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posted on 7/10/11

Wenger probably thought him as a kit manager.

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posted on 7/10/11

49 goals in a season.

Deserves some respect.

I did read though that Allen had provoked Wenger on a previous occasion and that Wenger's not keen on the man.

posted on 7/10/11

i read that too, maybe he thinks it's better late than never to leave some sort of impression on Arsenal FC

posted on 7/10/11

I think it just highlights what a sulking petulant child the Arsenal manager is.

Constant issues regarding shaking an opponents hand from a grown man is not really good enough is it

posted on 7/10/11

Also, what does "two bob" mean?
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I always thought a "bob" meant 5 pence?

I think that's what they called it when they used old money.

posted on 7/10/11

Martin Keown said Allen has been known to goad Wenger in the past and attempt to wind him up. He was looking for a reaction and a bit of come-uppance and Wenger didn't give him the opportunity.

So he had a public hissyfit and made even more of t**t of himself.

posted on 7/10/11

I'm that sad I googled it. This is the answer according to WikiAnswers:

In the UK a bob was a slang term for a shilling. There were 20 shillings in a pound. A ten shilling note was commonly called a ten-bob note. There were 2 half-pennies to the penny and 3 pennies to the threepenny (pronounced thrupenny: the u is pronounced as in hut; and commonly known as a thrupenny-bit). There were 6 pennies in a sixpence (commonly known as a tanner) and 12 pennies in a shilling. There were 2 shillings in a florin (commonly known as a two-bob bit) and 2 shillings and sixpence in a half-crown. Before that there were 4 farthings in a penny and 5 shillings in a crown and 21 shillings in a guinea. The Mad Hatter in Alice in Wonderland wore a top hat with a 10/6 price tag on it which meant 10 shillings and sixpence which was half a guinea, a considerable amount of money at the time the book was written. Halfpennies and pennies were copper coloured; thrupenny-bits were brass; tanners, shillings, florins, and half-crowns were silver-coloured. In the UK today a bob is worth 5 pence (5p) which is yet one-twentieth of a pound as was the shilling in its day. In the USA today a bob would be worth around 7 cents.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_is_a_%27bob%27#ixzz1a583UqPP

posted on 7/10/11

Clive Allen isn't a bitter old wind-up merchant you understand. No, no. Not one bit:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/21/article-1379387-0BB6D89B00000578-581_634x497.jpg

posted on 7/10/11

Whilst Wenger is just a grumpy old bad loser:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/dynamic/00628/Football_-_Premier__628087t.jpg

posted on 7/10/11

Just out of curiousity why should Wenger shake his hand? He's not the manager, he's not the assistant manager, he's a development coach.

Unless Redknapp shook the hands of every single member of the Arsenal staff then it's a complete non-story.

posted on 7/10/11

Why JJG... WHY?

Because he's an Arsenal legend.

Obviously.

posted on 7/10/11

Just out of curiousity why should Wenger shake his hand? He's not the manager, he's not the assistant manager, he's a development coach.

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Politeness as Allen held out his hand.

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posted on 7/10/11

explanations of what "two bob" means don't explain this context

posted on 7/10/11

Would be a laugh if the touchline staff had to do that "ring a ring o roses" handshake that UEFA/international games do.

Got Wenger down as the classic "wet lettuce" though.

posted on 7/10/11

"Politeness as Allen held out his hand. "

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I'll refer you back to earlier picture links I provided Gingerfinch.

Oh what a very polite man Mr Allen is.

posted on 7/10/11

Politeness as Allen held out his hand. "

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I'll refer you back to earlier picture links I provided Gingerfinch.

Oh what a very polite man Mr Allen is

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Maybe a he should have rose above Allen's petulance. Allen probably liked that fact that he refused a handshake.

posted on 7/10/11

Did Clive Allen do the "bonecrusher" handshake (poor etiquette) on Wenger ??

posted on 7/10/11

It has been taken out of context!

If you re-watch it he actually calls him a "two-bob ", which he undeniably is

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posted on 7/10/11

Personally I think Wenger doesn't like shaking hands, and I can understand that I hate it when someone offers me their hand to shake, partly because I have sweaty palms which is unpleasant for all involved and partly because I'm not very good at assessing just how hip-hop the person wants the handshake to be.

posted on 7/10/11

"Maybe a he should have rose above Allen's petulance. Allen probably liked that fact that he refused a handshake."

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Absolutely agree with you Gingerfinch and G&S, Wenger should have risen above it and been the bigger man.

However, for Allen to have come out with that guff about Arsene being "two bob" is pretty ridiculous when given in context to Allen's obvious lingering bitterness that's apparently still gnawing away at him 30 years later.

Maybe he's just planning to release his memoirs this Christmas though and it's a publicity stunt?

posted on 7/10/11

"Of course, none of us have EVER heard of Wenger refusing handshakes eh?"

so when hasn't he before? i think he refused to shake Mark Hughes' hand after he'd proven himself unworthy of any cordiality, and then there was Phil Brown's disproven claim that he doesn't shake hands with him.
Not that it matters anyway, Clive Allen is just a bloody kit manager or something. so why go public? why not, instead, quietly seethe at his own lack of impression made on the world of football instead of arrogantly abusing a higher ranking professional? know your bloody place!
Clive Allen has watched too many aspirational TV shows perhaps and has an inflated sense of worth in the world. If somebody doesn't shake your hand, so what if you're nobody anyway? Just soak it up like the rest of us do

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