comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
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So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
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comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
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So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
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You have to love it when you can use these idiots own logic against them.
VC, I hope you're taking nightmare notes here.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 15 minutes ago
VC, I hope you're taking nightmare notes here.
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A treasure trove of evidence today from Nick.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
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So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
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Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
So back to my original comment. You have looked poor so far this year and a counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
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So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
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Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
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Look at our first goal yesterday though. Not exactly counter-attacking (unless we were countering our own attack).
We’re not really trying to win the league this season; we’re trying to get top four. It’s obviously going to take a while to get quality Hagball working so in the meantime we’ll be more pragmatic.
Yeah understandably so. Not sure how we got into a topic of counter attacking anyway. If you look at my first comment it was more just that Utd have done well to get wins despite not really being great. Which users like scholes agreed with. Two weeks ago it was panic stations and now all is good. Narratives can change quickly and ten hag will need time.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
So back to my original comment. You have looked poor so far this year and a counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.
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Possession was much more evenly shared until United took the lead though. You'd be surprised how many teams play more conservatively and look to counter once they're in the lead.
Have a look at United's possession stats in games where they're taken the lead as opposed to games where they've been chasing the result...and look at how those stats varied according to the scoreline.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
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So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
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Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
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This was your earlier argument.
'can’t remember any team thars won the league using overwhelmingly counter attacking football.'
Despite other posters telling you plenty of teams have won titles this way it clearly does not define us by using your own logic.
One could say you have had another mare today, and have evidence to back it up.
Rosso has completely destroyed you as well. Your own team, for example won a CL by counter attacking. Let alone a fair few titles.
“ counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.”
______
Tell us why anyone in the world needs to justify themselves to the likes of you.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was your earlier argument.
'can’t remember any team thars won the league using overwhelmingly counter attacking football.'
Despite other posters telling you plenty of teams have won titles this way it clearly does not define us by using your own logic.
One could say you have had another mare today, and have evidence to back it up.
Rosso has completely destroyed you as well. Your own team, for example won a CL by counter attacking. Let alone a fair few titles.
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no poster has told me plenty of others. Infact one of the two teams he cited as an example was a lie.
comment by Beeb (U1841)
posted 4 minutes ago
“ counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.”
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Tell us why anyone in the world needs to justify themselves to the likes of you.
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"the likes"? lol. and its a football forum for discussion.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
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Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was your earlier argument.
'can’t remember any team thars won the league using overwhelmingly counter attacking football.'
Despite other posters telling you plenty of teams have won titles this way it clearly does not define us by using your own logic.
One could say you have had another mare today, and have evidence to back it up.
Rosso has completely destroyed you as well. Your own team, for example won a CL by counter attacking. Let alone a fair few titles.
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no poster has told me plenty of others. Infact one of the two teams he cited as an example was a lie.
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He only had to get one right. Have another go.
There's always one exception. Didn't know the utd board was so hostile. Like the spurs board atm. Never had any issues before.
Nickasaurus, it's rather simplistic to claim that over 50% possession = possession-based attacking, while under 50% = counter-attacking. Teams can control possession for the majority of a match but score a majority of their goals from hitting teams ruthlessly on the transition. Mourinho's Chelsea sides would have been a lot less successful if they hadn't been extremely efficient at counter-attacking.
United are clearly a work in progress and have a way to go before we can drastically improve on the way we struggle against low block defences. However, we've already scored a few goals from extended passing moves this season, including the 18-pass move that led to our opening goal against Arsenal.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Beeb (U1841)
posted 4 minutes ago
“ counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.”
______
Tell us why anyone in the world needs to justify themselves to the likes of you.
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"the likes"? lol. and its a football forum for discussion.
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Then discuss something sensible, you oaf.
Mourinho’s Chelsea not being a counter attacking team is one of my favourite comments on this site.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 14 minutes ago
There's always one exception. Didn't know the utd board was so hostile. Like the spurs board atm. Never had any issues before.
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Maybe you should stop talking $hite then and think before you press send.
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mourinho’s Chelsea not being a counter attacking team is one of my favourite comments on this site.
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04-06 we dominated every game nearly possession wise and played a slow build up game. But what do I know. I only went to all the games
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 14 minutes ago
There's always one exception. Didn't know the utd board was so hostile. Like the spurs board atm. Never had any issues before.
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Maybe you should stop talking $hite then and think before you press send.
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this is great from you of all people
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mourinho’s Chelsea not being a counter attacking team is one of my favourite comments on this site.
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04-06 we dominated every game nearly possession wise and played a slow build up game. But what do I know. I only went to all the games
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And yet here you are trying to tell people who watch all of our games how we are playing..
Arrogance beyond belief.
But what do I know.
———
Something we’re all wondering.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 14 minutes ago
There's always one exception. Didn't know the utd board was so hostile. Like the spurs board atm. Never had any issues before.
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Maybe you should stop talking $hite then and think before you press send.
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this is great from you of all people
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How so? I don’t even come close to talking as much twaddle as you do. I don’t even think RDD does.
I swear your universally disliked on this site? Be interested to see what twaddle I talk though?! Any examples let me know. Other than this articles supposed twaddle
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posted on 5/9/22
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
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posted on 5/9/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
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You have to love it when you can use these idiots own logic against them.
posted on 5/9/22
VC, I hope you're taking nightmare notes here.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 15 minutes ago
VC, I hope you're taking nightmare notes here.
