comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 13 minutes ago
I'm no Levy fan Don but that "quote" is taken completely out of context. He's not saying finishing above Arsenal was a success.
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Arsenal are on the rise mate. They back their managers and giving the league title a push coming up against arguably one of the best Prem sides ever. Levy justifying that bulls** with “well we finished above them a few times and had fun”. Losers mentality mate. He should be aching to emulate Arsenal and go challenging that league next season. He’s an utter fraud of a chairman and still you defend him.
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I don't disagree about Arsenal and we could all see it this season (apart from Sandy!) I still think they may finish second though.
Anyway, I think Levy's point was that he annoyed to see them above us, after we had finally got the better of them the for the last few years. He needs to learn, not get annoyed though!
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 minute ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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How much is each Premier League place worth? I think it's £2m?
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 minute ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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Winners of the Europa League can win up to €20m if they win all their group games, and the conference league is now around €13m, if they also win all their group games.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 minute ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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Winners of the Europa League can win up to €20m if they win all their group games, and the conference league is now around €13m, if they also win all their group games.
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Thanks Luka.
When you see that the Carabao cup winning are just £100k you can begin to understand why clubs (all clubs, possibly bar Man City) don't field strong teams.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
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Agreed. Kane and his brother should be doing all they can to secure a move away. Problem for them, Levy will want I'm guessing £100m from another Prem team.
Only Utd and Chelsea would pay it.
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 minute ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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Winners of the Europa League can win up to €20m if they win all their group games, and the conference league is now around €13m, if they also win all their group games.
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Thanks Luka.
When you see that the Carabao cup winning are just £100k you can begin to understand why clubs (all clubs, possibly bar Man City) don't field strong teams.
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Agreed, not to mention that cup adds to fixure congestion so rotation has to come into play.
I think you can read a lot into his cherry picking approach to disclosure and honesty. He's happy to be candid in front of a bunch of indifferent Cambridge graduates but he never takes the same approach when addressing real fans. That suggests that essentially he knows that we can see through the bullshiiiiit. Football fans, by and large, don't tend to be the most intelligent demographic so I can see why he'd rather not debate issues with a bunch of Brexit-loving meatheads, but if you're going to own a football club, you agree that you're nothing more than a custodian, the captain of a ship that is nothing without support staff. He needs to be more present, more transparent with those that matter. And he needs to digest the criticism better. At the moment he thinks fans criticise him for a lack of ambition regarding finances. Some might but that's not where I stand. We ARE competitive financially with the top six. Maybe not to Chelsea's ridiculous levels but we're not much different to Liverpool and Arsenal. Our problem is that we spend so badly. We flip flop on ideas so frequently that recruitment reflects that muddled level of thinking. It's his decisions that are his biggest weakness, not the size of his wallet.
1. He can't get managers right.
2. He can't get sporting directors right.
3. He can't settle on a philosophy.
3. By virtue of 1, 2 & 3 he can't get recruitment right.
He puts out a statement about front foot football that's suggestive of a philosophy and then completely contradicts it by bringing in Conte and formerly Paratici. If that is your mission statement, you don't bring either of those guys on board.
Sandy is just a delusional, contrary Mary if he thinks Levy is a great chairman. It's his modus operandi. See what the rest of JA606 thinks and choose the exact opposite just to get noticed. It's laughable. It really is.
Really don't know how we get rid of Levy. He's drunk with power now. This new stadium has completed his masterplan which coincides with the slow destruction of the football club.
Munn will need to stage a couple with the fans and somehow remove Levy
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really don't know how we get rid of Levy. He's drunk with power now. This new stadium has completed his masterplan which coincides with the slow destruction of the football club.
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Tbf to him what he has built has taken 17 or 18 years to complete. A slow destruction as you put it would be relegation so we are safe for now and have been for many years.
And your second point is just stupid. You think the man who he is just employed is going to stage some BS coup with a bunch of tribal idiots to remove him? What planet are you on? Probably best not to answer 👍🏻
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
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Agreed. Kane and his brother should be doing all they can to secure a move away. Problem for them, Levy will want I'm guessing £100m from another Prem team.
Only Utd and Chelsea would pay it.
