comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis - we shall see. If it’s thrown out. United have no legal bases to do that
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Bringing the club into disrepute?
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For being accused of something he didn't do?
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 41 minutes ago
I saw yesterday that she's now following him on Instagram again.
If she takes him back and the case is dropped it'll be a tricky situation for United really.
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Tricky? That would be the perfect situation
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Don't be silly. Of course it will be tricky.
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How?
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We've been through this countless times.
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Have we.
I see no reason why this would be tricky, other than for those that had found him guilty long ago..
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It'll be tricky because of the optics of United playing a suspected abuser. I know in law it's innocent until proven guilty but I think most of us have seen enough to know how distasteful it'd all be if he played for United again.
Don't get my wrong I'd have loved for this not to happen but the club has a wider responsibility to protect their reputation.
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All of this. Of course it's tricky. I mean he now being repeatedly arrested.
I've no love for Utd but I don't envy them in this situation. It's a £60m asset likely in the bin and aside of money Utd love a youth player coming through the ranks and that's before we go into Utd desperately needing a striker.
You've got a be a bit of a moron not to see this if we're honest.
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Lots of players have been arrested over the years. Its not a career killer.
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Never heard any audio like that though before have we? And it might not kill his career, but I doubt he will play at United again
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You're free to your opinion.
Personally, given his age, ability, value, time at the club, lack of charges, being back with the alleged victim, and some kind of explanation offered, he will be free to play again.
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Although I disagree with your opinion, I very much defend your right to be wrong
Interesting to know what kind of explanation would make the recording OK? To actual people and not just to you as you have a malfunctioning brain
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Adam Johnson hasnt kicked a ball again (top level) and he was released in 2019
Greenwood won’t kick a ball in this country again either
Doesn’t matter the result of the case …..the cloud he now brings surpasses any ability he has
Any United fan thinking he will play for them again is crazy
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If that were the case, United would have negotiated a settlement tomrelease him from his contract already.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis - we shall see. If it’s thrown out. United have no legal bases to do that
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Bringing the club into disrepute?
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The club can terminate his contract whenever they like if they believe there’s just cause. Clubs have used the allegation of reputational damage (or bringing the club into disrepute) to sanction and even terminate players’ contracts for decades.
The very worst scenario I can see for the club in such a case is if Greenwood then sues and the lawyers or courts decide that United pay up the rest of his contract plus legal fees.
AFAIK, he’s contracted to summer 2025 and on about £75k p/w. So we’re probably talking tops £10m out of the coffers, worst case.
From a cold, hard financial point of view measure that against the potential reputational damage done by allowing him to pull on the jersey again, and it’s a no-brainer IMO.
I think the club has to allow the criminal and judicial process to play out first, of course. Then, one way or another, he’s gone.
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I’m not so sure he will be…
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Wait until the sponsors start kicking up a fuss and cancelling contracts
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Which sponsors do you think would do that?
Our fans aren't about to stop buying Adidas products because a top young talent was not found guilty of anything other than talking to his girlfriend badly.
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis - we shall see. If it’s thrown out. United have no legal bases to do that
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Bringing the club into disrepute?
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The club can terminate his contract whenever they like if they believe there’s just cause. Clubs have used the allegation of reputational damage (or bringing the club into disrepute) to sanction and even terminate players’ contracts for decades.
The very worst scenario I can see for the club in such a case is if Greenwood then sues and the lawyers or courts decide that United pay up the rest of his contract plus legal fees.
AFAIK, he’s contracted to summer 2025 and on about £75k p/w. So we’re probably talking tops £10m out of the coffers, worst case.
From a cold, hard financial point of view measure that against the potential reputational damage done by allowing him to pull on the jersey again, and it’s a no-brainer IMO.
I think the club has to allow the criminal and judicial process to play out first, of course. Then, one way or another, he’s gone.
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They actually don't have to. But then they risk the embarrassment of having to pay damages if the player appeals and wins. Like what happened with the Derby player Richard Keogh. Usually a club will wait until the legal system has dealt with things first. I guess that there is also the fact that terminating his contract could impact on the legal case.
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Sorry, to be clear, I meant that *practically-speaking* in this case they have to let the legal process play out. Not that they’re legally obliged to
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If that were the case, then why suspend him?
They could pay him off whenever they wanted without any further responsibity.
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis - we shall see. If it’s thrown out. United have no legal bases to do that
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Bringing the club into disrepute?
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The club can terminate his contract whenever they like if they believe there’s just cause. Clubs have used the allegation of reputational damage (or bringing the club into disrepute) to sanction and even terminate players’ contracts for decades.
The very worst scenario I can see for the club in such a case is if Greenwood then sues and the lawyers or courts decide that United pay up the rest of his contract plus legal fees.
AFAIK, he’s contracted to summer 2025 and on about £75k p/w. So we’re probably talking tops £10m out of the coffers, worst case.
