comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 4 minutes ago
‘ I think he means season before.’
When they didn’t win anything? When they were put put the cup by the bottom team in the league, and then beaten at home by Hamilton who were by then bottom of the league?!
Fees are just a small part of a budget in any case-wages have increased dramatically since Gerrard arrived.
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no the point being made is that the season you think the league woulda been an objective celtic spent pretty much the same amount on one player (edouard) as gerrard did on his whole squad. There is no way that the league was his objective in first year
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Where have I said at any point the league was the objective-either with rangers or with AV?!
I’ll tell you what though-it’s good to see you saying he’s spent £33 million. I said a couple of weeks ago he’d spent on average about £10 million up until this season and was told it was nowhere near that.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
You are ropey as fck at the back and you know it
Quality teams can and have exploited how open you are.....it might not be happening domestically, but it is certainly happening in Europe
As $hite as Rangers have been defensively this season, no team has put more than 2 goals past us in a single game
2 teams have put 4 past Celtic this season already
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You haven't played any teams of that quality.
These are teams from the top leagues in Europe.
Leverkusen destroyed your lot last season.
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Don't remember them pumping us 4-0 at home
Lyon have more points and have scored more goals than any other team in the Europa League groups so far
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posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't need anyone to tell me, I'm a fan I was there
It was discussed at the AGM in terms of metrics for the season, it would have been madness to bring in a first time Manager inheriting a basket case and put a trophy win in his first season
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When was this AGM you speak of? November/December?
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You tell me, you were probably there.
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Why the sarcasm?
It's a simple question.
You say that the objectives were discussed at am AGM.
By that time I assume that the season was already about a quarter through.
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the objective was to spend less money than celtic and still be better than them before 2021. job done
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Yes that does sound like the sort of thing young master Park would come up with
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posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't need anyone to tell me, I'm a fan I was there
It was discussed at the AGM in terms of metrics for the season, it would have been madness to bring in a first time Manager inheriting a basket case and put a trophy win in his first season
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When was this AGM you speak of? November/December?
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You tell me, you were probably there.
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Why the sarcasm?
It's a simple question.
You say that the objectives were discussed at am AGM.
By that time I assume that the season was already about a quarter through.
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It wasn't sarcasm, just a wee joke. But yes from memory October/November. Regardless think all the evidence you need is ask any Rangers fan what they expected that season and whether a trophy was an objective.
Gerrard had a blank canvas to overhaul the football side and most people expected it would take longer than a couple of years. It's a fairly new thing in football to expect overnight success and I think those at Rangers should be credited for sticking with the process and trusting the decision they made to appoint him.
‘ Gerrard had a blank canvas to overhaul the football side and most people expected it would take longer than a couple of years’
So you’re saying he got some leeway…
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't need anyone to tell me, I'm a fan I was there
It was discussed at the AGM in terms of metrics for the season, it would have been madness to bring in a first time Manager inheriting a basket case and put a trophy win in his first season
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When was this AGM you speak of? November/December?
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You tell me, you were probably there.
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Why the sarcasm?
It's a simple question.
You say that the objectives were discussed at am AGM.
By that time I assume that the season was already about a quarter through.
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the objective was to spend less money than celtic and still be better than them before 2021. job done
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Yes that does sound like the sort of thing young master Park would come up with
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yup, here is a four contract, make u the best in the country before that deals runs out.
how did he get on?
Gerrard has done a good job , he has made progress at Rangers and thats all he was judged on at the start.
. His trophy haul isn't great for a rangers manager but he won the one that mattered most
Im not getting what half of you guys are arguing about tbh ?
ange wont be afforded the same development timescales but we do need to allow him time to build what hes after -
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 26 seconds ago
Gerrard has done a good job , he has made progress at Rangers and thats all he was judged on at the start.
. His trophy haul isn't great for a rangers manager but he won the one that mattered most
Im not getting what half of you guys are arguing about tbh ?
ange wont be afforded the same development timescales but we do need to allow him time to build what hes after -
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thats cos Ange has a bigger budget to work with
1 in 9 is not impressive.
St johnstones cup double is far better and as has been pointed out makes them the second most successful team over that period
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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If u think his remit wasnt "stop 8"
Ok but "stop 9"
Then you're nuts
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 26 seconds ago
Gerrard has done a good job , he has made progress at Rangers and thats all he was judged on at the start.
. His trophy haul isn't great for a rangers manager but he won the one that mattered most
Im not getting what half of you guys are arguing about tbh ?
ange wont be afforded the same development timescales but we do need to allow him time to build what hes after -
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thats cos Ange has a bigger budget to work with
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Hes sold 33M worth of talent and brought in 20M - so thats not the reason
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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Win the league within 2 seasons.
