i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas mate, not saying he should hug the line or anything but needs to be aware of the space in behind him as well, they midfield and a CB should have handled it.
we're not taking enough chances, i like maedas workrate but has he ever won a tackle?
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas mate, not saying he should hug the line or anything but needs to be aware of the space in behind him as well, they midfield and a CB should have handled it.
we're not taking enough chances, i like maedas workrate but has he ever won a tackle?
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The Japanese lads infuriate me with their lack of nastiness and kindness towards opposition players and officials!
‘i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas’
Which kind of backs my point up-Jota wasn’t disciplined enough and let his man move into an area that left us exposed.
Glad we agree…
comment by LogieB... (U8397)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas mate, not saying he should hug the line or anything but needs to be aware of the space in behind him as well, they midfield and a CB should have handled it.
we're not taking enough chances, i like maedas workrate but has he ever won a tackle?
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The Japanese lads infuriate me with their lack of nastiness and kindness towards opposition players and officials!
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
Was about to say we’ve still the two home games against the teams we believe we should be closer to.
They both have to pick up points as well to progress, so should be decent games.
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i'll be honest i'm not sure i fancy our chances of beating RB at home, possibly donetsk.
That said, the lad Mudryk is dangerous, i honestly can't say we will have watched him in the first game, and come into the second game with any plan on nullifying him outwith "play our own game".
if we lose to RB @ home we need to hope Shaktar don't pick up anymore points for third.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 14 seconds ago
‘i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas’
Which kind of backs my point up-Jota wasn’t disciplined enough and let his man move into an area that left us exposed.
Glad we agree…
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i mention about us being naive defensively, if we are relying on Jota doing our defensive work on his own on the left then we are beyond help mate.
No one said we should rely on Jota doing all our defensive work-only that he should do his own defensive work.
Kills you to admit you actually agree with me.
Nah you cant pin last nights 3rd goal on Jota
Taylor vacated the space which then offered up the option for the fullback to run into and exploit
the guys got the run on Jota and starts ahead of him when he goes -
bottom line is if Taylor passes him on and hold a semblance of shape then that move cant happen
ah see you can't do that, you can't add "all" in there mate .
Just to cover the left hand side alone, seems unrealistic imo.
you just don't want to admit taylor shouldn't be that far across.
thats not even a knock on taylor, because he might be picking up the slack from where the midfield aren't doing their job.
ive just watched it again
hes not even marking anyone , hes just drifting in and leaving a big wide space to exploit
wtf is he doing ??
3rd goal is Juranovics fault, giving the ball away under no pressure, trying to play a mad 1-2 with Hatate
‘Taylor vacated the space which then offered up the option for the fullback to run into and exploit’
The move started on the opposite wing. Full backs always tuck in closer to their centre halfs. If he stayed out wide, the gap inside would have been mental!
‘the guys got the run on Jota and starts ahead of him when he goes’
Why is our winger closer to their goal than their full back when they have possession then?
He was tired and wasn’t paying attention-it happens. It left the whole left hand side exposed though because Taylor had taken the position that every full back takes in that circumstance-closer to his 2 CH’s.
Btw-is it centre halfs or centre halves?
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 2 minutes ago
3rd goal is Juranovics fault, giving the ball away under no pressure, trying to play a mad 1-2 with Hatate
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I'll just go with this and save a few hours
Just watched it back, no chance mate look where is he standing, marking nobody.
https://ibb.co/y8YyFLd
No need for him to be all the way over there
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just watched it back, no chance mate look where is he standing, marking nobody.
https://ibb.co/y8YyFLd
No need for him to be all the way over there
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good work !!
I suspect POV will now admit that Taylors postioning is the ultimate factor in the goal
thats ridiculous looking at that still , although hes followed forsberg there
I have been impressed with how Celtic have played in the three games. You haven't been outplayed in all those games. I think you need some fitness gurus who can improve your intensity throughout the 90 minutes or scout press resistant players who can run and have some technical ability to hold on the ball under pressure.
The Red Bull teams are doing that and have improved massively. Celtic should be able to invest in those areas.
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just watched it back, no chance mate look where is he standing, marking nobody.
https://ibb.co/y8YyFLd
No need for him to be all the way over there
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good work !!
I suspect POV will now admit that Taylors postioning is the ultimate factor in the goal
thats ridiculous looking at that still , although hes followed forsberg there
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worst bit about it is he's running back, where was he before that
We had the ball when he was moving forward-why would he be marking anybody at that point??
Who did you want him to mark-the guy that ran off Jenz to score?
He’s where it’s expected of him to be when we’ve got the ball-moving forward to midfield.
Jota is jogging back when we lose the ball. His man has already started sprinting and he can’t make the ground up.
