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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
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Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I'm not going to argue. If that's the way you see it so be it.
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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How often does DDG get caught one on one like that though?
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He'd get caught a lot more if we played a high line ffs... Especially when he's not keen on leaving his line
You know this though.... Even you aren't this stupid
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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He is from long range
Close in these days not so much
Plenty of times when de gea should be making himself big, he turns away from the ball... He's almost scared
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comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 3 minutes ago
Shaw cover Maguire? Ain’t it usually Maguire getting pulled out wide, cos Shaw has gone up? Thus causing a reaction, where the entire back line come in, including AWB, who then is leaving space behind him.
And cos we have a lazy ass in Rashy who doesn’t track back, we are always punished.
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Its Maguire who is the issue. He steps up but cant recover, and constantly lets runners get across him, meaning Shaw has to try and cover.
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100. Totally agree Maguire is the main issue in defence.
Makes it worse, that he’s the Captain.
Everyone saying what does CR7 think about him, what does Varane think?!
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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How often does DDG get caught one on one like that though?
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He'd get caught a lot more if we played a high line ffs... Especially when he's not keen on leaving his line
You know this though.... Even you aren't this stupid
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I fail to see how he has been deemed unable to.do something he has never been asked to do.
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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Glad i could help you
DDG is one of the most overrated goalkeepers I have ever seen. Makes some good reflex saves which look great to the casuals. Doesn't dominate his box, mediocre on crosses, has a mistake in him, distribution not great. Not in the top 5 goalkeepers in the premiership.
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 17 minutes ago
DDG is one of the most overrated goalkeepers I have ever seen. Makes some good reflex saves which look great to the casuals. Doesn't dominate his box, mediocre on crosses, has a mistake in him, distribution not great. Not in the top 5 goalkeepers in the premiership.
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But DDG became the best in the world at one point.
Was a Top 3 keeper for the longest time.
What’s this revisionist history. Yes he’s got flaws, my biggest one on him, is his Penalty record.
Been player of the season for us, and most probably again this season with CR7.
When he’s gone, you’re gonna feel it, like when Big Peter left us.
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comment by United we win (U19958)
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The main issue is Maguire. He’s a horrid defender and some think he’d work in a high line. The guy is slow as a truck when turning. He’d be destroyed. He’s already being destroyed every single game. He’s not a 20m defender and I’d argue he’s not top 6 level, maybe top 10 if that.
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So then, what in the hell is Southgate on about.
Cos, the man’s going to the World Cup, regardless if he’s playing for Utd or Not. It’s a bloody disgrace.
Telling us lot to shh, cos he scores against Albania wasn’t it?…
Get out my club!!
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 10 minutes ago
The main issue is Maguire. He’s a horrid defender and some think he’d work in a high line. The guy is slow as a truck when turning. He’d be destroyed. He’s already being destroyed every single game. He’s not a 20m defender and I’d argue he’s not top 6 level, maybe top 10 if that.
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So then, what in the hell is Southgate on about.
Cos, the man’s going to the World Cup, regardless if he’s playing for Utd or Not. It’s a bloody disgrace.
Telling us lot to shh, cos he scores against Albania wasn’t it?…
Get out my club!!
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He's great for England. That's why he gets picked for England
I’m not saying he’s the worst ever. He’s just not UTD material. In every way. The habit he has calling for the Lino to call offside everytime.
His ponderous ways on the ball. Brain dead decision making. It’s simple, the weight of the badge is too much.
Respect to Ben Foster for admitting the pressure got to him, he couldn’t handle it. Maguire needs to move.
If you look at Maguire’s highlights (lowlights) for this season alone, they include more material errors than a “top” CB should fall foul of in their entire career. I cannot for the life of me understand how people continue to deny this.
He is without doubt our worst regularly-starting CB since the EPL began.
Admittedly, he’s looked good for England at times (the Euros being a great example) but it is an entirely different level with respect to 95% of their games, with an entirely different level of pressure, absent of biennial events. It’s apples and oranges.
