Transfermarkt is generally great but notoriously shat at transfer values - they have Goldson at £7.2m, for example
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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"repeat injuries are common", thats the same as injury prone.
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The hamstring and thigh are areas where repeat injuries are common. That is not controversial. It is also not the same as saying player X or Y is injury prone. I think this is an example of you misinterpreting what I’ve actually said. Which is your choice of course. But it’s not helpful.
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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Morelos hasn’t had this issue before. It’s an issues he’s clearly played through and made worse.
Likewise for hamstring injury, it’s a common injury… And no idea whether it’s the same one each time
What your saying is laughable
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
Transfermarkt is generally great but notoriously shat at transfer values - they have Goldson at £7.2m, for example
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its good for stats but the valuations are way off.... tbf i dont know how often they are updated
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 0 seconds ago
Transfermarkt is generally great but notoriously shat at transfer values - they have Goldson at £7.2m, for example
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And
CCV £2.7m (yes please!)
Calmac and Turnbull with <£1m valuation difference
etc.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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Morelos hasn’t had this issue before. It’s an issues he’s clearly played through and made worse.
Likewise for hamstring injury, it’s a common injury… And no idea whether it’s the same one each time
What your saying is laughable
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Hamstring injuries are common. A player having multiple hamstring injuries would cause a club looking to purchase said player a concern. It doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t buy said player, but it would be a concern.
That you think it would have 0 impact on the thinking is what is laughable. Morelos aggravating an injury as he appears to have done is also an obvious concern for a potential purchasing club. It may impact what they are willing to pay. This is obvious.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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Morelos hasn’t had this issue before. It’s an issues he’s clearly played through and made worse.
Likewise for hamstring injury, it’s a common injury… And no idea whether it’s the same one each time
What your saying is laughable
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Hamstring injuries are common. A player having multiple hamstring injuries would cause a club looking to purchase said player a concern. It doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t buy said player, but it would be a concern.
That you think it would have 0 impact on the thinking is what is laughable. Morelos aggravating an injury as he appears to have done is also an obvious concern for a potential purchasing club. It may impact what they are willing to pay. This is obvious.
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tell us more about the multiple injury layoffs of this repeat injury to Morelos..... own what you say
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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Morelos hasn’t had this issue before. It’s an issues he’s clearly played through and made worse.
Likewise for hamstring injury, it’s a common injury… And no idea whether it’s the same one each time
What your saying is laughable
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Hamstring injuries are common. A player having multiple hamstring injuries would cause a club looking to purchase said player a concern. It doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t buy said player, but it would be a concern.
That you think it would have 0 impact on the thinking is what is laughable. Morelos aggravating an injury as he appears to have done is also an obvious concern for a potential purchasing club. It may impact what they are willing to pay. This is obvious.
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tell us more about the multiple injury layoffs of this repeat injury to Morelos..... own what you say
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You should try properly reading what I’ve written and not just misinterpreting to jump to wrong conclusions 👍
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posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
after 5 years i dont think we need to worry about the hip knock that kept him out of 1 game, and a calf knock which he missed 1 game over 2 years ago which thankfully hasnt flared up again and ruined him.
This is the only real injury he has ever had in his career, but yeah im sure suitors will be worried of these multiple injuries flaring back up again
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posted 27 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
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So now you’ve moved on from trying to misinterpret what I’m saying (good) to suggesting I’m “clutching at straws”. Not sure what straws you think I’m clutching at but hey ho. If you’re happy believing that a players injury history and indeed current injury status plays no part in what clubs would be willing to spend on a player then you do you!
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
after 5 years i dont think we need to worry about the hip knock that kept him out of 1 game, and a calf knock which he missed 1 game over 2 years ago which thankfully hasnt flared up again and ruined him.
This is the only real injury he has ever had in his career, but yeah im sure suitors will be worried of these multiple injuries flaring back up again
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Again, if you don’t think injury history or current injury status could impact what a club is willing to spend on a player; you do do 🤷♂️
Course injury history is taken into account, Morelos’ injury history will have a positive impact on his value given how few he’s had. Why what your saying is laughable.
