It's impossible to believe junior doctors are taking this step without good cause
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
It’s a bit scary when NHS staff strike, but it’s also sad that they feel they’re in a position where they need to.
Not a good state of affairs for anyone.
Generally speaking, we undervalue some of the most important jobs in this country.
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 42 minutes ago
They have my 100% support, as do all public sector strikers
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💯
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
What’s a JD salary at currently?
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 6 minutes ago
What’s a JD salary at currently?
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F1's go in on £29,000. Up to 34,000 after 1 year and then after core training up to £40k.
It's an actual disgrace. You can get a job in a call centre for £23-24k these days.
So. I would award a 9% inflation matching pay rise plus a further 11% pay rise to all Nurses in Primary and Secondary Care and all Junior Doctors.
That's a 20% across the board.
I would also ensure that any senior specialist Nurses and advanced Nurse practitioners in Primary Care who are seconded to fill in for absent GPs on top of their normal workload to be paid 4 times their existing hourly rate for the extra workload they take on.
How dare people think this is important when MOTD is in utter freefall
People need to perspective
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posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you asking then?
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you asking then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
because some seem to think its running well above 25%
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you asking then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
because some seem to think its running well above 25%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
25% is an opening gambit, will probably settle for 16/17% which is still below inflation.
Reply | Add
You have to take in to account inflation since the last payrise, not just the current rate.
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you asking then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
because some seem to think its running well above 25%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
25% is an opening gambit, will probably settle for 16/17% which is still below inflation.
Reply | Add
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I know that, Which why I think that 20% for Nurses and JD a fairish deal.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 37 minutes ago
ITV should bring back The Young Doctors while we're on the subject.
Aussie drama at its best.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ll raise you a prisoner cell block H
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 37 minutes ago
ITV should bring back The Young Doctors while we're on the subject.
Aussie drama at its best.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ll raise you a prisoner cell block H
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Another classic but Bluey was the daddy.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 6 minutes ago
What’s a JD salary at currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
F1's go in on £29,000. Up to 34,000 after 1 year and then after core training up to £40k.
It's an actual disgrace. You can get a job in a call centre for £23-24k these days.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not a lot to pay off the undoubtedly massive uni debts they’ll have incurred to get there.
But while the scale of the pay claim is new, dissatisfaction with working conditions and pay pre-date the rise of the Doctors Vote movement.
Studying medicine at university takes five years, meaning big debts for most. Dr Trivedi says £80,000 of student loans are often topped up by private debt.
On top of that, doctors have to pay for ongoing exams and professional membership fees. Their junior doctor training can see them having to make several moves across the country and with little control over the hours they work.
This lasts many years - junior doctors can commonly spend close to a decade in training.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64907379
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 6 minutes ago
What’s a JD salary at currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
F1's go in on £29,000. Up to 34,000 after 1 year and then after core training up to £40k.
It's an actual disgrace. You can get a job in a call centre for £23-24k these days.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not a lot to pay off the undoubtedly massive uni debts they’ll have incurred to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
Obviously later in their careers they can earn very good money. However 7 years at Uni to go in on 29k is a joke.
What did people expect?
We’ve a war in Europe involving two major suppliers of commodities.
We just had a pandemic, an economic disaster, a £70bn furlough bill, eat out to help out.
I think there are things the government should be doing to help, particularly with the energy cap which feels like a cartel at this point. However they weren’t traditional “tory” during the pandemic era, in fact they spent a lot more I think you’d expect and there was always going to be a knock on affect.
I’m fortunate enough to have progressed well in my career these last 4 years and I’ve genuinely no idea how families on a combined <£55k even survive.
I'm sure I read that they wanted 35% - the BBC was reporting that. Although perhaps the BBC only reported that because the government told them to
As with the other public service strikes, I'm completely supportive. These are people who just want a reasonable wage for the vital work they do. But whilst I support all the strikes, I'm particularly behind the NHS staff that are striking, the wages they get for the unbelievable work they do is nothing short of scandalous.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
What did people expect?
We’ve a war in Europe involving two major suppliers of commodities.
We just had a pandemic, an economic disaster, a £70bn furlough bill, eat out to help out.
I think there are things the government should be doing to help, particularly with the energy cap which feels like a cartel at this point. However they weren’t traditional “tory” during the pandemic era, in fact they spent a lot more I think you’d expect and there was always going to be a knock on affect.
I’m fortunate enough to have progressed well in my career these last 4 years and I’ve genuinely no idea how families on a combined <£55k even survive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've also done fairly well in terms of career/money during the pandemic and I don't have kids etc. But having worked previously in the public sector and now in the private sector, it's simply unbelievable (in my experience) how much nicer the latter is. It's nothing short of scandalous that I get more money than I did as a teacher, let alone than junior doctors. These highly skilled, stressful, vital jobs need more than they're getting. And, frankly, people like me need less.
