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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
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Suspicion of assault could become threats.
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No, it couldn't. And there would be no need to further arrest him if they are planning on downgrading the offences that he was initially arrested for. They just charge him with something different when they get to the end of their investigation. The fact that they have rearrested him means that there are additional offences to the ones he was initially arrested for.
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They cant charge him with something they havent arrested him for.
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Of course they can you weapon. The arrest someone for an offence, which gives them the power to take custody, interview etc. At the end of the investigation the police can charge them with a different offence.
Unless my brother has been doing it wrong for 20 years.
Hmmm. Who do I think it right? An experienced police officer, or Rapey McRapeson? Tough decision.
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Why would they further arrest then if as you claim, they could just charge him with the additional offences under the initial arrest?
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So that there are 4 counts against him rather than the initial 2. Get your fingers and toes out lad.
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Why would they further arrest if they can, as you claim, charge him with as many offences as they like under the intial arrest?
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I didn't say that they can charge him with as many offences as they like. I said that they can them with a different offence. Learn to read.
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So we have both suggested what may have happened, based on the audio and what we think may have happened after the audio finishes.
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No we haven't.
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Yes. Yes we have.
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Nope.
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Yes. Yes we have but if you disagree, explain why you think so.
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I already have.
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No you havent.
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We both know I have. You are just playing your silly little game now where you jump about from one point to another that has already been discussed.
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You havent. And you are on the ropes. We both know it.
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zzzzzzzzzzz
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
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Suspicion of assault could become threats.
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No, it couldn't. And there would be no need to further arrest him if they are planning on downgrading the offences that he was initially arrested for. They just charge him with something different when they get to the end of their investigation. The fact that they have rearrested him means that there are additional offences to the ones he was initially arrested for.
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They cant charge him with something they havent arrested him for.
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Of course they can you weapon. The arrest someone for an offence, which gives them the power to take custody, interview etc. At the end of the investigation the police can charge them with a different offence.
Unless my brother has been doing it wrong for 20 years.
Hmmm. Who do I think it right? An experienced police officer, or Rapey McRapeson? Tough decision.
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Why would they further arrest then if as you claim, they could just charge him with the additional offences under the initial arrest?
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So that there are 4 counts against him rather than the initial 2. Get your fingers and toes out lad.
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Why would they further arrest if they can, as you claim, charge him with as many offences as they like under the intial arrest?
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I didn't say that they can charge him with as many offences as they like. I said that they can them with a different offence. Learn to read.
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So you think its 1 arrrest per offence / potential charge?
Il let you regroup. Im off to bed
I really wish United had Don's energy.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
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Suspicion of assault could become threats.
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No, it couldn't. And there would be no need to further arrest him if they are planning on downgrading the offences that he was initially arrested for. They just charge him with something different when they get to the end of their investigation. The fact that they have rearrested him means that there are additional offences to the ones he was initially arrested for.
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They cant charge him with something they havent arrested him for.
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Of course they can you weapon. The arrest someone for an offence, which gives them the power to take custody, interview etc. At the end of the investigation the police can charge them with a different offence.
Unless my brother has been doing it wrong for 20 years.
Hmmm. Who do I think it right? An experienced police officer, or Rapey McRapeson? Tough decision.
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Why would they further arrest then if as you claim, they could just charge him with the additional offences under the initial arrest?
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So that there are 4 counts against him rather than the initial 2. Get your fingers and toes out lad.
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Why would they further arrest if they can, as you claim, charge him with as many offences as they like under the intial arrest?
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I didn't say that they can charge him with as many offences as they like. I said that they can them with a different offence. Learn to read.
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So you think its 1 arrrest per offence / potential charge?
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Nope. 1 arrest for the first 2 offences. A further arrest for the additional 2 offences. He now faces 4 different counts/charges. If they wanted to downgrade the initial 2 offences then they could do that when it came to placing the charges. But as they have further arrested him and hit him with another 2 offences, the new offences must relate to different incidents that occurred at a different times.
The word further means something.
No point arguing over something we don't fully understand yet. Looks really bad, probably is really bad but we don't put people away on trials by social media in this country. That's for the courts.
It's probably best it's not discussed soon on here. They have already banned it on the Caf. No argument can be proven or dismissed yet.
I remember not too long ago reading people on twitter saying throw the key away' on Jonny Depp. Disney then ditched him. Now he's back and it was his Mrs that was the wrong un. Not for a second saying that's the case this time and I don't think it is but perfect example as to why trials by social media aren't wise.
Justice will be served I'm sure.
