comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 20 minutes ago
Luckily, you’ll get banned again soon though so the sensible people on here can have an informed debate again.
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But it won’t be long before he’s back ruining every article with the same bulshiiiiiit.
I don’t know why it’s taken admin so long to ban him this time. He’s usually quicker than this.
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Iv said or done nothing wrong you vile sc3m.
Surprised you werent banned for your diagusting Rape Rovers pun though.
Weird that
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I agree Don. I don't like you as a poster, always asking what we think instead of just giving your opinion. But you've done nothing to be banned on this thread imo
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Thank you 52.
Sounds obvious, but i know my views / opinions already. Its the opinions of others im interested in.
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They will give them without asking
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I really dont understand why people get so upset with being asked a question on thr topic being discussed.
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 44 seconds ago
Wtf is a typical relationship or typical bedroom behaviour?
One person’s rusty trombone whilst dressed as a Viking is the others missionary in PJs once a week.
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RDD just keeps asking questions until the woman takes her clothes off. Verbal assault.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
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How have i blamed her you cretin.
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He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies
Now, im not condoning anything here, but there is a submissive tone to her behaviour in the video. Clearly their relationship isnt typical in how they behave towards each other re s3x.
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To be fair, those were two comments about two different videos, and the first, if I remember (which was about the video/audio that was shared on social media) wasn’t what Don thought had happened but how he was saying it might be (mis)interpreted. Juxtaposing those two comments makes what Don said worse than it is.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Don’s stance has been to blame the victim, rather to downplay the potential seriousness of what’s happened so that if Greenwood gets anything less than a lengthy prison sentence he can say he told us so.
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Nope. He clearly says that the first para is his interpretation of the audio. Don't make excuses for him.
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It.is.
What exactly do you THINK is wrong with it?
comment by Robbb : Ralpha Males > Olesexuals (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 44 seconds ago
Wtf is a typical relationship or typical bedroom behaviour?
One person’s rusty trombone whilst dressed as a Viking is the others missionary in PJs once a week.
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RDD just keeps asking questions until the woman takes her clothes off. Verbal assault.
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My marriage is a bit like that but she keeps putting more clothes on.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
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Otheelrs have said they dint think the tape is enough to prove rape. Why aren't you raging at them??
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wtf is a typical relationship or typical bedroom behaviour?
One person’s rusty trombone whilst dressed as a Viking is the others missionary in PJs once a week.
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You been looking in my window again?
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
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How have i blamed her you cretin.
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He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies
Now, im not condoning anything here, but there is a submissive tone to her behaviour in the video. Clearly their relationship isnt typical in how they behave towards each other re s3x.
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To be fair, those were two comments about two different videos, and the first, if I remember (which was about the video/audio that was shared on social media) wasn’t what Don thought had happened but how he was saying it might be (mis)interpreted. Juxtaposing those two comments makes what Don said worse than it is.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Don’s stance has been to blame the victim, rather to downplay the potential seriousness of what’s happened so that if Greenwood gets anything less than a lengthy prison sentence he can say he told us so.
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Nope. He clearly says that the first para is his interpretation of the audio. Don't make excuses for him.
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It.is.
What exactly do you THINK is wrong with it?
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I think it wrong that the very last thing we hear on the audio is Mason threatening Harriet if she pushes him again. And you think that is her 'complying' to have s£x with him. You fecking beast.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
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How have i blamed her you cretin.
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He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies
Now, im not condoning anything here, but there is a submissive tone to her behaviour in the video. Clearly their relationship isnt typical in how they behave towards each other re s3x.
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To be fair, those were two comments about two different videos, and the first, if I remember (which was about the video/audio that was shared on social media) wasn’t what Don thought had happened but how he was saying it might be (mis)interpreted. Juxtaposing those two comments makes what Don said worse than it is.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Don’s stance has been to blame the victim, rather to downplay the potential seriousness of what’s happened so that if Greenwood gets anything less than a lengthy prison sentence he can say he told us so.
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Nope. He clearly says that the first para is his interpretation of the audio. Don't make excuses for him.
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It.is.
What exactly do you THINK is wrong with it?
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I think it wrong that the very last thing we hear on the audio is Mason threatening Harriet if she pushes him again. And you think that is her 'complying' to have s£x with him. You fecking beast.
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Tbf maybe she was saying ‘booo urns’.
Threatens to do what though?
And we dont know why she is pushing him.
Or what non verbal consent she may have given him.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
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How have i blamed her you cretin.