From a cold, hard financial point of view measure that against the potential reputational damage done by allowing him to pull on the jersey again, and it’s a no-brainer IMO.
I think the club has to allow the criminal and judicial process to play out first, of course. Then, one way or another, he’s gone.
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I’m not so sure he will be…
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Wait until the sponsors start kicking up a fuss and cancelling contracts
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I think the club would lose an awful lot of fans, too.
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Lose them how? What would you do?
What do you mean lose them how?
To those that think he should never play for United again, what would you do if he did?
How do you mean what would they do? Why?
Presume RDD and Nohlman have been defending him?
People who are adamant we will lose fans wouldnt even commit to closing there JA606 profile if he played for us again, let alone cut all ties with the club.
comment by David The King Beckham (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Presume RDD and Nohlman have been defending him?
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Only if you believe those judging him guilty are attacking him.
I won't be as dramatic and say I wouldn't ever support the club again if Greenwood plays for United in the future. I just know that wouldn't be true. I would be seriously disappointed though in the club if he did.
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
People who are adamant we will lose fans wouldnt even commit to closing there JA606 profile if he played for us again, let alone cut all ties with the club.
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What do you mean cut all ties? How?
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
I won't be as dramatic and say I wouldn't ever support the club again if Greenwood plays for United in the future. I just know that wouldn't be true. I would be seriously disappointed though in the club if he did.
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At least you admit it. Let's see if the others will put there money where their mouths are.
He's just been charged for various offences....main one being rape.
Greenwood charged with rape, engaging in controlling behaviour and assault.
Making up lies about a rape case to try and get some attention on an anonymous Internet forum is just about the most pathetic thing you can do tbh.
Admin, please just get rid of this prīck Culer's account.
Incels in tears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63272019
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Incels in tears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63272019
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I thought this was going to be Jordan Peterson’s interview with Piers Morgan.
comment by David The King Beckham (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Incels in tears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63272019
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I thought this was going to be Jordan Peterson’s interview with Piers Morgan.
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Anyone got a link to the tone of voice the charges were read out in? Could have been role play
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posted on 15/10/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis - we shall see. If it’s thrown out. United have no legal bases to do that
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Bringing the club into disrepute?
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For being accused of something he didn't do?
posted on 15/10/22
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 41 minutes ago
I saw yesterday that she's now following him on Instagram again.
If she takes him back and the case is dropped it'll be a tricky situation for United really.
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Tricky? That would be the perfect situation
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Don't be silly. Of course it will be tricky.
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How?
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We've been through this countless times.
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Have we.
I see no reason why this would be tricky, other than for those that had found him guilty long ago..
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It'll be tricky because of the optics of United playing a suspected abuser. I know in law it's innocent until proven guilty but I think most of us have seen enough to know how distasteful it'd all be if he played for United again.
Don't get my wrong I'd have loved for this not to happen but the club has a wider responsibility to protect their reputation.
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All of this. Of course it's tricky. I mean he now being repeatedly arrested.
I've no love for Utd but I don't envy them in this situation. It's a £60m asset likely in the bin and aside of money Utd love a youth player coming through the ranks and that's before we go into Utd desperately needing a striker.
You've got a be a bit of a moron not to see this if we're honest.
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Lots of players have been arrested over the years. Its not a career killer.
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Never heard any audio like that though before have we? And it might not kill his career, but I doubt he will play at United again
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You're free to your opinion.
Personally, given his age, ability, value, time at the club, lack of charges, being back with the alleged victim, and some kind of explanation offered, he will be free to play again.
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Although I disagree with your opinion, I very much defend your right to be wrong
posted on 15/10/22
Interesting to know what kind of explanation would make the recording OK? To actual people and not just to you as you have a malfunctioning brain
posted on 15/10/22
comment by Blackpolespur (U9242)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Adam Johnson hasnt kicked a ball again (top level) and he was released in 2019
Greenwood won’t kick a ball in this country again either
Doesn’t matter the result of the case …..the cloud he now brings surpasses any ability he has
Any United fan thinking he will play for them again is crazy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If that were the case, United would have negotiated a settlement tomrelease him from his contract already.
posted on 15/10/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis - we shall see. If it’s thrown out. United have no legal bases to do that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bringing the club into disrepute?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club can terminate his contract whenever they like if they believe there’s just cause. Clubs have used the allegation of reputational damage (or bringing the club into disrepute) to sanction and even terminate players’ contracts for decades.
The very worst scenario I can see for the club in such a case is if Greenwood then sues and the lawyers or courts decide that United pay up the rest of his contract plus legal fees.
AFAIK, he’s contracted to summer 2025 and on about £75k p/w. So we’re probably talking tops £10m out of the coffers, worst case.
From a cold, hard financial point of view measure that against the potential reputational damage done by allowing him to pull on the jersey again, and it’s a no-brainer IMO.
