comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Yorkshire Red (U22022)
posted 1 minute ago
I'd like to see you gay boys come to Qatar and try your disgusting practices. You'll be sent straight to jail.
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Hello. World's first gay football fan here. Which part do you find more disgusting? Me being bummed or me bumming another guy? I could do less of one and more of the other depending on which you determine more disgusting? Come to think of it, it can be pretty disgusting. Like poo and stuff. But needs must.
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Being bummed, obviously. Otherwise law enforcement officers wouldn't bum gayists to teach them a lesson; they'd make the gay shove his willy in their bum.

A straight copper wouldn't even be able to get an erection to begin with, or would lose it immediately without achieving consummation if it were really a gay thing to do.



As an afterthought, I would be interested to know if these people condemning gayism also condemn bumming a woman, and let me know if this is also part of the modern school curriculum.

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 31 seconds ago
I don't see anyone suppressing liberal views.

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There was a post somewhere on here today where a guy was basically telling people to stop voicing opposition to homophobia in Qatar, to shut up and watch the football. I'll try and find it.

Oh, it's this exact post
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He's not an authority to cancel anyone, is he?
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Ah, you are just talking about authority.

Have you not seen climate protesters being sent to prison and even a journalist dragged away for reporting on them? Or people being arrested for holding up anti-monarchist signs a couple of ago? Let alone the alleged shadow-banning on Twitter...

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Yorkshire Red (U22022)
posted 1 minute ago
I'd like to see you gay boys come to Qatar and try your disgusting practices. You'll be sent straight to jail.
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Hello. World's first gay football fan here. Which part do you find more disgusting? Me being bummed or me bumming another guy? I could do less of one and more of the other depending on which you determine more disgusting? Come to think of it, it can be pretty disgusting. Like poo and stuff. But needs must.
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Being bummed, obviously. Otherwise law enforcement officers wouldn't bum gayists to teach them a lesson; they'd make the gay shove his willy in their bum.

A straight copper wouldn't even be able to get an erection to begin with, or would lose it immediately without achieving consummation if it were really a gay thing to do.



As an afterthought, I would be interested to know if these people condemning gayism also condemn bumming a woman, and let me know if this is also part of the modern school curriculum.
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what about a man identifying as a woman

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
It does get confusing when all the bigots unite though!
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Your group is the one that gets upset over different opinions, so look in the mirror.
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Yes, I just made that very clear above... I'm tired of pretending that your views are just different to opinions
to mine... Your views are disgusting and the quicker they are consigned to history, the better (assuming you share the same views as the OP).
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He usually defends people with these kind of views. Apparently the ‘woke brigade’ are the real problem. Not the pieces of shiiiiit like him, Nohlman and the OP.
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Criticising illiberal views = censorship / cancellation.

Disseminating misinformation or proposing subjugation of minority groups = the marketplace of ideas.

It's a political movement that has absolutely no interest in free speech, only suppressing liberal discourse.
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Have you turned into Barry? You've got your comment upside down.
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There are so many examples of contemporary right-wing populism suppressing / controlling speech in the name of protecting freedom of speech.

- UK government attempting to police university lecturers and teachers in case of left-wing bias
- UK government stuffing the BBC board / oversight functions with partisan Tories.
- UK government repeatedly putting forward the rabidly anti-liberal Paul Dacre to lead OFCOM, which regulates the media.
- UK government enacting laws that drastically restrict the right to legally protest, with the subjectively defined potential to cause a nuisance sufficient to justify arrest. This week journalists filming a protest were arrested and detained, despite showing their press credentials.
- Removing books that promote tolerance from educational syllabus and libraries in the USA - and actual book burning.

These are instances of mainstream right-wing politics in power exercising real-world curbs on freedom of speech. What are the counter examples from the liberal-left?

- Hate speech laws. If you feel that the public space should be a free for all to discriminate against and urge arm to certain groups, please feel free to defend that argument.
- The 'cancellation' narrative. Generally we have a very polarised and nasty online culture, and I'm not a fan of herd pile-ons. But let's be honest that every part of the political spectrum engages in the nastiness, bullying, calls for sacking, etc. And everyone is guilty of selective outrage when one of their allies has been attacked, while ignoring it when someone they disagree with is. Moreover, I've seen lots of examples of people being justifiably critiqued, and then using the 'cancellation' narrative to deflect from the original. Sometimes these martyrs do extensive rounds in national print and TV media talking about their cancellation.

Before I could find any guys to bum, I would tie my pet rabbit to my ex girlfriend's face so that it looked like a beard and then bum her. All bums feel the same whether it's a guy or girl. The issue is when you want to get bummed yourself. Luckily we had a pet snake as well so managed to use that and tie it around her waist but had to make sure she kept her head up whilst bumming me or the snake would try and eat the rabbit each time its head came back out of my bum.

Now if those are disgusting practices then call me disgusting but to us in the west, that's just normal.

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red: Jadon and the Argonauts (U4892)
posted 31 seconds ago
I don't see anyone suppressing liberal views.

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There was a post somewhere on here today where a guy was basically telling people to stop voicing opposition to homophobia in Qatar, to shut up and watch the football. I'll try and find it.

Oh, it's this exact post
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He's not an authority to cancel anyone, is he?
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What are your views on hate speech?

comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
Actually dunno why I’m bothering to reply to peks.
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Russbots obviously in full swing on this one.

comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago

I agree with this.

However, if a country's rules and laws are backwards, intolerant and bigoted, then the showpiece event for the most popular sport in the world should not be held in such a place.
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Backwards, intolerant, bigoted. But according to whose standards?
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"But according to whose standards?"

The victims?