Junior doctors are qualified doctors in clinical training. They have completed a medical degree and foundation training, and have anywhere up to eight years' experience working as a hospital doctor, depending on their specialty, or up to three years in general practice. All junior doctors work under the supervisor of a senior doctor.
Common titles for junior doctors:
FY1 = Foundation year one junior doctor.
FY2 = Foundation year two junior doctor.
ST = Specialty trainee in a hospital specialty - includes StR (Specialty Registrar) or have a number signifying the amount of years spent in training.
SpR = Specialty Registrar in a hospital specialty
GPST = Specialty Registrar in general practice
SHO = Senior House Officer
Its a long road for Junior Doctors on relatively low pay and very long hours. However the sky is the limit to what you can earn as a medics who gets through this part of their careers. The problem is that more and more Junior Doctors these days, don't.
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
What did people expect?
We’ve a war in Europe involving two major suppliers of commodities.
We just had a pandemic, an economic disaster, a £70bn furlough bill, eat out to help out.
I think there are things the government should be doing to help, particularly with the energy cap which feels like a cartel at this point. However they weren’t traditional “tory” during the pandemic era, in fact they spent a lot more I think you’d expect and there was always going to be a knock on affect.
I’m fortunate enough to have progressed well in my career these last 4 years and I’ve genuinely no idea how families on a combined <£55k even survive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've also done fairly well in terms of career/money during the pandemic and I don't have kids etc. But having worked previously in the public sector and now in the private sector, it's simply unbelievable (in my experience) how much nicer the latter is. It's nothing short of scandalous that I get more money than I did as a teacher, let alone than junior doctors. These highly skilled, stressful, vital jobs need more than they're getting. And, frankly, people like me need less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t disagree, skilled workers with important jobs absolutely deserve good salaries.
I don’t want to confuse public services with emergency services though. I know so many government workers who get paid very good money for very little work.
It’s different in private sectors as if you aren’t providing value, you’re likely to lose your job. The pensions are generally much worse, the maternity etc.
I guess my point, is what do we use to give the whole public service? I’m squeezed enough as it is without having to pay more tax to fund a public sector that is frankly failing me in many areas.
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posted on 12/3/23
It's impossible to believe junior doctors are taking this step without good cause
posted on 12/3/23
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
posted on 12/3/23
It’s a bit scary when NHS staff strike, but it’s also sad that they feel they’re in a position where they need to.
Not a good state of affairs for anyone.
Generally speaking, we undervalue some of the most important jobs in this country.
posted on 12/3/23
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 42 minutes ago
They have my 100% support, as do all public sector strikers
----------------------------------------------------------------------
💯
posted on 12/3/23
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
posted on 12/3/23
What’s a JD salary at currently?
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 6 minutes ago
What’s a JD salary at currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
F1's go in on £29,000. Up to 34,000 after 1 year and then after core training up to £40k.
It's an actual disgrace. You can get a job in a call centre for £23-24k these days.
posted on 12/3/23
So. I would award a 9% inflation matching pay rise plus a further 11% pay rise to all Nurses in Primary and Secondary Care and all Junior Doctors.
That's a 20% across the board.
I would also ensure that any senior specialist Nurses and advanced Nurse practitioners in Primary Care who are seconded to fill in for absent GPs on top of their normal workload to be paid 4 times their existing hourly rate for the extra workload they take on.
posted on 12/3/23
How dare people think this is important when MOTD is in utter freefall
People need to perspective
posted on 12/3/23
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you asking then?
posted on 12/3/23
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you asking then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
because some seem to think its running well above 25%
posted on 12/3/23
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you asking then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
because some seem to think its running well above 25%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
25% is an opening gambit, will probably settle for 16/17% which is still below inflation.
Reply | Add
posted on 12/3/23
You have to take in to account inflation since the last payrise, not just the current rate.
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
what do you think is the current rate of inflation in the UK?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food inflation 20%
Energy inflation 40%
House price inflation - 8%
Government spending 15%
Real wages - 12%
Misery index +12
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But do you know what the official rate of inflation is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it’s about 10% currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it's not a secret.
It is currently running at 8.8% from Jan 22 to Jan 23.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you asking then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
because some seem to think its running well above 25%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
25% is an opening gambit, will probably settle for 16/17% which is still below inflation.
Reply | Add
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes I know that, Which why I think that 20% for Nurses and JD a fairish deal.
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 37 minutes ago
ITV should bring back The Young Doctors while we're on the subject.
Aussie drama at its best.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ll raise you a prisoner cell block H
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 37 minutes ago
ITV should bring back The Young Doctors while we're on the subject.
Aussie drama at its best.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’ll raise you a prisoner cell block H
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Another classic but Bluey was the daddy.
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 6 minutes ago
What’s a JD salary at currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
F1's go in on £29,000. Up to 34,000 after 1 year and then after core training up to £40k.
It's an actual disgrace. You can get a job in a call centre for £23-24k these days.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not a lot to pay off the undoubtedly massive uni debts they’ll have incurred to get there.
posted on 12/3/23
But while the scale of the pay claim is new, dissatisfaction with working conditions and pay pre-date the rise of the Doctors Vote movement.