They don’t have much of an injury history, likely any other targets for prospective buyers will have a worse history.
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
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So now you’ve moved on from trying to misinterpret what I’m saying (good) to suggesting I’m “clutching at straws”. Not sure what straws you think I’m clutching at but hey ho. If you’re happy believing that a players injury history and indeed current injury status plays no part in what clubs would be willing to spend on a player then you do you!
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I literally quoted you ""and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)." you literally said both have had MULTIPLE injury layoffs , with Morelos' thigh, this is the first thigh injury he has ever had, and really the only proper injury he has ever had.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
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So now you’ve moved on from trying to misinterpret what I’m saying (good) to suggesting I’m “clutching at straws”. Not sure what straws you think I’m clutching at but hey ho. If you’re happy believing that a players injury history and indeed current injury status plays no part in what clubs would be willing to spend on a player then you do you!
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I literally quoted you ""and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)." you literally said both have had MULTIPLE injury layoffs , with Morelos' thigh, this is the first thigh injury he has ever had, and really the only proper injury he has ever had.
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Both Kent and Morelos have had multiple injury layoffs - true
Those injuries have come to parts of the body where repeat injuries are not uncommon - true.
there is an argument to be had since Kent has actually had multiple injuries of the same area (without actually knowing if they are similar) , but the morelos one is just nuts.... the guy is a machine who is known for not getting injured... if anything his robustness is one of his biggest attributes.
Admit it you made a total ar$e of this
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
Course injury history is taken into account, Morelos’ injury history will have a positive impact on his value given how few he’s had. Why what your saying is laughable.
They don’t have much of an injury history, likely any other targets for prospective buyers will have a worse history.
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His current injury will work in the negative direction.
Let me pose you a thought experiment;
2 players. Same age. Same skill. Same position. Same experience. One has had 0 injuries. The other has had 3 hamstring injuries in 4 seasons and missed almost 30 games across those injuries. Which one would you pay more for?
Which part of the legs are there that you don’t see repeat injuries in footballers
Absolute nonsense. The injury history of Kent and Morelos simply has a positive impact on their value, or at least not a negative onr
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 47 seconds ago
there is an argument to be had since Kent has actually had multiple injuries of the same area (without actually knowing if they are similar) , but the morelos one is just nuts.... the guy is a machine who is known for not getting injured... if anything his robustness is one of his biggest attributes.
Admit it you made a total ar$e of this
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Mate you misread what I was saying as “they’re injury prone”. I wasn’t saying that. I wouldn’t even go so far as to say that. If you had read what I’d written properly then you would’ve saved yourself pages.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
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So now you’ve moved on from trying to misinterpret what I’m saying (good) to suggesting I’m “clutching at straws”. Not sure what straws you think I’m clutching at but hey ho. If you’re happy believing that a players injury history and indeed current injury status plays no part in what clubs would be willing to spend on a player then you do you!
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I literally quoted you ""and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)." you literally said both have had MULTIPLE injury layoffs , with Morelos' thigh, this is the first thigh injury he has ever had, and really the only proper injury he has ever had.
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Both Kent and Morelos have had multiple injury layoffs - true
Those injuries have come to parts of the body where repeat injuries are not uncommon - true.
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morelos has not had multiple injury lay offs No.... unless you consider missing one game with a sore calf over 2 years ago, and missing 1 game with a sore over 5 years. Neither were actual proper injuries otherwise he would have been out longer than 5 days!
If you include those two as genuine lay offs then that surely then applies to every single player playing the game. I dont know any regular player half way through their career who has never gotten at least a knock. not a single player, ever in the history of the game
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
Course injury history is taken into account, Morelos’ injury history will have a positive impact on his value given how few he’s had. Why what your saying is laughable.
They don’t have much of an injury history, likely any other targets for prospective buyers will have a worse history.
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His current injury will work in the negative direction.