“We need a sweeper keeper”; “we need better full backs”; “we need a more robust midfield”
Each of these comments might be perfectly warranted and should be argued and debated in their own right, but don’t let it cloud your vision from something that is right in front of you, in size 194 Times New Roman, emboldened, underlined, with 17 exclamation marks succeeding it, and ululating like your favourite church minister.
Maguire, alone, occupies the top five or ten spots for “worst performance from a United CB” in the last 30 years.
His confidence must be shot - that’s something we can all empathise with and must play a significant part in his mal-performance - but why can a 25 year old Scott McTominay, whose had a much better season* and is not seen as a leader of the dressing room come out and display humility, sagacity, and maturity leaps and bounds above that of our captain, who can only indulge in arrogant deflection?
*Scott hasn’t exactly been great, but still a damn sight better than Maguire.
Did you see his tone deaf interview.. ‘yeh I’ve had a few bad games..but there’s a reason why I’ve been getting picked by the last 2 managers..’
A few?!! No accountability at all.
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
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Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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Glad i could help you
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Shot stopping and being good one on one/sweeping due to a high line are very different things.
When someone talks about a keeper being a good shot stopper they mean good reflexes. To be a good keeper in a team that plays a high line you need to be quick off the line, comfortable with the ball at your feet and a good passer. None of which De Gea is.
We need a sweeper keeper”; “we need better full backs”; “we need a more robust midfield”
Each of these comments might be perfectly warranted and should be argued and debated in their own right,
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Personally I don't think they should each be argued in their own right... Nor should Maguire
They should be argued and addressed as a collective... Otherwise we're just prioritising which holes to plug rather than repairing the whole damage
Ralf is absolutely bang on with his 7 to 10 players quote
Weak full backs, de Gea's faults, lack of a midfield, cbs being shiiite
Unless we address them all to some extent, we're wasting our time
DDG could do all of those things though. He just hasn’t been asked too up to now.
His inability with the ball is also greatly exaggerated.
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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Glad i could help you
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Shot stopping and being good one on one/sweeping due to a high line are very different things.
When someone talks about a keeper being a good shot stopper they mean good reflexes. To be a good keeper in a team that plays a high line you need to be quick off the line, comfortable with the ball at your feet and a good passer. None of which De Gea is.
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Why are you even trying to explain this to him, Elvis?
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
DDG could do all of those things though. He just hasn’t been asked too up to now.
His inability with the ball is also greatly exaggerated.
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You must watch a different team to the rest of us. De Gea is often rooted to his line. Its one of the most common criticisms of him. He's not comfortable with the ball at his feet and often fluffs his kicks when under pressure.
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
DDG could do all of those things though. He just hasn’t been asked too up to now.
His inability with the ball is also greatly exaggerated.
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Shut up RDD ffs
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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Glad i could help you
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Shot stopping and being good one on one/sweeping due to a high line are very different things.
When someone talks about a keeper being a good shot stopper they mean good reflexes. To be a good keeper in a team that plays a high line you need to be quick off the line, comfortable with the ball at your feet and a good passer. None of which De Gea is.
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Why are you even trying to explain this to him, Elvis?
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Oh cook off you bore.
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comment by Don (U22703)
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DDG could do all of those things though. He just hasn’t been asked too up to now.
His inability with the ball is also greatly exaggerated.
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Shut up RDD ffs
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No idea who you are Champ, but you sound like you know jack 5h1t about footy and just regurgitate what you think the cool kids say.
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I'm not going to argue. If that's the way you see it so be it.
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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How often does DDG get caught one on one like that though?
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He'd get caught a lot more if we played a high line ffs... Especially when he's not keen on leaving his line
You know this though.... Even you aren't this stupid
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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posted on 2/5/22
comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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He is from long range
Close in these days not so much
Plenty of times when de gea should be making himself big, he turns away from the ball... He's almost scared
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 3 minutes ago
Shaw cover Maguire? Ain’t it usually Maguire getting pulled out wide, cos Shaw has gone up? Thus causing a reaction, where the entire back line come in, including AWB, who then is leaving space behind him.