Studying medicine at university takes five years, meaning big debts for most. Dr Trivedi says £80,000 of student loans are often topped up by private debt.
On top of that, doctors have to pay for ongoing exams and professional membership fees. Their junior doctor training can see them having to make several moves across the country and with little control over the hours they work.
This lasts many years - junior doctors can commonly spend close to a decade in training.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64907379
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 6 minutes ago
What’s a JD salary at currently?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
F1's go in on £29,000. Up to 34,000 after 1 year and then after core training up to £40k.
It's an actual disgrace. You can get a job in a call centre for £23-24k these days.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not a lot to pay off the undoubtedly massive uni debts they’ll have incurred to get there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
Obviously later in their careers they can earn very good money. However 7 years at Uni to go in on 29k is a joke.
posted on 12/3/23
What did people expect?
We’ve a war in Europe involving two major suppliers of commodities.
We just had a pandemic, an economic disaster, a £70bn furlough bill, eat out to help out.
I think there are things the government should be doing to help, particularly with the energy cap which feels like a cartel at this point. However they weren’t traditional “tory” during the pandemic era, in fact they spent a lot more I think you’d expect and there was always going to be a knock on affect.
I’m fortunate enough to have progressed well in my career these last 4 years and I’ve genuinely no idea how families on a combined <£55k even survive.
posted on 12/3/23
I'm sure I read that they wanted 35% - the BBC was reporting that. Although perhaps the BBC only reported that because the government told them to
As with the other public service strikes, I'm completely supportive. These are people who just want a reasonable wage for the vital work they do. But whilst I support all the strikes, I'm particularly behind the NHS staff that are striking, the wages they get for the unbelievable work they do is nothing short of scandalous.
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
What did people expect?
We’ve a war in Europe involving two major suppliers of commodities.
We just had a pandemic, an economic disaster, a £70bn furlough bill, eat out to help out.
I think there are things the government should be doing to help, particularly with the energy cap which feels like a cartel at this point. However they weren’t traditional “tory” during the pandemic era, in fact they spent a lot more I think you’d expect and there was always going to be a knock on affect.
I’m fortunate enough to have progressed well in my career these last 4 years and I’ve genuinely no idea how families on a combined <£55k even survive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've also done fairly well in terms of career/money during the pandemic and I don't have kids etc. But having worked previously in the public sector and now in the private sector, it's simply unbelievable (in my experience) how much nicer the latter is. It's nothing short of scandalous that I get more money than I did as a teacher, let alone than junior doctors. These highly skilled, stressful, vital jobs need more than they're getting. And, frankly, people like me need less.
posted on 12/3/23
Junior doctors are qualified doctors in clinical training. They have completed a medical degree and foundation training, and have anywhere up to eight years' experience working as a hospital doctor, depending on their specialty, or up to three years in general practice. All junior doctors work under the supervisor of a senior doctor.
Common titles for junior doctors:
FY1 = Foundation year one junior doctor.
FY2 = Foundation year two junior doctor.
ST = Specialty trainee in a hospital specialty - includes StR (Specialty Registrar) or have a number signifying the amount of years spent in training.
SpR = Specialty Registrar in a hospital specialty
GPST = Specialty Registrar in general practice
SHO = Senior House Officer
Its a long road for Junior Doctors on relatively low pay and very long hours. However the sky is the limit to what you can earn as a medics who gets through this part of their careers. The problem is that more and more Junior Doctors these days, don't.
posted on 12/3/23
comment by Clockwork Red: With or Wout You (U4892)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
What did people expect?
We’ve a war in Europe involving two major suppliers of commodities.
We just had a pandemic, an economic disaster, a £70bn furlough bill, eat out to help out.
I think there are things the government should be doing to help, particularly with the energy cap which feels like a cartel at this point. However they weren’t traditional “tory” during the pandemic era, in fact they spent a lot more I think you’d expect and there was always going to be a knock on affect.
I’m fortunate enough to have progressed well in my career these last 4 years and I’ve genuinely no idea how families on a combined <£55k even survive.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've also done fairly well in terms of career/money during the pandemic and I don't have kids etc. But having worked previously in the public sector and now in the private sector, it's simply unbelievable (in my experience) how much nicer the latter is. It's nothing short of scandalous that I get more money than I did as a teacher, let alone than junior doctors. These highly skilled, stressful, vital jobs need more than they're getting. And, frankly, people like me need less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t disagree, skilled workers with important jobs absolutely deserve good salaries.
I don’t want to confuse public services with emergency services though. I know so many government workers who get paid very good money for very little work.
It’s different in private sectors as if you aren’t providing value, you’re likely to lose your job. The pensions are generally much worse, the maternity etc.
I guess my point, is what do we use to give the whole public service? I’m squeezed enough as it is without having to pay more tax to fund a public sector that is frankly failing me in many areas.
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