Let me pose you a thought experiment;
2 players. Same age. Same skill. Same position. Same experience. One has had 0 injuries. The other has had 3 hamstring injuries in 4 seasons and missed almost 30 games across those injuries. Which one would you pay more for?
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Which hypothetical player are you referring to here
GG, Kyogo and Jota. First two a lot worse history than Morelos. Jota similar to Kent but not played as much football I’d guess.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 seconds ago
Which part of the legs are there that you don’t see repeat injuries in footballers
Absolute nonsense. The injury history of Kent and Morelos simply has a positive impact on their value, or at least not a negative onr
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You don’t see many repeat heel injuries.
And wait, you think multiple hamstring injuries for a player has a positive impact on their transfer value? Or an aggregated injury to an area where repeat injuries are common?
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 seconds ago
Which part of the legs are there that you don’t see repeat injuries in footballers
Absolute nonsense. The injury history of Kent and Morelos simply has a positive impact on their value, or at least not a negative onr
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You don’t see many repeat heel injuries.
And wait, you think multiple hamstring injuries for a player has a positive impact on their transfer value? Or an aggregated injury to an area where repeat injuries are common?
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Aye you wouldn’t ever hear of an achillies heel being referred to, or used as a term for a weakness…
John Souttar sure wishes you were right
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posted on 6/4/22
Transfermarkt is generally great but notoriously shat at transfer values - they have Goldson at £7.2m, for example
posted on 6/4/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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"repeat injuries are common", thats the same as injury prone.
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The hamstring and thigh are areas where repeat injuries are common. That is not controversial. It is also not the same as saying player X or Y is injury prone. I think this is an example of you misinterpreting what I’ve actually said. Which is your choice of course. But it’s not helpful.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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Morelos hasn’t had this issue before. It’s an issues he’s clearly played through and made worse.
Likewise for hamstring injury, it’s a common injury… And no idea whether it’s the same one each time
What your saying is laughable
posted on 6/4/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
Transfermarkt is generally great but notoriously shat at transfer values - they have Goldson at £7.2m, for example
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its good for stats but the valuations are way off.... tbf i dont know how often they are updated
posted on 6/4/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 0 seconds ago
Transfermarkt is generally great but notoriously shat at transfer values - they have Goldson at £7.2m, for example
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And
CCV £2.7m (yes please!)
Calmac and Turnbull with <£1m valuation difference
etc.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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Morelos hasn’t had this issue before. It’s an issues he’s clearly played through and made worse.
Likewise for hamstring injury, it’s a common injury… And no idea whether it’s the same one each time
What your saying is laughable
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Hamstring injuries are common. A player having multiple hamstring injuries would cause a club looking to purchase said player a concern. It doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t buy said player, but it would be a concern.
That you think it would have 0 impact on the thinking is what is laughable. Morelos aggravating an injury as he appears to have done is also an obvious concern for a potential purchasing club. It may impact what they are willing to pay. This is obvious.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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Morelos hasn’t had this issue before. It’s an issues he’s clearly played through and made worse.
Likewise for hamstring injury, it’s a common injury… And no idea whether it’s the same one each time
What your saying is laughable
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Hamstring injuries are common. A player having multiple hamstring injuries would cause a club looking to purchase said player a concern. It doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t buy said player, but it would be a concern.
That you think it would have 0 impact on the thinking is what is laughable. Morelos aggravating an injury as he appears to have done is also an obvious concern for a potential purchasing club. It may impact what they are willing to pay. This is obvious.
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tell us more about the multiple injury layoffs of this repeat injury to Morelos..... own what you say
posted on 6/4/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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I don’t think anyone is saying their they’re injury prone? What I am saying is that Kent has now had 3 injuries in 4 seasons in the same part of the body, and that I suspect that will have some influence on the amount of money clubs may be willing to pay for him. Similarly Morelos and his current layoff. Not sure why that’s seen as controversial 😂
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Morelos hasn’t had this issue before. It’s an issues he’s clearly played through and made worse.