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He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies
Now, im not condoning anything here, but there is a submissive tone to her behaviour in the video. Clearly their relationship isnt typical in how they behave towards each other re s3x.
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To be fair, those were two comments about two different videos, and the first, if I remember (which was about the video/audio that was shared on social media) wasn’t what Don thought had happened but how he was saying it might be (mis)interpreted. Juxtaposing those two comments makes what Don said worse than it is.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Don’s stance has been to blame the victim, rather to downplay the potential seriousness of what’s happened so that if Greenwood gets anything less than a lengthy prison sentence he can say he told us so.
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Nope. He clearly says that the first para is his interpretation of the audio. Don't make excuses for him.
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Then I’ve misremembered that. I thought on that thread - and some of his comments were doing this - he was trying to play ‘devil’s advocate’, albeit clumsily, by arguing how a defence lawyer in the mould of Keanu Reeves’ character in the film of that name might try to dismantle the evidence.
Believe me, I’ve no wish to make excuses for Don (or anyone else) - I think he’s in the wrong here, just not necessarily for the reasons others are saying. As I say, I think it’s more about setting himself up for an ‘I told you so’ if Greenwood doesn’t get a long sentence.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
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Otheelrs have said they dint think the tape is enough to prove rape. Why aren't you raging at them??
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We weren't discussing whether it was enough to prove rape. I already said on multiple times that it would likely hinge on Harriet's statement.
My issue is with your rapey interpretation of the audio. Fecking weird.
Thats exactly what iv been doing since day 1 Clockwork.
As for i told you so, who would give a t055 even if i did?
As I say, I think it’s more about setting himself up for an ‘I told you so’ if Greenwood doesn’t get a long sentence.
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He usually does that with football (and still ends up being wrong).
But his comments on these kind of subjects are more consistent with his politics and lack of moral fibre.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Threatens to do what though?
And we dont know why she is pushing him.
Or what non verbal consent she may have given him.
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She is pushing him because he is trying to stick his d!ck in her and telling her to get her legs up.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 30 seconds ago
Thats exactly what iv been doing since day 1 Clockwork.
As for i told you so, who would give a t055 even if i did?
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Well, quite
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
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Otheelrs have said they dint think the tape is enough to prove rape. Why aren't you raging at them??
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We weren't discussing whether it was enough to prove rape. I already said on multiple times that it would likely hinge on Harriet's statement.
My issue is with your rapey interpretation of the audio. Fecking weird.
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Nothing weird about looking beyond the obvious for potential explanations you moron.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Threatens to do what though?
And we dont know why she is pushing him.
Or what non verbal consent she may have given him.
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She is pushing him because he is trying to stick his d!ck in her and telling her to get her legs up.
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But we dont know he was still doing that when she pushed him.
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
As I say, I think it’s more about setting himself up for an ‘I told you so’ if Greenwood doesn’t get a long sentence.
———
He usually does that with football (and still ends up being wrong).
But his comments on these kind of subjects are more consistent with his politics and lack of moral fibre.
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You have said something far more vile than I have on this topic you sad excuse for a man
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
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Otheelrs have said they dint think the tape is enough to prove rape. Why aren't you raging at them??
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We weren't discussing whether it was enough to prove rape. I already said on multiple times that it would likely hinge on Harriet's statement.
My issue is with your rapey interpretation of the audio. Fecking weird.
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Nothing weird about looking beyond the obvious for potential explanations you moron.
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If you listen to that audio and at the end of it you take from it that she consented to have s£x, then yes, you are weird.
It was an excellent joke at the expense of a football club that has employed a rapist. Not really comparable to the crap you’ve come out with.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 29 seconds ago
It was an excellent joke at the expense of a football club that has employed a rapist. Not really comparable to the crap you’ve come out with.
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Not even close.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 35 seconds ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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How could he know what was in her statement?
With what we know what do you think happened in the incident Don?
In all probability I think it's as bad as it looks/sounds. However, I do accept we don't have the full facts (which could even make it worse).
Everyone here is commenting on what is knows rather than hypotheticals. We all go into the conversation with the basic concept of innocent until proven guilty but, sometimes, the info already out there pretty much tells us what we need to know.
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posted on 1/2/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 20 minutes ago
Luckily, you’ll get banned again soon though so the sensible people on here can have an informed debate again.
———
But it won’t be long before he’s back ruining every article with the same bulshiiiiiit.
I don’t know why it’s taken admin so long to ban him this time. He’s usually quicker than this.
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Iv said or done nothing wrong you vile sc3m.