I wonder if the police are trying to break the detainee’s morale with incessant questioning.
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I wonder if the police are trying to break the detainee’s morale with incessant questioning.
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I wonder if the police are trying to break the detainee’s morale with incessant questioning.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
Winston has serious competition
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeah role play scripts which further prove his innocence. Been said plenty, so no need to read the comments on the thread.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Surely whether or not he gets charged for text messages is up to his phone provider, not the police
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeah role play scripts which further prove his innocence. Been said plenty, so no need to read the comments on the thread.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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No point arguing over something we don't fully understand yet. Looks really bad, probably is really bad but we don't put people away on trials by social media in this country. That's for the courts.
It's probably best it's not discussed soon on here. They have already banned it on the Caf. No argument can be proven or dismissed yet.
I remember not too long ago reading people on twitter saying throw the key away' on Jonny Depp. Disney then ditched him. Now he's back and it was his Mrs that was the wrong un. Not for a second saying that's the case this time and I don't think it is but perfect example as to why trials by social media aren't wise.
Justice will be served I'm sure.
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Bit of a weird one to use there SE given that was judged in court and yet you’re going against that and seemingly going by the social media judgement…
There's been some fantastic memes today.
"Greenwood running down the wing" with a picture of him sprinting through prison a particular favourite.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Yep. I can imagine that he's given the police a helping hand in that respect. She's likely given them additional angles also.
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No point arguing over something we don't fully understand yet. Looks really bad, probably is really bad but we don't put people away on trials by social media in this country. That's for the courts.
It's probably best it's not discussed soon on here. They have already banned it on the Caf. No argument can be proven or dismissed yet.
I remember not too long ago reading people on twitter saying throw the key away' on Jonny Depp. Disney then ditched him. Now he's back and it was his Mrs that was the wrong un. Not for a second saying that's the case this time and I don't think it is but perfect example as to why trials by social media aren't wise.
Justice will be served I'm sure.
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Bit of a weird one to use there SE given that was judged in court and yet you’re going against that and seemingly going by the social media judgement…
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Not weird at all. Before it went to court women were going mad saying Depp was the danger. That case totally flipped on its head and she in fact was the mental one in the end.
This case is different agreed and I don't think he's innocent at all. However I don't know that for absolute cast iron certainty and that's why we have a court. Justice will be served.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Yep. I can imagine that he's given the police a helping hand in that respect. She's likely given them additional angles also.
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Not sure on her, fathers statement was odd, I've genuinely no idea if she even wanted this playing out this way.
I take no joy in saying he really does look fvcked now. If he's made an example of, and sometimes that does happen to send out a statement, it's quite likely he's in some real bother.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Yep. I can imagine that he's given the police a helping hand in that respect. She's likely given them additional angles also.
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Not sure on her, fathers statement was odd, I've genuinely no idea if she even wanted this playing out this way.
I take no joy in saying he really does look fvcked now. If he's made an example of, and sometimes that does happen to send out a statement, it's quite likely he's in some real bother.
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I’ve heard that the father’s statement was really just bits of what he said and taken out of context, or something like that.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Yep. I can imagine that he's given the police a helping hand in that respect. She's likely given them additional angles also.
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Not sure on her, fathers statement was odd, I've genuinely no idea if she even wanted this playing out this way.
I take no joy in saying he really does look fvcked now. If he's made an example of, and sometimes that does happen to send out a statement, it's quite likely he's in some real bother.
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Apparently the dads statement wasn't actually a statement. The Maiil called him when he was likely still in shock and caught him on the hop, before stitching a few things he said together into a 'statement'. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
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Suspicion of assault could become threats.
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No, it couldn't. And there would be no need to further arrest him if they are planning on downgrading the offences that he was initially arrested for. They just charge him with something different when they get to the end of their investigation. The fact that they have rearrested him means that there are additional offences to the ones he was initially arrested for.
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They cant charge him with something they havent arrested him for.
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Of course they can you weapon. The arrest someone for an offence, which gives them the power to take custody, interview etc. At the end of the investigation the police can charge them with a different offence.
Unless my brother has been doing it wrong for 20 years.
Hmmm. Who do I think it right? An experienced police officer, or Rapey McRapeson? Tough decision.
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Why would they further arrest then if as you claim, they could just charge him with the additional offences under the initial arrest?
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So that there are 4 counts against him rather than the initial 2. Get your fingers and toes out lad.
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Why would they further arrest if they can, as you claim, charge him with as many offences as they like under the intial arrest?
