You seen this absolute fecking cuuuunnnntard?

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/health/hancock-lawyers-immunity-covid-prosecution-26391476

They reckon he's killed about 200,000 people. And lied about it while getting in his mates in the media to cover for him.

Edward Elizabeth Hitler reads like one of Barry’s wums.

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You don't have to be an economics guru to understand that getting rid of the fecking cuuuunnnntards running the country right now would easily pay for everything you're concerned about, Edward. They've facked the country in the arris till it's bleeding now they're pointing the finger at asylum seekers.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/03/tory-austerity-has-cost-uk-half-a-trillion-pounds-of-public-spending-since-2010


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You don't have to be an economics guru to understand that Linekers comments work in the favour of the existing Government either.
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Wasn't asking for your opinion. Thanks
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No problem, keep doing what you're doing, worked so well this past decade.
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Thanks yeah I've done alright

You would know though, obviously.
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Dear oh dear, you think I was talking about you?
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The but when you said you and you're was a clue.

I get the feeling your not a wordologist
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I was referring to 2015,2016,2017,2019. Good job we've got bright sparks like you and Lineker leading the line
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Who's we and you?

I'm not an expert on vagaries like yourself.
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You are an expert on whining about Governments getting voted into power though. If only you became an expert on why that happens.
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I'm not an expert on anything aside from celebrities, unicycles, and Brighton. I don't know why you care about my opinions or would assume that I have political influence.

Can you help me understand why you made such assumptions?
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Why? Am I not allowed an opinion?
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Sure. It's just kneejerk and worthless unless it's informed. I was trying to be nice and give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a massive hypocrite but ok.

You're not very good at this trolling business btw.
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Thanks for your well reasoned input again, doing some sterling work here
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I thought greatness would recognize greatness. Cheers

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You seen this absolute fecking cuuuunnnntard?

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/health/hancock-lawyers-immunity-covid-prosecution-26391476

They reckon he's killed about 200,000 people. And lied about it while getting in his mates in the media to cover for him.
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He even beat Harold Shipman’s record

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Cmon lets have a why and some reasoning behind these opinions. A thorough analysis of what the problem involves from a moral, practical and economic perspective and what the potential solutions and outcomes are.

I want to see the net cost and benefit to the Country as whole, how this plan affects it, what other plans there could be etc.

It's all to easy to post up an opinion with no substance. Not sure what anyone on here or Lineker has to offer if they're just saying things like yeah I agree, yeah I don't agree, 1930, we need to help people, etc.
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https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/economics/about-department/fiscal-effects-immigration-uk

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/revealed-immigrants-put-34-more-into-public-finances-than-they-take-out/

Good starting point. There are so many variables. Also the bigger picture has to be recognised of UK born British citizens of immigrants further growing the economy as they too join the work force.
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Thanks.

Yes that's one element, fiscal impact is debatable and likely to be negligible either way.

Cultural impact is a large facet and public opinion sways towards poor handling of the issues, though it's relatively divided.

If the majority of the Country support the Government in a democratic society on this issue how does this compare to 1930s Germany?

As pointed out (before Winston came in with his usual provocation) there are practical and moral issues to consider.

I don't see people formulating an opinion on how nuclei should be merged in Nuclear fusion but take an issue just as complicated as this and people are more than happy to give their opinions.
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What are the practical and moral issues you’re thinking of?


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Lots of practical issues, but I'll give you a direct example - perception by the indigenous population. The 2016 vote was a prime example of a reaction borne of public perception and Europe has been shifting to the right for some time now. Italy being a prime example.

The moral issues are equally as complicated, e.g, whether people should be putting themselves in harms way to rescue people in boats.
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On your first point the 2016 vote and perceptions. I don’t think many gave considerations to NI. Who are within the jurisdiction of the British government currently. None had the foresight to recognise the problems that would arise for the island of Ireland as a whole have two different trading arrangements. It was imo a referendum vote that was made in good faith, as there was tonnes of misinformation or rather manipulation of information to suit given agendas.

On your second point I don’t think anyone is being asked to put themselves in danger to show to show empathy and compassion to those trying the flee hardship and plight.

I may not agree with Winston in many aspects of this discussion. But it does sound like you’ll have splinters in your ars* As your speaking through both sides of your mouth - at the same time
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First point
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-latest-news-leave-eu-immigration-main-reason-european-union-survey-a7811651.html
Second point, plenty of literature on it
https://gdsnet.org/BettsCollierChapter4.pdf
https://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/jwi/2016/02/19/lecture-by-prof-david-miller-feb-2016-the-duty-to-rescue-boat-people/

Third point, read those articles
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I now understand your opinion. It was very ambiguous in your earlier comments

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You seen this absolute fecking cuuuunnnntard?

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/health/hancock-lawyers-immunity-covid-prosecution-26391476

They reckon he's killed about 200,000 people. And lied about it while getting in his mates in the media to cover for him.
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He even beat Harold Shipman’s record
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Gotta worry about them people on boats though, you know, the ones with the funny accents.