Likewise for hamstring injury, it’s a common injury… And no idea whether it’s the same one each time
What your saying is laughable
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Hamstring injuries are common. A player having multiple hamstring injuries would cause a club looking to purchase said player a concern. It doesn’t necessarily mean they wouldn’t buy said player, but it would be a concern.
That you think it would have 0 impact on the thinking is what is laughable. Morelos aggravating an injury as he appears to have done is also an obvious concern for a potential purchasing club. It may impact what they are willing to pay. This is obvious.
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tell us more about the multiple injury layoffs of this repeat injury to Morelos..... own what you say
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You should try properly reading what I’ve written and not just misinterpreting to jump to wrong conclusions 👍
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
posted on 6/4/22
after 5 years i dont think we need to worry about the hip knock that kept him out of 1 game, and a calf knock which he missed 1 game over 2 years ago which thankfully hasnt flared up again and ruined him.
This is the only real injury he has ever had in his career, but yeah im sure suitors will be worried of these multiple injuries flaring back up again
posted on 6/4/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
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So now you’ve moved on from trying to misinterpret what I’m saying (good) to suggesting I’m “clutching at straws”. Not sure what straws you think I’m clutching at but hey ho. If you’re happy believing that a players injury history and indeed current injury status plays no part in what clubs would be willing to spend on a player then you do you!
posted on 6/4/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
after 5 years i dont think we need to worry about the hip knock that kept him out of 1 game, and a calf knock which he missed 1 game over 2 years ago which thankfully hasnt flared up again and ruined him.
This is the only real injury he has ever had in his career, but yeah im sure suitors will be worried of these multiple injuries flaring back up again
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Again, if you don’t think injury history or current injury status could impact what a club is willing to spend on a player; you do do 🤷♂️
posted on 6/4/22
Course injury history is taken into account, Morelos’ injury history will have a positive impact on his value given how few he’s had. Why what your saying is laughable.
They don’t have much of an injury history, likely any other targets for prospective buyers will have a worse history.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
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So now you’ve moved on from trying to misinterpret what I’m saying (good) to suggesting I’m “clutching at straws”. Not sure what straws you think I’m clutching at but hey ho. If you’re happy believing that a players injury history and indeed current injury status plays no part in what clubs would be willing to spend on a player then you do you!
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I literally quoted you ""and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)." you literally said both have had MULTIPLE injury layoffs , with Morelos' thigh, this is the first thigh injury he has ever had, and really the only proper injury he has ever had.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
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So now you’ve moved on from trying to misinterpret what I’m saying (good) to suggesting I’m “clutching at straws”. Not sure what straws you think I’m clutching at but hey ho. If you’re happy believing that a players injury history and indeed current injury status plays no part in what clubs would be willing to spend on a player then you do you!
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I literally quoted you ""and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)." you literally said both have had MULTIPLE injury layoffs , with Morelos' thigh, this is the first thigh injury he has ever had, and really the only proper injury he has ever had.
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Both Kent and Morelos have had multiple injury layoffs - true
Those injuries have come to parts of the body where repeat injuries are not uncommon - true.
posted on 6/4/22
there is an argument to be had since Kent has actually had multiple injuries of the same area (without actually knowing if they are similar) , but the morelos one is just nuts.... the guy is a machine who is known for not getting injured... if anything his robustness is one of his biggest attributes.
Admit it you made a total ar$e of this
posted on 6/4/22
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
Course injury history is taken into account, Morelos’ injury history will have a positive impact on his value given how few he’s had. Why what your saying is laughable.
They don’t have much of an injury history, likely any other targets for prospective buyers will have a worse history.
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His current injury will work in the negative direction.
Let me pose you a thought experiment;
2 players. Same age. Same skill. Same position. Same experience. One has had 0 injuries. The other has had 3 hamstring injuries in 4 seasons and missed almost 30 games across those injuries. Which one would you pay more for?
posted on 6/4/22
Which part of the legs are there that you don’t see repeat injuries in footballers
Absolute nonsense. The injury history of Kent and Morelos simply has a positive impact on their value, or at least not a negative onr
posted on 6/4/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 47 seconds ago
there is an argument to be had since Kent has actually had multiple injuries of the same area (without actually knowing if they are similar) , but the morelos one is just nuts.... the guy is a machine who is known for not getting injured... if anything his robustness is one of his biggest attributes.
