I think Liverpool fans are rightly ashamed of that night. I’m sure most clubs had idiot fans around that era and it could have been any of our ones who committed such an atrocity but unfortunately for the victims that night it was the Liverpool fans who went too far. It’s indefensible so I’m sure the vast majority of Liverpool fans who are good people just prefer never to talk about it. I wouldn’t. Just acknowledge it was a shocker and move on and do better
comment by Robert Paulson (U22716)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think Liverpool fans are rightly ashamed of that night. I’m sure most clubs had idiot fans around that era and it could have been any of our ones who committed such an atrocity but unfortunately for the victims that night it was the Liverpool fans who went too far. It’s indefensible so I’m sure the vast majority of Liverpool fans who are good people just prefer never to talk about it. I wouldn’t. Just acknowledge it was a shocker and move on and do better
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A good comment.
Because it paints Liverpool in a bad light, so everyone must be silenced.
Very insensitive having a trophy parade on the Heysel anniversary, major feck up by the club.
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Liverpool fans done absolutely nothing wrong that night so it was wrong for English clubs to be banned from Europe.
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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Yeah but the officials said the falling down stadium was safe....
Gerry Clarkson, Deputy Chief of the London Fire Brigade, was sent by the British Government to report on the condition of the stadium. He concluded that the deaths were "Attributable very, very largely to the appalling state of the stadium."
Clarkson discovered that the crush barriers were unable to contain the weight of the crowd and had the reinforcement in the concrete exposed; the wall's piers had been built the wrong way around and that there was a small building at the top of the terrace that contained long plastic tubing underneath.
It could probably have been avoided if the police had dogs and just set them on any troublemakers
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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True, but it happened and people died so better not just to forget the event.
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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True, but it happened and people died so better not just to forget the event.
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Well I won't will. What a silly thing to write,
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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True, but it happened and people died so better not just to forget the event.
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Well I won't will. What a silly thing to write,
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Why is it a silly thing to write?
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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True, but it happened and people died so better not just to forget the event.
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Well I won't will. What a silly thing to write,
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Why is it a silly thing to write?
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Aside of being pointless and obvious you mean?
This is what I want. There was no ja606 then, so apart from the odd letter in the paper it was reporters views.
Another question, fourteen Liverpool supporters where convicted, fairly or not.
Somewhere on YouTube Lawro is asking why, or rarely, it's not talked about. But 39 people died so it's a big deal.
But there doesn't seem to be any kind of memorial.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 32 seconds ago
This is what I want. There was no ja606 then, so apart from the odd letter in the paper it was reporters views.
Another question, fourteen Liverpool supporters where convicted, fairly or not.
Somewhere on YouTube Lawro is asking why, or rarely, it's not talked about. But 39 people died so it's a big deal.
But there doesn't seem to be any kind of memorial.
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I'm unsure whether there is and you can't argue crowd violence didn't play a part. I'm not sure that's the kind of thing you have a memorial for, certainly on foreign soil. The Italians likely have something.
It’s PR. Liverpool does a good job of portraying itself as the victim or the underdog. To highlight Heysel, especially in light of Hilsborough, isn’t a good look for them. So it’s better to sweep it under the carpet.
A number of morons on here already sadly but i'll go ahead anyway.
"Why is it rarely mentioned" you ask. Well, for starters, that links into the considerable length of time that has passed since it happened. I reply to your question, is it mentioned any less often than other stadium disasters such as Bradford or Ibrox disasters that happened around the same time?
I'm guessing the real question your asking is why is mentioned less than Hillsborough. From a Liverpool perspective that answer is obvious, you'll always be more affected by tragedy that affects you or your families directly, which it did with Liverpool supporters. at the time.
Obviously those that sadly died at both Heysel and Hillsborough will always be remembered and never forgotten, but there has to be a time when you move on. Hence why the families of the Hillsborough victims requested for the annual remembrance services at Anfield to be stopped.
The truth is I wasn't even alive when Heysel happened, nor were any of my matchgoing pals, I'm now into my 30's which just goes to back up my opinion above.
So i guess the question I toss back to you OP is, should I be talking about it, and if so, what exactly?
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 3 seconds ago
A number of morons on here already sadly but i'll go ahead anyway.
"Why is it rarely mentioned" you ask. Well, for starters, that links into the considerable length of time that has passed since it happened. I reply to your question, is it mentioned any less often than other stadium disasters such as Bradford or Ibrox disasters that happened around the same time?