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What about Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid? They could be tempted with their showings either in their own leagues or struggling in the CL. I can't see how Kane would say no, especially to Madrid, if he was intent on leaving.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
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The problem we have is that all the time Kane is around, there's a pressure to 'win now', which is a direct contradiction of what the club actually needs at this time. We all want Kane to stay but not if it keeps us in this purgatory state of not knowing whether we need a project or a winner. The club needs a project and Kane needs a winner. His and the club's needs are diametrically opposed to each other. Of course, we all want to win trophies, but I don't think that's possible without first having a project. If you don't have the riches of a Chelsea or United or the perfect system of City, then there is no way to fast track success. It's taken Arteta 3 years to get to this point and he's still looking like he'll fail to win the PL (sure he won an FA Cup but that's the exception rather than the rule).
If we get in a win now man like Enrique, Kane might stay but it will be a disaster within 2 years.
If we get a project man like Slot, Kane will leave but I guarantee we'll be closer to winning something at that 2 year point.
We've got to stop putting Kane central to our decision making. He's one player. A brilliant one, admittedly, but only one player. The club always comes first.
Is a hit man out of the question, suppose you would get someone who would probably miss by a mile.
I think you can read a lot into his cherry picking approach to disclosure and honesty. He's happy to be candid in front of a bunch of indifferent Cambridge graduates but he never takes the same approach when addressing real fans.
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He wasn't candid at all. Every answer was calculated and there were Spurs fans in there asking him questions. Just because they are not angry louts like you doesn't mean they are Spurs fans.
One fan asked Levy because his friend pinpointed the moment (after Poch released his book) it went wrong for Poch. Levy answered he knew about it but did not give an answer about the impact on Poch's reign.
Your beloved Poch. Yeah lets get him back because he cried once lol.
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 34 seconds ago
Is a hit man out of the question, suppose you would get someone who would probably miss by a mile.
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Even a failed murder attempt can be accurately described as Spursy Eventually it'll be an adjective widely used outside football.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
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Agreed. Kane and his brother should be doing all they can to secure a move away. Problem for them, Levy will want I'm guessing £100m from another Prem team.
Only Utd and Chelsea would pay it.
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What about Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid? They could be tempted with their showings either in their own leagues or struggling in the CL. I can't see how Kane would say no, especially to Madrid, if he was intent on leaving.
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Depends how much breaking Shearer's record means to him. Only he can answer. But surely you would sacrifice that for a possble La Liga title and Champions League medal? Due to the standard of leagues in Germany and France I think we can safely rule them out.
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 41 minutes ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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And this is where the line between entertainment business and football club becomes blurred. Because winning atrophy is brilliant for a football club regardless of financial reward but winning the league cup is meaningless economically - however look at the last 10 winners of the league cup, it is a competition worth winning to the biggest clubs in the land so why should we be different? - because we are a business not a football club.
That’s my biggest gripe - if Levy told the truth and told people he is running the club like a business rather than a football club then there would be far less disappointment - there would also be far less punters turning up to watch ENIC fc
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comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 41 minutes ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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And this is where the line between entertainment business and football club becomes blurred. Because winning atrophy is brilliant for a football club regardless of financial reward but winning the league cup is meaningless economically - however look at the last 10 winners of the league cup, it is a competition worth winning to the biggest clubs in the land so why should we be different? - because we are a business not a football club.
That’s my biggest gripe - if Levy told the truth and told people he is running the club like a business rather than a football club then there would be far less disappointment - there would also be far less punters turning up to watch ENIC fc
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But did Levy tell all the managers not play a strong team in the cups? I highly doubt it.
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 45 seconds ago
I think you can read a lot into his cherry picking approach to disclosure and honesty. He's happy to be candid in front of a bunch of indifferent Cambridge graduates but he never takes the same approach when addressing real fans.
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He wasn't candid at all. Every answer was calculated and there were Spurs fans in there asking him questions. Just because they are not angry louts like you doesn't mean they are Spurs fans.
One fan asked Levy because his friend pinpointed the moment (after Poch released his book) it went wrong for Poch. Levy answered he knew about it but did not give an answer about the impact on Poch's reign.
Your beloved Poch. Yeah lets get him back because he cried once lol.
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Angry lout You really don't know me at all. If I hear football fans outside pubs signing inane songs, I cringe. When I see football fans with no sense of perspective on life screaming at a ref in front of their children, I despair. If you describe me as an angry lout, I'm sorry, you have absolutely no clue who I really am.
