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posted on 9/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)

Can you give some examples of those things you mentioned?

As far as social media goes, the liberal activists are the most vocal and they also have their own lobbying groups , and seem to have nothing else to do.
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Examples of the work on systemic media bias in the UK, or of so-called 'left' media (in reality, 'left' on a narrow *corporate* media spectrum) punching... left?

But I'm curious why you would ask for such examples? You seem to have some pretty strong views on media, yet how can that be the case if you're aren't familiar with this stuff?

And again on social media... How are you measuring the claim that "liberal activists are the most vocal"? And surely any voice being more vocal than another is only problematic if those voices happen to be evidence defying, promoting causes that harm others or are just plain wrong, no? Do right-wing voices not have "lobby groups"? You seem to be assigning a uniqueness to 'left' or 'liberal' views & activism that you can't actually evidence.
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I think this will be a useful read on Twitter:

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/

I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe the following:

Social media users are more likely to be younger
Younger people are more likely to be left-leaning/progressive
Trending etc the scenario grows.



I think there might be right wing alternative platforms but I don’t think any of them are particularly big ( I could be wrong I don’t know them).
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There is a social media platform made for right-wing older users. It's called Facebook.

It may be that Twitter skews younger and therefore slightly more liberal. My experience (which like everyone's is subjective) is there's a lot of both sides shouting whenever someone prominent talks about something controversial.

posted on 9/11/22

Any chance we could get back to the bumming?

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)

Can you give some examples of those things you mentioned?

As far as social media goes, the liberal activists are the most vocal and they also have their own lobbying groups , and seem to have nothing else to do.
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Examples of the work on systemic media bias in the UK, or of so-called 'left' media (in reality, 'left' on a narrow *corporate* media spectrum) punching... left?

But I'm curious why you would ask for such examples? You seem to have some pretty strong views on media, yet how can that be the case if you're aren't familiar with this stuff?

And again on social media... How are you measuring the claim that "liberal activists are the most vocal"? And surely any voice being more vocal than another is only problematic if those voices happen to be evidence defying, promoting causes that harm others or are just plain wrong, no? Do right-wing voices not have "lobby groups"? You seem to be assigning a uniqueness to 'left' or 'liberal' views & activism that you can't actually evidence.
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I think this will be a useful read on Twitter:

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/

I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe the following:

Social media users are more likely to be younger
Younger people are more likely to be left-leaning/progressive
Trending etc the scenario grows.



I think there might be right wing alternative platforms but I don’t think any of them are particularly big ( I could be wrong I don’t know them).
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I'm certainly not doubting that, demographically speaking, younger people who are more active on SM platforms are more likely to be liberal/progressive in their positions, nor that that may be reflected in trending and so on.

But N2 is proposing the phenomena as if this is unique to more liberal voices, and that this equates to "power". It seems to me that he's really just upset at seeing things he doesn't agree with and places a greater sense of prevalence and significance on them because of that.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 second ago
Any chance we could get back to the bumming?
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I'm just about to nip down to the local aquatics center to see if they have any snakes in stock.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 50 minutes ago
Scholay it’s imperative to stray strong in your beliefs and convictions. To never be swayed by the extremist liberals and their agenda.
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You're so strong in your 'beliefs' that you won't even explain what they are or give examples of issues you profess to have identified.

And do you not agree that beliefs about X, Y & Z should be dictated by *quality of evidence*?

Do you consider support for gay rights to be an "extremist" position? If so, why?
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Convictions We Win...

With each passing moment of silence from you here, a little bit of Andrew Tate's soul leaves his body.

Care to demonstrate your convictions for once and actually answer a question about something you've contributed to a thread?

posted on 9/11/22

‘Yorkshire Red’ - what a ©️unt.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)

Can you give some examples of those things you mentioned?

As far as social media goes, the liberal activists are the most vocal and they also have their own lobbying groups , and seem to have nothing else to do.
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Examples of the work on systemic media bias in the UK, or of so-called 'left' media (in reality, 'left' on a narrow *corporate* media spectrum) punching... left?

But I'm curious why you would ask for such examples? You seem to have some pretty strong views on media, yet how can that be the case if you're aren't familiar with this stuff?