Taylor isn’t blameless-none of them are-but to pin that goal on Taylor is crazy for me.
mate
come on.
what is he doing over there, it's mental.
comment by Boca Seniors (U19731)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have been impressed with how Celtic have played in the three games. You haven't been outplayed in all those games. I think you need some fitness gurus who can improve your intensity throughout the 90 minutes or scout press resistant players who can run and have some technical ability to hold on the ball under pressure.
The Red Bull teams are doing that and have improved massively. Celtic should be able to invest in those areas.
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we have plenty of Sports Scientists ( various Fields ) involved with the first team , most teams do
there is also 5x data analysts for the first team alone . They all manage workload and intensity with the goal being to create the ultimate condition on Matchday
sometimes certain games are just faster and quicker and how you are with it on that particular day can vary immensely - despite having set routines.
top players tend to have a incredible fitness as well
Who did you want him to mark-the guy that ran off Jenz to score?
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nobody POV , thats the point - occupying the space hes vacated is all he should be doing
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
mate
come on.
what is he doing over there, it's mental.
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Why is Jota further ahead of their full back?
That’s his man to cover when they’re attacking.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
mate
come on.
what is he doing over there, it's mental.
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Why is Jota further ahead of their full back?
That’s his man to cover when they’re attacking.
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wait wait wait - two guesses who said this
" We had the ball when he was moving forward-why would he be marking anybody at that point??"
now , lets see if that smart guy can answer his own question with his own answer
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 43 seconds ago
Who did you want him to mark-the guy that ran off Jenz to score?
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nobody POV , thats the point - occupying the space hes vacated is all he should be doing
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JFK thinks he should be marking somebody.
That’s the way we play. The FB’s push forward when we’ve got the ball. If it was a winger that had that space, I’d say there was something wrong with the positioning. It was their right back though that met the cross-with Jota nowhere near it.
Ach well.
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
mate
come on.
what is he doing over there, it's mental.
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Why is Jota further ahead of their full back?
That’s his man to cover when they’re attacking.
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wait wait wait - two guesses who said this
" We had the ball when he was moving forward-why would he be marking anybody at that point??"
now , lets see if that smart guy can answer his own question with his own answer
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Don’t know what you mean.
Might be implying that Jota shouldn’t have been marking the right back-and he shouldn’t have been. Their right back should have been marking Jota, in which case when we lost the ball, Jota should have gone with him.
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posted on 6/10/22
i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas mate, not saying he should hug the line or anything but needs to be aware of the space in behind him as well, they midfield and a CB should have handled it.
we're not taking enough chances, i like maedas workrate but has he ever won a tackle?
posted on 6/10/22
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas mate, not saying he should hug the line or anything but needs to be aware of the space in behind him as well, they midfield and a CB should have handled it.
we're not taking enough chances, i like maedas workrate but has he ever won a tackle?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Japanese lads infuriate me with their lack of nastiness and kindness towards opposition players and officials!
posted on 6/10/22
‘i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas’
Which kind of backs my point up-Jota wasn’t disciplined enough and let his man move into an area that left us exposed.
Glad we agree…
posted on 6/10/22
comment by LogieB... (U8397)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas mate, not saying he should hug the line or anything but needs to be aware of the space in behind him as well, they midfield and a CB should have handled it.
we're not taking enough chances, i like maedas workrate but has he ever won a tackle?
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The Japanese lads infuriate me with their lack of nastiness and kindness towards opposition players and officials!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
Was about to say we’ve still the two home games against the teams we believe we should be closer to.
They both have to pick up points as well to progress, so should be decent games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
i'll be honest i'm not sure i fancy our chances of beating RB at home, possibly donetsk.
That said, the lad Mudryk is dangerous, i honestly can't say we will have watched him in the first game, and come into the second game with any plan on nullifying him outwith "play our own game".
if we lose to RB @ home we need to hope Shaktar don't pick up anymore points for third.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 14 seconds ago
‘i think we need to be more disciplined at this level and expect that they will move players into exposed areas’
Which kind of backs my point up-Jota wasn’t disciplined enough and let his man move into an area that left us exposed.
Glad we agree…
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i mention about us being naive defensively, if we are relying on Jota doing our defensive work on his own on the left then we are beyond help mate.
posted on 6/10/22
No one said we should rely on Jota doing all our defensive work-only that he should do his own defensive work.
Kills you to admit you actually agree with me.
posted on 6/10/22
Nah you cant pin last nights 3rd goal on Jota
Taylor vacated the space which then offered up the option for the fullback to run into and exploit
the guys got the run on Jota and starts ahead of him when he goes -
bottom line is if Taylor passes him on and hold a semblance of shape then that move cant happen
posted on 6/10/22
ah see you can't do that, you can't add "all" in there mate .