To tell the truth, I love football. Good football. Not just our club. I like the analytical, tactical side of the game. I'm interested in football philosophies of the likes of Pep, Cruyff etc, even though they have no affiliation to Spurs. I'm not even remotely interested in the tribalistic, tawdry one-upmanship of rival club supporters. I like the game, full stop.
But there's one thing I loathe about the game I love - meathead fans and their needless aggression. They make me embarrassed about even liking the game. So, please, refrain from the lout bollllllocks. It couldn't be further from the truth.
PS - your second point about Poch made absolutely no sense but what more can we expect from a meathead.
It’s hugely disappointing that we are now more of a tourism destination and event rather than a football club - but Levy knows where the money is.
It’s going to be very difficult for me to persuade my boys to support Tottenham when we are run the way we are. Luton Town and Watford are closer in proximity and although both are fairly shiete there is no conflict within those clubs about winning and progressing. Whereas at Spurs the only goal is CL qualification and buns on seats - everything else can go swing.
If West Ham win the Euro farmers cup and finish 17th then as far as I am concerned they’re fans have had a more enjoyable season - why can’t Levy grasp that winning silverware will grow the “Brand” even more. Our “brand” currently is synonymous with bottling - something I never remember us being associated with prior to Levy and ENICs reign
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.
Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.
The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.
Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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posted on 20/4/23
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Hawkeye78 (U22468)
posted 13 minutes ago
I'm no Levy fan Don but that "quote" is taken completely out of context. He's not saying finishing above Arsenal was a success.
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Arsenal are on the rise mate. They back their managers and giving the league title a push coming up against arguably one of the best Prem sides ever. Levy justifying that bulls** with “well we finished above them a few times and had fun”. Losers mentality mate. He should be aching to emulate Arsenal and go challenging that league next season. He’s an utter fraud of a chairman and still you defend him.
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I don't disagree about Arsenal and we could all see it this season (apart from Sandy!) I still think they may finish second though.
Anyway, I think Levy's point was that he annoyed to see them above us, after we had finally got the better of them the for the last few years. He needs to learn, not get annoyed though!
posted on 20/4/23
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
posted on 20/4/23
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 minute ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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How much is each Premier League place worth? I think it's £2m?
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 minute ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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Winners of the Europa League can win up to €20m if they win all their group games, and the conference league is now around €13m, if they also win all their group games.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 minute ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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Winners of the Europa League can win up to €20m if they win all their group games, and the conference league is now around €13m, if they also win all their group games.
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Thanks Luka.
When you see that the Carabao cup winning are just £100k you can begin to understand why clubs (all clubs, possibly bar Man City) don't field strong teams.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 5 minutes ago
It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
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Agreed. Kane and his brother should be doing all they can to secure a move away. Problem for them, Levy will want I'm guessing £100m from another Prem team.
Only Utd and Chelsea would pay it.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 1 minute ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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Winners of the Europa League can win up to €20m if they win all their group games, and the conference league is now around €13m, if they also win all their group games.
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Thanks Luka.
When you see that the Carabao cup winning are just £100k you can begin to understand why clubs (all clubs, possibly bar Man City) don't field strong teams.
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Agreed, not to mention that cup adds to fixure congestion so rotation has to come into play.
posted on 20/4/23
I think you can read a lot into his cherry picking approach to disclosure and honesty. He's happy to be candid in front of a bunch of indifferent Cambridge graduates but he never takes the same approach when addressing real fans. That suggests that essentially he knows that we can see through the bullshiiiiit. Football fans, by and large, don't tend to be the most intelligent demographic so I can see why he'd rather not debate issues with a bunch of Brexit-loving meatheads, but if you're going to own a football club, you agree that you're nothing more than a custodian, the captain of a ship that is nothing without support staff. He needs to be more present, more transparent with those that matter. And he needs to digest the criticism better. At the moment he thinks fans criticise him for a lack of ambition regarding finances. Some might but that's not where I stand. We ARE competitive financially with the top six. Maybe not to Chelsea's ridiculous levels but we're not much different to Liverpool and Arsenal. Our problem is that we spend so badly. We flip flop on ideas so frequently that recruitment reflects that muddled level of thinking. It's his decisions that are his biggest weakness, not the size of his wallet.
