hof

its not a myth

we had to let the two of scotlands last top scorers go because we couldnt afford their wages, no new money was made available to the manager for three seasons, any money he wanted to spend he had to generate by selling players and reducing the wage bill
to buy jellavic he had to sell, thomson, wilson miller adam, previously he sold mendes and adam, not because he wanted to but because he had to
hell even celtic could gazump us to a lower league player during their big annual january splash out because they could pay him more, just some facts

How many millions did wee Jim get to spend on international footballers to win the title, reach a Euro semi and a UEFA final?

So now he never wanted to sell Adam, is that because bears do not want to accept that selling him was a regret?

Did Davis, Bageera, Whittaker, Lafferty, Edu, McCulloch, Beattie and Jelavic all sign on free transfers?

Vic

He believes that it doesn't count as spending if you've already sold

mclean done wonders at dundee united .late 70s early 80s they were bringing a lot of good young players out of the tannadice youth and reserve teams.same as fergie at aberdeen played the same 14 or 15 players every week.

why do dhimms think football is only about tranfer fees?

there is an awful lot more to it than just spending money on a player

you also have to pay him a sometimes hefty wage bill

and of course you have to coach him and get him to fit into your system and team

I know Hof. Ye just canny argue with that logic.----.

(U1444) --- Rangers raised a fotrune but also spent a fortune no matter how you try and dress it up.

We are not saying Walter Smith was a bad manager, we are saying he did have money to spend. I think Mclean did much better, to take a team such as Dundee United to where he did was excellent.

hof

i didnt say that,

lets not forget that tims told us constantly that we were skint, had a tiny squad and that celtic were mega rich, was that all just porkies?

"oh wait till injuries and suspentions kick in with your threadbare squad"


yea then what?

celtic bhoy

you are perfectly entitled to think jim mclean is better than walter, just dont expect everyone to agree, i dont even think wee jum would agree

I think ye'll find it wiz the Bears who wurny any gid at counting the cost of transfer fees

I just think Jim is forgotten about a lot in Scottish Football's history. Smith did an excellent job to pick Rangers up from where they are. But he did not do to well at Everton, though? Taking one of the Old Firm to a cup final in Europe is an incredible achievement, but Dundee United that is much harder.

"We are not saying Walter Smith was a bad manager, we are saying he did have money to spend. I think Mclean did much better, to take a team such as Dundee United to where he did was excellent.".........



Exactly the_celtic-bhoy. They claim walter did it with no money...which is pie in the sky....he had a team with 3 and 4 million quid players in it.....wee Jim on the other hand did it with some magic beans......

Hof

I agree, he hasnt done it with no money, but u also have to say the money he has used has been generated (1st season excluded) from selling his best players and ones he used the 1st season money to buy. U cant say he isnt as good a manager cause he had money to spend.

Great managers win. We had just as much money to spend the season b4 he came back, n look what happened.

vic its not about money

its about ability

wee jim taught walter, but it was different eras, wee jim didnt spend much because it wasnt the done thing in those days for scottish football, therefore you cant compare

(U1444) --Im not taking anything away from Walter btw, I just think Smith had massive resources compared to McLean..which is why I feel wee Jims success was more impressive.

id liked to seen mcleans teams if he had had a few million to spend

vic its completely different eras

if wee jim gets overlooked its not walters fault

fergie has spent trillions on players at manu, but he didnt spend a lot at aberdeen, still did remarkably well

U cant compare the 80's to now anyway. A 2m player nowadays would be worth how much then? Prob pennies.

The only way to win anythin when bringing players through from youth nowadays costs way more than anythin walter has spent in the last 4 year.

Laffavic

More than £4million on Jelavic ma mahn?

Hof
What comment u referrin to?

Your wan before that wan

You desperate wum tims just get worse and worse. You can't compare the 2. Simple as that. You lot are trippin!