I'm guessing the real question your asking is why is mentioned less than Hillsborough. From a Liverpool perspective that answer is obvious, you'll always be more affected by tragedy that affects you or your families directly, which it did with Liverpool supporters. at the time.
Obviously those that sadly died at both Heysel and Hillsborough will always be remembered and never forgotten, but there has to be a time when you move on. Hence why the families of the Hillsborough victims requested for the annual remembrance services at Anfield to be stopped.
The truth is I wasn't even alive when Heysel happened, nor were any of my matchgoing pals, I'm now into my 30's which just goes to back up my opinion above.
So i guess the question I toss back to you OP is, should I be talking about it, and if so, what exactly?
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That's an excellent post if we're honest.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 32 seconds ago
This is what I want. There was no ja606 then, so apart from the odd letter in the paper it was reporters views.
Another question, fourteen Liverpool supporters where convicted, fairly or not.
Somewhere on YouTube Lawro is asking why, or rarely, it's not talked about. But 39 people died so it's a big deal.
But there doesn't seem to be any kind of memorial.
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I'm unsure whether there is and you can't argue crowd violence didn't play a part. I'm not sure that's the kind of thing you have a memorial for, certainly on foreign soil. The Italians likely have something.
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Just a simple one remembering the dead. No blame
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 3 seconds ago
A number of morons on here already sadly but i'll go ahead anyway.
"Why is it rarely mentioned" you ask. Well, for starters, that links into the considerable length of time that has passed since it happened. I reply to your question, is it mentioned any less often than other stadium disasters such as Bradford or Ibrox disasters that happened around the same time?
I'm guessing the real question your asking is why is mentioned less than Hillsborough. From a Liverpool perspective that answer is obvious, you'll always be more affected by tragedy that affects you or your families directly, which it did with Liverpool supporters. at the time.
Obviously those that sadly died at both Heysel and Hillsborough will always be remembered and never forgotten, but there has to be a time when you move on. Hence why the families of the Hillsborough victims requested for the annual remembrance services at Anfield to be stopped.
The truth is I wasn't even alive when Heysel happened, nor were any of my matchgoing pals, I'm now into my 30's which just goes to back up my opinion above.
So i guess the question I toss back to you OP is, should I be talking about it, and if so, what exactly?
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That's an excellent post if we're honest.
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Yes, I agree. It wasn't Hillsborough, it was I saw a line about it being the anniversary, and it made me think about it. And of course being much older I watched it.
I'm going to to try and keep anything slanderous off.
I've never really heard fans views, and wanted to.
Personally, I think it should be as significant an anniversary for the club as the Hillsborough disaster.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 3 seconds ago
A number of morons on here already sadly but i'll go ahead anyway.
"Why is it rarely mentioned" you ask. Well, for starters, that links into the considerable length of time that has passed since it happened. I reply to your question, is it mentioned any less often than other stadium disasters such as Bradford or Ibrox disasters that happened around the same time?
I'm guessing the real question your asking is why is mentioned less than Hillsborough. From a Liverpool perspective that answer is obvious, you'll always be more affected by tragedy that affects you or your families directly, which it did with Liverpool supporters. at the time.
Obviously those that sadly died at both Heysel and Hillsborough will always be remembered and never forgotten, but there has to be a time when you move on. Hence why the families of the Hillsborough victims requested for the annual remembrance services at Anfield to be stopped.
The truth is I wasn't even alive when Heysel happened, nor were any of my matchgoing pals, I'm now into my 30's which just goes to back up my opinion above.
So i guess the question I toss back to you OP is, should I be talking about it, and if so, what exactly?
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That's an excellent post if we're honest.
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It really is a good post. Ibrox maybe in Scotland but not here. Bradford, not enough.
The stadium was an absolute shambles and not close to being fit for purpose with a such a high profile game.
But something I’ve always had a head scratch about was why was the game played after that.
Where would your head be at.
And the Rangers and Frankfurt fans were furious about the state of the Ropey cup final stadium in Seville - another accident waiting to happen in an unsafe stadium.
