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comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 26/6/23

comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't fancy that Panzo lad, although Coventry lost the playoff final, he came on, looked shaky as hell and almost sold the jerseys in extra time, lad put the ball in the net and Panzo was only saved by a VAR handball

Nope
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Can't judge him on getting chucked on in the dying minutes in a huge match.

Not a great first impression for us but otherwise their fans seem to think he's a player and he won the World Cup at an age group with Foden etc.

Not who I would go for but can see why he might be chosen.
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Pretty sure plenty folk will judge him on what they have seen on Youtube.....my take is, there is pressure on us to win every game, and at times he will have to be put on in high pressure situations at Ibrox etc.....he had ample time on the ball and just totally crumbled, not a good sign.....we've lost too many goals recently because of similar stupid mistakes

posted on 26/6/23

comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 4 minutes ago
Kyogo worth more than Hatate?

He's 28, only 2 years on his deal as opposed to 25 with 3 years left in a position that Spurs actually need someone in.

Remains to be seen if he will come back for any of them but I'd think Hatate and CCV would be the two because their in the priority positions for Spurs.

CCV probably unpalatable to their fans though because they sold him as not good enough for them already.
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Aye that's a resonable assumption mate.

posted on 26/6/23

… sorry, missed the earlier posts about Kyogo while typing that.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 33 seconds ago
A figure of £16m seems to be getting bandied about for Kyogo. Thoughts? Think I’d be telling Prem clubs to GTF at that level, given the crazy figures being spent down there. Bit like when we got a comparative pittance for VVD, even with future add-ons. I know the model we’re working within, but think the figure should be starting with a 2.
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No club is going to pay more than £30m for a player at a Scottish club

posted on 26/6/23

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 33 seconds ago
A figure of £16m seems to be getting bandied about for Kyogo. Thoughts? Think I’d be telling Prem clubs to GTF at that level, given the crazy figures being spent down there. Bit like when we got a comparative pittance for VVD, even with future add-ons. I know the model we’re working within, but think the figure should be starting with a 2.
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No club is going to pay more than £30m for a player at a Scottish club
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Which is why I said the number should be starting with a 2, as it should have done for VVD as well.

posted on 26/6/23

Shinnie to Aberdeen should be completed soon

Also Rhys Williams from Liverpool is the latest from the Dons

posted on 26/6/23

I think 16m is a great deal should it be offered for Kyogo.

The club that buys him won't be able to sell him on for good money so expectations of 20m+ seem overly optimistic imo.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 33 seconds ago
A figure of £16m seems to be getting bandied about for Kyogo. Thoughts? Think I’d be telling Prem clubs to GTF at that level, given the crazy figures being spent down there. Bit like when we got a comparative pittance for VVD, even with future add-ons. I know the model we’re working within, but think the figure should be starting with a 2.
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No club is going to pay more than £30m for a player at a Scottish club
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Which is why I said the number should be starting with a 2, as it should have done for VVD as well.
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It should have done with VVD but the reality is we didn't know how good he was up here because the league only had 1 team and it was a total canter for him.

He proved himself at Southampton.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't fancy that Panzo lad, although Coventry lost the playoff final, he came on, looked shaky as hell and almost sold the jerseys in extra time, lad put the ball in the net and Panzo was only saved by a VAR handball

Nope
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Can't judge him on getting chucked on in the dying minutes in a huge match.

Not a great first impression for us but otherwise their fans seem to think he's a player and he won the World Cup at an age group with Foden etc.

Not who I would go for but can see why he might be chosen.
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Pretty sure plenty folk will judge him on what they have seen on Youtube.....my take is, there is pressure on us to win every game, and at times he will have to be put on in high pressure situations at Ibrox etc.....he had ample time on the ball and just totally crumbled, not a good sign.....we've lost too many goals recently because of similar stupid mistakes
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I agree the last thing we need is a bombscare, i'm just not willing to base my judgement on a few minute cameo.

Plenty of players have looked excellent in them and been schite so the same goes the other way.

posted on 26/6/23

Aww naw

Craig Brown

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 8 minutes ago
Aww naw

Craig Brown
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Sad to hear that. Never really got the credit he deserved IMO. Was involved in Scotland qualifying for FOUR major Finals in the 90’s … WC Italia 90 and Euro 92 as assistant to Roxy, and Euro 96 and WC France 98 as manager. I went to all 4, and never thought it would take so long to reach another one. RIP.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 8 minutes ago
Aww naw

Craig Brown
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Good coach but couldn't stand his greetin' faced, limp schoolteacher voice which tbf only reflected the SFA ideology of the time to hire a string of sycophants between Stein & Smith.

posted on 26/6/23

that was beautiful mate.

wish his family could read your touching tribute.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 26/6/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 12 minutes ago
that was beautiful mate.

wish his family could read your touching tribute.


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Jock gtf anaw.

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 12 minutes ago
that was beautiful mate.

wish his family could read your touching tribute.


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Jock gtf anaw.