And cos we have a lazy ass in Rashy who doesn’t track back, we are always punished.
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Its Maguire who is the issue. He steps up but cant recover, and constantly lets runners get across him, meaning Shaw has to try and cover.
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100. Totally agree Maguire is the main issue in defence.
Makes it worse, that he’s the Captain.
Everyone saying what does CR7 think about him, what does Varane think?!
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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How often does DDG get caught one on one like that though?
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He'd get caught a lot more if we played a high line ffs... Especially when he's not keen on leaving his line
You know this though.... Even you aren't this stupid
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I fail to see how he has been deemed unable to.do something he has never been asked to do.
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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Glad i could help you
posted on 2/5/22
DDG is one of the most overrated goalkeepers I have ever seen. Makes some good reflex saves which look great to the casuals. Doesn't dominate his box, mediocre on crosses, has a mistake in him, distribution not great. Not in the top 5 goalkeepers in the premiership.
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 17 minutes ago
DDG is one of the most overrated goalkeepers I have ever seen. Makes some good reflex saves which look great to the casuals. Doesn't dominate his box, mediocre on crosses, has a mistake in him, distribution not great. Not in the top 5 goalkeepers in the premiership.
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But DDG became the best in the world at one point.
Was a Top 3 keeper for the longest time.
What’s this revisionist history. Yes he’s got flaws, my biggest one on him, is his Penalty record.
Been player of the season for us, and most probably again this season with CR7.
When he’s gone, you’re gonna feel it, like when Big Peter left us.
posted on 2/5/22
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posted on 2/5/22
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 10 minutes ago
The main issue is Maguire. He’s a horrid defender and some think he’d work in a high line. The guy is slow as a truck when turning. He’d be destroyed. He’s already being destroyed every single game. He’s not a 20m defender and I’d argue he’s not top 6 level, maybe top 10 if that.
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So then, what in the hell is Southgate on about.
Cos, the man’s going to the World Cup, regardless if he’s playing for Utd or Not. It’s a bloody disgrace.
Telling us lot to shh, cos he scores against Albania wasn’t it?…
Get out my club!!
posted on 2/5/22
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 10 minutes ago
The main issue is Maguire. He’s a horrid defender and some think he’d work in a high line. The guy is slow as a truck when turning. He’d be destroyed. He’s already being destroyed every single game. He’s not a 20m defender and I’d argue he’s not top 6 level, maybe top 10 if that.
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So then, what in the hell is Southgate on about.
Cos, the man’s going to the World Cup, regardless if he’s playing for Utd or Not. It’s a bloody disgrace.
Telling us lot to shh, cos he scores against Albania wasn’t it?…
Get out my club!!
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He's great for England. That's why he gets picked for England
posted on 2/5/22
I’m not saying he’s the worst ever. He’s just not UTD material. In every way. The habit he has calling for the Lino to call offside everytime.
His ponderous ways on the ball. Brain dead decision making. It’s simple, the weight of the badge is too much.
Respect to Ben Foster for admitting the pressure got to him, he couldn’t handle it. Maguire needs to move.
posted on 2/5/22
If you look at Maguire’s highlights (lowlights) for this season alone, they include more material errors than a “top” CB should fall foul of in their entire career. I cannot for the life of me understand how people continue to deny this.
He is without doubt our worst regularly-starting CB since the EPL began.
Admittedly, he’s looked good for England at times (the Euros being a great example) but it is an entirely different level with respect to 95% of their games, with an entirely different level of pressure, absent of biennial events. It’s apples and oranges.
“We need a sweeper keeper”; “we need better full backs”; “we need a more robust midfield”
Each of these comments might be perfectly warranted and should be argued and debated in their own right, but don’t let it cloud your vision from something that is right in front of you, in size 194 Times New Roman, emboldened, underlined, with 17 exclamation marks succeeding it, and ululating like your favourite church minister.
posted on 2/5/22
Maguire, alone, occupies the top five or ten spots for “worst performance from a United CB” in the last 30 years.