I’d argue our rebuild this summer was bigger than anything Gerrard had to do. Although it’s probably close in terms of in’s and out’s overall for first season, I think we’ll add another 3 and lose 2/3 in January.
Total turnaround of over 30 players in 1 season is what I’d expect it to look like for us come end of January. Mental.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 17 minutes ago
‘ Gerrard had a blank canvas to overhaul the football side and most people expected it would take longer than a couple of years’
So you’re saying he got some leeway…
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No, he got an objective. He met that objective. If he didn't he wouldn't be here anymore. Same with any job.
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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If u think his remit wasnt "stop 8"
Ok but "stop 9"
Then you're nuts
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His remit was to stop the 10
Of course, if he could do it at 8 or 9 even better....but stopping the 10 was the goal
His first season was also going to be transitional
His second season was halted before the end, we narrowly missed out on the league cup, but our form in Europe was excellent and our unbeaten run and dominance in old firm matches had started
Cant stress this enough, a lazy slob who cares more about pints than tactics won 5 trohpies in a year and a half in scotland and we deemed him not good enough.
1 in 9 is not good.
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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Win the league within 2 seasons.
I’d argue our rebuild this summer was bigger than anything Gerrard had to do. Although it’s probably close in terms of in’s and out’s overall for first season, I think we’ll add another 3 and lose 2/3 in January.
Total turnaround of over 30 players in 1 season is what I’d expect it to look like for us come end of January. Mental.
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Interested to see what happens if he fails to deliver the league within the next two years then
As for the rebuild project....I'm sorry, but there is no way the rebuild Ange has on his hands is bigger than what Gerrard had
We were getting absolutely annihilated in old firm games, and we were getting pumped in Europe by part time teams from Luxembourg before Gerrard took over, and he was tasked with overhauling a team that eventually won 4 trebles in a row
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 5 minutes ago
Cant stress this enough, a lazy slob who cares more about pints than tactics won 5 trohpies in a year and a half in scotland and we deemed him not good enough.
1 in 9 is not good.
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He inherited a very good team.....a very good team
Some of the players that made up that team are still at Celtic...and playing better under a manager who isn't a lazy slob
First treble - warburton
Second treble - pedro
Third treble - gerrard
Fourth treble - gerrard
He was doing a grand job, thank god st johnstone took csre of the other 2 trophies seeing as he couldnt manage that
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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Win the league within 2 seasons.
I’d argue our rebuild this summer was bigger than anything Gerrard had to do. Although it’s probably close in terms of in’s and out’s overall for first season, I think we’ll add another 3 and lose 2/3 in January.
Total turnaround of over 30 players in 1 season is what I’d expect it to look like for us come end of January. Mental.
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Interested to see what happens if he fails to deliver the league within the next two years then
As for the rebuild project....I'm sorry, but there is no way the rebuild Ange has on his hands is bigger than what Gerrard had
We were getting absolutely annihilated in old firm games, and we were getting pumped in Europe by part time teams from Luxembourg before Gerrard took over, and he was tasked with overhauling a team that eventually won 4 trebles in a row
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Yeah I'd agree with that. Gerrard inherited guys like Pena, Herrera, Hodson, O'Halloran and Jason Holt who had taken us to third place two seasons running. The most he brought in from that group was £2m for Windass.
Not to say Ange didn't have rebuild but he inherited a far stronger group of players and was able to fund an overhaul within one window because he also inherited strong assets like Christie, Eddy and Ajer who were all moved on.
Gerrard has been allowed to spend a considerable amount more than warburton ever got.
Goldson
Barisic
Katic
Helander
Kent
Roofe
Itten
Hagi
To each their own, if u think 1 in 9 is a good return then fair enough
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 17 minutes ago
‘ Gerrard had a blank canvas to overhaul the football side and most people expected it would take longer than a couple of years’
So you’re saying he got some leeway…
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No, he got an objective. He met that objective. If he didn't he wouldn't be here anymore. Same with any job.
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You should be a politician.
At least he has the leeway to meet these objectives…
I have a feeling gerrards objective would only ever be what he managed to achieve for some people
Was lucky he had morelos those first 2 seasons tbh
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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Win the league within 2 seasons.
I’d argue our rebuild this summer was bigger than anything Gerrard had to do. Although it’s probably close in terms of in’s and out’s overall for first season, I think we’ll add another 3 and lose 2/3 in January.
Total turnaround of over 30 players in 1 season is what I’d expect it to look like for us come end of January. Mental.
