Oh, shiiiit!

Fabrizio Romano now saying Poch might be going to Chelsea.

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comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
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You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
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Precisely mate.
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You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
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We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
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He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
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After Poch had just led us to a Champions league final and 4th place despite not spending anything - and then not backed for his “difficult Rebuild”

Then sacked Jose 6 days before a cup final

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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
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You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
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Precisely mate.
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You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
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We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
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He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
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The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
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Yet lost it because our gutless chairman didn’t provide the resources to win trophies. Never backed him properly and never gave him the tools to push forward, yet you still make excuses for Levy what me, Billy etc have been saying for years is the fact our downfall will be spearheaded by Levy and we are now seeing how right that is.

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comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
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You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
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Precisely mate.
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You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
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The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
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Sacking Poch was the end - he finished the club at that point in terms of competing

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 19 minutes ago
Isn't everyone right?

It's true Levy has made some awful decisions down the years but it's also true what Sandy is saying about being careful what you wish for.

It's weird how you have to be in a Levy-in or Levy-out camp. I think what the club is trying to do is the right thing - allow someone else to take charge of footballing decisions but keep Levy on the business side of things.

The fact remains that I think after 2024, FFP rules begin to really tighten up so the days of a Chelsea / Man City / PSG splurge are long gone (unless you choose to bankrupt the club long term the way Boehly has done at Chelsea). It's far better to have someone financially astute like Levy on board who, for all his faults, does generate funds for the club well.

If football rules are applied as they are suggested to be, Levy will be a leader in his field at ensuring we'e primed at ready for that era. Once FFP is fully in place, that stadium should make us one of the leading clubs in the world financially.
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Fridgeboy, we don't agree on much. But that was an excellent post.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
Oh, shiiiit!

Fabrizio Romano now saying Poch might be going to Chelsea.
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They do have an owner trying to compete and not afraid of a difficult rebuild so why not

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
Oh, shiiiit!

Fabrizio Romano now saying Poch might be going to Chelsea.
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Personally I would love that to happen. If only to see how he did with all the expensive players at his disposal. I reckon it would go no better than the short time he was at PSG. He wouldn't be on easy street like he was at Spurs.

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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Precisely mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Yet lost it because our gutless chairman didn’t provide the resources to win trophies. Never backed him properly and never gave him the tools to push forward, yet you still make excuses for Levywhat me, Billy etc have been saying for years is the fact our downfall will be spearheaded by Levy and we are now seeing how right that is.
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Don, Levy gave Poch more money than any manager before or since he became chairman. Remember the Poch buys Ndombele, Lo Celso, Clarke, Janssen, Sanchez etc, etc

Sandy I think what you have to remember is you have seen Spurs win 14 trophies, you have seen great players come and go. You now get a lovely concession for being older than most peoples houses.

What’s Hezz seen Spurs win? The Audi cup

Levy & ENIC are 100% what is holding Spurs back, they are completely risk averse and value the balance sheet over silverware and glory.

Even when Levy has stumbled upon a top manager who got us close through their coaching etc, when it came to going the extra mile to back them and get us over the line, he has balked at the prospect every time. Giving Redknapp Saha & Nelson when he wanted Tevez and Cahill being the prime example.

Under ENIC & Levy, it is the same movie every year, which is pointless in my book, they should either change their priorities or sell up.

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posted 15 seconds ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 54 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Precisely mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Yet lost it because our gutless chairman didn’t provide the resources to win trophies. Never backed him properly and never gave him the tools to push forward, yet you still make excuses for Levywhat me, Billy etc have been saying for years is the fact our downfall will be spearheaded by Levy and we are now seeing how right that is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Don, Levy gave Poch more money than any manager before or since he became chairman. Remember the Poch buys Ndombele, Lo Celso, Clarke, Janssen, Sanchez etc, etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How many of those were actually Poch buys Sandy?

comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
Levy & ENIC are 100% what is holding Spurs back, they are completely risk averse and value the balance sheet over silverware and glory.

Even when Levy has stumbled upon a top manager who got us close through their coaching etc, when it came to going the extra mile to back them and get us over the line, he has balked at the prospect every time. Giving Redknapp Saha & Nelson when he wanted Tevez and Cahill being the prime example.

Under ENIC & Levy, it is the same movie every year, which is pointless in my book, they should either change their priorities or sell up.
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Good post Billy, couldn’t agree more

Fridgeboy going to have a meltdown if Pochettino goes Chelsea

comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
Oh, shiiiit!