Admit it you made a total ar$e of this
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Mate you misread what I was saying as “they’re injury prone”. I wasn’t saying that. I wouldn’t even go so far as to say that. If you had read what I’d written properly then you would’ve saved yourself pages.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 6 seconds ago
Actual nonsense to say Ryan Kent or Morelos are injury prone. Majority of players get an injury at some point or another
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the morelos one was particularly funny, he is known for being injury resistant, not the other way around
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If you choose to either deliberately or erroneously misinterpret what people are saying in good faith, then I’m sure lots of things can be funny 🤷♂️
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"and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)."
is what you wrote..... you literally said morelos has had multiple repeat injuries
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I said Morelos has had multiple injuries where repeat injuries are common. He’s had thigh (which he has apparently aggravated further) plus he’s had calf and hip injury related issues.
You can surely see that;
He has had multiple repeat injuries
Is NOT the same as
He has had multiple injuries to parts of the body where repeat injuries are common,
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he had a sore calf nearly 2.5 years ago that kept him out 1 week. and a "hip injury" which kept him out 5 days 5 years ago! thats all ... in 7 years !!
FFS this is straw grasping at its finest
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So now you’ve moved on from trying to misinterpret what I’m saying (good) to suggesting I’m “clutching at straws”. Not sure what straws you think I’m clutching at but hey ho. If you’re happy believing that a players injury history and indeed current injury status plays no part in what clubs would be willing to spend on a player then you do you!
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I literally quoted you ""and from what I can tell both have had multiple injury layoffs with areas where repeat injuries are common (thigh and hamstring respectively)." you literally said both have had MULTIPLE injury layoffs , with Morelos' thigh, this is the first thigh injury he has ever had, and really the only proper injury he has ever had.
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Both Kent and Morelos have had multiple injury layoffs - true
Those injuries have come to parts of the body where repeat injuries are not uncommon - true.
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morelos has not had multiple injury lay offs No.... unless you consider missing one game with a sore calf over 2 years ago, and missing 1 game with a sore over 5 years. Neither were actual proper injuries otherwise he would have been out longer than 5 days!
If you include those two as genuine lay offs then that surely then applies to every single player playing the game. I dont know any regular player half way through their career who has never gotten at least a knock. not a single player, ever in the history of the game
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
Course injury history is taken into account, Morelos’ injury history will have a positive impact on his value given how few he’s had. Why what your saying is laughable.
They don’t have much of an injury history, likely any other targets for prospective buyers will have a worse history.
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His current injury will work in the negative direction.
Let me pose you a thought experiment;
2 players. Same age. Same skill. Same position. Same experience. One has had 0 injuries. The other has had 3 hamstring injuries in 4 seasons and missed almost 30 games across those injuries. Which one would you pay more for?
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Which hypothetical player are you referring to here
GG, Kyogo and Jota. First two a lot worse history than Morelos. Jota similar to Kent but not played as much football I’d guess.
posted on 6/4/22
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 seconds ago
Which part of the legs are there that you don’t see repeat injuries in footballers
Absolute nonsense. The injury history of Kent and Morelos simply has a positive impact on their value, or at least not a negative onr
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You don’t see many repeat heel injuries.
And wait, you think multiple hamstring injuries for a player has a positive impact on their transfer value? Or an aggregated injury to an area where repeat injuries are common?
posted on 6/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 seconds ago
Which part of the legs are there that you don’t see repeat injuries in footballers
Absolute nonsense. The injury history of Kent and Morelos simply has a positive impact on their value, or at least not a negative onr
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You don’t see many repeat heel injuries.
And wait, you think multiple hamstring injuries for a player has a positive impact on their transfer value? Or an aggregated injury to an area where repeat injuries are common?
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Aye you wouldn’t ever hear of an achillies heel being referred to, or used as a term for a weakness…
John Souttar sure wishes you were right
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