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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
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Who is?
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
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Who is?
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quiet day i take it
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
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Who is?
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quiet day i take it
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Yes
Thought there was some mileage here
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
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Who is?
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quiet day i take it
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Yes
Thought there was some mileage here
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right target .... wrong time mate !!
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
Ange has a win record of 52.5%, dyche 35%. That’s 2/3rds the win rate. Or to put it another way; Ange’s win rate is 150% of what Dyche’s is.
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So Ange has a similar percentage to Pedro Caixinha? And a poorer percentage than Gio and Gerrard? must mean a lot then
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Pedro Caixihna - 39.9%. So no. Ange doesn’t have a similar percentage to Pedro.
If you guys want Gerrard or Gio back have at it
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but we can use your logic of just looking at win percentages? unless that stat means fook all?
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Strawman alert. I did not say it was my logic of just looking at win percentages now did I? Silly sausage.
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
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comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
Ange has a win record of 52.5%, dyche 35%. That’s 2/3rds the win rate. Or to put it another way; Ange’s win rate is 150% of what Dyche’s is.
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So Ange has a similar percentage to Pedro Caixinha? And a poorer percentage than Gio and Gerrard? must mean a lot then
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Pedro Caixihna - 39.9%. So no. Ange doesn’t have a similar percentage to Pedro.
If you guys want Gerrard or Gio back have at it
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but we can use your logic of just looking at win percentages? unless that stat means fook all?
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Strawman alert. I did not say it was my logic of just looking at win percentages now did I? Silly sausage.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzz
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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Can see it winding up similar to Howe (wrangling about back room staff) but we shall see.
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See what?
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Challenges with rangers getting dyche on board. Time will tell.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
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comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
Ange has a win record of 52.5%, dyche 35%. That’s 2/3rds the win rate. Or to put it another way; Ange’s win rate is 150% of what Dyche’s is.
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So Ange has a similar percentage to Pedro Caixinha? And a poorer percentage than Gio and Gerrard? must mean a lot then
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Pedro Caixihna - 39.9%. So no. Ange doesn’t have a similar percentage to Pedro.
If you guys want Gerrard or Gio back have at it
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but we can use your logic of just looking at win percentages? unless that stat means fook all?
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Strawman alert. I did not say it was my logic of just looking at win percentages now did I? Silly sausage.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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That’s right, back to sleep with you 😃
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
‘for me Dyche is tried and tested, proven winner for domestic football, proven he get results against teams far better than his which would be the case for us.’
In the SPFL?
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I dont think i could name a manager who is tried and tested in scotland who has never managed in scotland.
He has prven he can beat the teams poorer than his on paper on a regular basis and gain promotion and win a title which is the sceanrio he will face domestically if he took over us. He has proven he can compete with teams with better players than his which is the scenario he will face in europe if he was in charge of us.
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I wasn’t meaning anything about being tried and tested in Scotland, only about being proven at domestic level.
He’s got a decent record, but from memory, it’s fairly mixed against teams about his own level and I’m not sure it’s great against teams better than his. He didn’t make it past qualifying for the Europa league when he got them there.
No doubt he did well keeping Burnley in the top flight for as long as he did, and probably a good appointment if you can get him.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
‘for me Dyche is tried and tested, proven winner for domestic football, proven he get results against teams far better than his which would be the case for us.’
In the SPFL?
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I dont think i could name a manager who is tried and tested in scotland who has never managed in scotland.
He has prven he can beat the teams poorer than his on paper on a regular basis and gain promotion and win a title which is the sceanrio he will face domestically if he took over us. He has proven he can compete with teams with better players than his which is the scenario he will face in europe if he was in charge of us.
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I wasn’t meaning anything about being tried and tested in Scotland, only about being proven at domestic level.
He’s got a decent record, but from memory, it’s fairly mixed against teams about his own level and I’m not sure it’s great against teams better than his. He didn’t make it past qualifying for the Europa league when he got them there.
No doubt he did well keeping Burnley in the top flight for as long as he did, and probably a good appointment if you can get him.
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I jut meant the challenges we face at domestic level has shown in previous jobs he can deliever.
