We need Jonathan David to secure the Canadian urban market, Rob.
Robb filters me and carries on talking about me.
Obsessed.
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
We need Jonathan David to secure the Canadian urban market, Rob.
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Would Drake be playing the piano at his unveiling?
Hopefully not. We don’t need the Drake curse.
Canadian urban market is Drake and to some degree, Justine Beiber. Yuck.
comment by Robb - Anti Growth Coallition and Proud (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
I filtered Winston and it’s proven to be a great decision.
Anyway, whilst we have Ronaldo we’re probably not gonna buy a new striker but in theory if we did need a striker in Jan I can’t see why enough money couldn’t secure Toney from Brentford.
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Yeh I would like to see us make a bid for Toney. How much do you think it would take to secure his services? Any news on whether he has a release clause?
Get rid of Ronaldo and Martial and sign Toney and David.
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Where has this idea that our scouts are above recrimination come from?
What makes everyone so content with what they’re doing?
Even the rumoured list of players out forward above is pretty far fetched and lacking in credibility.
There’s very little evidence to back up the notion our scouts have been doing a good job.
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Not sure about the current lot but we know from Langley that he recommended De Jong, De Ligt and Upamecano.
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And is that some sort of evidence that the scouts have actually done a good job, is it?
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Oh, I see you are in full tw@t mode. Tatty bye.
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That was literally the point you were replying to, so if you’re not debating whether they’ve done a good job, what the fack is your point?
Go away and come back when you’re not behaving like a belllend.
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The bloke left in 2016. So at least 6 years ago he recommended those 3 players. He was ignored. De Ligt went for £68m, Upamecano £38m and De Jong £77m. De Jong we have tried to sign this summer just gone. I would say that he was doing a pretty decent job.
They are also 2 of the players on the list that you said was far fetched and lacking credibility. Well, we have it from the horsed mouth that they had been identified.
Now if you want to play your obtuse little tw@t ruotine then crack on. But we have got a youth scout who was with the club for 16 years telling us that he recommended those 3 players to Ed and Co but was repeatedly ignored. In the end he told Ed that he wasn't convinced with the competency of certain people at the club and within a few months he had been sacked.
And I don't think that anyone has said that our scouts are above recrimination. We are just trying to add some context to the discussion.
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 11 hours, 58 minutes ago
Are there any genuine options out there that we could realistically sign in January for the striker position? I'm not too clued up on other leagues and I can't see any PL teams doing business for their forwards mid-season.
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Lautaro Martinez....maybe not realistic, but think he'd be perfect!
Elvis… you had all that time to calm down and you come back on here with the big mouth - you’re a keyboard warrior.
Grow up ffs.
You have unverified reports that one of the scouts recommended three players who haven’t played in the PL, a long time ago.
And you think that proves what exactly?
It certainly doesn’t prove the scouts have been doing a good job, which is what the post you were replying to said.
Maybe try replying without behaving like a child and an actual conversation might break out - I’ve no idea why you chose to fly off the handle tonight.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
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Form? He scored 35 goals in the Championship 2 years ago, 12 goals in the PL last season in a newly promoted team and has 8 goals already this season. That's 2.5 very good seasons.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
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Form? He scored 35 goals in the Championship 2 years ago, 12 goals in the PL last season in a newly promoted team and has 8 goals already this season. That's 2.5 very good seasons.
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Yes, form.
Scoring goals in the Championship isn’t really something I would pay that much attention to, and he had an average season last year.
So I think the clamour to sign him is partially based on this season alone.
I like him, but I think it’s a bit of a rushed judgement from some.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Anti Growth Coallition and Proud (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
I filtered Winston and it’s proven to be a great decision.
Anyway, whilst we have Ronaldo we’re probably not gonna buy a new striker but in theory if we did need a striker in Jan I can’t see why enough money couldn’t secure Toney from Brentford.
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Yeh I would like to see us make a bid for Toney. How much do you think it would take to secure his services? Any news on whether he has a release clause?
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Imo £60-70 million
Some of us wanted him in the summer.
Brentford to sell their best striker, with 2.5 years of his contract left and in January, for £60 mil?
What?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 seconds ago
Elvis… you had all that time to calm down and you come back on here with the big mouth - you’re a keyboard warrior.
Grow up ffs.
You have unverified reports that one of the scouts recommended three players who haven’t played in the PL, a long time ago.
And you think that proves what exactly?
It certainly doesn’t prove the scouts have been doing a good job, which is what the post you were replying to said.