And again on social media... How are you measuring the claim that "liberal activists are the most vocal"? And surely any voice being more vocal than another is only problematic if those voices happen to be evidence defying, promoting causes that harm others or are just plain wrong, no? Do right-wing voices not have "lobby groups"? You seem to be assigning a uniqueness to 'left' or 'liberal' views & activism that you can't actually evidence.
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I think this will be a useful read on Twitter:

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/

I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe the following:

Social media users are more likely to be younger
Younger people are more likely to be left-leaning/progressive
Trending etc the scenario grows.



I think there might be right wing alternative platforms but I don’t think any of them are particularly big ( I could be wrong I don’t know them).
----------------------------------------------------------------------

There is a social media platform made for right-wing older users. It's called Facebook.

It may be that Twitter skews younger and therefore slightly more liberal. My experience (which like everyone's is subjective) is there's a lot of both sides shouting whenever someone prominent talks about something controversial.
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Sure, everyone shouts.

Didn’t know FB was more for right wing users, glad I deleted it in 2007.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)

Can you give some examples of those things you mentioned?

As far as social media goes, the liberal activists are the most vocal and they also have their own lobbying groups , and seem to have nothing else to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Examples of the work on systemic media bias in the UK, or of so-called 'left' media (in reality, 'left' on a narrow *corporate* media spectrum) punching... left?

But I'm curious why you would ask for such examples? You seem to have some pretty strong views on media, yet how can that be the case if you're aren't familiar with this stuff?

And again on social media... How are you measuring the claim that "liberal activists are the most vocal"? And surely any voice being more vocal than another is only problematic if those voices happen to be evidence defying, promoting causes that harm others or are just plain wrong, no? Do right-wing voices not have "lobby groups"? You seem to be assigning a uniqueness to 'left' or 'liberal' views & activism that you can't actually evidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this will be a useful read on Twitter:

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/

I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe the following:

Social media users are more likely to be younger
Younger people are more likely to be left-leaning/progressive
Trending etc the scenario grows.



I think there might be right wing alternative platforms but I don’t think any of them are particularly big ( I could be wrong I don’t know them).
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm certainly not doubting that, demographically speaking, younger people who are more active on SM platforms are more likely to be liberal/progressive in their positions, nor that that may be reflected in trending and so on.

But N2 is proposing the phenomena as if this is unique to more liberal voices, and that this equates to "power". It seems to me that he's really just upset at seeing things he doesn't agree with and places a greater sense of prevalence and significance on them because of that.
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I think it’s fair to say that we have recently seen a lot of changes in major corporations in terms of their policies that have derived from voices on the left.

I don’t see Coca-Cola teaching people about conservative viewpoints and bringing them into policy.

posted on 9/11/22

Hi Sheena hows little Alfie settling in?

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Hi Sheena hows little Alfie settling in?
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Mum, that is your status. You have to post it on Sheena's page.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Stewart Greacen (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
Hi Sheena hows little Alfie settling in?
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Mum, that is your status. You have to post it on Sheena's page.
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Hi darling how's work been treating you?

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)

Can you give some examples of those things you mentioned?

As far as social media goes, the liberal activists are the most vocal and they also have their own lobbying groups , and seem to have nothing else to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Examples of the work on systemic media bias in the UK, or of so-called 'left' media (in reality, 'left' on a narrow *corporate* media spectrum) punching... left?

But I'm curious why you would ask for such examples? You seem to have some pretty strong views on media, yet how can that be the case if you're aren't familiar with this stuff?

And again on social media... How are you measuring the claim that "liberal activists are the most vocal"? And surely any voice being more vocal than another is only problematic if those voices happen to be evidence defying, promoting causes that harm others or are just plain wrong, no? Do right-wing voices not have "lobby groups"? You seem to be assigning a uniqueness to 'left' or 'liberal' views & activism that you can't actually evidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this will be a useful read on Twitter:

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/

I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe the following:

Social media users are more likely to be younger
Younger people are more likely to be left-leaning/progressive
Trending etc the scenario grows.



I think there might be right wing alternative platforms but I don’t think any of them are particularly big ( I could be wrong I don’t know them).
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm certainly not doubting that, demographically speaking, younger people who are more active on SM platforms are more likely to be liberal/progressive in their positions, nor that that may be reflected in trending and so on.

But N2 is proposing the phenomena as if this is unique to more liberal voices, and that this equates to "power". It seems to me that he's really just upset at seeing things he doesn't agree with and places a greater sense of prevalence and significance on them because of that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it’s fair to say that we have recently seen a lot of changes in major corporations in terms of their policies that have derived from voices on the left.

