Think it’s the only way to go for us in d Scotland prof

It’s all about timing though as Bassey proves- not so long ago he wasn’t rated by many. Thinking of kayal and izzy at Celtic - great first seasons at Celtic could have seen us cash in but then went in to fairly meh form and lost their value. No player bigger than a club though and new favourites will emerge.

Agree with all of this and it’s great to see the current board continuing the fantastic work done by Dave King and fulfilling all the promises made to the fans, and most of them ahead of schedule as well. There is a great head of steam building up behind rangers at the moment and I can the upcoming season being one of the most pivotal in a long time

WATP

We will miss Bassey because he did directly contribute to our success in the cups second half of last season - and yes I am counting getting to the Europa final as a success.

He showed he could make a difference in big games and contributed with key assists and performances in Europe and the Scottish cup.

But the model we are trying to adopt is the only way forward for us in lieu of some billionaire coming in and making us our plaything.

The hard bit is selling players and sustaining the level of the team by either bring the right players in or timing the development of the next guy in the system so they are ready to step up and blossom when a gap appears.

But as I said previously- if the Bassey deal goes through at the quoted numbers that will be three big deals in 12 months which is basically a validation that they are getting things right.

Ross Wilson was mocked for valuing the first team squad at £100-150m I think it was.

We will get up to £50m for three players and two of them weren’t even first team starters when he made that valuation.

It's the way it is Prof, the good thing about it it shows that sometimes with minimal outlay you can reap great rewards. Bigger picture it shows players that they can punt in taking the option to play for either of us with a view to a big move in a couple of seasons. Can only be good for the game in Scotland.

It's encouraging that our scouting system unearthed Bassey, Aribo, Morelos, and Kamara. There's no reason to think that this process will suddenly grind to a halt.
Bassey and Morelos particularly were excellent finds but we cannot get too emotional about them. Others will take their place.

We also can’t get too upset that in amongst the good signings that work are guys like Simpson, Bacuna etc who aren’t up to scratch.

We just need to hope that we continue to improve our success % when it comes to signings.

If one in three "risky" purchases turns into a Morelos or a Bassey then I think we'll be in a good place. In terms of Morelos and Kent now, we might get a decent fee for Kent but Morelos we might be better keeping for his last year - he's just so integral to how we play tactically that I think we'll struggle to make an impact in europe without him.

I've said it before, any Scottish team getting offer more than £15M for a player after a season or two has to cash in.

Think Morrlos and Kent should have been sold at the peak of their valuation.

Scottish clubs can't afford to diik about with high value players, we held on to Eddy for too long. Hate it when they go, but we have to be smart not emotional.

I think both Kent and Morelos will extend their contracts because both seem to be very settled and happy to be here. I think Morelos just bought a new house and I think that’s the same with Kent.

I’ve seen it said that there’s a ceiling that players in Scotland have value wise and I think Bassey hit that so best to sell. Unfortunately it’s a fact for both Rangers and Celtic and both have to live with that and make it work.

Rangers have been playing catch up on that front and many others trying to scramble back to being in a healthy position and I think we’re getting there very quickly. It can only be a good thing for Scottish football to have a strong healthy OF rivalry again.

Sad to see Bassey go but can’t hold him back while he’s possibly destined for great things.

comment by rats juice wun uz ra leeg...so it huz (U6393)
posted 30 minutes ago
I’ve seen it said that there’s a ceiling that players in Scotland have value wise and I think Bassey hit that so best to sell. Unfortunately it’s a fact for both Rangers and Celtic and both have to live with that and make it work.
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I agree with that to an extent, but if you look at fees that players from, for example, the Portuguese league can command then clearly their ceiling is much higher than ours. I think the only way we can raise ours is by progressively reinvesting in incrementally more promising talents, maintaining European runs and - maybe most difficult of all - raising the standard of the league overall so it at least reflects the style of football played in the big-spending leagues.