1. He can't get managers right.
2. He can't get sporting directors right.
3. He can't settle on a philosophy.
3. By virtue of 1, 2 & 3 he can't get recruitment right.
He puts out a statement about front foot football that's suggestive of a philosophy and then completely contradicts it by bringing in Conte and formerly Paratici. If that is your mission statement, you don't bring either of those guys on board.
Sandy is just a delusional, contrary Mary if he thinks Levy is a great chairman. It's his modus operandi. See what the rest of JA606 thinks and choose the exact opposite just to get noticed. It's laughable. It really is.
posted on 20/4/23
Really don't know how we get rid of Levy. He's drunk with power now. This new stadium has completed his masterplan which coincides with the slow destruction of the football club.
posted on 20/4/23
Munn will need to stage a couple with the fans and somehow remove Levy
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 2 minutes ago
Really don't know how we get rid of Levy. He's drunk with power now. This new stadium has completed his masterplan which coincides with the slow destruction of the football club.
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Tbf to him what he has built has taken 17 or 18 years to complete. A slow destruction as you put it would be relegation so we are safe for now and have been for many years.
And your second point is just stupid. You think the man who he is just employed is going to stage some BS coup with a bunch of tribal idiots to remove him? What planet are you on? Probably best not to answer 👍🏻
posted on 20/4/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
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It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
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Agreed. Kane and his brother should be doing all they can to secure a move away. Problem for them, Levy will want I'm guessing £100m from another Prem team.
Only Utd and Chelsea would pay it.
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What about Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid? They could be tempted with their showings either in their own leagues or struggling in the CL. I can't see how Kane would say no, especially to Madrid, if he was intent on leaving.
posted on 20/4/23
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
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The problem we have is that all the time Kane is around, there's a pressure to 'win now', which is a direct contradiction of what the club actually needs at this time. We all want Kane to stay but not if it keeps us in this purgatory state of not knowing whether we need a project or a winner. The club needs a project and Kane needs a winner. His and the club's needs are diametrically opposed to each other. Of course, we all want to win trophies, but I don't think that's possible without first having a project. If you don't have the riches of a Chelsea or United or the perfect system of City, then there is no way to fast track success. It's taken Arteta 3 years to get to this point and he's still looking like he'll fail to win the PL (sure he won an FA Cup but that's the exception rather than the rule).
If we get in a win now man like Enrique, Kane might stay but it will be a disaster within 2 years.
If we get a project man like Slot, Kane will leave but I guarantee we'll be closer to winning something at that 2 year point.
We've got to stop putting Kane central to our decision making. He's one player. A brilliant one, admittedly, but only one player. The club always comes first.
posted on 20/4/23
Is a hit man out of the question, suppose you would get someone who would probably miss by a mile.
posted on 20/4/23
I think you can read a lot into his cherry picking approach to disclosure and honesty. He's happy to be candid in front of a bunch of indifferent Cambridge graduates but he never takes the same approach when addressing real fans.
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He wasn't candid at all. Every answer was calculated and there were Spurs fans in there asking him questions. Just because they are not angry louts like you doesn't mean they are Spurs fans.
One fan asked Levy because his friend pinpointed the moment (after Poch released his book) it went wrong for Poch. Levy answered he knew about it but did not give an answer about the impact on Poch's reign.
Your beloved Poch. Yeah lets get him back because he cried once lol.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
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Is a hit man out of the question, suppose you would get someone who would probably miss by a mile.
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Even a failed murder attempt can be accurately described as Spursy Eventually it'll be an adjective widely used outside football.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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It's ironic that the man who has most prevented Kane from winning silverware is talking about Kane being able to still win silverware.
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And building a statue of him as well. I think judging on the way he spoke he will not cash in on Kane this summer and force him to stay. Just my opinion.
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We already know he wants to keep Kane. I imagine this talk of building a statue and being a legend is a late desperate plea to Kane from Levy to get him to stay.
If I was Kane I'd be seeing through this crap from a man that has probably promised him so much during all these renewed contracts, and not delivered.
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Agreed. Kane and his brother should be doing all they can to secure a move away. Problem for them, Levy will want I'm guessing £100m from another Prem team.
Only Utd and Chelsea would pay it.