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posted on 9/6/22
I think Liverpool fans are rightly ashamed of that night. I’m sure most clubs had idiot fans around that era and it could have been any of our ones who committed such an atrocity but unfortunately for the victims that night it was the Liverpool fans who went too far. It’s indefensible so I’m sure the vast majority of Liverpool fans who are good people just prefer never to talk about it. I wouldn’t. Just acknowledge it was a shocker and move on and do better
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Robert Paulson (U22716)
posted 7 minutes ago
I think Liverpool fans are rightly ashamed of that night. I’m sure most clubs had idiot fans around that era and it could have been any of our ones who committed such an atrocity but unfortunately for the victims that night it was the Liverpool fans who went too far. It’s indefensible so I’m sure the vast majority of Liverpool fans who are good people just prefer never to talk about it. I wouldn’t. Just acknowledge it was a shocker and move on and do better
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A good comment.
posted on 9/6/22
Because it paints Liverpool in a bad light, so everyone must be silenced.
posted on 9/6/22
Very insensitive having a trophy parade on the Heysel anniversary, major feck up by the club.
posted on 9/6/22
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posted on 9/6/22
Liverpool fans done absolutely nothing wrong that night so it was wrong for English clubs to be banned from Europe.
posted on 9/6/22
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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Yeah but the officials said the falling down stadium was safe....
posted on 9/6/22
Gerry Clarkson, Deputy Chief of the London Fire Brigade, was sent by the British Government to report on the condition of the stadium. He concluded that the deaths were "Attributable very, very largely to the appalling state of the stadium."
Clarkson discovered that the crush barriers were unable to contain the weight of the crowd and had the reinforcement in the concrete exposed; the wall's piers had been built the wrong way around and that there was a small building at the top of the terrace that contained long plastic tubing underneath.
posted on 9/6/22
It could probably have been avoided if the police had dogs and just set them on any troublemakers
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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True, but it happened and people died so better not just to forget the event.
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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True, but it happened and people died so better not just to forget the event.
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Well I won't will. What a silly thing to write,
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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True, but it happened and people died so better not just to forget the event.
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Well I won't will. What a silly thing to write,
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Why is it a silly thing to write?
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Carter (U18826)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Just my opinion but if you push hard on a stadium wall I don't think it should collapse.
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True, but it happened and people died so better not just to forget the event.
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Well I won't will. What a silly thing to write,
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Why is it a silly thing to write?
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Aside of being pointless and obvious you mean?
posted on 9/6/22
This is what I want. There was no ja606 then, so apart from the odd letter in the paper it was reporters views.
Another question, fourteen Liverpool supporters where convicted, fairly or not.
Somewhere on YouTube Lawro is asking why, or rarely, it's not talked about. But 39 people died so it's a big deal.
But there doesn't seem to be any kind of memorial.
posted on 9/6/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 32 seconds ago
This is what I want. There was no ja606 then, so apart from the odd letter in the paper it was reporters views.
Another question, fourteen Liverpool supporters where convicted, fairly or not.
Somewhere on YouTube Lawro is asking why, or rarely, it's not talked about. But 39 people died so it's a big deal.
But there doesn't seem to be any kind of memorial.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm unsure whether there is and you can't argue crowd violence didn't play a part. I'm not sure that's the kind of thing you have a memorial for, certainly on foreign soil. The Italians likely have something.
posted on 9/6/22
It’s PR. Liverpool does a good job of portraying itself as the victim or the underdog. To highlight Heysel, especially in light of Hilsborough, isn’t a good look for them. So it’s better to sweep it under the carpet.
posted on 9/6/22
A number of morons on here already sadly but i'll go ahead anyway.
"Why is it rarely mentioned" you ask. Well, for starters, that links into the considerable length of time that has passed since it happened. I reply to your question, is it mentioned any less often than other stadium disasters such as Bradford or Ibrox disasters that happened around the same time?
I'm guessing the real question your asking is why is mentioned less than Hillsborough. From a Liverpool perspective that answer is obvious, you'll always be more affected by tragedy that affects you or your families directly, which it did with Liverpool supporters. at the time.
Obviously those that sadly died at both Heysel and Hillsborough will always be remembered and never forgotten, but there has to be a time when you move on. Hence why the families of the Hillsborough victims requested for the annual remembrance services at Anfield to be stopped.
The truth is I wasn't even alive when Heysel happened, nor were any of my matchgoing pals, I'm now into my 30's which just goes to back up my opinion above.
So i guess the question I toss back to you OP is, should I be talking about it, and if so, what exactly?
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 3 seconds ago
A number of morons on here already sadly but i'll go ahead anyway.
