Personally I think McInnes would be a great shout. We need a fresh approach, someone to come in and have a good clear out.
There is a clamour for Dave Jones but for me the fact that he presided over a 'drinking culture' at Cardiff as became apparent after the play-offs, is a no-no.
The Scots may not be setting the football world alight on the field, but one look at the Premier league suggests that for football managers there is nowhere better to look.
On the other hand, what about Martin O'Neil ?
He has made it known he wants back in, but Forest's board like to make the staffing decisions which is why their last two managers have failed. This would not see O'Neil returning to the City Ground. So why not try to get him here ?
The man is a legend. Okay, so was Coppel before he came here, but O'Neil is made of sterner stuff.
He probably wouldnt want to, but no harm in trying. On the other hand, if he did perform miracles in Bristol, the timing might be perfect for him to inherit the crown at Old Trafford. Cant see SAF retiring for at least another 2 years anyway.
Or am I just getting carried away ?
I think McInnes would be a massive gamble in our current position. No English managerial expeience. We have no idea what he would bring to the club..
He could be the best thing since sliced bread and one bound for the premiership, but it would be a gamble..
I have mixed feelings and think maybe someone established to the English game may be better.
Or am I just getting carried away ?
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Yes, very!
McInnes seems a decent shout. Worries me though his chairman is not fighting to keep him. Thought if he was any use the chairman might be 'active' in putting City off rather than 'as long as we get compensation we're happy'. Still, time will tell.
Billy Davies has managed 2 or 3 different clubs to the P/Os. I think successful Championship experience is vital so he would be my choice and essential he brings his 'own' backroom staff with him.
We need a complete clear out.
Dave Jones is another I'd be more than happy with.
Please God not Stuart Pearce.
I didn't know about any 'drinking culture' at Cardiff. If this is true then it would put me off Jones a bit - although his CC record is good and he is well known and attracted names like Bellamy and Chopra and Whittingham played for him too.
Uneasy about this Derek Innes bloke - he could struggle to attract signings like Milly did(?)
Of course we could also make a cheeky approach to Neil Warnock after QPR suffered an even bigger hammering than us last weekend
I'd be happy with Davies, although he does seem to bleat alot of money! Im not sure on Jones, he obviously knows his stuff but something makes me think he wouldnt be right for us. Im not sure why!
Not Pearce, Reid, Burley or anyone like that!
Bringing in a new man is always a gamble.
I wouldn't be sorry to see McInnes or Jones here, and whilst there are a few names floating around that I wouldn't be so keen on, it's my hope that the new man is able to energise the place. Not difficult at the moment, I know.
For now I'm enjoying the speculation, it's exciting times for the club and fans, in spite of being bottom.
I could be wrong obviously, but Mcinnes from a small club in the Scottish league! doesnt feel me with any hope or excitement about his being employed by us.
Not really sure getting teams promoted from the lower leagues in scotland really says much! sorry Scots.
I think the english lower leagues let a lone the Championship would offer a sterner job than up there.
Would prefer Davies or Jones myself, not saying they would neccessary have the midas touch, but they have been there, worn the t-shirt etc.
Why do you like McInnes Redside? I tend to agree with RedAndy.
Redprint, you like him too - why?
Convince me!
I'm not 100% sure R&W, he just seems to have that Scottish knack of getting the best from a side in that typical Scottish fashion. He seems like the kind of hungry hard nosed leader that the club would need at this time. The one thing I think we do not need is one of these managers who no longer have that burning passion like Reid, Burley etc they would just walk away, like Coppell because they dont have anything to prove whereas McInnes does, he wants to make a name for himself and we need someone with drive. This is of course my opinion. You can say what you want about Scottish football or Scottish players, but look at the Premier League, 7 out 20 managers are from Scotland, that's no coincidence!
The fact he has turned a small club like St Johnstone into a club now in the top half of their best league is also a booster for me, because that's exactly the job that faces any manager of this club. St Johnstone are a small Scottish club, we are a small English one! They are now competing for European places, beating the top sides and getting to cup semi finals, that's pretty good work in my book! Plus, he could be the next solid Scottish manager, its a gamble in know, but it maybe worth the risk.
Plus, a Scots friend of mines informs me that McInnes was a tough tackling midfielder who also had a great distribution which is an area that needs improvement, so forget managing us, we should sign him as a player!
You have good reasons Redside, but I'm not 100% convinced.
Yes, Scotish managers are doing well at the moment and I have no idea why.