How about completely objective, neuroscientifically supported, universal ethical first principles?

Or in simple terms; any action that unnecessarily cases harm to others, or infringes upon the rights of others, is by default wrong. Given that "being harmed" requires consciousness (meaning the ability to feel; mentally, emotionally, physically), and all human & non-human animals are, to the best evidence we have, conscious, they must therefore have the same basic fundamental rights.

So yes, we do have a set of standards that we can measure actions against, ethically. Repressing gay rights is wrong for the same reasons slaughterhouses, racism, child abuse or bombings are wrong.

Quick read and the usual idiots are at it. So high up their own backside, it is bewildering how the Western World think they can dictate and tell others what to do.

Qatar won the bid. Move on.

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Before I could find any guys to bum, I would tie my pet rabbit to my ex girlfriend's face so that it looked like a beard and then bum her. All bums feel the same whether it's a guy or girl. The issue is when you want to get bummed yourself. Luckily we had a pet snake as well so managed to use that and tie it around her waist but had to make sure she kept her head up whilst bumming me or the snake would try and eat the rabbit each time its head came back out of my bum.

Now if those are disgusting practices then call me disgusting but to us in the west, that's just normal.
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Surprised you haven't been cancelled by the RSPCA

comment by Yorkshire Red (U22022)
posted 27 minutes ago
I'd like to see you gay boys come to Qatar and try your disgusting practices. You'll be sent straight to jail.
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You do realise that being tolerant of homosexuals doesn't mean that we are homosexuals?

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
Quick read and the usual idiots are at it. So high up their own backside, it is bewildering how the Western World think they can dictate and tell others what to do.

Qatar won the bid. Move on.
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Marseille won the league. move on.

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Before I could find any guys to bum, I would tie my pet rabbit to my ex girlfriend's face so that it looked like a beard and then bum her. All bums feel the same whether it's a guy or girl. The issue is when you want to get bummed yourself. Luckily we had a pet snake as well so managed to use that and tie it around her waist but had to make sure she kept her head up whilst bumming me or the snake would try and eat the rabbit each time its head came back out of my bum.

Now if those are disgusting practices then call me disgusting but to us in the west, that's just normal.
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comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quick read and the usual idiots are at it. So high up their own backside, it is bewildering how the Western World think they can dictate and tell others what to do.

Qatar won the bid. Move on.
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How about if it was illegal not to be bummed by men in Qatar? As you enter the country, you don't show your passport, you get bummed. Get to the hotel, check in by being bummed. Go out for a meal, not before being bummed at the entrance you don't. Would you be ok with that?

Why are so many straight men getting themselves worked up thinking about what gay men do?

Also how much working up do you need before arrival?

I like the way this has descended in to a bum fest

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 3 minutes ago
Quick read and the usual idiots are at it. So high up their own backside, it is bewildering how the Western World think they can dictate and tell others what to do.

Qatar won the bid. Move on.
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How about if it was illegal not to be bummed by men in Qatar? As you enter the country, you don't show your passport, you get bummed. Get to the hotel, check in by being bummed. Go out for a meal, not before being bummed at the entrance you don't. Would you be ok with that?
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When in Rome.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
Quick read and the usual idiots are at it.
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Correct, and I am sure they're ready to welcome you with open arms (in a non homo way, of course)

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Quick read and the usual idiots are at it. So high up their own backside, it is bewildering how the Western World think they can dictate and tell others what to do.

Qatar won the bid. Move on.
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Come on. The guy wrote an angry thread telling people what they shouldn't be saying, tried to back it up with one of the weirdest rants ever to grace these boards and is getting some stick for it - much of it humorous.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
Quick read and the usual idiots are at it. So high up their own backside, it is bewildering how the Western World think they can dictate and tell others what to do.

Qatar won the bid. Move on.
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You're better than this Scholay. It's not about the Western world dictating. It's about FIFA taking the World Cup somewhere where their own values aren't met.

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - It's Beekers! (U2958)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
Quick read and the usual idiots are at it.
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Correct, and I am sure they're ready to welcome you with open arms (in a non homo way, of course)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Yorkshire Red (U22022)
posted 27 minutes ago
I'd like to see you gay boys come to Qatar and try your disgusting practices. You'll be sent straight to jail.
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You do realise that being tolerant of homosexuals doesn't mean that we are homosexuals?
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It’s a strange hill to die on given Qatari police regularly rape homosexuals.

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Before I could find any guys to bum, I would tie my pet rabbit to my ex girlfriend's face so that it looked like a beard and then bum her. All bums feel the same whether it's a guy or girl. The issue is when you want to get bummed yourself. Luckily we had a pet snake as well so managed to use that and tie it around her waist but had to make sure she kept her head up whilst bumming me or the snake would try and eat the rabbit each time its head came back out of my bum.

Now if those are disgusting practices then call me disgusting but to us in the west, that's just normal.
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 6 minutes ago
Quick read and the usual idiots are at it. So high up their own backside, it is bewildering how the Western World think they can dictate and tell others what to do.

Qatar won the bid. Move on.
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You're better than this Scholay. It's not about the Western world dictating. It's about FIFA taking the World Cup somewhere where their own values aren't met.
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And bumming isn’t acceptable

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
Before I could find any guys to bum, I would tie my pet rabbit to my ex girlfriend's face so that it looked like a beard and then bum her. All bums feel the same whether it's a guy or girl. The issue is when you want to get bummed yourself. Luckily we had a pet snake as well so managed to use that and tie it around her waist but had to make sure she kept her head up whilst bumming me or the snake would try and eat the rabbit each time its head came back out of my bum.

Now if those are disgusting practices then call me disgusting but to us in the west, that's just normal.
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This was really good