Maybe try replying without behaving like a child and an actual conversation might break out - I’ve no idea why you chose to fly off the handle tonight.
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Shut up you silly little boy. You have asked for evidence, been given it, then ignored it because it doesn't suit your argument.
And I will repeat - no-one has said that the scouts have been doing a great/good job. Certainly not as a collective. We have just been trying to add some context to the discussion but putting across that idea that even if they have been doing a good job, it doesn't mean that their hard work will be acted upon by those higher up. Given how poorly the club has been run in the last decade or so, I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that Ed et al ignored Langley (and other scout's) reports and recommendations. Pretty sure we have had at least one other scout moaning about how he was also ignored.
Elvis, you’re the one behaving like a child.
I think you need to have a read back to see what you’re actually debating… you don’t appear to have a clue what I’ve said.
I don’t think there’s any evidence of the scouts having done a good job and your three names from however many years ago - unverified and not playing in the PL - are absolutely not evidence of having done a good job.
On one hand you say you’re not arguing they’ve done a good job and then on the other you’re claiming to have provided evidence of them going a good job.
Which is it?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
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Form? He scored 35 goals in the Championship 2 years ago, 12 goals in the PL last season in a newly promoted team and has 8 goals already this season. That's 2.5 very good seasons.
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Yes, form.
Scoring goals in the Championship isn’t really something I would pay that much attention to, and he had an average season last year.
So I think the clamour to sign him is partially based on this season alone.
I like him, but I think it’s a bit of a rushed judgement from some.
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12 goals in the PL for a newly promoted team is pretty solid for me. And he has improved again this season. If you look at the lad, he has made a step up/improvement every season for the last 5 seasons. He is on an upward trajectory and there is no reason to suspect that is going to stop now.
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Some of us wanted him in the summer.
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I did too - but my first choice was Mitro. Either imo would be a wise buy
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
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Form? He scored 35 goals in the Championship 2 years ago, 12 goals in the PL last season in a newly promoted team and has 8 goals already this season. That's 2.5 very good seasons.
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Yes, form.
Scoring goals in the Championship isn’t really something I would pay that much attention to, and he had an average season last year.
So I think the clamour to sign him is partially based on this season alone.
I like him, but I think it’s a bit of a rushed judgement from some.
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12 goals in the PL for a newly promoted team is pretty solid for me. And he has improved again this season. If you look at the lad, he has made a step up/improvement every season for the last 5 seasons. He is on an upward trajectory and there is no reason to suspect that is going to stop now.
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Didn’t say there was.
I just said I think some are basing it on this season and it’s quite a United thing to do, to throw money at it - he would cost a huge sum and we need to be as sure as possible.
Otherwise we’ll end up with another dud we can’t shift.
Would love to see him play live.
Four people on this thread know Winston is being a diiiiiickhead.
Winston, have you never, ever considered that it is you that is the problem?
Victor Osimhen would be the guy I'd want
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
Elvis, you’re the one behaving like a child.
I think you need to have a read back to see what you’re actually debating… you don’t appear to have a clue what I’ve said.
I don’t think there’s any evidence of the scouts having done a good job and your three names from however many years ago - unverified and not playing in the PL - are absolutely not evidence of having done a good job.
On one hand you say you’re not arguing they’ve done a good job and then on the other you’re claiming to have provided evidence of them going a good job.
Which is it?
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No, I have provided evidence that one scout was doing a good job in identifying those players. As I said, trying to add some meat to the bones of the discussion. There is some evidence there that good players have been identified in the past and that recommendations have been ignored.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
Elvis, you’re the one behaving like a child.
I think you need to have a read back to see what you’re actually debating… you don’t appear to have a clue what I’ve said.
I don’t think there’s any evidence of the scouts having done a good job and your three names from however many years ago - unverified and not playing in the PL - are absolutely not evidence of having done a good job.
On one hand you say you’re not arguing they’ve done a good job and then on the other you’re claiming to have provided evidence of them going a good job.
Which is it?
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No, I have provided evidence that one scout was doing a good job in identifying those players. As I said, trying to add some meat to the bones of the discussion. There is some evidence there that good players have been identified in the past and that recommendations have been ignored.
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I don’t think that’s evidence of that at all!
And even if it were - how long ago are we talking?
Is that relevant in a discussion about needing a striker in 2023?
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posted on 1/11/22
We need Jonathan David to secure the Canadian urban market, Rob.
posted on 1/11/22
Robb filters me and carries on talking about me.
Obsessed.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
We need Jonathan David to secure the Canadian urban market, Rob.