I don’t see Coca-Cola teaching people about conservative viewpoints and bringing them into policy.
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Maybe if Conservative viewpoints were as profitable when incorporated into advertising they would be though.

posted on 9/11/22

90% of people cannot solve this puzzle 1+4 x 7-1=

Hi Sheena hows little Alfie settling in?

posted on 9/11/22

Sorry just filling people in on what has been going on on facebook for the past 10 years. Missing out.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 second ago
Any chance we could get back to the bumming?
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I'm just about to nip down to the local aquatics center to see if they have any snakes in stock.
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I've got a ferret in my trousers. English culture.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Graham Villas-Potter (U6489)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)

Can you give some examples of those things you mentioned?

As far as social media goes, the liberal activists are the most vocal and they also have their own lobbying groups , and seem to have nothing else to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Examples of the work on systemic media bias in the UK, or of so-called 'left' media (in reality, 'left' on a narrow *corporate* media spectrum) punching... left?

But I'm curious why you would ask for such examples? You seem to have some pretty strong views on media, yet how can that be the case if you're aren't familiar with this stuff?

And again on social media... How are you measuring the claim that "liberal activists are the most vocal"? And surely any voice being more vocal than another is only problematic if those voices happen to be evidence defying, promoting causes that harm others or are just plain wrong, no? Do right-wing voices not have "lobby groups"? You seem to be assigning a uniqueness to 'left' or 'liberal' views & activism that you can't actually evidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this will be a useful read on Twitter:

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/

I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe the following:

Social media users are more likely to be younger
Younger people are more likely to be left-leaning/progressive
Trending etc the scenario grows.



I think there might be right wing alternative platforms but I don’t think any of them are particularly big ( I could be wrong I don’t know them).
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm certainly not doubting that, demographically speaking, younger people who are more active on SM platforms are more likely to be liberal/progressive in their positions, nor that that may be reflected in trending and so on.

But N2 is proposing the phenomena as if this is unique to more liberal voices, and that this equates to "power". It seems to me that he's really just upset at seeing things he doesn't agree with and places a greater sense of prevalence and significance on them because of that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it’s fair to say that we have recently seen a lot of changes in major corporations in terms of their policies that have derived from voices on the left.

I don’t see Coca-Cola teaching people about conservative viewpoints and bringing them into policy.
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Maybe if Conservative viewpoints were as profitable when incorporated into advertising they would be though.
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Agreed and I think companies like Coca-Cola are backtracking somewhat in following these trends as they’re not as profitable. Which does actually help make the point I think N2 is making (but hard to demonstrate) that the social justice voices are very, very loud and can influence politics & corporate decision-making yet conservative voices aren’t as loud but their voice is made as a consumer.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by N2 (U22280)

Can you give some examples of those things you mentioned?

As far as social media goes, the liberal activists are the most vocal and they also have their own lobbying groups , and seem to have nothing else to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Examples of the work on systemic media bias in the UK, or of so-called 'left' media (in reality, 'left' on a narrow *corporate* media spectrum) punching... left?

But I'm curious why you would ask for such examples? You seem to have some pretty strong views on media, yet how can that be the case if you're aren't familiar with this stuff?

And again on social media... How are you measuring the claim that "liberal activists are the most vocal"? And surely any voice being more vocal than another is only problematic if those voices happen to be evidence defying, promoting causes that harm others or are just plain wrong, no? Do right-wing voices not have "lobby groups"? You seem to be assigning a uniqueness to 'left' or 'liberal' views & activism that you can't actually evidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this will be a useful read on Twitter:

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/

I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe the following:

Social media users are more likely to be younger
Younger people are more likely to be left-leaning/progressive
Trending etc the scenario grows.



I think there might be right wing alternative platforms but I don’t think any of them are particularly big ( I could be wrong I don’t know them).
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm certainly not doubting that, demographically speaking, younger people who are more active on SM platforms are more likely to be liberal/progressive in their positions, nor that that may be reflected in trending and so on.

But N2 is proposing the phenomena as if this is unique to more liberal voices, and that this equates to "power". It seems to me that he's really just upset at seeing things he doesn't agree with and places a greater sense of prevalence and significance on them because of that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it’s fair to say that we have recently seen a lot of changes in major corporations in terms of their policies that have derived from voices on the left.

I don’t see Coca-Cola teaching people about conservative viewpoints and bringing them into policy.
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They don't really have to. Owning politicians on both sides is more efficient.

posted on 9/11/22

Sat Nav, Facebook and Twitter are neither 'for' the left or right. They just want to make as much money as possible. There must be lots of left-wing groups in Facebook. It's just that the age profile of users is older, and so there are more people with the political views prevalent among those demographics.