His confidence must be shot - that’s something we can all empathise with and must play a significant part in his mal-performance - but why can a 25 year old Scott McTominay, whose had a much better season* and is not seen as a leader of the dressing room come out and display humility, sagacity, and maturity leaps and bounds above that of our captain, who can only indulge in arrogant deflection?
*Scott hasn’t exactly been great, but still a damn sight better than Maguire.
posted on 2/5/22
Did you see his tone deaf interview.. ‘yeh I’ve had a few bad games..but there’s a reason why I’ve been getting picked by the last 2 managers..’
A few?!! No accountability at all.
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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Glad i could help you
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Shot stopping and being good one on one/sweeping due to a high line are very different things.
When someone talks about a keeper being a good shot stopper they mean good reflexes. To be a good keeper in a team that plays a high line you need to be quick off the line, comfortable with the ball at your feet and a good passer. None of which De Gea is.
posted on 2/5/22
We need a sweeper keeper”; “we need better full backs”; “we need a more robust midfield”
Each of these comments might be perfectly warranted and should be argued and debated in their own right,
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Personally I don't think they should each be argued in their own right... Nor should Maguire
They should be argued and addressed as a collective... Otherwise we're just prioritising which holes to plug rather than repairing the whole damage
Ralf is absolutely bang on with his 7 to 10 players quote
Weak full backs, de Gea's faults, lack of a midfield, cbs being shiiite
Unless we address them all to some extent, we're wasting our time
posted on 2/5/22
DDG could do all of those things though. He just hasn’t been asked too up to now.
His inability with the ball is also greatly exaggerated.
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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Glad i could help you
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Shot stopping and being good one on one/sweeping due to a high line are very different things.
When someone talks about a keeper being a good shot stopper they mean good reflexes. To be a good keeper in a team that plays a high line you need to be quick off the line, comfortable with the ball at your feet and a good passer. None of which De Gea is.
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Why are you even trying to explain this to him, Elvis?
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
DDG could do all of those things though. He just hasn’t been asked too up to now.
His inability with the ball is also greatly exaggerated.
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You must watch a different team to the rest of us. De Gea is often rooted to his line. Its one of the most common criticisms of him. He's not comfortable with the ball at his feet and often fluffs his kicks when under pressure.
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
DDG could do all of those things though. He just hasn’t been asked too up to now.
His inability with the ball is also greatly exaggerated.
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Shut up RDD ffs
posted on 2/5/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB United (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
Coaching is definitely a huge issue. If you buy a player like Maguire you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it.
Last season we didn't play a high line and Maguire was nowhere near as bad.
Our issue is we bought players for one system and then decided to play a different way.....and it's had disastrous consequences.
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If you buy a keeper like de gea you can't expect to play a high line and get away with it either
Your last paragraph likely copies over for de gea in ten hags system too sadly
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How does a great shot stopper not work in a system where the high line gets caught out?
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Being a great shot stopper and good one on one is very different. Look at Allison for Liverpool. How often does he save them one v one. Much more often than De Gea I'd say.
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One on one results in a shot. DDG is a great shot stopper.
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I can't. I just can't argue with that really! So not going to waste my time trying!
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Glad i could help you
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Shot stopping and being good one on one/sweeping due to a high line are very different things.
When someone talks about a keeper being a good shot stopper they mean good reflexes. To be a good keeper in a team that plays a high line you need to be quick off the line, comfortable with the ball at your feet and a good passer. None of which De Gea is.
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Why are you even trying to explain this to him, Elvis?
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Oh cook off you bore.
posted on 2/5/22
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 minutes ago
DDG could do all of those things though. He just hasn’t been asked too up to now.
His inability with the ball is also greatly exaggerated.
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Shut up RDD ffs
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No idea who you are Champ, but you sound like you know jack 5h1t about footy and just regurgitate what you think the cool kids say.
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