Here's my honest thoughts:
I want us to stay in the Prem.
No matter what. fck
I have to be honest here and say I will be amazed if we keep Liverpool down to 2 goals.
We can create chances against anyone in this League but our defending of late has been extremely poor of late - averaging 2 a game this season - thats not a recipe for PL survival.
Defence just not good enough, Bielsa has had 4 years to sort it out but we're as bad as ever, time he went before it's too late. Conceding 10 goals to your arch rivals just isn't acceptable
The only way you can expect anything against Liverpool would be for you to score at least 4 goals.
To the OP , can tall about the effort all.you want, but ultimately conceded 4 goals and 0 points. Had we put that effort into the Newcastle or Everton game we may have taken 6 points, but we didn't! Face it, we are going to be relegated.
The true intentions of the Italian owners are being demonstrated. We need owners who want us to be a top club again and put the investment in.
The current lot are a shambles.
We get accused of being predictable but Manu are exactly that - High press but with better general all round quality but like us a poor defence.
Our defence is like a turkey shoot to their forward players - result concede 10 goals against them.
Mes had a poor game today.
Passing was shocking and beaten far too easy at his near post.
Llorente was probably our worst player today, he was shocking and if koch is fit next game he has to be dropped
Rod was a player and a half today once he switched to the ten role.
James is going to be a hell of a player for us.
Firpo - hit and miss today, was thrown on and struggled but made some good tackles and runs, there is a player there but he needs games and fitness.
Overall for me that second half has to be learnt from.
Rod has to start at ten, llorente has to be dropped.
And if you do that then I would go with raph and James on the wings which leaves you with geldheardt as your forward.
i just dont understand how mctominey wasnt sent off. should have been booked for foul on koch and wasnt. always thought if an injury occurred then you give card but obviously a bust head isnt an injury. then he does eventually get booked in second half and couple minutes later takes out firpo and this is wher im confused as my iptv fronze as ref was running over and it froze with him reaching for his pocket plain as day so i thought he was gone and when tv came back on raph was getting a yellow and mct was still on
comment by kernowekLeeds (U10930)
posted 3 minutes ago
To the OP , can tall about the effort all.you want, but ultimately conceded 4 goals and 0 points. Had we put that effort into the Newcastle or Everton game we may have taken 6 points, but we didn't! Face it, we are going to be relegated.
The true intentions of the Italian owners are being demonstrated. We need owners who want us to be a top club again and put the investment in.
The current lot are a shambles.
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I was expecting us to conceded 4 today, it's not a surprise the way we are this year, but we competed the whole way and against lesser sides if we play like that we'll get the points we need to stay up.
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 8 minutes ago
Defence just not good enough, Bielsa has had 4 years to sort it out but we're as bad as ever, time he went before it's too late. Conceding 10 goals to your arch rivals just isn't acceptable
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3rd lowest goals conceded gainst in his first season
Lowest conceded his second season
11th in his third season, so middle of the pack and pretty much in line with where we finished last season in the league.
Yes we are shipping too many, but you are talking horse crap when you say this is a problem we have always had
LDL - I Watched, no freezing involved and I'm still bemused how McTominay stayed on the pitch - talk about poor refereeing.
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 1 minute ago
LDL - I Watched, no freezing involved and I'm still bemused how McTominay stayed on the pitch - talk about poor refereeing.
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picture froze clear as day ref was reaching for pocket so what happened. i presume he chickened out of giving it but why was raph booked
Raph was angry with the challenge and there was a bit of handbags - booked accordingly
Surely a mistake not counting Kochs substitution as a concussion injury. Couple of players were out in their feet last 10 minutes and another sub might have made a difference.
Really not looking forward to the next game. As well as playing a very good team we have not been able to play 2 games in 3 days.
Really not l
think the bindippers will do to us what city did and not full of confidence after another probable thrashing that we will offer anything against spurs. we are in it up to our neck and those who think we will stay up easy are deluded. time to dig in and battle hard and less off the kamikaze defending
Nothing has changed regards defending over the entire time Bielsa has been in charge.