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comment by rats juice wun uz ra leeg...so it huz (U6393)
posted 30 minutes ago
I’ve seen it said that there’s a ceiling that players in Scotland have value wise and I think Bassey hit that so best to sell. Unfortunately it’s a fact for both Rangers and Celtic and both have to live with that and make it work.
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I agree with that to an extent, but if you look at fees that players from, for example, the Portuguese league can command then clearly their ceiling is much higher than ours. I think the only way we can raise ours is by progressively reinvesting in incrementally more promising talents, maintaining European runs and - maybe most difficult of all - raising the standard of the league overall so it at least reflects the style of football played in the big-spending leagues.
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You only need to look at the effect of Hickey on the other teams in our league.

£4.5m for Ramsay, £3m for Ferguson and £3m for Doig is all good money and maybe wouldn’t of happened if Bologna hadn’t turned Hickey into a £15-20m player

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comment by rats juice wun uz ra leeg...so it huz (U6393)
posted 30 minutes ago
I’ve seen it said that there’s a ceiling that players in Scotland have value wise and I think Bassey hit that so best to sell. Unfortunately it’s a fact for both Rangers and Celtic and both have to live with that and make it work.
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I agree with that to an extent, but if you look at fees that players from, for example, the Portuguese league can command then clearly their ceiling is much higher than ours. I think the only way we can raise ours is by progressively reinvesting in incrementally more promising talents, maintaining European runs and - maybe most difficult of all - raising the standard of the league overall so it at least reflects the style of football played in the big-spending leagues.
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And also by being far tougher in our negotiations with the buying clubs

I really hope that Celtic try to copy this 'our player-trading model' that Rangers have.

Ideally make a small enhancement and get the players to actially play a decent number of games first. That would ge good.

Then re-invest the money in the squad.

comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
I really hope that Celtic try to copy this 'our player-trading model' that Rangers have.

Ideally make a small enhancement and get the players to actially play a decent number of games first. That would ge good.

Then re-invest the money in the squad.
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I would say it is actually rangers that are copying Celtics model, which Celtic copied from many many others. It just so happens that rangers are doing it far better at the moment, it happens

And as for playing a decent amount of games first it depends entirely on how good the player is. It took English clubs 4 years to make their mind up about KT for example and arsenal are looking to replace already

KT, VVD and Wanyama were also not instrumental in getting Celtic to a European Final whereas Aribo and Bassey were.

Also, the less time they are here the greater the ROI which is why “our model” is far more successful at this point in time

I will just have a chuckle to myself about the “re-invest the money in the squad” comment and let the irony of it engulf yourself

comment by RIP Terry Munro (U22874)
posted 7 minutes ago
And as for playing a decent amount of games first it depends entirely on how good the player is. It took English clubs 4 years to make their mind up about KT for example and arsenal are looking to replace already

KT, VVD and Wanyama were also not instrumental in getting Celtic to a European Final whereas Aribo and Bassey were.

Also, the less time they are here the greater the ROI which is why “our model” is far more successful at this point in time

I will just have a chuckle to myself about the “re-invest the money in the squad” comment and let the irony of it engulf yourself
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Celtic have made a fortune in the last ten years.
KT
Frimpong
Ajer
Dembele
Forster
Wanyama
Armstrong

Celtic have done fantastically well trading players in the last ten years. No doubt 👍

Rangers player trading model isn’t a new concept and no one has claimed it is.

It is just a new phase of our financial and footballing recovery that has been part of our strategy for some years now.

And it appears to be very much coming to fruition. It seems like our permanently mocked board actually did have a decent plan all along and they were actually doing a pretty good job of delivering on it.

That of course leaves those doing the mocking with a significant amount of egg on their faces. Past form tells us that won’t make much of a difference though - I’m sure there will still be some way to twist this into a Rangers Bad story…..😉👍

comment by Zico 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (U21900)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RIP Terry Munro (U22874)
posted 7 minutes ago
And as for playing a decent amount of games first it depends entirely on how good the player is. It took English clubs 4 years to make their mind up about KT for example and arsenal are looking to replace already

KT, VVD and Wanyama were also not instrumental in getting Celtic to a European Final whereas Aribo and Bassey were.