Personally, I stopped using Facebook because I got tired of the 'U alright hunn?' attention seeking content, and prefer the way Twitter is more of a (albeit vitriolic, dysfunctional) public space.

I think the fact that Facebook is more private means the bubbles have less contact with outside world, so if you're in an echo chamber there you might have less awareness of contrary views. Not that Twitter isn't a polarising force, but my hunch is that the Facebook algorithm is more likely to lead people down extreme/conspiracy rabbit holes.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Yorkshire Red (U22022)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
I'd like to see you gay boys come to Qatar and try your disgusting practices. You'll be sent straight to jail.
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Qatari Police Officer: 'Oi, stop bumming that other man. It's disgusting. Right, I'm arresting you and you're going to prison.

You're going to be lock up with lots of other men. That'll teach you!'

posted on 9/11/22

I’m not sure Twitter having more democrats makes it especially ‘left’ anyway, not if we are looking at it from a global perspective.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am not the one that believes in stories made up hundreds of years ago.
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I can’t wait to see his reply to that.
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You will wait for eternity because I don't answer to stupid.
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What is stupid about his comment.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 seconds ago
Sat Nav, Facebook and Twitter are neither 'for' the left or right. They just want to make as much money as possible. There must be lots of left-wing groups in Facebook. It's just that the age profile of users is older, and so there are more people with the political views prevalent among those demographics.

Personally, I stopped using Facebook because I got tired of the 'U alright hunn?' attention seeking content, and prefer the way Twitter is more of a (albeit vitriolic, dysfunctional) public space.

I think the fact that Facebook is more private means the bubbles have less contact with outside world, so if you're in an echo chamber there you might have less awareness of contrary views. Not that Twitter isn't a polarising force, but my hunch is that the Facebook algorithm is more likely to lead people down extreme/conspiracy rabbit holes.
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They should all be removed from existence, it’s a horrible, truly horrible direction in which we’re heading. Retention of information, attention span, polarising, 280 characters, anonymity. I really don’t care what benefit some people get from social media, I’d get rid of it.

I mean….only fans…..need I say more? Get rid

posted on 9/11/22

Sat Nav I think it does have its positive uses. I find Twitter very useful as a search engine for latest news and comment direct from sources I trust and find useful. I've also seen great engagement between people that wouldn't be possible otherwise. But the overall societal effect does seem pretty sinister. I'm not sure Musk's prescription of removing more of the ground rules and constraints is going to make it any better.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sat Nav, Facebook and Twitter are neither 'for' the left or right. They just want to make as much money as possible. There must be lots of left-wing groups in Facebook. It's just that the age profile of users is older, and so there are more people with the political views prevalent among those demographics.

Personally, I stopped using Facebook because I got tired of the 'U alright hunn?' attention seeking content, and prefer the way Twitter is more of a (albeit vitriolic, dysfunctional) public space.

I think the fact that Facebook is more private means the bubbles have less contact with outside world, so if you're in an echo chamber there you might have less awareness of contrary views. Not that Twitter isn't a polarising force, but my hunch is that the Facebook algorithm is more likely to lead people down extreme/conspiracy rabbit holes.
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Facebook doesn't really show you friend's posts anymore. It just feeds you crap based on what you have previously engaged with, like Instagram does. You do get stuck in an echo chamber but only because of the algorithms showing you the same crap over and over, not your actual friends on Facebook.

posted on 9/11/22

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
Sat Nav, Facebook and Twitter are neither 'for' the left or right. They just want to make as much money as possible. There must be lots of left-wing groups in Facebook. It's just that the age profile of users is older, and so there are more people with the political views prevalent among those demographics.

Personally, I stopped using Facebook because I got tired of the 'U alright hunn?' attention seeking content, and prefer the way Twitter is more of a (albeit vitriolic, dysfunctional) public space.

I think the fact that Facebook is more private means the bubbles have less contact with outside world, so if you're in an echo chamber there you might have less awareness of contrary views. Not that Twitter isn't a polarising force, but my hunch is that the Facebook algorithm is more likely to lead people down extreme/conspiracy rabbit holes.
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Not ‘for’, well perhaps not at conception and inception but they are ‘used by’ and then I think they become ‘for’. Businesses will often focus on the dominant demographic and it likely snowballs from there.

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