We're ****ing useless running around like ****ing idiots. Keystone cops anyone
A comment on not 606...... seems he agrees
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nothing has changed regards defending over the entire time Bielsa has been in charge.
We're ****ing useless running around like ****ing idiots. Keystone cops anyone
A comment on not 606...... seems he agrees
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please just crawl of back to your hole you horrible excuse for a human. never anything good to say and always trying to wind people up. go get your puncture repair kit and male blow up doll out again and lighten up and better still stay of here. Only time you give us pwace is when we win then no one sees you
comment by LDL-Potato Picker and Proud (U6788)
posted 1 minute ago
think the bindippers will do to us what city did and not full of confidence after another probable thrashing that we will offer anything against spurs. we are in it up to our neck and those who think we will stay up easy are deluded. time to dig in and battle hard and less off the kamikaze defending
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Sadly I think you are right. The Scousers are a much better side than the lot we just played. Defending as we have been lately we could be in for a real drubbing.
I have thought for a long time, those on here saying "we will stay up comfortably" and "there are plenty of sides worse than us, we have no worries" were kidding themselves.
We are conceding so many soft goals, we now have the second worse GD in the league. Only Norwich have a worse one.
Again some on here were saying they could not see Newcastle, Watford, Norwich suddenly improving enough to be a threat to us. We have since lost to Newcastle. Watford and Norwich are showing signs of improvement whereas our form has plummeted. We have to play Norwich and Watford again this season.
I hope and pray that we pull out of this tailspin we are in but I am very nervous
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Sorry but after today's defeat I am for the first time this season very worried that we will get relegated.
Teams that concede the amount we have so far rarely survive in this league.
Lorente is horrific defending corners and his positional awareness leaves us so exposed. At least Bielsa recognised that and subbed him at HT.
Struiyk did make a couple of errors but I'd still prefer him to Lorente and put him alongside Ayling or Cresswell if Koch and Cooper are not available.
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 1 minute ago
Sorry what have you just commented, you two faced tw@t
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You're a poor excuse for a Leeds fan. We all know our limitations and weaknesses but the only reason you come on this site is to criticize the team never to say something positive when we win or play well.
It's boring.
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 14 minutes ago
Sorry what have you just commented, you two faced tw@t
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Lowfields do yourself and everyone else a favour and for your own mental health.
Go down tomorrow to your local JD sports store, buy a Manchester City shirt with Dr Bruynes name on the back and go and support them, because Leeds United are not the club for a manic depressive.
Another very depressing result. It was probably completely exhausting, playing in those conditions. Hope they still have something in the tank for Liverpool.
McTominay should've seen red for that late challenge on Koch.
Llorente needs to have a word with himself.
Interesting that Gelhardt got the nod over Roberts today.
That's about all I can muster - I'm just gutted - they did us, again!
Positives
* Was an enjoyable game
* Cant fault the effort or attitude
* Good character 2nd half
Negatives
* We're the gift that keeps on giving (Defending)
* How did we concede 4 to that lot? Worst Man U team ive seen in my 31 years
* Why didn't they play the concussion sub for Koch
* Why do we persist with faffing about with the ball at the back, that 4th goal was shocking
* Lack of depth is hurting, Firpo looked well off it
We look miles off last season, where is that side? We're we riding the promotion wave? Raph looks like his head has gone elsewhere, Rodrigo was abysmal, Geldhart should be playing in the Championship. Good game 2nd half but we aint staying up if we continue to give goals away like we did today.
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posted on 20/2/22
Here's my honest thoughts:
I want us to stay in the Prem.
No matter what. fck
posted on 20/2/22
I have to be honest here and say I will be amazed if we keep Liverpool down to 2 goals.