Surprised you werent banned for your diagusting Rape Rovers pun though.
Weird that
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I agree Don. I don't like you as a poster, always asking what we think instead of just giving your opinion. But you've done nothing to be banned on this thread imo
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Thank you 52.
Sounds obvious, but i know my views / opinions already. Its the opinions of others im interested in.
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They will give them without asking
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I really dont understand why people get so upset with being asked a question on thr topic being discussed.
posted on 1/2/22
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 44 seconds ago
Wtf is a typical relationship or typical bedroom behaviour?
One person’s rusty trombone whilst dressed as a Viking is the others missionary in PJs once a week.
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RDD just keeps asking questions until the woman takes her clothes off. Verbal assault.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
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How have i blamed her you cretin.
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He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies
Now, im not condoning anything here, but there is a submissive tone to her behaviour in the video. Clearly their relationship isnt typical in how they behave towards each other re s3x.
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To be fair, those were two comments about two different videos, and the first, if I remember (which was about the video/audio that was shared on social media) wasn’t what Don thought had happened but how he was saying it might be (mis)interpreted. Juxtaposing those two comments makes what Don said worse than it is.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Don’s stance has been to blame the victim, rather to downplay the potential seriousness of what’s happened so that if Greenwood gets anything less than a lengthy prison sentence he can say he told us so.
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Nope. He clearly says that the first para is his interpretation of the audio. Don't make excuses for him.
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It.is.
What exactly do you THINK is wrong with it?
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Robbb : Ralpha Males > Olesexuals (U22716)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 44 seconds ago
Wtf is a typical relationship or typical bedroom behaviour?
One person’s rusty trombone whilst dressed as a Viking is the others missionary in PJs once a week.
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RDD just keeps asking questions until the woman takes her clothes off. Verbal assault.
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My marriage is a bit like that but she keeps putting more clothes on.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
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Otheelrs have said they dint think the tape is enough to prove rape. Why aren't you raging at them??
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wtf is a typical relationship or typical bedroom behaviour?
One person’s rusty trombone whilst dressed as a Viking is the others missionary in PJs once a week.
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You been looking in my window again?
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
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How have i blamed her you cretin.
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He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies
Now, im not condoning anything here, but there is a submissive tone to her behaviour in the video. Clearly their relationship isnt typical in how they behave towards each other re s3x.
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To be fair, those were two comments about two different videos, and the first, if I remember (which was about the video/audio that was shared on social media) wasn’t what Don thought had happened but how he was saying it might be (mis)interpreted. Juxtaposing those two comments makes what Don said worse than it is.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Don’s stance has been to blame the victim, rather to downplay the potential seriousness of what’s happened so that if Greenwood gets anything less than a lengthy prison sentence he can say he told us so.
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Nope. He clearly says that the first para is his interpretation of the audio. Don't make excuses for him.
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It.is.
What exactly do you THINK is wrong with it?
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I think it wrong that the very last thing we hear on the audio is Mason threatening Harriet if she pushes him again. And you think that is her 'complying' to have s£x with him. You fecking beast.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
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How have i blamed her you cretin.
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He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies
Now, im not condoning anything here, but there is a submissive tone to her behaviour in the video. Clearly their relationship isnt typical in how they behave towards each other re s3x.
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To be fair, those were two comments about two different videos, and the first, if I remember (which was about the video/audio that was shared on social media) wasn’t what Don thought had happened but how he was saying it might be (mis)interpreted. Juxtaposing those two comments makes what Don said worse than it is.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Don’s stance has been to blame the victim, rather to downplay the potential seriousness of what’s happened so that if Greenwood gets anything less than a lengthy prison sentence he can say he told us so.
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Nope. He clearly says that the first para is his interpretation of the audio. Don't make excuses for him.
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It.is.
What exactly do you THINK is wrong with it?
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I think it wrong that the very last thing we hear on the audio is Mason threatening Harriet if she pushes him again. And you think that is her 'complying' to have s£x with him. You fecking beast.
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Tbf maybe she was saying ‘booo urns’.
posted on 1/2/22
Threatens to do what though?
And we dont know why she is pushing him.
Or what non verbal consent she may have given him.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
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How have i blamed her you cretin.
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He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies
Now, im not condoning anything here, but there is a submissive tone to her behaviour in the video. Clearly their relationship isnt typical in how they behave towards each other re s3x.