"Why is it rarely mentioned" you ask. Well, for starters, that links into the considerable length of time that has passed since it happened. I reply to your question, is it mentioned any less often than other stadium disasters such as Bradford or Ibrox disasters that happened around the same time?
I'm guessing the real question your asking is why is mentioned less than Hillsborough. From a Liverpool perspective that answer is obvious, you'll always be more affected by tragedy that affects you or your families directly, which it did with Liverpool supporters. at the time.
Obviously those that sadly died at both Heysel and Hillsborough will always be remembered and never forgotten, but there has to be a time when you move on. Hence why the families of the Hillsborough victims requested for the annual remembrance services at Anfield to be stopped.
The truth is I wasn't even alive when Heysel happened, nor were any of my matchgoing pals, I'm now into my 30's which just goes to back up my opinion above.
So i guess the question I toss back to you OP is, should I be talking about it, and if so, what exactly?
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That's an excellent post if we're honest.
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 32 seconds ago
This is what I want. There was no ja606 then, so apart from the odd letter in the paper it was reporters views.
Another question, fourteen Liverpool supporters where convicted, fairly or not.
Somewhere on YouTube Lawro is asking why, or rarely, it's not talked about. But 39 people died so it's a big deal.
But there doesn't seem to be any kind of memorial.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm unsure whether there is and you can't argue crowd violence didn't play a part. I'm not sure that's the kind of thing you have a memorial for, certainly on foreign soil. The Italians likely have something.
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Just a simple one remembering the dead. No blame
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 3 seconds ago
A number of morons on here already sadly but i'll go ahead anyway.
"Why is it rarely mentioned" you ask. Well, for starters, that links into the considerable length of time that has passed since it happened. I reply to your question, is it mentioned any less often than other stadium disasters such as Bradford or Ibrox disasters that happened around the same time?
I'm guessing the real question your asking is why is mentioned less than Hillsborough. From a Liverpool perspective that answer is obvious, you'll always be more affected by tragedy that affects you or your families directly, which it did with Liverpool supporters. at the time.
Obviously those that sadly died at both Heysel and Hillsborough will always be remembered and never forgotten, but there has to be a time when you move on. Hence why the families of the Hillsborough victims requested for the annual remembrance services at Anfield to be stopped.
The truth is I wasn't even alive when Heysel happened, nor were any of my matchgoing pals, I'm now into my 30's which just goes to back up my opinion above.
So i guess the question I toss back to you OP is, should I be talking about it, and if so, what exactly?
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That's an excellent post if we're honest.
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Yes, I agree. It wasn't Hillsborough, it was I saw a line about it being the anniversary, and it made me think about it. And of course being much older I watched it.
I'm going to to try and keep anything slanderous off.
I've never really heard fans views, and wanted to.
posted on 9/6/22
Personally, I think it should be as significant an anniversary for the club as the Hillsborough disaster.
posted on 9/6/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 3 seconds ago
A number of morons on here already sadly but i'll go ahead anyway.
"Why is it rarely mentioned" you ask. Well, for starters, that links into the considerable length of time that has passed since it happened. I reply to your question, is it mentioned any less often than other stadium disasters such as Bradford or Ibrox disasters that happened around the same time?
I'm guessing the real question your asking is why is mentioned less than Hillsborough. From a Liverpool perspective that answer is obvious, you'll always be more affected by tragedy that affects you or your families directly, which it did with Liverpool supporters. at the time.
Obviously those that sadly died at both Heysel and Hillsborough will always be remembered and never forgotten, but there has to be a time when you move on. Hence why the families of the Hillsborough victims requested for the annual remembrance services at Anfield to be stopped.
The truth is I wasn't even alive when Heysel happened, nor were any of my matchgoing pals, I'm now into my 30's which just goes to back up my opinion above.
So i guess the question I toss back to you OP is, should I be talking about it, and if so, what exactly?
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That's an excellent post if we're honest.
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It really is a good post. Ibrox maybe in Scotland but not here. Bradford, not enough.
posted on 9/6/22
The stadium was an absolute shambles and not close to being fit for purpose with a such a high profile game.
But something I’ve always had a head scratch about was why was the game played after that.
Where would your head be at.
posted on 9/6/22
And the Rangers and Frankfurt fans were furious about the state of the Ropey cup final stadium in Seville - another accident waiting to happen in an unsafe stadium.
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