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What about Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid? They could be tempted with their showings either in their own leagues or struggling in the CL. I can't see how Kane would say no, especially to Madrid, if he was intent on leaving.
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Depends how much breaking Shearer's record means to him. Only he can answer. But surely you would sacrifice that for a possble La Liga title and Champions League medal? Due to the standard of leagues in Germany and France I think we can safely rule them out.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 41 minutes ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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And this is where the line between entertainment business and football club becomes blurred. Because winning atrophy is brilliant for a football club regardless of financial reward but winning the league cup is meaningless economically - however look at the last 10 winners of the league cup, it is a competition worth winning to the biggest clubs in the land so why should we be different? - because we are a business not a football club.
That’s my biggest gripe - if Levy told the truth and told people he is running the club like a business rather than a football club then there would be far less disappointment - there would also be far less punters turning up to watch ENIC fc
posted on 20/4/23
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comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 41 minutes ago
I know that we have some very resourceful fans on this board and it would be great if someone could provide a comparison of prize money for the various competitions.
I've had a very quick look (due to limited time) and I've found the following potential winnings for each tournament:
Champions league: apparently Real Madrid got £83m euros last season.
Europa league: apparently the winner receives £7.8m
FA Cup: the winner receives £2m
Carbao Cup: The winner receives £100k
When you see those numbers, you can see why someone like Levy is not interested in the domestic cups. You can also see why successive managers have not given them priority either. I'm not saying this is right, but these are the hard cold economic facts.
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And this is where the line between entertainment business and football club becomes blurred. Because winning atrophy is brilliant for a football club regardless of financial reward but winning the league cup is meaningless economically - however look at the last 10 winners of the league cup, it is a competition worth winning to the biggest clubs in the land so why should we be different? - because we are a business not a football club.
That’s my biggest gripe - if Levy told the truth and told people he is running the club like a business rather than a football club then there would be far less disappointment - there would also be far less punters turning up to watch ENIC fc
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But did Levy tell all the managers not play a strong team in the cups? I highly doubt it.
posted on 20/4/23
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 45 seconds ago
I think you can read a lot into his cherry picking approach to disclosure and honesty. He's happy to be candid in front of a bunch of indifferent Cambridge graduates but he never takes the same approach when addressing real fans.
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He wasn't candid at all. Every answer was calculated and there were Spurs fans in there asking him questions. Just because they are not angry louts like you doesn't mean they are Spurs fans.
One fan asked Levy because his friend pinpointed the moment (after Poch released his book) it went wrong for Poch. Levy answered he knew about it but did not give an answer about the impact on Poch's reign.
Your beloved Poch. Yeah lets get him back because he cried once lol.
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Angry lout You really don't know me at all. If I hear football fans outside pubs signing inane songs, I cringe. When I see football fans with no sense of perspective on life screaming at a ref in front of their children, I despair. If you describe me as an angry lout, I'm sorry, you have absolutely no clue who I really am.
To tell the truth, I love football. Good football. Not just our club. I like the analytical, tactical side of the game. I'm interested in football philosophies of the likes of Pep, Cruyff etc, even though they have no affiliation to Spurs. I'm not even remotely interested in the tribalistic, tawdry one-upmanship of rival club supporters. I like the game, full stop.
But there's one thing I loathe about the game I love - meathead fans and their needless aggression. They make me embarrassed about even liking the game. So, please, refrain from the lout bollllllocks. It couldn't be further from the truth.
PS - your second point about Poch made absolutely no sense but what more can we expect from a meathead.
posted on 20/4/23
It’s hugely disappointing that we are now more of a tourism destination and event rather than a football club - but Levy knows where the money is.
It’s going to be very difficult for me to persuade my boys to support Tottenham when we are run the way we are. Luton Town and Watford are closer in proximity and although both are fairly shiete there is no conflict within those clubs about winning and progressing. Whereas at Spurs the only goal is CL qualification and buns on seats - everything else can go swing.
If West Ham win the Euro farmers cup and finish 17th then as far as I am concerned they’re fans have had a more enjoyable season - why can’t Levy grasp that winning silverware will grow the “Brand” even more. Our “brand” currently is synonymous with bottling - something I never remember us being associated with prior to Levy and ENICs reign
posted on 20/4/23
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.
Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.
The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.
Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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