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Edward Elizabeth Hitler reads like one of Barry’s wums.
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Who’s Barry?

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Edward Elizabeth Hitler reads like one of Barry’s wums.
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Who’s Barry?
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You’ll see soon.

Those sneaky Tories……trotting out their anti immigration policies via 2 brown skinned women in Priti Patel and Sue Braverman……can’t be accused of racism if it’s brown people saying it right? Makes their policies look at lot more acceptable if spoken by brown skinned people
I see through these Tories

I don’t think this is about immigration for them, when it gets blocked in the courts they’ll go after ECHR. They want to uncouple Britain from institutions that protect the rights of their citizens. They’ve been pretty brazen about this.

Anyway

Who knows how to ride a unicycle? I am impressed

It's the boredom that gets to you the most.

I'm pretty sure we we're all offered Hover Bikes if we left the EU.

I am firmly in favour of Lineker having his right to say what he wants, even though I think he’s full of sh11t, it’s Free Speech - I doubt the “woke” Left would be happy allowing the opposing view person keep their position though, it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…

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I am firmly in favour of Lineker having his right to say what he wants, even though I think he’s full of sh11t, it’s Free Speech - I doubt the “woke” Left would be happy allowing the opposing view person keep their position though, it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…
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Yes it really is. It's these guys that have ruined Britain and are now most concerned with having you blame everyone but them
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/03/tory-austerity-has-cost-uk-half-a-trillion-pounds-of-public-spending-since-2010

it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…
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I wouldn’t go as far as calling the Tories that, but they employ many similar tactics.

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I am firmly in favour of Lineker having his right to say what he wants, even though I think he’s full of sh11t, it’s Free Speech - I doubt the “woke” Left would be happy allowing the opposing view person keep their position though, it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…
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There’s an awful lot of daft things to unpick there for such a short comment!

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I am firmly in favour of Lineker having his right to say what he wants, even though I think he’s full of sh11t, it’s Free Speech - I doubt the “woke” Left would be happy allowing the opposing view person keep their position though, it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…
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The 'opposing' people are the gov who not only hold their positions, they're being elevated in Politics because they hold the opposing view

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I am firmly in favour of Lineker having his right to say what he wants, even though I think he’s full of sh11t, it’s Free Speech - I doubt the “woke” Left would be happy allowing the opposing view person keep their position though, it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…
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Yes it really is. It's these guys that have ruined Britain and are now most concerned with having you blame everyone but them
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/03/tory-austerity-has-cost-uk-half-a-trillion-pounds-of-public-spending-since-2010
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Meanwhile Lineker on his 1.3million salary, paid for by a license that nobody has a choice in paying, is happily galvanising right wing opinion with his emotive knee jerk comments. Worked so well over the last decade this approach hasn't it

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I am firmly in favour of Lineker having his right to say what he wants, even though I think he’s full of sh11t, it’s Free Speech - I doubt the “woke” Left would be happy allowing the opposing view person keep their position though, it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…
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Yes it really is. It's these guys that have ruined Britain and are now most concerned with having you blame everyone but them
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/03/tory-austerity-has-cost-uk-half-a-trillion-pounds-of-public-spending-since-2010
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Meanwhile Lineker on his 1.3million salary, paid for by a license that nobody has a choice in paying, is happily galvanising right wing opinion with his emotive knee jerk comments. Worked so well over the last decade this approach hasn't it
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In your worthless kneejerk opinion

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I am firmly in favour of Lineker having his right to say what he wants, even though I think he’s full of sh11t, it’s Free Speech - I doubt the “woke” Left would be happy allowing the opposing view person keep their position though, it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…
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Yes it really is. It's these guys that have ruined Britain and are now most concerned with having you blame everyone but them
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/03/tory-austerity-has-cost-uk-half-a-trillion-pounds-of-public-spending-since-2010
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Meanwhile Lineker on his 1.3million salary, paid for by a license that nobody has a choice in paying, is happily galvanising right wing opinion with his emotive knee jerk comments. Worked so well over the last decade this approach hasn't it
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In your worthless kneejerk opinion
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Insanity = doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.

Lineker’s galvanising right wing opinion now.

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I am firmly in favour of Lineker having his right to say what he wants, even though I think he’s full of sh11t, it’s Free Speech - I doubt the “woke” Left would be happy allowing the opposing view person keep their position though, it’s pretty clear who the authoritarian fascists are…
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Yes it really is. It's these guys that have ruined Britain and are now most concerned with having you blame everyone but them
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/03/tory-austerity-has-cost-uk-half-a-trillion-pounds-of-public-spending-since-2010
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Meanwhile Lineker on his 1.3million salary, paid for by a license that nobody has a choice in paying, is happily galvanising right wing opinion with his emotive knee jerk comments. Worked so well over the last decade this approach hasn't it
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In your worthless kneejerk opinion
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Insanity = doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.
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Tell that to Tory voters please

Tories in power for over a decade

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Lineker’s galvanising right wing opinion now.
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The projection from who are really the snowflakes showing a fair bit there…