But I worry that he has less experience than Keef at this level and you know my thoughts on him.
My thoughts are that if we were half way ou the league doing ok and Millen had walked out.....then someone like McInnes may just work.
But the manager that comes in has a lot of work to do, let alone getting his head around Championship football etc.
Having said that, if he was appointed, I would of course back him all the way.......but he would need to get results quick, otherwise the fans will say the board has gone for another cheap option and be down on him like a rat up a drain pipe!!
'Redprint, you like him too - why?'
For the same reasons as R/S. But I did add that I had a concern of the St Johnstone chairman being quite keen to talk 'compensation' rather than fighting to keep McInnes.
Can't help feeling Billy Davies has the right experience to save and then push City towards the P/Os, especially if he is allowed to bring in his own backroom staff.
Probably just as well you guys aren't choosing the manager
But I did add that I had a concern of the St Johnstone chairman being quite keen to talk 'compensation' rather than fighting to keep McInnes.
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I can only imagine he is being realistic in respect of that point! In any event, i believe its for that reason that we may not appoint him. There are other good candidates, such as Davies who are unattached and given our financial state, that must be on tghe minds of the board.
Rickster
Surely by now you have realised that my knowledge on all things Bristol City is supreme, so I fail to comprehend your cruel comment - 'Probably just as well you guys aren't choosing the manager'
Although you've cut me to the quick I refuse to respond by 'cutting and pasting' your comments since last June about the sadly departed Millen.
However please allow me just 1 of your barbed comments -
posted on 29/6/11
''Blimey RP
We haven't even kicked a ball pre season yet and you are already writing us off''.
BRR - Some of us are truly gifted.
In fact, if I chose to take a salary reduction I would take the manager's position with 1For as No2, R&W instead of Sextone and R/S my first £1million signing (we'll sort his knee out).
ps - OK 1For, don't get funny - we'll do it jointly.
I'm with you akll the way Redprint....
Rickster must hate me then, I wanted Millen gone half way through LAST season!!!
Some of us can see things that others can't!!
Redprint, with that mix of different opinions we would either find the perfect winning formula, or never actually manage to make a single decision during our tenure
I'm glad Millens gone,I'm another one of the so called Millen haters,but as I've always said," I'm a BCFC fan and supporter and not a Millen fan".
For BCFC the future is good and every fans opinion is valid,we are all REDS, together...
Being a fan is a bit like being a politician sometimes: everyone has the same or similar aspirations of success for our club, but fight furiously over how to achieve it!
I think i'd like to be Director of Football, im not exactly what that is but if Barry Fry can do it im sure i can!
Well according to various pundits Zola is also in the frame but It seems that they are looking more at people who have applied for the job rather than going head hunting which might well be the best option.
I'm sorry Millie failed I thought when he was appointed it was the wrong time but for a while last season he seemed to be able to pull the team together, however what proved to work last season for some reason he dumped this season and his apparent belief that Skuse and Fontaine were the answer to all of our problems left me very confused.
Well a week to go before our next match I wonder if we will have a new manager in place by that time? and I suppose more to the point who will it be?.
I wonder if we will find out who is on the short list that is apparently being made up at the moment It would be really interesting to find out who the 50 or so applications are from.
Redprint
This I posted a few weeks ago if you recall.
I stamped and shouted, and threw toys from pram in support of Millen, because I WANTED to believe, and because I watched a few idiots bring down our best chance in 30 years (GJ).
But the fact is that the longer into this season we went, the more it became obvious that Millen couldnt inspire the troops and his demeanour became increasingly hopeless and clueless. There were shafts of sunlight (last season) and they kept it going, but now the wheels have fallen off.
Onefor
Hates a strong word
Lets just say that, as Wizered has always said, I am Bristol City, whoever calls the tune.
We just have different ways of going about it
RP
"BRR - Some of us are truly gifted."
And some of us are full of it RP
Worth remembering we ARE still on the same side, even if we do see it from a different angle
BRR
You didn't need to post the above. On numerous occasions I've read on here how you regretted backing Millen.
'And some of us are full of it RP' -
I have to admit, I wasn't at the back of the queue when loud mouths were handed out.
I also know I go to far sometimes.
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posted on 4/10/11
Personally I think McInnes would be a great shout. We need a fresh approach, someone to come in and have a good clear out.
There is a clamour for Dave Jones but for me the fact that he presided over a 'drinking culture' at Cardiff as became apparent after the play-offs, is a no-no.