We can create chances against anyone in this League but our defending of late has been extremely poor of late - averaging 2 a game this season - thats not a recipe for PL survival.
posted on 20/2/22
Defence just not good enough, Bielsa has had 4 years to sort it out but we're as bad as ever, time he went before it's too late. Conceding 10 goals to your arch rivals just isn't acceptable
posted on 20/2/22
The only way you can expect anything against Liverpool would be for you to score at least 4 goals.
posted on 20/2/22
To the OP , can tall about the effort all.you want, but ultimately conceded 4 goals and 0 points. Had we put that effort into the Newcastle or Everton game we may have taken 6 points, but we didn't! Face it, we are going to be relegated.
The true intentions of the Italian owners are being demonstrated. We need owners who want us to be a top club again and put the investment in.
The current lot are a shambles.
posted on 20/2/22
We get accused of being predictable but Manu are exactly that - High press but with better general all round quality but like us a poor defence.
Our defence is like a turkey shoot to their forward players - result concede 10 goals against them.
posted on 20/2/22
Mes had a poor game today.
Passing was shocking and beaten far too easy at his near post.
Llorente was probably our worst player today, he was shocking and if koch is fit next game he has to be dropped
Rod was a player and a half today once he switched to the ten role.
James is going to be a hell of a player for us.
Firpo - hit and miss today, was thrown on and struggled but made some good tackles and runs, there is a player there but he needs games and fitness.
Overall for me that second half has to be learnt from.
Rod has to start at ten, llorente has to be dropped.
And if you do that then I would go with raph and James on the wings which leaves you with geldheardt as your forward.
posted on 20/2/22
I like your logic Matty.
posted on 20/2/22
i just dont understand how mctominey wasnt sent off. should have been booked for foul on koch and wasnt. always thought if an injury occurred then you give card but obviously a bust head isnt an injury. then he does eventually get booked in second half and couple minutes later takes out firpo and this is wher im confused as my iptv fronze as ref was running over and it froze with him reaching for his pocket plain as day so i thought he was gone and when tv came back on raph was getting a yellow and mct was still on
posted on 20/2/22
comment by kernowekLeeds (U10930)
posted 3 minutes ago
To the OP , can tall about the effort all.you want, but ultimately conceded 4 goals and 0 points. Had we put that effort into the Newcastle or Everton game we may have taken 6 points, but we didn't! Face it, we are going to be relegated.
The true intentions of the Italian owners are being demonstrated. We need owners who want us to be a top club again and put the investment in.
The current lot are a shambles.
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I was expecting us to conceded 4 today, it's not a surprise the way we are this year, but we competed the whole way and against lesser sides if we play like that we'll get the points we need to stay up.
posted on 20/2/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 8 minutes ago
Defence just not good enough, Bielsa has had 4 years to sort it out but we're as bad as ever, time he went before it's too late. Conceding 10 goals to your arch rivals just isn't acceptable
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3rd lowest goals conceded gainst in his first season
Lowest conceded his second season
11th in his third season, so middle of the pack and pretty much in line with where we finished last season in the league.
Yes we are shipping too many, but you are talking horse crap when you say this is a problem we have always had
posted on 20/2/22
LDL - I Watched, no freezing involved and I'm still bemused how McTominay stayed on the pitch - talk about poor refereeing.
posted on 20/2/22
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 1 minute ago
LDL - I Watched, no freezing involved and I'm still bemused how McTominay stayed on the pitch - talk about poor refereeing.
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picture froze clear as day ref was reaching for pocket so what happened. i presume he chickened out of giving it but why was raph booked
posted on 20/2/22
Raph was angry with the challenge and there was a bit of handbags - booked accordingly
posted on 20/2/22
Surely a mistake not counting Kochs substitution as a concussion injury. Couple of players were out in their feet last 10 minutes and another sub might have made a difference.
Really not looking forward to the next game. As well as playing a very good team we have not been able to play 2 games in 3 days.