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I didn't say that they can charge him with as many offences as they like. I said that they can them with a different offence. Learn to read.
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So we have both suggested what may have happened, based on the audio and what we think may have happened after the audio finishes.
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No we haven't.
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Yes. Yes we have.
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Nope.
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Yes. Yes we have but if you disagree, explain why you think so.
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I already have.
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No you havent.
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We both know I have. You are just playing your silly little game now where you jump about from one point to another that has already been discussed.
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You havent. And you are on the ropes. We both know it.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
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Suspicion of assault could become threats.
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No, it couldn't. And there would be no need to further arrest him if they are planning on downgrading the offences that he was initially arrested for. They just charge him with something different when they get to the end of their investigation. The fact that they have rearrested him means that there are additional offences to the ones he was initially arrested for.
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They cant charge him with something they havent arrested him for.
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Of course they can you weapon. The arrest someone for an offence, which gives them the power to take custody, interview etc. At the end of the investigation the police can charge them with a different offence.
Unless my brother has been doing it wrong for 20 years.
Hmmm. Who do I think it right? An experienced police officer, or Rapey McRapeson? Tough decision.
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Why would they further arrest then if as you claim, they could just charge him with the additional offences under the initial arrest?
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So that there are 4 counts against him rather than the initial 2. Get your fingers and toes out lad.
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Why would they further arrest if they can, as you claim, charge him with as many offences as they like under the intial arrest?
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I didn't say that they can charge him with as many offences as they like. I said that they can them with a different offence. Learn to read.
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So you think its 1 arrrest per offence / potential charge?
posted on 1/2/22
Il let you regroup. Im off to bed
posted on 1/2/22
I really wish United had Don's energy.
posted on 1/2/22
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It’s public info.
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That’s what I’m confused about!
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RDD is suggesting that the further arrest is because the police are downgrading the charges. I am saying that my brother has heard the the further arrest is because they have added additional charges - not replaced the initial ones with lesser charges.
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Ok. Im still struggling a bit as the police have publicly confirmed that to everyone anyway!
If they’d downgraded then he wouldn’t have been further arrested for it so like I said, it would be a very idiotic thing to even suggest.
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We shall see tomorrow.
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We won’t see anything that’ll change that tomorrow. He’s been arrested initially on two counts. They’ve now increased that to four counts. All we will now find out is what they will charge him with. Doesn’t change what he’s been arrested for.
I’m assuming you’re playing on Elvis not saying “potential” before charges. Doesn’t change the stupidity of your argument of them downgrading anything.
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We will eventually find out what any charges relate to.
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Absolutely. Doesn’t change that they’re separate potential charges though.
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it will tell us if these latest arrests relate to what was initiqlly suspected rape and assault, or different offences.
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They are different offences/additional charges that have come to light. GBH doesn't become threatening to kill someone.
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Suspicion of assault could become threats.
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No, it couldn't. And there would be no need to further arrest him if they are planning on downgrading the offences that he was initially arrested for. They just charge him with something different when they get to the end of their investigation. The fact that they have rearrested him means that there are additional offences to the ones he was initially arrested for.
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They cant charge him with something they havent arrested him for.
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Of course they can you weapon. The arrest someone for an offence, which gives them the power to take custody, interview etc. At the end of the investigation the police can charge them with a different offence.
Unless my brother has been doing it wrong for 20 years.
Hmmm. Who do I think it right? An experienced police officer, or Rapey McRapeson? Tough decision.
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Why would they further arrest then if as you claim, they could just charge him with the additional offences under the initial arrest?
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So that there are 4 counts against him rather than the initial 2. Get your fingers and toes out lad.
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Why would they further arrest if they can, as you claim, charge him with as many offences as they like under the intial arrest?
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I didn't say that they can charge him with as many offences as they like. I said that they can them with a different offence. Learn to read.
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So you think its 1 arrrest per offence / potential charge?
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Nope. 1 arrest for the first 2 offences. A further arrest for the additional 2 offences. He now faces 4 different counts/charges. If they wanted to downgrade the initial 2 offences then they could do that when it came to placing the charges. But as they have further arrested him and hit him with another 2 offences, the new offences must relate to different incidents that occurred at a different times.
posted on 1/2/22
The word further means something.
posted on 1/2/22
No point arguing over something we don't fully understand yet. Looks really bad, probably is really bad but we don't put people away on trials by social media in this country. That's for the courts.
It's probably best it's not discussed soon on here. They have already banned it on the Caf. No argument can be proven or dismissed yet.