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Would Drake be playing the piano at his unveiling?
posted on 1/11/22
Hopefully not. We don’t need the Drake curse.
posted on 1/11/22
Canadian urban market is Drake and to some degree, Justine Beiber. Yuck.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Robb - Anti Growth Coallition and Proud (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
I filtered Winston and it’s proven to be a great decision.
Anyway, whilst we have Ronaldo we’re probably not gonna buy a new striker but in theory if we did need a striker in Jan I can’t see why enough money couldn’t secure Toney from Brentford.
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Yeh I would like to see us make a bid for Toney. How much do you think it would take to secure his services? Any news on whether he has a release clause?
posted on 1/11/22
Get rid of Ronaldo and Martial and sign Toney and David.
posted on 1/11/22
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Where has this idea that our scouts are above recrimination come from?
What makes everyone so content with what they’re doing?
Even the rumoured list of players out forward above is pretty far fetched and lacking in credibility.
There’s very little evidence to back up the notion our scouts have been doing a good job.
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Not sure about the current lot but we know from Langley that he recommended De Jong, De Ligt and Upamecano.
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And is that some sort of evidence that the scouts have actually done a good job, is it?
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Oh, I see you are in full tw@t mode. Tatty bye.
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That was literally the point you were replying to, so if you’re not debating whether they’ve done a good job, what the fack is your point?
Go away and come back when you’re not behaving like a belllend.
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The bloke left in 2016. So at least 6 years ago he recommended those 3 players. He was ignored. De Ligt went for £68m, Upamecano £38m and De Jong £77m. De Jong we have tried to sign this summer just gone. I would say that he was doing a pretty decent job.
They are also 2 of the players on the list that you said was far fetched and lacking credibility. Well, we have it from the horsed mouth that they had been identified.
Now if you want to play your obtuse little tw@t ruotine then crack on. But we have got a youth scout who was with the club for 16 years telling us that he recommended those 3 players to Ed and Co but was repeatedly ignored. In the end he told Ed that he wasn't convinced with the competency of certain people at the club and within a few months he had been sacked.
And I don't think that anyone has said that our scouts are above recrimination. We are just trying to add some context to the discussion.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 11 hours, 58 minutes ago
Are there any genuine options out there that we could realistically sign in January for the striker position? I'm not too clued up on other leagues and I can't see any PL teams doing business for their forwards mid-season.
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Lautaro Martinez....maybe not realistic, but think he'd be perfect!
posted on 1/11/22
Elvis… you had all that time to calm down and you come back on here with the big mouth - you’re a keyboard warrior.
Grow up ffs.
You have unverified reports that one of the scouts recommended three players who haven’t played in the PL, a long time ago.
And you think that proves what exactly?
It certainly doesn’t prove the scouts have been doing a good job, which is what the post you were replying to said.
Maybe try replying without behaving like a child and an actual conversation might break out - I’ve no idea why you chose to fly off the handle tonight.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
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Form? He scored 35 goals in the Championship 2 years ago, 12 goals in the PL last season in a newly promoted team and has 8 goals already this season. That's 2.5 very good seasons.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
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Form? He scored 35 goals in the Championship 2 years ago, 12 goals in the PL last season in a newly promoted team and has 8 goals already this season. That's 2.5 very good seasons.
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Yes, form.
Scoring goals in the Championship isn’t really something I would pay that much attention to, and he had an average season last year.
So I think the clamour to sign him is partially based on this season alone.
I like him, but I think it’s a bit of a rushed judgement from some.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Anti Growth Coallition and Proud (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
I filtered Winston and it’s proven to be a great decision.
Anyway, whilst we have Ronaldo we’re probably not gonna buy a new striker but in theory if we did need a striker in Jan I can’t see why enough money couldn’t secure Toney from Brentford.
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Yeh I would like to see us make a bid for Toney. How much do you think it would take to secure his services? Any news on whether he has a release clause?
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Imo £60-70 million
posted on 1/11/22
Some of us wanted him in the summer.
posted on 1/11/22
Brentford to sell their best striker, with 2.5 years of his contract left and in January, for £60 mil?
What?
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 29 seconds ago
Elvis… you had all that time to calm down and you come back on here with the big mouth - you’re a keyboard warrior.
Grow up ffs.
You have unverified reports that one of the scouts recommended three players who haven’t played in the PL, a long time ago.
And you think that proves what exactly?
It certainly doesn’t prove the scouts have been doing a good job, which is what the post you were replying to said.