Fabrizio Romano now saying Poch might be going to Chelsea.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They do have an owner trying to compete and not afraid of a difficult rebuild so why not
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They have an owner that is completely clueless, and has spent £600 million plus in six months on players, and hired three or four managers, and take Chelsea from a top four position to 13th or something like that.

He is completely hopeless, and out of his depth in British football.

comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 2 minutes ago
Levy & ENIC are 100% what is holding Spurs back, they are completely risk averse and value the balance sheet over silverware and glory.

Even when Levy has stumbled upon a top manager who got us close through their coaching etc, when it came to going the extra mile to back them and get us over the line, he has balked at the prospect every time. Giving Redknapp Saha & Nelson when he wanted Tevez and Cahill being the prime example.

Under ENIC & Levy, it is the same movie every year, which is pointless in my book, they should either change their priorities or sell up.
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Don’t tell that to fridge boy and Sandy though. Head in sand.

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
Oh, shiiiit!

Fabrizio Romano now saying Poch might be going to Chelsea.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They do have an owner trying to compete and not afraid of a difficult rebuild so why not
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They have an owner that is completely clueless, and has spent £600 million plus in six months on players, and hired three or four managers, and take Chelsea from a top four position to 13th or something like that.

He is completely hopeless, and out of his depth in British football.
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He is, but i bet you any money chelsea win a trophy before Spurs

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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 15 seconds ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 54 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
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You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
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Precisely mate.
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You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
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We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
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He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
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The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
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Yet lost it because our gutless chairman didn’t provide the resources to win trophies. Never backed him properly and never gave him the tools to push forward, yet you still make excuses for Levywhat me, Billy etc have been saying for years is the fact our downfall will be spearheaded by Levy and we are now seeing how right that is.
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Don, Levy gave Poch more money than any manager before or since he became chairman. Remember the Poch buys Ndombele, Lo Celso, Clarke, Janssen, Sanchez etc, etc
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How many of those were actually Poch buys Sandy?
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All of them. Amusing how that old chestnut comes up.

Poch apparently only purchased the good players. Levy purchased all the bad ones.

comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 40 seconds ago
Levy & ENIC are 100% what is holding Spurs back, they are completely risk averse and value the balance sheet over silverware and glory.

Even when Levy has stumbled upon a top manager who got us close through their coaching etc, when it came to going the extra mile to back them and get us over the line, he has balked at the prospect every time. Giving Redknapp Saha & Nelson when he wanted Tevez and Cahill being the prime example.

Under ENIC & Levy, it is the same movie every year, which is pointless in my book, they should either change their priorities or sell up.
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Hard to disagree with this. He's historically folded when he could have gambled just that little bit more for success but that's not much different to the way Liverpool pulled out of the Bellingham deal because it's too expensive. Most sensible owners do it. It's just Levy does do it more than most. He's extremely careful and the more successful you become, the more you have to gamble that little bit more. Otherwise we'll always be fishing in exactly the same pond.

The complication now is that Newcastle are targeting the types of players we'd normally get. They've effectively usurped us as the also-rans in the top four race. So now players like Maddison, Barnes, Mitoma, Ferguson etc are far more likely to move to Newcastle than us. That's a major worry.

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - B... (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
Oh, shiiiit!

Fabrizio Romano now saying Poch might be going to Chelsea.
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They do have an owner trying to compete and not afraid of a difficult rebuild so why not
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They have an owner that is completely clueless, and has spent £600 million plus in six months on players, and hired three or four managers, and take Chelsea from a top four position to 13th or something like that.

He is completely hopeless, and out of his depth in British football.
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He has been there less than a year - not 23 years and they still got further than us in the CL

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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 40 seconds ago
Levy & ENIC are 100% what is holding Spurs back, they are completely risk averse and value the balance sheet over silverware and glory.

Even when Levy has stumbled upon a top manager who got us close through their coaching etc, when it came to going the extra mile to back them and get us over the line, he has balked at the prospect every time. Giving Redknapp Saha & Nelson when he wanted Tevez and Cahill being the prime example.

Under ENIC & Levy, it is the same movie every year, which is pointless in my book, they should either change their priorities or sell up.
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Hard to disagree with this. He's historically folded when he could have gambled just that little bit more for success but that's not much different to the way Liverpool pulled out of the Bellingham deal because it's too expensive. Most sensible owners do it. It's just Levy does do it more than most. He's extremely careful and the more successful you become, the more you have to gamble that little bit more. Otherwise we'll always be fishing in exactly the same pond.