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Interested to see what happens if he fails to deliver the league within the next two years then
As for the rebuild project....I'm sorry, but there is no way the rebuild Ange has on his hands is bigger than what Gerrard had
We were getting absolutely annihilated in old firm games, and we were getting pumped in Europe by part time teams from Luxembourg before Gerrard took over, and he was tasked with overhauling a team that eventually won 4 trebles in a row
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Yeah I'd agree with that. Gerrard inherited guys like Pena, Herrera, Hodson, O'Halloran and Jason Holt who had taken us to third place two seasons running. The most he brought in from that group was £2m for Windass.
Not to say Ange didn't have rebuild but he inherited a far stronger group of players and was able to fund an overhaul within one window because he also inherited strong assets like Christie, Eddy and Ajer who were all moved on.
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Ange was left with Barkas, Ralston, Welsh, Biton and Greg Taylor ffs
Edouard, Christie, McGregor and Forrest were the only guys left that was thought would make an impact. Two of them left.
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
Gerrard has been allowed to spend a considerable amount more than warburton ever got.
Goldson
Barisic
Katic
Helander
Kent
Roofe
Itten
Hagi
To each their own, if u think 1 in 9 is a good return then fair enough
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I think Warburton’s biggest expense was Joey Garner at just over a million. He had a much lower wage budget to work within as well. All relative I suppose.
Gerrard may do well at an English team. He’s eventually managed to get success at rangers given the time. Despite league standings, you could see his teams were improving, although I’m still not convinced that in 2020 after the defeat to Hamilton he would have still been in charge after that if the season hadn’t ended the way it did-each to their own.
The concern would be if Beale does go his own way, as according to folk on here, he’s the brains of the outfit.
The AV job is a totally different challenge in a completely different league. Decent job though.
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posted on 8/11/21
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 4 minutes ago
‘ I think he means season before.’
When they didn’t win anything? When they were put put the cup by the bottom team in the league, and then beaten at home by Hamilton who were by then bottom of the league?!
Fees are just a small part of a budget in any case-wages have increased dramatically since Gerrard arrived.
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no the point being made is that the season you think the league woulda been an objective celtic spent pretty much the same amount on one player (edouard) as gerrard did on his whole squad. There is no way that the league was his objective in first year
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Where have I said at any point the league was the objective-either with rangers or with AV?!
I’ll tell you what though-it’s good to see you saying he’s spent £33 million. I said a couple of weeks ago he’d spent on average about £10 million up until this season and was told it was nowhere near that.
posted on 8/11/21
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me... (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
You are ropey as fck at the back and you know it
Quality teams can and have exploited how open you are.....it might not be happening domestically, but it is certainly happening in Europe
As $hite as Rangers have been defensively this season, no team has put more than 2 goals past us in a single game
2 teams have put 4 past Celtic this season already
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You haven't played any teams of that quality.
These are teams from the top leagues in Europe.
Leverkusen destroyed your lot last season.
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Don't remember them pumping us 4-0 at home
Lyon have more points and have scored more goals than any other team in the Europa League groups so far
posted on 8/11/21
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Magnum( proper bears seem to get on OK with me but the wee girly ones get me filtered. Aye even the ones I'm obsessed with) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (U22391)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't need anyone to tell me, I'm a fan I was there
It was discussed at the AGM in terms of metrics for the season, it would have been madness to bring in a first time Manager inheriting a basket case and put a trophy win in his first season
------------------------------------------
When was this AGM you speak of? November/December?
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You tell me, you were probably there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why the sarcasm?
It's a simple question.
You say that the objectives were discussed at am AGM.
By that time I assume that the season was already about a quarter through.
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the objective was to spend less money than celtic and still be better than them before 2021. job done
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Yes that does sound like the sort of thing young master Park would come up with
posted on 8/11/21
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't need anyone to tell me, I'm a fan I was there
It was discussed at the AGM in terms of metrics for the season, it would have been madness to bring in a first time Manager inheriting a basket case and put a trophy win in his first season
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When was this AGM you speak of? November/December?
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You tell me, you were probably there.
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Why the sarcasm?
It's a simple question.
You say that the objectives were discussed at am AGM.
By that time I assume that the season was already about a quarter through.
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It wasn't sarcasm, just a wee joke. But yes from memory October/November. Regardless think all the evidence you need is ask any Rangers fan what they expected that season and whether a trophy was an objective.