The Scots may not be setting the football world alight on the field, but one look at the Premier league suggests that for football managers there is nowhere better to look.
posted on 4/10/11
On the other hand, what about Martin O'Neil ?
He has made it known he wants back in, but Forest's board like to make the staffing decisions which is why their last two managers have failed. This would not see O'Neil returning to the City Ground. So why not try to get him here ?
The man is a legend. Okay, so was Coppel before he came here, but O'Neil is made of sterner stuff.
He probably wouldnt want to, but no harm in trying. On the other hand, if he did perform miracles in Bristol, the timing might be perfect for him to inherit the crown at Old Trafford. Cant see SAF retiring for at least another 2 years anyway.
Or am I just getting carried away ?
posted on 4/10/11
I think McInnes would be a massive gamble in our current position. No English managerial expeience. We have no idea what he would bring to the club..
He could be the best thing since sliced bread and one bound for the premiership, but it would be a gamble..
I have mixed feelings and think maybe someone established to the English game may be better.
posted on 4/10/11
Or am I just getting carried away ?
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Yes, very!
posted on 4/10/11
McInnes seems a decent shout. Worries me though his chairman is not fighting to keep him. Thought if he was any use the chairman might be 'active' in putting City off rather than 'as long as we get compensation we're happy'. Still, time will tell.
Billy Davies has managed 2 or 3 different clubs to the P/Os. I think successful Championship experience is vital so he would be my choice and essential he brings his 'own' backroom staff with him.
We need a complete clear out.
Dave Jones is another I'd be more than happy with.
Please God not Stuart Pearce.
posted on 4/10/11
I didn't know about any 'drinking culture' at Cardiff. If this is true then it would put me off Jones a bit - although his CC record is good and he is well known and attracted names like Bellamy and Chopra and Whittingham played for him too.
Uneasy about this Derek Innes bloke - he could struggle to attract signings like Milly did(?)
posted on 4/10/11
Of course we could also make a cheeky approach to Neil Warnock after QPR suffered an even bigger hammering than us last weekend
posted on 4/10/11
I'd be happy with Davies, although he does seem to bleat alot of money! Im not sure on Jones, he obviously knows his stuff but something makes me think he wouldnt be right for us. Im not sure why!
Not Pearce, Reid, Burley or anyone like that!
posted on 4/10/11
Bringing in a new man is always a gamble.
I wouldn't be sorry to see McInnes or Jones here, and whilst there are a few names floating around that I wouldn't be so keen on, it's my hope that the new man is able to energise the place. Not difficult at the moment, I know.
For now I'm enjoying the speculation, it's exciting times for the club and fans, in spite of being bottom.
posted on 4/10/11
I could be wrong obviously, but Mcinnes from a small club in the Scottish league! doesnt feel me with any hope or excitement about his being employed by us.
Not really sure getting teams promoted from the lower leagues in scotland really says much! sorry Scots.
I think the english lower leagues let a lone the Championship would offer a sterner job than up there.
Would prefer Davies or Jones myself, not saying they would neccessary have the midas touch, but they have been there, worn the t-shirt etc.
posted on 5/10/11
Why do you like McInnes Redside? I tend to agree with RedAndy.
Redprint, you like him too - why?
Convince me!
posted on 5/10/11
I'm not 100% sure R&W, he just seems to have that Scottish knack of getting the best from a side in that typical Scottish fashion. He seems like the kind of hungry hard nosed leader that the club would need at this time. The one thing I think we do not need is one of these managers who no longer have that burning passion like Reid, Burley etc they would just walk away, like Coppell because they dont have anything to prove whereas McInnes does, he wants to make a name for himself and we need someone with drive. This is of course my opinion. You can say what you want about Scottish football or Scottish players, but look at the Premier League, 7 out 20 managers are from Scotland, that's no coincidence!
The fact he has turned a small club like St Johnstone into a club now in the top half of their best league is also a booster for me, because that's exactly the job that faces any manager of this club. St Johnstone are a small Scottish club, we are a small English one! They are now competing for European places, beating the top sides and getting to cup semi finals, that's pretty good work in my book! Plus, he could be the next solid Scottish manager, its a gamble in know, but it maybe worth the risk.
Plus, a Scots friend of mines informs me that McInnes was a tough tackling midfielder who also had a great distribution which is an area that needs improvement, so forget managing us, we should sign him as a player!
posted on 5/10/11
You have good reasons Redside, but I'm not 100% convinced.
Yes, Scotish managers are doing well at the moment and I have no idea why.