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A treasure trove of evidence today from Nick.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
posted on 5/9/22
So back to my original comment. You have looked poor so far this year and a counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look at our first goal yesterday though. Not exactly counter-attacking (unless we were countering our own attack).
We’re not really trying to win the league this season; we’re trying to get top four. It’s obviously going to take a while to get quality Hagball working so in the meantime we’ll be more pragmatic.
posted on 5/9/22
Yeah understandably so. Not sure how we got into a topic of counter attacking anyway. If you look at my first comment it was more just that Utd have done well to get wins despite not really being great. Which users like scholes agreed with. Two weeks ago it was panic stations and now all is good. Narratives can change quickly and ten hag will need time.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
So back to my original comment. You have looked poor so far this year and a counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.
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Possession was much more evenly shared until United took the lead though. You'd be surprised how many teams play more conservatively and look to counter once they're in the lead.
Have a look at United's possession stats in games where they're taken the lead as opposed to games where they've been chasing the result...and look at how those stats varied according to the scoreline.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was your earlier argument.
'can’t remember any team thars won the league using overwhelmingly counter attacking football.'
Despite other posters telling you plenty of teams have won titles this way it clearly does not define us by using your own logic.
One could say you have had another mare today, and have evidence to back it up.
Rosso has completely destroyed you as well. Your own team, for example won a CL by counter attacking. Let alone a fair few titles.
posted on 5/9/22
“ counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.”
______
Tell us why anyone in the world needs to justify themselves to the likes of you.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was your earlier argument.
'can’t remember any team thars won the league using overwhelmingly counter attacking football.'
Despite other posters telling you plenty of teams have won titles this way it clearly does not define us by using your own logic.
One could say you have had another mare today, and have evidence to back it up.
Rosso has completely destroyed you as well. Your own team, for example won a CL by counter attacking. Let alone a fair few titles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no poster has told me plenty of others. Infact one of the two teams he cited as an example was a lie.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Beeb (U1841)
posted 4 minutes ago
“ counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.”
______
Tell us why anyone in the world needs to justify themselves to the likes of you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"the likes"? lol. and its a football forum for discussion.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 7 minutes ago
It's not really an opinion. It's common sense. If you have more of the ball you are not on the counter.
Anyway have a good day.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you are saying is that in half of our games so far we have not played counter attacking football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly that. Your two best results this year are from counter attacking football. You can’t rely on that all season against lower league teams. In the games you’ve had more possession you’ve struggled getting slight victories by 1 goal and been beaten.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This was your earlier argument.
'can’t remember any team thars won the league using overwhelmingly counter attacking football.'
Despite other posters telling you plenty of teams have won titles this way it clearly does not define us by using your own logic.
One could say you have had another mare today, and have evidence to back it up.
Rosso has completely destroyed you as well. Your own team, for example won a CL by counter attacking. Let alone a fair few titles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no poster has told me plenty of others. Infact one of the two teams he cited as an example was a lie.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He only had to get one right. Have another go.
posted on 5/9/22
There's always one exception. Didn't know the utd board was so hostile. Like the spurs board atm. Never had any issues before.
posted on 5/9/22
Nickasaurus, it's rather simplistic to claim that over 50% possession = possession-based attacking, while under 50% = counter-attacking. Teams can control possession for the majority of a match but score a majority of their goals from hitting teams ruthlessly on the transition. Mourinho's Chelsea sides would have been a lot less successful if they hadn't been extremely efficient at counter-attacking.
United are clearly a work in progress and have a way to go before we can drastically improve on the way we struggle against low block defences. However, we've already scored a few goals from extended passing moves this season, including the 18-pass move that led to our opening goal against Arsenal.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Beeb (U1841)
posted 4 minutes ago
“ counter attacking win against arsenal yesterday has still not convinced me.”
______
Tell us why anyone in the world needs to justify themselves to the likes of you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"the likes"? lol. and its a football forum for discussion.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Then discuss something sensible, you oaf.
posted on 5/9/22
Mourinho’s Chelsea not being a counter attacking team is one of my favourite comments on this site.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 14 minutes ago
There's always one exception. Didn't know the utd board was so hostile. Like the spurs board atm. Never had any issues before.
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Maybe you should stop talking $hite then and think before you press send.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mourinho’s Chelsea not being a counter attacking team is one of my favourite comments on this site.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
04-06 we dominated every game nearly possession wise and played a slow build up game. But what do I know. I only went to all the games
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 14 minutes ago
There's always one exception. Didn't know the utd board was so hostile. Like the spurs board atm. Never had any issues before.
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Maybe you should stop talking $hite then and think before you press send.
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this is great from you of all people
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Marcus The Triumvir Antony (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Mourinho’s Chelsea not being a counter attacking team is one of my favourite comments on this site.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
04-06 we dominated every game nearly possession wise and played a slow build up game. But what do I know. I only went to all the games
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And yet here you are trying to tell people who watch all of our games how we are playing..
Arrogance beyond belief.
posted on 5/9/22
But what do I know.
———
Something we’re all wondering.
posted on 5/9/22
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 14 minutes ago
There's always one exception. Didn't know the utd board was so hostile. Like the spurs board atm. Never had any issues before.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe you should stop talking $hite then and think before you press send.
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this is great from you of all people
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How so? I don’t even come close to talking as much twaddle as you do. I don’t even think RDD does.
posted on 5/9/22
I swear your universally disliked on this site? Be interested to see what twaddle I talk though?! Any examples let me know. Other than this articles supposed twaddle
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