Gerrard had a blank canvas to overhaul the football side and most people expected it would take longer than a couple of years. It's a fairly new thing in football to expect overnight success and I think those at Rangers should be credited for sticking with the process and trusting the decision they made to appoint him.
posted on 8/11/21
‘ Gerrard had a blank canvas to overhaul the football side and most people expected it would take longer than a couple of years’
So you’re saying he got some leeway…
posted on 8/11/21
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posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don't need anyone to tell me, I'm a fan I was there
It was discussed at the AGM in terms of metrics for the season, it would have been madness to bring in a first time Manager inheriting a basket case and put a trophy win in his first season
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When was this AGM you speak of? November/December?
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You tell me, you were probably there.
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Why the sarcasm?
It's a simple question.
You say that the objectives were discussed at am AGM.
By that time I assume that the season was already about a quarter through.
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the objective was to spend less money than celtic and still be better than them before 2021. job done
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Yes that does sound like the sort of thing young master Park would come up with
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yup, here is a four contract, make u the best in the country before that deals runs out.
how did he get on?
posted on 8/11/21
Gerrard has done a good job , he has made progress at Rangers and thats all he was judged on at the start.
. His trophy haul isn't great for a rangers manager but he won the one that mattered most
Im not getting what half of you guys are arguing about tbh ?
ange wont be afforded the same development timescales but we do need to allow him time to build what hes after -
posted on 8/11/21
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
posted on 8/11/21
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 26 seconds ago
Gerrard has done a good job , he has made progress at Rangers and thats all he was judged on at the start.
. His trophy haul isn't great for a rangers manager but he won the one that mattered most
Im not getting what half of you guys are arguing about tbh ?
ange wont be afforded the same development timescales but we do need to allow him time to build what hes after -
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thats cos Ange has a bigger budget to work with
posted on 8/11/21
1 in 9 is not impressive.
St johnstones cup double is far better and as has been pointed out makes them the second most successful team over that period
posted on 8/11/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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If u think his remit wasnt "stop 8"
Ok but "stop 9"
Then you're nuts
posted on 8/11/21
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 26 seconds ago
Gerrard has done a good job , he has made progress at Rangers and thats all he was judged on at the start.
. His trophy haul isn't great for a rangers manager but he won the one that mattered most
Im not getting what half of you guys are arguing about tbh ?
ange wont be afforded the same development timescales but we do need to allow him time to build what hes after -
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thats cos Ange has a bigger budget to work with
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Hes sold 33M worth of talent and brought in 20M - so thats not the reason
posted on 8/11/21
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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Win the league within 2 seasons.
I’d argue our rebuild this summer was bigger than anything Gerrard had to do. Although it’s probably close in terms of in’s and out’s overall for first season, I think we’ll add another 3 and lose 2/3 in January.
Total turnaround of over 30 players in 1 season is what I’d expect it to look like for us come end of January. Mental.
posted on 8/11/21
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 17 minutes ago
‘ Gerrard had a blank canvas to overhaul the football side and most people expected it would take longer than a couple of years’
So you’re saying he got some leeway…
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No, he got an objective. He met that objective. If he didn't he wouldn't be here anymore. Same with any job.
posted on 8/11/21
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 3 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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If u think his remit wasnt "stop 8"
Ok but "stop 9"
Then you're nuts
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His remit was to stop the 10
Of course, if he could do it at 8 or 9 even better....but stopping the 10 was the goal
His first season was also going to be transitional
His second season was halted before the end, we narrowly missed out on the league cup, but our form in Europe was excellent and our unbeaten run and dominance in old firm matches had started
posted on 8/11/21
Cant stress this enough, a lazy slob who cares more about pints than tactics won 5 trohpies in a year and a half in scotland and we deemed him not good enough.
1 in 9 is not good.
posted on 8/11/21
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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Win the league within 2 seasons.
I’d argue our rebuild this summer was bigger than anything Gerrard had to do. Although it’s probably close in terms of in’s and out’s overall for first season, I think we’ll add another 3 and lose 2/3 in January.
Total turnaround of over 30 players in 1 season is what I’d expect it to look like for us come end of January. Mental.
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Interested to see what happens if he fails to deliver the league within the next two years then
As for the rebuild project....I'm sorry, but there is no way the rebuild Ange has on his hands is bigger than what Gerrard had
We were getting absolutely annihilated in old firm games, and we were getting pumped in Europe by part time teams from Luxembourg before Gerrard took over, and he was tasked with overhauling a team that eventually won 4 trebles in a row
posted on 8/11/21
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 5 minutes ago
Cant stress this enough, a lazy slob who cares more about pints than tactics won 5 trohpies in a year and a half in scotland and we deemed him not good enough.
1 in 9 is not good.