Just to cover the left hand side alone, seems unrealistic imo.
you just don't want to admit taylor shouldn't be that far across.
thats not even a knock on taylor, because he might be picking up the slack from where the midfield aren't doing their job.
posted on 6/10/22
ive just watched it again
hes not even marking anyone , hes just drifting in and leaving a big wide space to exploit
wtf is he doing ??
posted on 6/10/22
3rd goal is Juranovics fault, giving the ball away under no pressure, trying to play a mad 1-2 with Hatate
posted on 6/10/22
‘Taylor vacated the space which then offered up the option for the fullback to run into and exploit’
The move started on the opposite wing. Full backs always tuck in closer to their centre halfs. If he stayed out wide, the gap inside would have been mental!
‘the guys got the run on Jota and starts ahead of him when he goes’
Why is our winger closer to their goal than their full back when they have possession then?
He was tired and wasn’t paying attention-it happens. It left the whole left hand side exposed though because Taylor had taken the position that every full back takes in that circumstance-closer to his 2 CH’s.
Btw-is it centre halfs or centre halves?
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 2 minutes ago
3rd goal is Juranovics fault, giving the ball away under no pressure, trying to play a mad 1-2 with Hatate
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I'll just go with this and save a few hours
posted on 6/10/22
Just watched it back, no chance mate look where is he standing, marking nobody.
https://ibb.co/y8YyFLd
No need for him to be all the way over there
posted on 6/10/22
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just watched it back, no chance mate look where is he standing, marking nobody.
https://ibb.co/y8YyFLd
No need for him to be all the way over there
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good work !!
I suspect POV will now admit that Taylors postioning is the ultimate factor in the goal
thats ridiculous looking at that still , although hes followed forsberg there
posted on 6/10/22
I have been impressed with how Celtic have played in the three games. You haven't been outplayed in all those games. I think you need some fitness gurus who can improve your intensity throughout the 90 minutes or scout press resistant players who can run and have some technical ability to hold on the ball under pressure.
The Red Bull teams are doing that and have improved massively. Celtic should be able to invest in those areas.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just watched it back, no chance mate look where is he standing, marking nobody.
https://ibb.co/y8YyFLd
No need for him to be all the way over there
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good work !!
I suspect POV will now admit that Taylors postioning is the ultimate factor in the goal
thats ridiculous looking at that still , although hes followed forsberg there
----------------------------------------------------------------------
worst bit about it is he's running back, where was he before that
posted on 6/10/22
We had the ball when he was moving forward-why would he be marking anybody at that point??
Who did you want him to mark-the guy that ran off Jenz to score?
He’s where it’s expected of him to be when we’ve got the ball-moving forward to midfield.
Jota is jogging back when we lose the ball. His man has already started sprinting and he can’t make the ground up.
Taylor isn’t blameless-none of them are-but to pin that goal on Taylor is crazy for me.
posted on 6/10/22
mate
come on.
what is he doing over there, it's mental.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by Boca Seniors (U19731)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have been impressed with how Celtic have played in the three games. You haven't been outplayed in all those games. I think you need some fitness gurus who can improve your intensity throughout the 90 minutes or scout press resistant players who can run and have some technical ability to hold on the ball under pressure.
The Red Bull teams are doing that and have improved massively. Celtic should be able to invest in those areas.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
we have plenty of Sports Scientists ( various Fields ) involved with the first team , most teams do
there is also 5x data analysts for the first team alone . They all manage workload and intensity with the goal being to create the ultimate condition on Matchday
sometimes certain games are just faster and quicker and how you are with it on that particular day can vary immensely - despite having set routines.
top players tend to have a incredible fitness as well
posted on 6/10/22
Who did you want him to mark-the guy that ran off Jenz to score?
==========
nobody POV , thats the point - occupying the space hes vacated is all he should be doing
posted on 6/10/22
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
mate
come on.
what is he doing over there, it's mental.
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Why is Jota further ahead of their full back?
That’s his man to cover when they’re attacking.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
mate
come on.
what is he doing over there, it's mental.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is Jota further ahead of their full back?
That’s his man to cover when they’re attacking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
wait wait wait - two guesses who said this
" We had the ball when he was moving forward-why would he be marking anybody at that point??"
now , lets see if that smart guy can answer his own question with his own answer
posted on 6/10/22
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 43 seconds ago
Who did you want him to mark-the guy that ran off Jenz to score?
==========
nobody POV , thats the point - occupying the space hes vacated is all he should be doing
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JFK thinks he should be marking somebody.
That’s the way we play. The FB’s push forward when we’ve got the ball. If it was a winger that had that space, I’d say there was something wrong with the positioning. It was their right back though that met the cross-with Jota nowhere near it.
Ach well.
posted on 6/10/22
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 minute ago
mate
come on.
what is he doing over there, it's mental.
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Why is Jota further ahead of their full back?
That’s his man to cover when they’re attacking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
wait wait wait - two guesses who said this
" We had the ball when he was moving forward-why would he be marking anybody at that point??"
now , lets see if that smart guy can answer his own question with his own answer
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Don’t know what you mean.
Might be implying that Jota shouldn’t have been marking the right back-and he shouldn’t have been. Their right back should have been marking Jota, in which case when we lost the ball, Jota should have gone with him.
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