comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals.
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If I were you, I'd definitely explore this a little further.
You might be on to a Nobel Prize here.
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Answer me this. Is 57% of people most people?
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals.
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If I were you, I'd definitely explore this a little further.
You might be on to a Nobel Prize here.
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Answer me this. Is 57% of people most people?
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Well yeah.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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Being surrounded by better quality makes it better not worse.
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It makes it look worse for Salah considering he's surrounded by better quality and still not turning up.
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Or maybe opponents concentrate on stopping the danger man in finals as a priority? Kane and Salah are both the best players in their teams so that'd make much more sense than the notion that Kane and Salah, who score goals and assist for fun, get stage fright in finals.
They both have way too much confidence to freeze on the biggest stages imo l. Teams just ain't dumb. They know let them two free and ur prob lose.
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Salah simply hasn't been that great for the whole of 2022 though. He's taken that form into those 3 finals for Liverpool. He should have had a better season than he did on an individual level.
Kane could have done more in some of the finals, but has only been in 4 and probably shouldn't have even been in one after being rushed back from injury.
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals.
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If I were you, I'd definitely explore this a little further.
You might be on to a Nobel Prize here.
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Answer me this. Is 57% of people most people?
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Well yeah.
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Fair enough so
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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Yet we both know the idea of saying Salah and Kane are rubbish cos they don't score in finals is silly.
Ibra had a stigma he never scored against English teams....until he destroyed England 😂
If they are both the first names on the coaches teqmsheet after getting to the final, it speaks volumes.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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Yet we both know the idea of saying Salah and Kane are rubbish cos they don't score in finals is silly.
Ibra had a stigma he never scored against English teams....until he destroyed England 😂
If they are both the first names on the coaches teqmsheet after getting to the final, it speaks volumes.
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My point isn't even that they're rubbish, it's that one is unfairly pointed at for not doing enough in finals, whereas the other goes relatively scot-free.
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals.
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If I were you, I'd definitely explore this a little further.
You might be on to a Nobel Prize here.
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Answer me this. Is 57% of people most people?
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Well yeah.
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comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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Yet we both know the idea of saying Salah and Kane are rubbish cos they don't score in finals is silly.
Ibra had a stigma he never scored against English teams....until he destroyed England 😂
If they are both the first names on the coaches teqmsheet after getting to the final, it speaks volumes.
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My point isn't even that they're rubbish, it's that one is unfairly pointed at for not doing enough in finals, whereas the other goes relatively scot-free.
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Why do you care?
Courtois certainly turned up for the final. He's the main reason Real won.
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet we both know the idea of saying Salah and Kane are rubbish cos they don't score in finals is silly.
Ibra had a stigma he never scored against English teams....until he destroyed England 😂
If they are both the first names on the coaches teqmsheet after getting to the final, it speaks volumes.
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My point isn't even that they're rubbish, it's that one is unfairly pointed at for not doing enough in finals, whereas the other goes relatively scot-free.
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Why do you care?
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You could ask this of any top ever created on JA.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals. It’s actually 4 out of 8 anyway. Definitely not most.
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4 of 7 is 'most' by definition, you're just a moron.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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Being surrounded by better quality makes it better not worse.
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It makes it look worse for Salah considering he's surrounded by better quality and still not turning up.
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No. It makes it better in that he doesn't have to play well for Liverpool to win a final so Salah can afford to not turn up and say "right, I got you this far now you finish the job."
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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Classic sandy.
You could say the same thing for Henry.
Not many players are beasts in finals like Drogba
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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My point being that obviously Kane does turn up in big games if he has scored 35 goals.
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 12 hours, 4 minutes ago
Courtois certainly turned up for the final. He's the main reason Real won.
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And didn't he go out of his way to tell us all. Never seen a player pat himself on the back so much.
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 11 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals. It’s actually 4 out of 8 anyway. Definitely not most.
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4 of 7 is 'most' by definition, you're just a moron.
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When you consider Spurs have won 8 out of 9 finals, this is all spinning the narrative.
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 11 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals. It’s actually 4 out of 8 anyway. Definitely not most.
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4 of 7 is 'most' by definition, you're just a moron.
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When you consider Spurs have won 8 out of 9 finals, this is all spinning the narrative.
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What?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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For Liverpool it's only 5 finals to be fair and 1 of those he was injured after 20 minutes.
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 11 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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For Liverpool it's only 5 finals to be fair and 1 of those he was injured after 20 minutes.
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And another after 33 minutes.
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posted on 30/5/22
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
posted on 30/5/22
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals.
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If I were you, I'd definitely explore this a little further.
You might be on to a Nobel Prize here.
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Answer me this. Is 57% of people most people?
posted on 30/5/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals.
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If I were you, I'd definitely explore this a little further.
You might be on to a Nobel Prize here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Answer me this. Is 57% of people most people?
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Well yeah.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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Being surrounded by better quality makes it better not worse.
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It makes it look worse for Salah considering he's surrounded by better quality and still not turning up.
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Or maybe opponents concentrate on stopping the danger man in finals as a priority? Kane and Salah are both the best players in their teams so that'd make much more sense than the notion that Kane and Salah, who score goals and assist for fun, get stage fright in finals.
They both have way too much confidence to freeze on the biggest stages imo l. Teams just ain't dumb. They know let them two free and ur prob lose.
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Salah simply hasn't been that great for the whole of 2022 though. He's taken that form into those 3 finals for Liverpool. He should have had a better season than he did on an individual level.
