comment by Don (U22703)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!

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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Whats he been charged with then?
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Nothing yet. They have until tomorrow.

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!

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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!

If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.

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I don't think that RDD understood what further arrested meant and had muddied the waters with the suggestion that the charges were being downgraded. To be honest, when I read that he had been further arrested, it didn't mention that the charges were additional. So I checked with my bro that further arrested does indeed mean additional charges, which it does.

The bit about him suspecting that the additional charges likely result from Harriet's statement could be very important though, as it would mean that she is helping the police, rather than protecting Mason. If that is the case, the audio becomes very powerful, as they have her testimony and the audio. If they just had the audio but she wouldn't comment, then the charge is harder to prove.
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Think both those points should be blindingly obvious to everyone but I get there’s always exceptions!

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!

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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!

If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.

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We shall see tomorrow.

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
It’s public info.
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What she said in her statement is public info?
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No, the fact that he has been further arrested on additional charges.
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But the content of her statement, which your brother is sharing, wasnt public knowledge

If they actually charge him with all 4 offences, I don't see him getting less than 10 years.

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!

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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Whats he been charged with then?
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Nothing yet. They have until tomorrow.
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You said above they have added additional charges though.

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
It’s public info.
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What she said in her statement is public info?
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No, the fact that he has been further arrested on additional charges.
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But the content of her statement, which your brother is sharing, wasnt public knowledge
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How is it possible to be this stupid?

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
It’s public info.
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What she said in her statement is public info?
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No, the fact that he has been further arrested on additional charges.
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But the content of her statement, which your brother is sharing, wasnt public knowledge
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What are you talking about? He isn't sharing the content of her statement. He's not even seen it. He's not even in the same police force. He has just given the opinion that the new alleged charges will have to come light as a result of her statement, based on how domestic abuses tend to go. Once they start investigating domestic abuse they tend to unearth additional historical offences, which then get added to the charges.

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!

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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Whats he been charged with then?
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Nothing yet. They have until tomorrow.
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You said above they have added additional charges though.
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Yeh, I mistyped. I meant additional alleged offences, as you well know. They will likely become charges tomorrow.

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
It’s public info.
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What she said in her statement is public info?
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No, the fact that he has been further arrested on additional charges.
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But the content of her statement, which your brother is sharing, wasnt public knowledge
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What are you talking about? He isn't sharing the content of her statement. He's not even seen it. He's not even in the same police force. He has just given the opinion that the new alleged charges will have to come light as a result of her statement, based on how domestic abuses tend to go. Once they start investigating domestic abuse they tend to unearth additional historical offences, which then get added to the charges.
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Are you saying that they found additional role play scripts? Or more videos in which they are acting to satisfy her desire for a bad boy?

comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
It’s public info.
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What she said in her statement is public info?
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No, the fact that he has been further arrested on additional charges.
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But the content of her statement, which your brother is sharing, wasnt public knowledge
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What are you talking about? He isn't sharing the content of her statement. He's not even seen it. He's not even in the same police force. He has just given the opinion that the new alleged charges will have to come light as a result of her statement, based on how domestic abuses tend to go. Once they start investigating domestic abuse they tend to unearth additional historical offences, which then get added to the charges.
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Are you saying that they found additional role play scripts? Or more videos in which they are acting to satisfy her desire for a bad boy?
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Both

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robbb : Ralpha Males > Olesexuals (U22716)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.

The whole thing is horrible.

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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.

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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .

To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.

Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.

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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!

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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!

If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.

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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.

I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.

It always amazes me that RDD tries to go the semantic route given his limited vocabulary.

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robbb : Ralpha Males > Olesexuals (U22716)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.

The whole thing is horrible.

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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.

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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .

To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.

Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.

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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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You suggested that she *eventually* complied with his orders. So you weren't sure that it was rape.

RDD, the real question we all wanna know is where do you get the energy to conduct these Winston style blood feud debates? Are you on peds? Are you a bot? Haven’t you got some role play surprise seeex to crack on with? Just take a break muchacho.

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robbb : Ralpha Males > Olesexuals (U22716)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.

The whole thing is horrible.

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I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
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What do you think they found on his phone?
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He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.

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Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .

To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.

Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
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But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.

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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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We've been through this already about 4 times. I said that, assuming s£x happened after the audio finishes, that it is is rape. Your take on it was that she had complied to have s£x.

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
It’s public info.
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What she said in her statement is public info?
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No, the fact that he has been further arrested on additional charges.
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But the content of her statement, which your brother is sharing, wasnt public knowledge
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What are you talking about? He isn't sharing the content of her statement. He's not even seen it. He's not even in the same police force. He has just given the opinion that the new alleged charges will have to come light as a result of her statement, based on how domestic abuses tend to go. Once they start investigating domestic abuse they tend to unearth additional historical offences, which then get added to the charges.
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So he is guessing. Gotcha.

There is no way someone is this obtuse

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
It’s public info.
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What she said in her statement is public info?
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No, the fact that he has been further arrested on additional charges.
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But the content of her statement, which your brother is sharing, wasnt public knowledge
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What are you talking about? He isn't sharing the content of her statement. He's not even seen it. He's not even in the same police force. He has just given the opinion that the new alleged charges will have to come light as a result of her statement, based on how domestic abuses tend to go. Once they start investigating domestic abuse they tend to unearth additional historical offences, which then get added to the charges.
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So he is guessing. Gotcha.
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No he's giving an informed opinion. Gotcha

comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!

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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!

If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.

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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.

I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.

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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.

comment by #TopLad || Sir Alex Ferguson ||✓ (U10161)
posted 1 minute ago
There is no way someone is this obtuse
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I bet his parents must have hated raising him.

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
It’s public info.
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What she said in her statement is public info?
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No, the fact that he has been further arrested on additional charges.
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But the content of her statement, which your brother is sharing, wasnt public knowledge
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What are you talking about? He isn't sharing the content of her statement. He's not even seen it. He's not even in the same police force. He has just given the opinion that the new alleged charges will have to come light as a result of her statement, based on how domestic abuses tend to go. Once they start investigating domestic abuse they tend to unearth additional historical offences, which then get added to the charges.
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So he is guessing. Gotcha.
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I did say in my first post that he was giving his opinion on how the additional offences were likely discovered. You really need to read more closely to stop making such a t!t of yourself.

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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I doubt Greenwood said himself to police he’d threatened to kill her so I’d say that’s a pretty obvious assumption to make given the additional arrest made today.

The whole thing is horrible.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

I was thinking they maybe found something on his phone
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What do you think they found on his phone?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He means a death threat. He’s saying the victim’s statement isn’t necessarily the only place that could have come from.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you Clockwork. And thanks for trying to explain my position on this earlier. Doing it alone is getting a little on top now .

To clarify, iv not condoned anything he has allegedly done, blamed her for anything, or trivialised matterrs.

Iv simply followed events and looked at potential alternative explanations / outcomes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

But on this particular thread, I have to say that your take on the audio - and I believe you’ve said it is your interpretation - is a pretty strange one. Let’s not get into that though.

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Its not strange to look beyond the obvious. I guarantee thats what the police will be doing.
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Its not about looking beyond. It about you somehow thinking that Harriet complied in that audio. There is no suggestion that is the case.
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Is there anything in that audio that suggests they had s3x?
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You suggested that she *eventually* complied with his orders. So you weren't sure that it was rape.
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Is there anything in the audio that suggests they had s3x?