Really not l
posted on 20/2/22
think the bindippers will do to us what city did and not full of confidence after another probable thrashing that we will offer anything against spurs. we are in it up to our neck and those who think we will stay up easy are deluded. time to dig in and battle hard and less off the kamikaze defending
posted on 20/2/22
Nothing has changed regards defending over the entire time Bielsa has been in charge.
We're ****ing useless running around like ****ing idiots. Keystone cops anyone
A comment on not 606...... seems he agrees
posted on 20/2/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nothing has changed regards defending over the entire time Bielsa has been in charge.
We're ****ing useless running around like ****ing idiots. Keystone cops anyone
A comment on not 606...... seems he agrees
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please just crawl of back to your hole you horrible excuse for a human. never anything good to say and always trying to wind people up. go get your puncture repair kit and male blow up doll out again and lighten up and better still stay of here. Only time you give us pwace is when we win then no one sees you
posted on 20/2/22
comment by LDL-Potato Picker and Proud (U6788)
posted 1 minute ago
think the bindippers will do to us what city did and not full of confidence after another probable thrashing that we will offer anything against spurs. we are in it up to our neck and those who think we will stay up easy are deluded. time to dig in and battle hard and less off the kamikaze defending
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Sadly I think you are right. The Scousers are a much better side than the lot we just played. Defending as we have been lately we could be in for a real drubbing.
I have thought for a long time, those on here saying "we will stay up comfortably" and "there are plenty of sides worse than us, we have no worries" were kidding themselves.
We are conceding so many soft goals, we now have the second worse GD in the league. Only Norwich have a worse one.
Again some on here were saying they could not see Newcastle, Watford, Norwich suddenly improving enough to be a threat to us. We have since lost to Newcastle. Watford and Norwich are showing signs of improvement whereas our form has plummeted. We have to play Norwich and Watford again this season.
I hope and pray that we pull out of this tailspin we are in but I am very nervous
posted on 20/2/22
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posted on 20/2/22
Sorry but after today's defeat I am for the first time this season very worried that we will get relegated.
Teams that concede the amount we have so far rarely survive in this league.
Lorente is horrific defending corners and his positional awareness leaves us so exposed. At least Bielsa recognised that and subbed him at HT.
Struiyk did make a couple of errors but I'd still prefer him to Lorente and put him alongside Ayling or Cresswell if Koch and Cooper are not available.
posted on 20/2/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 1 minute ago
Sorry what have you just commented, you two faced tw@t
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You're a poor excuse for a Leeds fan. We all know our limitations and weaknesses but the only reason you come on this site is to criticize the team never to say something positive when we win or play well.
It's boring.
posted on 20/2/22
comment by Lowfields73 (U21886)
posted 14 minutes ago
Sorry what have you just commented, you two faced tw@t
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Lowfields do yourself and everyone else a favour and for your own mental health.
Go down tomorrow to your local JD sports store, buy a Manchester City shirt with Dr Bruynes name on the back and go and support them, because Leeds United are not the club for a manic depressive.
posted on 20/2/22
Another very depressing result. It was probably completely exhausting, playing in those conditions. Hope they still have something in the tank for Liverpool.
McTominay should've seen red for that late challenge on Koch.
Llorente needs to have a word with himself.
Interesting that Gelhardt got the nod over Roberts today.
That's about all I can muster - I'm just gutted - they did us, again!
posted on 20/2/22
Positives
* Was an enjoyable game
* Cant fault the effort or attitude
* Good character 2nd half
Negatives
* We're the gift that keeps on giving (Defending)
* How did we concede 4 to that lot? Worst Man U team ive seen in my 31 years
* Why didn't they play the concussion sub for Koch
* Why do we persist with faffing about with the ball at the back, that 4th goal was shocking
* Lack of depth is hurting, Firpo looked well off it
We look miles off last season, where is that side? We're we riding the promotion wave? Raph looks like his head has gone elsewhere, Rodrigo was abysmal, Geldhart should be playing in the Championship. Good game 2nd half but we aint staying up if we continue to give goals away like we did today.
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