He has experience of taking one of the better teams in the league to glory which is what we need to show domestically. and has exerience of getting results against bigger better teams which is the scenario we face usually in europe.
He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.
I dont think he is the most effective guy we could get (but then its impossible to say this guy or that guy will be the most effective until they are in position) but I thikn he presents us with one of the least amounts of risk from the guys being linked.
He most likely will wait for a premiership job. You never have long to wait down there
Kinda feel bad for Gio took home a cup, got to a EL final, navigated through the CL qualifiers, nothing to be sniffed at there, anyway football is a ruthless business. So when you announcing McInnes?
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Kinda feel bad for Gio took home a cup, got to a EL final, navigated through the CL qualifiers, nothing to be sniffed at there, anyway football is a ruthless business. So when you announcing McInnes?
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He wasn’t really given a chance to build something. Gerrard had 3 years.
Got to the riches of the champions league and they gave him zero to spend
Then sack him 5 months later for struggling with injuries
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
McInnes or not; one things for sure.
Whoever taking Gio’s job has small shoes to fill.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 4 seconds ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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it must have been a net spend amount I read then?
quickly looking at the transfers his net spend on average per year was about 7m which is pretty good going for a team that achieved what they did.
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comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
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no point in looking to much into that IMO. very few clubs replicate out sceanario.
If you were gonna go down that route then the best fits for us would be managers of Linfield !
dominate teams domestically, dont have the money of the leagues around them do.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
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no point in looking to much into that IMO. very few clubs replicate out sceanario.
If you were gonna go down that route then the best fits for us would be managers of Linfield !
dominate teams domestically, dont have the money of the leagues around them do.
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It’s a risk taking on a manager with the “portfolio” of dyche. Dutch league a really decent market particularly managers at top end of it given how unequal it is. Possibly Turkish and Portuguese leagues too. And whoever it is will need time and money to rebuild the squad.
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posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
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no point in looking to much into that IMO. very few clubs replicate out sceanario.
If you were gonna go down that route then the best fits for us would be managers of Linfield !
dominate teams domestically, dont have the money of the leagues around them do.
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It’s a risk taking on a manager with the “portfolio” of dyche. Dutch league a really decent market particularly managers at top end of it given how unequal it is. Possibly Turkish and Portuguese leagues too. And whoever it is will need time and money to rebuild the squad.
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there is risk in any appointment. look for the least amount of risk and I think Dyche fits the bill.
Doesnt need huge amounts of money, has shown he can win a league, has shown he can cut it at the highest levels.
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 23 minutes ago
McInnes or not; one things for sure.
Whoever taking Gio’s job has small shoes to fill.
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snigger
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
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no point in looking to much into that IMO. very few clubs replicate out sceanario.
If you were gonna go down that route then the best fits for us would be managers of Linfield !
dominate teams domestically, dont have the money of the leagues around them do.
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It’s a risk taking on a manager with the “portfolio” of dyche. Dutch league a really decent market particularly managers at top end of it given how unequal it is. Possibly Turkish and Portuguese leagues too. And whoever it is will need time and money to rebuild the squad.
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there is risk in any appointment. look for the least amount of risk and I think Dyche fits the bill.
Doesnt need huge amounts of money, has shown he can win a league, has shown he can cut it at the highest levels.
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Entitled to that position. Time may tell if he has the tactical nous to set up against teams employing the low block. I think unfortunately for youz he will need more money than Gio was afforded in order to compete with Celtic.
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posted on 21/11/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
posted on 21/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
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Who is?
posted on 21/11/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
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Who is?
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quiet day i take it
posted on 21/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
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Who is?
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quiet day i take it
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Yes
Thought there was some mileage here
posted on 21/11/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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its the most sensible appointment IMO.
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What is?
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taking on Dyche.
to me it seems like possibly the least risk involved
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Who is?
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quiet day i take it
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Yes
Thought there was some mileage here
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right target .... wrong time mate !!
posted on 21/11/22
Fair enough
posted on 21/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
Ange has a win record of 52.5%, dyche 35%. That’s 2/3rds the win rate. Or to put it another way; Ange’s win rate is 150% of what Dyche’s is.
