comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
There is no way someone is this obtuse
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I bet his parents must have hated raising him.
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Every time they disciplined him he’d respawn as a new child.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
There is no way someone is this obtuse
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I bet his parents must have hated raising him.
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Read the whole thread laughing and in disbelief. He's either a very clever wum or just very simple and unaware.
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
There is no way someone is this obtuse
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I bet his parents must have hated raising him.
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Read the whole thread laughing and in disbelief. He's either a very clever wum or just very simple and unaware.
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A little from column A…
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
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My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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You suggested that she *eventually* complied with his orders. So you weren't sure that it was rape.
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Is there anything in the audio that suggests they had s3x?
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You reached the conclusion she had complied to have s£x. You tell us brains.
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comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
He’s just thick as shiiiiiiit.
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.
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So why can you can suggest s3x happened, but i cant suggest she may have consented ?
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 25 seconds ago
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comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 54 seconds ago
Greenwood is an absolute mug. As if you record yourself or allow yourself to be recorded making death threats. I used to cut the words I wanted to say to my old next door neighbour out of a newspaper, stick them on a letter and post him his death threat when I was out of town somewhere. Untraceable.
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Genius!!
I use a similar method when I hold garden gnomes to ransom
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You’d have to take some risks - for example posting dog turds or rotten kippers through his letter box, but I’d usually do that when I knew he was at work. Heavy breathing down the phone also best when you’re out of town, from a phone box. He soon got the message and moved away.
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You can't see the irony can you. The persona you carry on here is similar to young Mason, a thick, gobby tw@ that gives it the biggun.
*insert your a plastic swear brummy swear Im a danny dyer wana be hardman swear insult*
Acemug
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Biggest irony on this forum is your username you thickcunt.
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Ace you never do me, pleeease can you do me? Even though you've filtered me because you're a bit of a poooof. Can someone reply so Ace can take me down? I need a good savaging
Greenwood is facked. I think its pretty obvious.
I get its a tough one to swallow. I know some people have said the impact on United is not important and I get that, but it still facking hurts that he was the best thing to come out of our academy for almost 30 years and we're never going to see the player he could've become.
Ultimately though the evidence is pretty cut and dry - and that's just the evidence available to the public. He deserves everything he gets. Anyone thinking he might somehow get off the hook here needs to get a grip.
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comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
Maybe all the raping took Greenwood’s eye off football and that’s why his form suffered.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 seconds ago
Rashford > Greenwood
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It's a similar situation, both need to concentrate on their football.
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They already are different offences so that makes no sense.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 3 minutes ago
Greenwood is facked. I think its pretty obvious.
I get its a tough one to swallow. I know some people have said the impact on United is not important and I get that, but it still facking hurts that he was the best thing to come out of our academy for almost 30 years and we're never going to see the player he could've become.
Ultimately though the evidence is pretty cut and dry - and that's just the evidence available to the public. He deserves everything he gets. Anyone thinking he might somehow get off the hook here needs to get a grip.
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Tbh I've grown disillusioned with United over the past few years, and this incident has just added to it. I still watch these barstewards every game though.
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.
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So why can you can suggest s3x happened, but i cant suggest she may have consented ?
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You can suggest that she may have consented after the audio that we heard. But you didn't. You said your take on the audio that we did hear was that she consented. Which didn't happen at all. The fact that he is now looking at extra charges, likely as a result of her statement, points to the fact the she is helping the police. Which would suggest that she is supporting the alleged rape offence also. We shall see.
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comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They already are different offences so that makes no sense.
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As in have there been 4 separate occasions where he offended, or if its just 2 occasions and the potential charge has changed.
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.
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So why can you can suggest s3x happened, but i cant suggest she may have consented ?
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You can suggest that she may have consented after the audio that we heard. But you didn't. You said your take on the audio that we did hear was that she consented. Which didn't happen at all. The fact that he is now looking at extra charges, likely as a result of her statement, points to the fact the she is helping the police. Which would suggest that she is supporting the alleged rape offence also. We shall see.
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Consent can be non verbal.and could be given after he last spoke.
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
So we have both suggested what may have happened, based on the audio and what we think may have happened after the audio finishes.
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My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.
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So why can you can suggest s3x happened, but i cant suggest she may have consented ?
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You can suggest that she may have consented after the audio that we heard. But you didn't. You said your take on the audio that we did hear was that she consented. Which didn't happen at all. The fact that he is now looking at extra charges, likely as a result of her statement, points to the fact the she is helping the police. Which would suggest that she is supporting the alleged rape offence also. We shall see.
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Consent can be non verbal.and could be given after he last spoke.
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So he threatens her and the she says ok, but that's not rape? Are you for real? Feck me, I really hope you don't have children.
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
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Suspicion of assault could become threats.
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They already are different offences so that makes no sense.
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As in have there been 4 separate occasions where he offended, or if its just 2 occasions and the potential charge has changed.
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And again that makes no sense. He’s been arrested on four counts. It doesn’t matter how many occasions he’s offended, that could well be multiple against each (the threaten to kill making that more likely too). Nothing has changed in terms of the potential charges aside from he’s got more potential offences to be charged for.
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So we have both suggested what may have happened, based on the audio and what we think may have happened after the audio finishes.
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No we haven't.
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posted on 1/2/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
There is no way someone is this obtuse
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I bet his parents must have hated raising him.
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Every time they disciplined him he’d respawn as a new child.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
There is no way someone is this obtuse
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I bet his parents must have hated raising him.