I remember not too long ago reading people on twitter saying throw the key away' on Jonny Depp. Disney then ditched him. Now he's back and it was his Mrs that was the wrong un. Not for a second saying that's the case this time and I don't think it is but perfect example as to why trials by social media aren't wise.
Justice will be served I'm sure.
posted on 1/2/22
I wonder if the police are trying to break the detainee’s morale with incessant questioning.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
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I wonder if the police are trying to break the detainee’s morale with incessant questioning.
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I wonder if the police are trying to break the detainee’s morale with incessant questioning.
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
posted on 2/2/22
Winston has serious competition
posted on 2/2/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 seconds ago
Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeah role play scripts which further prove his innocence. Been said plenty, so no need to read the comments on the thread.
posted on 2/2/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Surely whether or not he gets charged for text messages is up to his phone provider, not the police
posted on 2/2/22
comment by Ricardo Calder (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 seconds ago
Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeah role play scripts which further prove his innocence. Been said plenty, so no need to read the comments on the thread.
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posted on 2/2/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
posted on 2/2/22
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
No point arguing over something we don't fully understand yet. Looks really bad, probably is really bad but we don't put people away on trials by social media in this country. That's for the courts.
It's probably best it's not discussed soon on here. They have already banned it on the Caf. No argument can be proven or dismissed yet.
I remember not too long ago reading people on twitter saying throw the key away' on Jonny Depp. Disney then ditched him. Now he's back and it was his Mrs that was the wrong un. Not for a second saying that's the case this time and I don't think it is but perfect example as to why trials by social media aren't wise.
Justice will be served I'm sure.
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Bit of a weird one to use there SE given that was judged in court and yet you’re going against that and seemingly going by the social media judgement…
posted on 2/2/22
There's been some fantastic memes today.
"Greenwood running down the wing" with a picture of him sprinting through prison a particular favourite.
posted on 2/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
posted on 2/2/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Yep. I can imagine that he's given the police a helping hand in that respect. She's likely given them additional angles also.
posted on 2/2/22
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
No point arguing over something we don't fully understand yet. Looks really bad, probably is really bad but we don't put people away on trials by social media in this country. That's for the courts.
It's probably best it's not discussed soon on here. They have already banned it on the Caf. No argument can be proven or dismissed yet.
I remember not too long ago reading people on twitter saying throw the key away' on Jonny Depp. Disney then ditched him. Now he's back and it was his Mrs that was the wrong un. Not for a second saying that's the case this time and I don't think it is but perfect example as to why trials by social media aren't wise.
Justice will be served I'm sure.
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Bit of a weird one to use there SE given that was judged in court and yet you’re going against that and seemingly going by the social media judgement…
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Not weird at all. Before it went to court women were going mad saying Depp was the danger. That case totally flipped on its head and she in fact was the mental one in the end.
This case is different agreed and I don't think he's innocent at all. However I don't know that for absolute cast iron certainty and that's why we have a court. Justice will be served.
posted on 2/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
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Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Yep. I can imagine that he's given the police a helping hand in that respect. She's likely given them additional angles also.
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Not sure on her, fathers statement was odd, I've genuinely no idea if she even wanted this playing out this way.
I take no joy in saying he really does look fvcked now. If he's made an example of, and sometimes that does happen to send out a statement, it's quite likely he's in some real bother.
posted on 2/2/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Yep. I can imagine that he's given the police a helping hand in that respect. She's likely given them additional angles also.
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Not sure on her, fathers statement was odd, I've genuinely no idea if she even wanted this playing out this way.
I take no joy in saying he really does look fvcked now. If he's made an example of, and sometimes that does happen to send out a statement, it's quite likely he's in some real bother.
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I’ve heard that the father’s statement was really just bits of what he said and taken out of context, or something like that.
posted on 2/2/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not managed to read the thread so may have been ssaid already but if I had to guess I'd say the police have got hold of his phone and found various stuff in text messages and added charges for that.
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Yeh, quite possibly some good evidence on there.
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You can just imagine him (or you can now) saying he'll kill her if this gets out.
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Yep. I can imagine that he's given the police a helping hand in that respect. She's likely given them additional angles also.
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Not sure on her, fathers statement was odd, I've genuinely no idea if she even wanted this playing out this way.
I take no joy in saying he really does look fvcked now. If he's made an example of, and sometimes that does happen to send out a statement, it's quite likely he's in some real bother.
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Apparently the dads statement wasn't actually a statement. The Maiil called him when he was likely still in shock and caught him on the hop, before stitching a few things he said together into a 'statement'. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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