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So Ange has a similar percentage to Pedro Caixinha? And a poorer percentage than Gio and Gerrard? must mean a lot then
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Pedro Caixihna - 39.9%. So no. Ange doesn’t have a similar percentage to Pedro.
If you guys want Gerrard or Gio back have at it
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but we can use your logic of just looking at win percentages? unless that stat means fook all?
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Strawman alert. I did not say it was my logic of just looking at win percentages now did I? Silly sausage.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
Ange has a win record of 52.5%, dyche 35%. That’s 2/3rds the win rate. Or to put it another way; Ange’s win rate is 150% of what Dyche’s is.
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So Ange has a similar percentage to Pedro Caixinha? And a poorer percentage than Gio and Gerrard? must mean a lot then
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Pedro Caixihna - 39.9%. So no. Ange doesn’t have a similar percentage to Pedro.
If you guys want Gerrard or Gio back have at it
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but we can use your logic of just looking at win percentages? unless that stat means fook all?
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Strawman alert. I did not say it was my logic of just looking at win percentages now did I? Silly sausage.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzz
posted on 21/11/22
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
Loads of rumours down here is that it’s Dyche
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Can see it winding up similar to Howe (wrangling about back room staff) but we shall see.
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See what?
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Challenges with rangers getting dyche on board. Time will tell.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 7 seconds ago
Ange has a win record of 52.5%, dyche 35%. That’s 2/3rds the win rate. Or to put it another way; Ange’s win rate is 150% of what Dyche’s is.
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So Ange has a similar percentage to Pedro Caixinha? And a poorer percentage than Gio and Gerrard? must mean a lot then
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Pedro Caixihna - 39.9%. So no. Ange doesn’t have a similar percentage to Pedro.
If you guys want Gerrard or Gio back have at it
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but we can use your logic of just looking at win percentages? unless that stat means fook all?
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Strawman alert. I did not say it was my logic of just looking at win percentages now did I? Silly sausage.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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That’s right, back to sleep with you 😃
posted on 21/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
‘for me Dyche is tried and tested, proven winner for domestic football, proven he get results against teams far better than his which would be the case for us.’
In the SPFL?
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I dont think i could name a manager who is tried and tested in scotland who has never managed in scotland.
He has prven he can beat the teams poorer than his on paper on a regular basis and gain promotion and win a title which is the sceanrio he will face domestically if he took over us. He has proven he can compete with teams with better players than his which is the scenario he will face in europe if he was in charge of us.
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I wasn’t meaning anything about being tried and tested in Scotland, only about being proven at domestic level.
He’s got a decent record, but from memory, it’s fairly mixed against teams about his own level and I’m not sure it’s great against teams better than his. He didn’t make it past qualifying for the Europa league when he got them there.
No doubt he did well keeping Burnley in the top flight for as long as he did, and probably a good appointment if you can get him.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
‘for me Dyche is tried and tested, proven winner for domestic football, proven he get results against teams far better than his which would be the case for us.’
In the SPFL?
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I dont think i could name a manager who is tried and tested in scotland who has never managed in scotland.
He has prven he can beat the teams poorer than his on paper on a regular basis and gain promotion and win a title which is the sceanrio he will face domestically if he took over us. He has proven he can compete with teams with better players than his which is the scenario he will face in europe if he was in charge of us.
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I wasn’t meaning anything about being tried and tested in Scotland, only about being proven at domestic level.
He’s got a decent record, but from memory, it’s fairly mixed against teams about his own level and I’m not sure it’s great against teams better than his. He didn’t make it past qualifying for the Europa league when he got them there.
No doubt he did well keeping Burnley in the top flight for as long as he did, and probably a good appointment if you can get him.
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I jut meant the challenges we face at domestic level has shown in previous jobs he can deliever.
He has experience of taking one of the better teams in the league to glory which is what we need to show domestically. and has exerience of getting results against bigger better teams which is the scenario we face usually in europe.
He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.