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Read the whole thread laughing and in disbelief. He's either a very clever wum or just very simple and unaware.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
There is no way someone is this obtuse
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I bet his parents must have hated raising him.
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Read the whole thread laughing and in disbelief. He's either a very clever wum or just very simple and unaware.
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A little from column A…
posted on 1/2/22
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My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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You suggested that she *eventually* complied with his orders. So you weren't sure that it was rape.
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Is there anything in the audio that suggests they had s3x?
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You reached the conclusion she had complied to have s£x. You tell us brains.
posted on 1/2/22
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
posted on 1/2/22
He’s just thick as shiiiiiiit.
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posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.
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So why can you can suggest s3x happened, but i cant suggest she may have consented ?
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Wreck it Ralf' -of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
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comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 54 seconds ago
Greenwood is an absolute mug. As if you record yourself or allow yourself to be recorded making death threats. I used to cut the words I wanted to say to my old next door neighbour out of a newspaper, stick them on a letter and post him his death threat when I was out of town somewhere. Untraceable.
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Genius!!
I use a similar method when I hold garden gnomes to ransom
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You’d have to take some risks - for example posting dog turds or rotten kippers through his letter box, but I’d usually do that when I knew he was at work. Heavy breathing down the phone also best when you’re out of town, from a phone box. He soon got the message and moved away.
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You can't see the irony can you. The persona you carry on here is similar to young Mason, a thick, gobby tw@ that gives it the biggun.
*insert your a plastic swear brummy swear Im a danny dyer wana be hardman swear insult*
Acemug
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Biggest irony on this forum is your username you thickcunt.
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Ace you never do me, pleeease can you do me? Even though you've filtered me because you're a bit of a poooof. Can someone reply so Ace can take me down? I need a good savaging
posted on 1/2/22
Greenwood is facked. I think its pretty obvious.
I get its a tough one to swallow. I know some people have said the impact on United is not important and I get that, but it still facking hurts that he was the best thing to come out of our academy for almost 30 years and we're never going to see the player he could've become.
Ultimately though the evidence is pretty cut and dry - and that's just the evidence available to the public. He deserves everything he gets. Anyone thinking he might somehow get off the hook here needs to get a grip.
posted on 1/2/22
Rashford > Greenwood
posted on 1/2/22
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posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
posted on 1/2/22
Maybe all the raping took Greenwood’s eye off football and that’s why his form suffered.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 seconds ago
Rashford > Greenwood
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It's a similar situation, both need to concentrate on their football.
posted on 1/2/22
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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They already are different offences so that makes no sense.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 3 minutes ago
Greenwood is facked. I think its pretty obvious.
I get its a tough one to swallow. I know some people have said the impact on United is not important and I get that, but it still facking hurts that he was the best thing to come out of our academy for almost 30 years and we're never going to see the player he could've become.
Ultimately though the evidence is pretty cut and dry - and that's just the evidence available to the public. He deserves everything he gets. Anyone thinking he might somehow get off the hook here needs to get a grip.
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Tbh I've grown disillusioned with United over the past few years, and this incident has just added to it. I still watch these barstewards every game though.
posted on 1/2/22
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.
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So why can you can suggest s3x happened, but i cant suggest she may have consented ?
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You can suggest that she may have consented after the audio that we heard. But you didn't. You said your take on the audio that we did hear was that she consented. Which didn't happen at all. The fact that he is now looking at extra charges, likely as a result of her statement, points to the fact the she is helping the police. Which would suggest that she is supporting the alleged rape offence also. We shall see.
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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They already are different offences so that makes no sense.
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As in have there been 4 separate occasions where he offended, or if its just 2 occasions and the potential charge has changed.
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posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.
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So why can you can suggest s3x happened, but i cant suggest she may have consented ?
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You can suggest that she may have consented after the audio that we heard. But you didn't. You said your take on the audio that we did hear was that she consented. Which didn't happen at all. The fact that he is now looking at extra charges, likely as a result of her statement, points to the fact the she is helping the police. Which would suggest that she is supporting the alleged rape offence also. We shall see.
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Consent can be non verbal.and could be given after he last spoke.
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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
posted on 1/2/22
So we have both suggested what may have happened, based on the audio and what we think may have happened after the audio finishes.
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posted 25 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.
The whole thing is horrible.
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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.
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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .
To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.
Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.
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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.
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So why can you can suggest s3x happened, but i cant suggest she may have consented ?
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You can suggest that she may have consented after the audio that we heard. But you didn't. You said your take on the audio that we did hear was that she consented. Which didn't happen at all. The fact that he is now looking at extra charges, likely as a result of her statement, points to the fact the she is helping the police. Which would suggest that she is supporting the alleged rape offence also. We shall see.
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Consent can be non verbal.and could be given after he last spoke.
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So he threatens her and the she says ok, but that's not rape? Are you for real? Feck me, I really hope you don't have children.
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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
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Suspicion of assault could become threats.
posted on 1/2/22
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posted on 1/2/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They already are different offences so that makes no sense.
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As in have there been 4 separate occasions where he offended, or if its just 2 occasions and the potential charge has changed.
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And again that makes no sense. He’s been arrested on four counts. It doesn’t matter how many occasions he’s offended, that could well be multiple against each (the threaten to kill making that more likely too). Nothing has changed in terms of the potential charges aside from he’s got more potential offences to be charged for.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
So we have both suggested what may have happened, based on the audio and what we think may have happened after the audio finishes.
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No we haven't.
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