The complication now is that Newcastle are targeting the types of players we'd normally get. They've effectively usurped us as the also-rans in the top four race. So now players like Maddison, Barnes, Mitoma, Ferguson etc are far more likely to move to Newcastle than us. That's a major worry.
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Right, so after going on that rant you are basically agreeing with me and Billy

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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
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You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Precisely mate.
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You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
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We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
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He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
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The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
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Yet lost it because our gutless chairman didn’t provide the resources to win trophies. Never backed him properly and never gave him the tools to push forward, yet you still make excuses for Levywhat me, Billy etc have been saying for years is the fact our downfall will be spearheaded by Levy and we are now seeing how right that is.
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Don, Levy gave Poch more money than any manager before or since he became chairman. Remember the Poch buys Ndombele, Lo Celso, Clarke, Janssen, Sanchez etc, etc
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How many of those were actually Poch buys Sandy?
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All of them. Amusing how that old chestnut comes up.

Poch apparently only purchased the good players. Levy purchased all the bad ones.
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So who bought Nkodou, N’jie, Sissoko?

Don’t you dare say Poch

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posted 10 minutes ago
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posted 15 seconds ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 54 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
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It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
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You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Precisely mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
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Yet lost it because our gutless chairman didn’t provide the resources to win trophies. Never backed him properly and never gave him the tools to push forward, yet you still make excuses for Levywhat me, Billy etc have been saying for years is the fact our downfall will be spearheaded by Levy and we are now seeing how right that is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Don, Levy gave Poch more money than any manager before or since he became chairman. Remember the Poch buys Ndombele, Lo Celso, Clarke, Janssen, Sanchez etc, etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How many of those were actually Poch buys Sandy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

All of them. Amusing how that old chestnut comes up.

Poch apparently only purchased the good players. Levy purchased all the bad ones.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

So who bought Nkodou, N’jie, Sissoko?

Don’t you dare say Poch
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No chance was Pochettino. Levy signings in a nutshell.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ●Billy The Spur● 20*21*22* ENIC OUT! (U3924)
posted 40 seconds ago
Levy & ENIC are 100% what is holding Spurs back, they are completely risk averse and value the balance sheet over silverware and glory.

Even when Levy has stumbled upon a top manager who got us close through their coaching etc, when it came to going the extra mile to back them and get us over the line, he has balked at the prospect every time. Giving Redknapp Saha & Nelson when he wanted Tevez and Cahill being the prime example.

Under ENIC & Levy, it is the same movie every year, which is pointless in my book, they should either change their priorities or sell up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hard to disagree with this. He's historically folded when he could have gambled just that little bit more for success but that's not much different to the way Liverpool pulled out of the Bellingham deal because it's too expensive. Most sensible owners do it. It's just Levy does do it more than most. He's extremely careful and the more successful you become, the more you have to gamble that little bit more. Otherwise we'll always be fishing in exactly the same pond.

The complication now is that Newcastle are targeting the types of players we'd normally get. They've effectively usurped us as the also-rans in the top four race. So now players like Maddison, Barnes, Mitoma, Ferguson etc are far more likely to move to Newcastle than us. That's a major worry.
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It’s only a worry because we don’t have a proper strategy - I bet you Brighton already have Mitoma and Fergusons replacements lined up. That’s exactly what we should have - Mitoma won’t come to us, we move on to player X then Y and then Z.

The issue we have is that we chase the likes of Gvardiol/Skriniar/Bastoni and then sign Lenglet on a loan.

We chase Dybala and then sign no one. We chase Vlahovic and then sign no one until 6 months later.

We just don’t have plans B and C

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posted 1 minute ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Precisely mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Yet lost it because our gutless chairman didn’t provide the resources to win trophies. Never backed him properly and never gave him the tools to push forward, yet you still make excuses for Levywhat me, Billy etc have been saying for years is the fact our downfall will be spearheaded by Levy and we are now seeing how right that is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Don, Levy gave Poch more money than any manager before or since he became chairman. Remember the Poch buys Ndombele, Lo Celso, Clarke, Janssen, Sanchez etc, etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How many of those were actually Poch buys Sandy?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

All of them. Amusing how that old chestnut comes up.

Poch apparently only purchased the good players. Levy purchased all the bad ones.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

So who bought Nkodou, N’jie, Sissoko?