I dont think he is the most effective guy we could get (but then its impossible to say this guy or that guy will be the most effective until they are in position) but I thikn he presents us with one of the least amounts of risk from the guys being linked.
posted on 21/11/22
He most likely will wait for a premiership job. You never have long to wait down there
posted on 21/11/22
Kinda feel bad for Gio took home a cup, got to a EL final, navigated through the CL qualifiers, nothing to be sniffed at there, anyway football is a ruthless business. So when you announcing McInnes?
posted on 21/11/22
comment by GTB, Call Sign filtered me without my consent (U14017)
posted 3 minutes ago
Kinda feel bad for Gio took home a cup, got to a EL final, navigated through the CL qualifiers, nothing to be sniffed at there, anyway football is a ruthless business. So when you announcing McInnes?
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He wasn’t really given a chance to build something. Gerrard had 3 years.
posted on 21/11/22
Got to the riches of the champions league and they gave him zero to spend
Then sack him 5 months later for struggling with injuries
posted on 21/11/22
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
posted on 21/11/22
McInnes or not; one things for sure.
Whoever taking Gio’s job has small shoes to fill.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 4 seconds ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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it must have been a net spend amount I read then?
quickly looking at the transfers his net spend on average per year was about 7m which is pretty good going for a team that achieved what they did.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
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no point in looking to much into that IMO. very few clubs replicate out sceanario.
If you were gonna go down that route then the best fits for us would be managers of Linfield !
dominate teams domestically, dont have the money of the leagues around them do.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
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no point in looking to much into that IMO. very few clubs replicate out sceanario.
If you were gonna go down that route then the best fits for us would be managers of Linfield !
dominate teams domestically, dont have the money of the leagues around them do.
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It’s a risk taking on a manager with the “portfolio” of dyche. Dutch league a really decent market particularly managers at top end of it given how unequal it is. Possibly Turkish and Portuguese leagues too. And whoever it is will need time and money to rebuild the squad.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
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no point in looking to much into that IMO. very few clubs replicate out sceanario.
If you were gonna go down that route then the best fits for us would be managers of Linfield !
dominate teams domestically, dont have the money of the leagues around them do.
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It’s a risk taking on a manager with the “portfolio” of dyche. Dutch league a really decent market particularly managers at top end of it given how unequal it is. Possibly Turkish and Portuguese leagues too. And whoever it is will need time and money to rebuild the squad.
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there is risk in any appointment. look for the least amount of risk and I think Dyche fits the bill.
Doesnt need huge amounts of money, has shown he can win a league, has shown he can cut it at the highest levels.
posted on 21/11/22
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 23 minutes ago
McInnes or not; one things for sure.
Whoever taking Gio’s job has small shoes to fill.
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snigger
posted on 21/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 5 minutes ago
‘He stayed in the EPL with an average budget of something mental like 9m a year im sure. Thats massively punching above tour weight and playing team with better players IMO.’
According to transfermrkt-not the best I agree-he spent over €188 million on transfer fees in the last 6 years. There were some big transfers out during that time obviously-rinsing Newcastle for £25 million helped-but he had a decent budget for players most season.
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👍 I wonder too in a league where he needs to dominate teams if he can do that. The SPFL Premiership is not the English championship, you get a higher % of teams sitting deep and “low blocking” up here, which presents its own challenges of how one sets a team up. It is in part why Gio looked a good appointment given his time at Feyenoord where there’s a large proportion of opponents who are at a lower level to the team he was managing. He got 42million to invest at feyenoord and importantly time. I would’ve thought the brains at rangers could recognise that the end of a cycle was coming and significant reinvestment was required, and could be helpfully supported/financed by making a Europa final and champs league group stages. I guess not.
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no point in looking to much into that IMO. very few clubs replicate out sceanario.
If you were gonna go down that route then the best fits for us would be managers of Linfield !
dominate teams domestically, dont have the money of the leagues around them do.
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It’s a risk taking on a manager with the “portfolio” of dyche. Dutch league a really decent market particularly managers at top end of it given how unequal it is. Possibly Turkish and Portuguese leagues too. And whoever it is will need time and money to rebuild the squad.
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there is risk in any appointment. look for the least amount of risk and I think Dyche fits the bill.
Doesnt need huge amounts of money, has shown he can win a league, has shown he can cut it at the highest levels.
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Entitled to that position. Time may tell if he has the tactical nous to set up against teams employing the low block. I think unfortunately for youz he will need more money than Gio was afforded in order to compete with Celtic.
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