Also, the less time they are here the greater the ROI which is why “our model” is far more successful at this point in time

I will just have a chuckle to myself about the “re-invest the money in the squad” comment and let the irony of it engulf yourself
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Celtic have made a fortune in the last ten years.
KT
Frimpong
Ajer
Dembele
Forster
Wanyama
Armstrong
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Definitely, I am not denying that at all and they have been fantastic at it, I don’t mind congratulating my rivals and saying they have done well 😃

It’s pretty funny now, however, that the same Celtic posters who have been banging their gums about no rangers players being worth anything are now bleating about them not playing enough games before their mega bucks move 😂

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 34 seconds ago
Celtic have done fantastically well trading players in the last ten years. No doubt 👍

Rangers player trading model isn’t a new concept and no one has claimed it is.

It is just a new phase of our financial and footballing recovery that has been part of our strategy for some years now.

And it appears to be very much coming to fruition. It seems like our permanently mocked board actually did have a decent plan all along and they were actually doing a pretty good job of delivering on it.

That of course leaves those doing the mocking with a significant amount of egg on their faces. Past form tells us that won’t make much of a difference though - I’m sure there will still be some way to twist this into a Rangers Bad story…..😉👍
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Aye bit they huvnae played a load of games before their big bucks moves 😂😂

comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 57 minutes ago
I really hope that Celtic try to copy this 'our player-trading model' that Rangers have.

Ideally make a small enhancement and get the players to actially play a decent number of games first. That would ge good.

Then re-invest the money in the squad.
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Correct me if I wrong, I sure you will, was it not your good self a few months ago posting we have had no bids as no one wants our players

comment by puyolsnohadahaircut (U6410)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Magnum (Stopping the 2) (U22391)
posted 57 minutes ago
I really hope that Celtic try to copy this 'our player-trading model' that Rangers have.

Ideally make a small enhancement and get the players to actially play a decent number of games first. That would ge good.

Then re-invest the money in the squad.
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Correct me if I wrong, I sure you will, was it not your good self a few months ago posting we have had no bids as no one wants our players
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To be fair he was one of many, I’m led to believe they are grown ups as well 👍

It's like two baldy cants fighting over a comb.

It's surprising, but Rangers seem to have done pretty well with their sales recently. More surprising is them holding on to Morelos and Kent, well maybe they were hoping they stayed and helped win the league.

Celtic and Rangers are in good positions, it'll be interesting seeing what else happens in this window. Rangers could go out and buy two players at around £5M, as could Celtic, time will tell.

The season is going to be as tight as last, hopefully Celtic are at the top again, although I'm not certain, and I wouldn't want to state winning the league a certainly, in case I'm hounded and ridiculed for it on here..

comment by Zico 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (U21900)
posted 56 seconds ago
It's like two baldy cants fighting over a comb.

It's surprising, but Rangers seem to have done pretty well with their sales recently. More surprising is them holding on to Morelos and Kent, well maybe they were hoping they stayed and helped win the league.

Celtic and Rangers are in good positions, it'll be interesting seeing what else happens in this window. Rangers could go out and buy two players at around £5M, as could Celtic, time will tell.

The season is going to be as tight as last, hopefully Celtic are at the top again, although I'm not certain, and I wouldn't want to state winning the league a certainly, in case I'm hounded and ridiculed for it on here..
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As a matter of interest why is it surprising that rangers have done well with their sales? It was a declared business strategy that they continually pushed for so would be interesting to know why it would be a surprise?

Could you have told me a year ago Rangers would sell three players for £44M..?

With players like Ian Black etc certainly not.

Players like Kent, morelos aribo bassey and even before Patterson was sold it was a constant no one is bidding for your players, no one wants them.

Not wanting a pay on the back but be good if certain posters just say

Hey we got it wrong.