Don’t you dare say Poch
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Poch wanted Mane, he even came to the training ground and was keen to join, but Levy would not match the wages on offer at Varpool. Levy then signed Poch Sissoko for £30m on £35K a week less.

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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 26 seconds ago
When I said lout, i was talkiny about your angry throw the toys out of the pram attitude after we lose a game. Take it on the chin lad.

Ok about Poch. Someone in the crowd said a friend sent him a message highlighting when it started to go wrong for Poch. That message was the book Poch wrote "A brave new world" He wrote this book and after that the form started to dip.

The same effect as David O'Leary's book had at Leeds.

Meathead for life bro 💪🏼
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's very difficult to take stuff like that on the chin when I called the 2019 change in direction the wrong move from the start. I knew it was doomed to fail going for a trophy manager. We've had four years of this now with no end in sight. I wanted Conte out a long time ago and felt angry that we had to endure loss after loss and bad performance after bad performance before he was finally culled. That's why I threw my dummy out. It's hard to discover that a dawn is false long before everyone else does.

The Poch book thing holds no clout. The book's release coincided with a total lack of investment in the playing side for about 2 years. To put it down to the book and not the fact that Poch wasn't backed is just completely and utterly laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid in the audience was a plant to ensure any blame apportioned lies firmly at Poch's door and not Levy's.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You weren’t ahead of the curve, Don was and has been for 20 years, those managers weren’t the problem - Levy/ENIC is - we are not run to win competitions
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Precisely mate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


You know it's possible that we can have a shiiiiit chairman AND the wrong manager at the same time, right?

It's so easy to lay it all at Levy's door but not everything is down to him. We didn't hear a peep from the Levy Out brigade whilst Poch was in charge. You know why? Because he had us challenging for the top trophies and we were all bloody happy. So that proves in and of itself that we can do better than we currently are with the right man in charge, regardless of Levy's frailties above.

It's just a joke to say 'no point' whilst ENIC are in control. What can we do about it? Nothing. We can't force them out and it's clear now that they have no intention of selling so what now? Do we just shut up shop and give up or do we try and make the best of it by getting in a manager that CAN work under the club's restrictions.

Calling out Levy as the ultimate problem as Don and Billy do so frequently is the biggest open goal tap-in in debating history. It's just so easy. So giving Don credit for that is just absurd. It's far harder to see a managerial appointment as a disaster from the beginning and I didn't believe in Jose from day one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We often have the wrong manager because of Levy.

He got Poch right because even a broken clock is right twice a day - law of faaaacking averages and all that.

Then what did he do when Poch said “be brave” he sacked Poch - underlining why he is such a useless chairman now that he has built the club to where it is - he is not the man to take us forwards, he hd no idea.

However, of course he won’t walk away - he has built a cash cow that will make his family wealthy for many many generations - a dynasty.
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He sacked Poch because he hadn't won an away game in months, and had Spurs sliding down the table. Add in the record home European defeat, and getting knocked out of the league cup by a 4th tier side, then any owner/chairman of any club would have done exactly the same. Poch getting the sack for a poor set of results us hardly a unique event in football.
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The irony is that the very worst point under Poch was unquestionably still better than any of the 'peak' times over the last four years. That's in the data and it's undeniable. Whichever way you slice it, in that tail-off final year we finished 4th and got to a CL final.
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Yet lost it because our gutless chairman didn’t provide the resources to win trophies. Never backed him properly and never gave him the tools to push forward, yet you still make excuses for Levywhat me, Billy etc have been saying for years is the fact our downfall will be spearheaded by Levy and we are now seeing how right that is.
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Don, Levy gave Poch more money than any manager before or since he became chairman. Remember the Poch buys Ndombele, Lo Celso, Clarke, Janssen, Sanchez etc, etc
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How many of those were actually Poch buys Sandy?
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All of them. Amusing how that old chestnut comes up.

Poch apparently only purchased the good players. Levy purchased all the bad ones.
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So who bought Nkodou, N’jie, Sissoko?

Don’t you dare say Poch
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No chance was Pochettino. Levy signings in a nutshell.
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Of course it was, as was Spence this summer.

When you have what is a tight budget for a top 6 Prem side - the rest all out spend us, the worst thing you can do is pizz some of it up the wall on a player the chairman wants but the manager doesn’t fancy.

Tottenham that - may aswell nick the saying off Everton as they won’t exist as a club anymore if they get relegated this year