But I worry that he has less experience than Keef at this level and you know my thoughts on him.
My thoughts are that if we were half way ou the league doing ok and Millen had walked out.....then someone like McInnes may just work.
But the manager that comes in has a lot of work to do, let alone getting his head around Championship football etc.
Having said that, if he was appointed, I would of course back him all the way.......but he would need to get results quick, otherwise the fans will say the board has gone for another cheap option and be down on him like a rat up a drain pipe!!
posted on 5/10/11
'Redprint, you like him too - why?'
For the same reasons as R/S. But I did add that I had a concern of the St Johnstone chairman being quite keen to talk 'compensation' rather than fighting to keep McInnes.
Can't help feeling Billy Davies has the right experience to save and then push City towards the P/Os, especially if he is allowed to bring in his own backroom staff.
posted on 5/10/11
Probably just as well you guys aren't choosing the manager
posted on 5/10/11
But I did add that I had a concern of the St Johnstone chairman being quite keen to talk 'compensation' rather than fighting to keep McInnes.
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I can only imagine he is being realistic in respect of that point! In any event, i believe its for that reason that we may not appoint him. There are other good candidates, such as Davies who are unattached and given our financial state, that must be on tghe minds of the board.
posted on 5/10/11
Rickster
Surely by now you have realised that my knowledge on all things Bristol City is supreme, so I fail to comprehend your cruel comment - 'Probably just as well you guys aren't choosing the manager'
Although you've cut me to the quick I refuse to respond by 'cutting and pasting' your comments since last June about the sadly departed Millen.
However please allow me just 1 of your barbed comments -
posted on 29/6/11
''Blimey RP
We haven't even kicked a ball pre season yet and you are already writing us off''.
BRR - Some of us are truly gifted.
In fact, if I chose to take a salary reduction I would take the manager's position with 1For as No2, R&W instead of Sextone and R/S my first £1million signing (we'll sort his knee out).
ps - OK 1For, don't get funny - we'll do it jointly.
posted on 5/10/11
I'm with you akll the way Redprint....
Rickster must hate me then, I wanted Millen gone half way through LAST season!!!
Some of us can see things that others can't!!
posted on 5/10/11
Redprint, with that mix of different opinions we would either find the perfect winning formula, or never actually manage to make a single decision during our tenure
posted on 5/10/11
I'm glad Millens gone,I'm another one of the so called Millen haters,but as I've always said," I'm a BCFC fan and supporter and not a Millen fan".
For BCFC the future is good and every fans opinion is valid,we are all REDS, together...
posted on 6/10/11
Being a fan is a bit like being a politician sometimes: everyone has the same or similar aspirations of success for our club, but fight furiously over how to achieve it!
posted on 6/10/11
I think i'd like to be Director of Football, im not exactly what that is but if Barry Fry can do it im sure i can!
posted on 7/10/11
Well according to various pundits Zola is also in the frame but It seems that they are looking more at people who have applied for the job rather than going head hunting which might well be the best option.
I'm sorry Millie failed I thought when he was appointed it was the wrong time but for a while last season he seemed to be able to pull the team together, however what proved to work last season for some reason he dumped this season and his apparent belief that Skuse and Fontaine were the answer to all of our problems left me very confused.
Well a week to go before our next match I wonder if we will have a new manager in place by that time? and I suppose more to the point who will it be?.
I wonder if we will find out who is on the short list that is apparently being made up at the moment It would be really interesting to find out who the 50 or so applications are from.
posted on 11/10/11
Redprint
This I posted a few weeks ago if you recall.
I stamped and shouted, and threw toys from pram in support of Millen, because I WANTED to believe, and because I watched a few idiots bring down our best chance in 30 years (GJ).
But the fact is that the longer into this season we went, the more it became obvious that Millen couldnt inspire the troops and his demeanour became increasingly hopeless and clueless. There were shafts of sunlight (last season) and they kept it going, but now the wheels have fallen off.
Onefor
Hates a strong word
Lets just say that, as Wizered has always said, I am Bristol City, whoever calls the tune.
We just have different ways of going about it
RP
"BRR - Some of us are truly gifted."
And some of us are full of it RP
Worth remembering we ARE still on the same side, even if we do see it from a different angle
posted on 11/10/11
BRR
You didn't need to post the above. On numerous occasions I've read on here how you regretted backing Millen.
'And some of us are full of it RP' -
I have to admit, I wasn't at the back of the queue when loud mouths were handed out.
I also know I go to far sometimes.
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