Kane could have done more in some of the finals, but has only been in 4 and probably shouldn't have even been in one after being rushed back from injury.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals.
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If I were you, I'd definitely explore this a little further.
You might be on to a Nobel Prize here.
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Answer me this. Is 57% of people most people?
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Well yeah.
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Fair enough so
posted on 30/5/22
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet we both know the idea of saying Salah and Kane are rubbish cos they don't score in finals is silly.
Ibra had a stigma he never scored against English teams....until he destroyed England 😂
If they are both the first names on the coaches teqmsheet after getting to the final, it speaks volumes.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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Yet we both know the idea of saying Salah and Kane are rubbish cos they don't score in finals is silly.
Ibra had a stigma he never scored against English teams....until he destroyed England 😂
If they are both the first names on the coaches teqmsheet after getting to the final, it speaks volumes.
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My point isn't even that they're rubbish, it's that one is unfairly pointed at for not doing enough in finals, whereas the other goes relatively scot-free.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals.
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If I were you, I'd definitely explore this a little further.
You might be on to a Nobel Prize here.
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Answer me this. Is 57% of people most people?
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Well yeah.
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posted on 30/5/22
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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Yet we both know the idea of saying Salah and Kane are rubbish cos they don't score in finals is silly.
Ibra had a stigma he never scored against English teams....until he destroyed England 😂
If they are both the first names on the coaches teqmsheet after getting to the final, it speaks volumes.
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My point isn't even that they're rubbish, it's that one is unfairly pointed at for not doing enough in finals, whereas the other goes relatively scot-free.
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Why do you care?
posted on 30/5/22
Courtois certainly turned up for the final. He's the main reason Real won.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet we both know the idea of saying Salah and Kane are rubbish cos they don't score in finals is silly.
Ibra had a stigma he never scored against English teams....until he destroyed England 😂
If they are both the first names on the coaches teqmsheet after getting to the final, it speaks volumes.
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My point isn't even that they're rubbish, it's that one is unfairly pointed at for not doing enough in finals, whereas the other goes relatively scot-free.
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Why do you care?
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You could ask this of any top ever created on JA.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals. It’s actually 4 out of 8 anyway. Definitely not most.
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4 of 7 is 'most' by definition, you're just a moron.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Assassin Baby - (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
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Being surrounded by better quality makes it better not worse.
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It makes it look worse for Salah considering he's surrounded by better quality and still not turning up.
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No. It makes it better in that he doesn't have to play well for Liverpool to win a final so Salah can afford to not turn up and say "right, I got you this far now you finish the job."
posted on 30/5/22
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
posted on 30/5/22
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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Classic sandy.
posted on 31/5/22
You could say the same thing for Henry.
Not many players are beasts in finals like Drogba
posted on 31/5/22
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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My point being that obviously Kane does turn up in big games if he has scored 35 goals.
posted on 31/5/22
comment by Brother (U20548)
posted 12 hours, 4 minutes ago
Courtois certainly turned up for the final. He's the main reason Real won.
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And didn't he go out of his way to tell us all. Never seen a player pat himself on the back so much.
posted on 31/5/22
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 11 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals. It’s actually 4 out of 8 anyway. Definitely not most.
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4 of 7 is 'most' by definition, you're just a moron.
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When you consider Spurs have won 8 out of 9 finals, this is all spinning the narrative.
posted on 31/5/22
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 11 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 seconds ago
We win most finals we play in, simple as that really.
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Under Klopp you’ve won 4 finals (2 on pens) and lost 3 (1 on pens) so that’s not true is it?
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So we've won most of our finals?
Are you thick?
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I wouldn’t consider 4 out of 7 most finals. It’s actually 4 out of 8 anyway. Definitely not most.
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4 of 7 is 'most' by definition, you're just a moron.
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When you consider Spurs have won 8 out of 9 finals, this is all spinning the narrative.
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What?
posted on 31/5/22
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
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I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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For Liverpool it's only 5 finals to be fair and 1 of those he was injured after 20 minutes.
posted on 31/5/22
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 11 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Alejandro The King Garnacho (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
The criticism of Kane is big games in general, not just finals.
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I would wager Kane has scored more goals against Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal than Salah has (substitute Spurs for Liverpool in his case). All of those matches involving those clubs are considered the biggest in the Prem.
So completely untrue to say Kane does not turn up in big games in general.
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Then you’d lose money. Salah has scored 39 and Kane 35. Kane has played loads more game against them as well.
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posted on 31/5/22
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 7 minutes ago
You hear a lot, even from Spurs fans, how Kane is part of why Spurs don't win trophies, because he doesn't turn up in these games, yet Salah is just as bad for it, but because Liverpool still win stuff this criticism is not put to him as much.
It really shows you the difference being in a good team and being around better players makes, which in a way makes it look worse for Salah because he is surrounded by better quality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's because in finals the opponent wants to win a trophy too! Although most top teams don't change to account for opponents, Salah and Kane are definitely two players a team will make an effort to neutralise, as they are both so prolific and key to their teams performances.
I'm not even surprised they don't score much in finals as giving them time and space on the ball is a sure way to lose a final.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get that many players struggle in finals but when you've had 8 big ones and not even scored a goal from open play in any, and you're supposed to be one of the best players/goal scorers around then it's not great is it?
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For Liverpool it's only 5 finals to be fair and 1 of those he was injured after 20 minutes.
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And another after 33 minutes.
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