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He inherited a very good team.....a very good team
Some of the players that made up that team are still at Celtic...and playing better under a manager who isn't a lazy slob
posted on 8/11/21
First treble - warburton
Second treble - pedro
Third treble - gerrard
Fourth treble - gerrard
He was doing a grand job, thank god st johnstone took csre of the other 2 trophies seeing as he couldnt manage that
posted on 8/11/21
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posted 20 seconds ago
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comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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Win the league within 2 seasons.
I’d argue our rebuild this summer was bigger than anything Gerrard had to do. Although it’s probably close in terms of in’s and out’s overall for first season, I think we’ll add another 3 and lose 2/3 in January.
Total turnaround of over 30 players in 1 season is what I’d expect it to look like for us come end of January. Mental.
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Interested to see what happens if he fails to deliver the league within the next two years then
As for the rebuild project....I'm sorry, but there is no way the rebuild Ange has on his hands is bigger than what Gerrard had
We were getting absolutely annihilated in old firm games, and we were getting pumped in Europe by part time teams from Luxembourg before Gerrard took over, and he was tasked with overhauling a team that eventually won 4 trebles in a row
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Yeah I'd agree with that. Gerrard inherited guys like Pena, Herrera, Hodson, O'Halloran and Jason Holt who had taken us to third place two seasons running. The most he brought in from that group was £2m for Windass.
Not to say Ange didn't have rebuild but he inherited a far stronger group of players and was able to fund an overhaul within one window because he also inherited strong assets like Christie, Eddy and Ajer who were all moved on.
posted on 8/11/21
Gerrard has been allowed to spend a considerable amount more than warburton ever got.
Goldson
Barisic
Katic
Helander
Kent
Roofe
Itten
Hagi
To each their own, if u think 1 in 9 is a good return then fair enough
posted on 8/11/21
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 17 minutes ago
‘ Gerrard had a blank canvas to overhaul the football side and most people expected it would take longer than a couple of years’
So you’re saying he got some leeway…
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No, he got an objective. He met that objective. If he didn't he wouldn't be here anymore. Same with any job.
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You should be a politician.
At least he has the leeway to meet these objectives…
posted on 8/11/21
I have a feeling gerrards objective would only ever be what he managed to achieve for some people
Was lucky he had morelos those first 2 seasons tbh
posted on 8/11/21
comment by Gersmid (U22273)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard's remit was to make Rangers competitive again and stop the ten
He did that
What's Ange's remit?
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Win the league within 2 seasons.
I’d argue our rebuild this summer was bigger than anything Gerrard had to do. Although it’s probably close in terms of in’s and out’s overall for first season, I think we’ll add another 3 and lose 2/3 in January.
Total turnaround of over 30 players in 1 season is what I’d expect it to look like for us come end of January. Mental.
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Interested to see what happens if he fails to deliver the league within the next two years then
As for the rebuild project....I'm sorry, but there is no way the rebuild Ange has on his hands is bigger than what Gerrard had
We were getting absolutely annihilated in old firm games, and we were getting pumped in Europe by part time teams from Luxembourg before Gerrard took over, and he was tasked with overhauling a team that eventually won 4 trebles in a row
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Yeah I'd agree with that. Gerrard inherited guys like Pena, Herrera, Hodson, O'Halloran and Jason Holt who had taken us to third place two seasons running. The most he brought in from that group was £2m for Windass.
Not to say Ange didn't have rebuild but he inherited a far stronger group of players and was able to fund an overhaul within one window because he also inherited strong assets like Christie, Eddy and Ajer who were all moved on.
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Ange was left with Barkas, Ralston, Welsh, Biton and Greg Taylor ffs
Edouard, Christie, McGregor and Forrest were the only guys left that was thought would make an impact. Two of them left.
posted on 8/11/21
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
Gerrard has been allowed to spend a considerable amount more than warburton ever got.
Goldson
Barisic
Katic
Helander
Kent
Roofe
Itten
Hagi
To each their own, if u think 1 in 9 is a good return then fair enough
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I think Warburton’s biggest expense was Joey Garner at just over a million. He had a much lower wage budget to work within as well. All relative I suppose.
Gerrard may do well at an English team. He’s eventually managed to get success at rangers given the time. Despite league standings, you could see his teams were improving, although I’m still not convinced that in 2020 after the defeat to Hamilton he would have still been in charge after that if the season hadn’t ended the way it did-each to their own.
The concern would be if Beale does go his own way, as according to folk on here, he’s the brains of the outfit.
The AV job is a totally different challenge in a completely different league. Decent job though.
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