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To be fair, those were two comments about two different videos, and the first, if I remember (which was about the video/audio that was shared on social media) wasn’t what Don thought had happened but how he was saying it might be (mis)interpreted. Juxtaposing those two comments makes what Don said worse than it is.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think Don’s stance has been to blame the victim, rather to downplay the potential seriousness of what’s happened so that if Greenwood gets anything less than a lengthy prison sentence he can say he told us so.
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Nope. He clearly says that the first para is his interpretation of the audio. Don't make excuses for him.
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Then I’ve misremembered that. I thought on that thread - and some of his comments were doing this - he was trying to play ‘devil’s advocate’, albeit clumsily, by arguing how a defence lawyer in the mould of Keanu Reeves’ character in the film of that name might try to dismantle the evidence.
Believe me, I’ve no wish to make excuses for Don (or anyone else) - I think he’s in the wrong here, just not necessarily for the reasons others are saying. As I say, I think it’s more about setting himself up for an ‘I told you so’ if Greenwood doesn’t get a long sentence.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
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Otheelrs have said they dint think the tape is enough to prove rape. Why aren't you raging at them??
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We weren't discussing whether it was enough to prove rape. I already said on multiple times that it would likely hinge on Harriet's statement.
My issue is with your rapey interpretation of the audio. Fecking weird.
posted on 1/2/22
Thats exactly what iv been doing since day 1 Clockwork.
As for i told you so, who would give a t055 even if i did?
posted on 1/2/22
As I say, I think it’s more about setting himself up for an ‘I told you so’ if Greenwood doesn’t get a long sentence.
———
He usually does that with football (and still ends up being wrong).
But his comments on these kind of subjects are more consistent with his politics and lack of moral fibre.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Threatens to do what though?
And we dont know why she is pushing him.
Or what non verbal consent she may have given him.
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She is pushing him because he is trying to stick his d!ck in her and telling her to get her legs up.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 30 seconds ago
Thats exactly what iv been doing since day 1 Clockwork.
As for i told you so, who would give a t055 even if i did?
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Well, quite
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
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Otheelrs have said they dint think the tape is enough to prove rape. Why aren't you raging at them??
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We weren't discussing whether it was enough to prove rape. I already said on multiple times that it would likely hinge on Harriet's statement.
My issue is with your rapey interpretation of the audio. Fecking weird.
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Nothing weird about looking beyond the obvious for potential explanations you moron.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
Threatens to do what though?
And we dont know why she is pushing him.
Or what non verbal consent she may have given him.
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She is pushing him because he is trying to stick his d!ck in her and telling her to get her legs up.
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But we dont know he was still doing that when she pushed him.
posted on 1/2/22
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
As I say, I think it’s more about setting himself up for an ‘I told you so’ if Greenwood doesn’t get a long sentence.
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He usually does that with football (and still ends up being wrong).
But his comments on these kind of subjects are more consistent with his politics and lack of moral fibre.
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You have said something far more vile than I have on this topic you sad excuse for a man
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
That's his original post:
My interpretation of the audio.
He tries to instigate s3x. She is upset with him over something (possibly him being unfaithful). He crudely pursues her for s3x. She is initially reluctant, but eventually, for want of a better word, complies.
Would I be happy with my daughter being treated this way, hell no. Does it constitute rape, Im not sure.
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Otheelrs have said they dint think the tape is enough to prove rape. Why aren't you raging at them??
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We weren't discussing whether it was enough to prove rape. I already said on multiple times that it would likely hinge on Harriet's statement.
My issue is with your rapey interpretation of the audio. Fecking weird.
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Nothing weird about looking beyond the obvious for potential explanations you moron.
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If you listen to that audio and at the end of it you take from it that she consented to have s£x, then yes, you are weird.
posted on 1/2/22
It was an excellent joke at the expense of a football club that has employed a rapist. Not really comparable to the crap you’ve come out with.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 29 seconds ago
It was an excellent joke at the expense of a football club that has employed a rapist. Not really comparable to the crap you’ve come out with.
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Not even close.
posted on 1/2/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 35 seconds ago
My brother, who is a copper, has heard that they have further arrested him for additional offences. Which he says likely means that they have added the charges as a result of what Harriet has said in her statement regarding things that have happened in the past.
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How could he know what was in her statement?
posted on 1/2/22
With what we know what do you think happened in the incident Don?
In all probability I think it's as bad as it looks/sounds. However, I do accept we don't have the full facts (which could even make it worse).
Everyone here is commenting on what is knows rather than hypotheticals. We all go into the conversation with the basic concept of innocent until proven guilty but, sometimes, the info already out there pretty much tells us what we need to know.
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