I think the club has to allow the criminal and judicial process to play out first, of course. Then, one way or another, he’s gone.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not so sure he will be…
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Wait until the sponsors start kicking up a fuss and cancelling contracts
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Which sponsors do you think would do that?
Our fans aren't about to stop buying Adidas products because a top young talent was not found guilty of anything other than talking to his girlfriend badly.
posted on 15/10/22
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis - we shall see. If it’s thrown out. United have no legal bases to do that
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Bringing the club into disrepute?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club can terminate his contract whenever they like if they believe there’s just cause. Clubs have used the allegation of reputational damage (or bringing the club into disrepute) to sanction and even terminate players’ contracts for decades.
The very worst scenario I can see for the club in such a case is if Greenwood then sues and the lawyers or courts decide that United pay up the rest of his contract plus legal fees.
AFAIK, he’s contracted to summer 2025 and on about £75k p/w. So we’re probably talking tops £10m out of the coffers, worst case.
From a cold, hard financial point of view measure that against the potential reputational damage done by allowing him to pull on the jersey again, and it’s a no-brainer IMO.
I think the club has to allow the criminal and judicial process to play out first, of course. Then, one way or another, he’s gone.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They actually don't have to. But then they risk the embarrassment of having to pay damages if the player appeals and wins. Like what happened with the Derby player Richard Keogh. Usually a club will wait until the legal system has dealt with things first. I guess that there is also the fact that terminating his contract could impact on the legal case.
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Sorry, to be clear, I meant that *practically-speaking* in this case they have to let the legal process play out. Not that they’re legally obliged to
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If that were the case, then why suspend him?
They could pay him off whenever they wanted without any further responsibity.
posted on 15/10/22
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Rosso out here drippin’ in finesse (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Elvis - we shall see. If it’s thrown out. United have no legal bases to do that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bringing the club into disrepute?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The club can terminate his contract whenever they like if they believe there’s just cause. Clubs have used the allegation of reputational damage (or bringing the club into disrepute) to sanction and even terminate players’ contracts for decades.
The very worst scenario I can see for the club in such a case is if Greenwood then sues and the lawyers or courts decide that United pay up the rest of his contract plus legal fees.
AFAIK, he’s contracted to summer 2025 and on about £75k p/w. So we’re probably talking tops £10m out of the coffers, worst case.
From a cold, hard financial point of view measure that against the potential reputational damage done by allowing him to pull on the jersey again, and it’s a no-brainer IMO.
I think the club has to allow the criminal and judicial process to play out first, of course. Then, one way or another, he’s gone.
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I’m not so sure he will be…
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Wait until the sponsors start kicking up a fuss and cancelling contracts
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I think the club would lose an awful lot of fans, too.
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Lose them how? What would you do?
posted on 15/10/22
What do you mean lose them how?
posted on 15/10/22
To those that think he should never play for United again, what would you do if he did?
posted on 15/10/22
How do you mean what would they do? Why?
posted on 15/10/22
Presume RDD and Nohlman have been defending him?
posted on 15/10/22
People who are adamant we will lose fans wouldnt even commit to closing there JA606 profile if he played for us again, let alone cut all ties with the club.
posted on 15/10/22
comment by David The King Beckham (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
Presume RDD and Nohlman have been defending him?
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Only if you believe those judging him guilty are attacking him.
posted on 15/10/22
I won't be as dramatic and say I wouldn't ever support the club again if Greenwood plays for United in the future. I just know that wouldn't be true. I would be seriously disappointed though in the club if he did.
posted on 15/10/22
comment by The Butcher (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
People who are adamant we will lose fans wouldnt even commit to closing there JA606 profile if he played for us again, let alone cut all ties with the club.
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What do you mean cut all ties? How?
posted on 15/10/22
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
I won't be as dramatic and say I wouldn't ever support the club again if Greenwood plays for United in the future. I just know that wouldn't be true. I would be seriously disappointed though in the club if he did.
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At least you admit it. Let's see if the others will put there money where their mouths are.
posted on 15/10/22
He's just been charged for various offences....main one being rape.
posted on 15/10/22
Greenwood charged with rape, engaging in controlling behaviour and assault.
posted on 15/10/22
Culer 😂😂😂
posted on 15/10/22
It was role play.
posted on 15/10/22
Making up lies about a rape case to try and get some attention on an anonymous Internet forum is just about the most pathetic thing you can do tbh.
Admin, please just get rid of this prīck Culer's account.
posted on 15/10/22
Incels in tears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63272019
posted on 15/10/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Incels in tears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63272019
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I thought this was going to be Jordan Peterson’s interview with Piers Morgan.
posted on 15/10/22
comment by David The King Beckham (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Incels in tears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63272019
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I thought this was going to be Jordan Peterson’s interview with Piers Morgan.
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posted on 15/10/22
Anyone got a link to the tone of voice the charges were read out in? Could have been role play
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