to the class of 1992. They would have set the tone for the standards and most of them stayed there for their entire careers. Fergie could have easily been sacked in 1989/90 and that red mark on his CV would have then informed the players in his next job that it could go wrong. Luck is a major factor.
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Agreed, Jose had that red mark against his name from his time at United and the players never truly bought in.
Conte has no red marks - the players must know that if Levy stumps up then it will be them that the anger turns towards if it is not successful.
They no longer have anywhere to hide and I bloody love it
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Yep, and I think it failed, on the whole, to work out at United as the players there were probably swayed by his final year in his second spell at Chelsea. That was the first time he'd publicly attacked within, blaming individual players for defeats and probably most damaging of all, a needless attack on a well-liked female physio. Respect was lost for him then and it's followed him throughout his career.
You could argue that Conte lost the dressing room in his final year at Chelsea but I think that had more to do with the hierarchy than individuals. He strikes me as the type to sulk if he's not given what he needs which could be a worry going forward. The players will undoubtedly follow him to the letter though. I think we're about to find out this squad's true ceiling as I think they've been playing beneath themselves for about 3 years now.
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Yeah I don’t think Conte lost the dressing room At Chelsea, he lost the boardroom. I’m fine with that as we know he gets on very well with Paratici and they know how to work together, so if Levy stays out of things and signs the cheques when he is told to, then we won’t have any bother.
It was the same for Conte at Inter, he left because not only could they not improve the squad but they also needed to sell - we are very unlikely to be in that position
posted on 3/11/21
Still, as long as he bucks up his ideas, starts playing well and banging them in again, he will be quickly forgiven and his legacy less tarnished.
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