Maybe try replying without behaving like a child and an actual conversation might break out - I’ve no idea why you chose to fly off the handle tonight.
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Shut up you silly little boy. You have asked for evidence, been given it, then ignored it because it doesn't suit your argument.
And I will repeat - no-one has said that the scouts have been doing a great/good job. Certainly not as a collective. We have just been trying to add some context to the discussion but putting across that idea that even if they have been doing a good job, it doesn't mean that their hard work will be acted upon by those higher up. Given how poorly the club has been run in the last decade or so, I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that Ed et al ignored Langley (and other scout's) reports and recommendations. Pretty sure we have had at least one other scout moaning about how he was also ignored.
posted on 1/11/22
Elvis, you’re the one behaving like a child.
I think you need to have a read back to see what you’re actually debating… you don’t appear to have a clue what I’ve said.
I don’t think there’s any evidence of the scouts having done a good job and your three names from however many years ago - unverified and not playing in the PL - are absolutely not evidence of having done a good job.
On one hand you say you’re not arguing they’ve done a good job and then on the other you’re claiming to have provided evidence of them going a good job.
Which is it?
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
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Form? He scored 35 goals in the Championship 2 years ago, 12 goals in the PL last season in a newly promoted team and has 8 goals already this season. That's 2.5 very good seasons.
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Yes, form.
Scoring goals in the Championship isn’t really something I would pay that much attention to, and he had an average season last year.
So I think the clamour to sign him is partially based on this season alone.
I like him, but I think it’s a bit of a rushed judgement from some.
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12 goals in the PL for a newly promoted team is pretty solid for me. And he has improved again this season. If you look at the lad, he has made a step up/improvement every season for the last 5 seasons. He is on an upward trajectory and there is no reason to suspect that is going to stop now.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Some of us wanted him in the summer.
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I did too - but my first choice was Mitro. Either imo would be a wise buy
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
No release clause, but still on terms from a contract he signed a while ago.
They’re trying to get him to sign a new one now, so up to him.
It does feel very United though. A bit rushed because of form.
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Form? He scored 35 goals in the Championship 2 years ago, 12 goals in the PL last season in a newly promoted team and has 8 goals already this season. That's 2.5 very good seasons.
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Yes, form.
Scoring goals in the Championship isn’t really something I would pay that much attention to, and he had an average season last year.
So I think the clamour to sign him is partially based on this season alone.
I like him, but I think it’s a bit of a rushed judgement from some.
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12 goals in the PL for a newly promoted team is pretty solid for me. And he has improved again this season. If you look at the lad, he has made a step up/improvement every season for the last 5 seasons. He is on an upward trajectory and there is no reason to suspect that is going to stop now.
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Didn’t say there was.
I just said I think some are basing it on this season and it’s quite a United thing to do, to throw money at it - he would cost a huge sum and we need to be as sure as possible.
Otherwise we’ll end up with another dud we can’t shift.
Would love to see him play live.
posted on 1/11/22
Four people on this thread know Winston is being a diiiiiickhead.
Winston, have you never, ever considered that it is you that is the problem?
posted on 1/11/22
Victor Osimhen would be the guy I'd want
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
Elvis, you’re the one behaving like a child.
I think you need to have a read back to see what you’re actually debating… you don’t appear to have a clue what I’ve said.
I don’t think there’s any evidence of the scouts having done a good job and your three names from however many years ago - unverified and not playing in the PL - are absolutely not evidence of having done a good job.
On one hand you say you’re not arguing they’ve done a good job and then on the other you’re claiming to have provided evidence of them going a good job.
Which is it?
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No, I have provided evidence that one scout was doing a good job in identifying those players. As I said, trying to add some meat to the bones of the discussion. There is some evidence there that good players have been identified in the past and that recommendations have been ignored.
posted on 1/11/22
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
Elvis, you’re the one behaving like a child.
I think you need to have a read back to see what you’re actually debating… you don’t appear to have a clue what I’ve said.
I don’t think there’s any evidence of the scouts having done a good job and your three names from however many years ago - unverified and not playing in the PL - are absolutely not evidence of having done a good job.
On one hand you say you’re not arguing they’ve done a good job and then on the other you’re claiming to have provided evidence of them going a good job.
Which is it?
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No, I have provided evidence that one scout was doing a good job in identifying those players. As I said, trying to add some meat to the bones of the discussion. There is some evidence there that good players have been identified in the past and that recommendations have been ignored.
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I don’t think that’s evidence of that at all!
And even if it were - how long ago are we talking?
Is that relevant in a discussion about needing a striker in 2023?
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