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Agree with you on Jock, to be fair. His other brother Bob was a minister in Aberdeen for many years.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 26/6/23

Real Madrid rumoured to be sniffing round Frimpong now anaw. transfermarkt have him valued at Eur40m and are usually conservative. Rumoured 30% sell on for us - could be another £10m all going well?

See if we sold one of our main assets for 20m, add this 10m, add the 4m for Ange, add 10m for a third of BR's supposed warchest even before any CL bonanza then we should be padding out the squad with £5-10m players and not guddling around any more in the squad filler scheite like Odin. Not saying he's rubbish, not saying anyone at £2-3m is but unearthing Jota, Kyogo & CCV in that price range shows what a cut above means compared with the likes of Bernabei, Maeda, Oh and even Starfelt. If Lawwell jnr and the team are that good they need to show it time and again and deliver a better starting 11.

I notice Iwata is due to sign his perm deal for £1m. Great better than expected at CB. Is OK at CM but he isn't outstanding. That's what I'm getting at - we need to aim higher than him going forward. I'd actually argue it is easier for our own academy lads to break through if they come into a team of 5-10m players than a team with Bernabei firing the ball at your waist.

Not saying there aint bargains out there at that lower range like Johnston but the hit rate is way lower and worried that we go back to that scheite somehow? Jota, CCV, Kyogo start every week. Does that not register?

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 17 minutes ago
Real Madrid rumoured to be sniffing round Frimpong now anaw. transfermarkt have him valued at Eur40m and are usually conservative. Rumoured 30% sell on for us - could be another £10m all going well?

See if we sold one of our main assets for 20m, add this 10m, add the 4m for Ange, add 10m for a third of BR's supposed warchest even before any CL bonanza then we should be padding out the squad with £5-10m players and not guddling around any more in the squad filler scheite like Odin. Not saying he's rubbish, not saying anyone at £2-3m is but unearthing Jota, Kyogo & CCV in that price range shows what a cut above means compared with the likes of Bernabei, Maeda, Oh and even Starfelt. If Lawwell jnr and the team are that good they need to show it time and again and deliver a better starting 11.

I notice Iwata is due to sign his perm deal for £1m. Great better than expected at CB. Is OK at CM but he isn't outstanding. That's what I'm getting at - we need to aim higher than him going forward. I'd actually argue it is easier for our own academy lads to break through if they come into a team of 5-10m players than a team with Bernabei firing the ball at your waist.

Not saying there aint bargains out there at that lower range like Johnston but the hit rate is way lower and worried that we go back to that scheite somehow? Jota, CCV, Kyogo start every week. Does that not register?
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Agree, also not seeing it with the links to the Australian and Korean fellas. I know 5m in todays market doesn't translate the same as previous years quality wise but I am hopeful we are looking at this price bracket and above to make the stronger with starters and not squad fillers. Anyway long way to run in the window yet, would be good to get folk in before Japan jaunt but I accept this unlikely.

posted on 26/6/23

Craig Brown, wit a shegger tae

posted on 26/6/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
that was beautiful mate.

wish his family could read your touching tribute.


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fell aff my perch

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Real Madrid rumoured to be sniffing round Frimpong now anaw. transfermarkt have him valued at Eur40m and are usually conservative. Rumoured 30% sell on for us - could be another £10m all going well?

See if we sold one of our main assets for 20m, add this 10m, add the 4m for Ange, add 10m for a third of BR's supposed warchest even before any CL bonanza then we should be padding out the squad with £5-10m players and not guddling around any more in the squad filler scheite like Odin. Not saying he's rubbish, not saying anyone at £2-3m is but unearthing Jota, Kyogo & CCV in that price range shows what a cut above means compared with the likes of Bernabei, Maeda, Oh and even Starfelt. If Lawwell jnr and the team are that good they need to show it time and again and deliver a better starting 11.

I notice Iwata is due to sign his perm deal for £1m. Great better than expected at CB. Is OK at CM but he isn't outstanding. That's what I'm getting at - we need to aim higher than him going forward. I'd actually argue it is easier for our own academy lads to break through if they come into a team of 5-10m players than a team with Bernabei firing the ball at your waist.

Not saying there aint bargains out there at that lower range like Johnston but the hit rate is way lower and worried that we go back to that scheite somehow? Jota, CCV, Kyogo start every week. Does that not register?
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It registers with the support but I’ll never be convinced that it will register with our board, especially when you take into account we’re a plc.

Does anyone honestly think that even if we had a “warchest” of £100m (taking all plus factors into account) we would start buying players at the £12-16m valuation? And even that doesn’t guarantee success.

No. We will do the usual in doing want we can to win as much as possible domestically for as long as possible thereby ensuring the best domestic performances, break the “records”, get into the best European competition that’s up for grabs and erm, that’s it.

And the longer we do that for, the fans will turn up, pay whatever is asked and as likely increase the gap between us and the rest.

That’s us and being a plc all over. Rodgers has as much as said it already for this season. I don’t expect any big name signings. I never really do

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 26/6/23

comment by HB Fashion Sakala is offside again (U21935)
posted 35 minutes ago
Craig Brown, wit a shegger tae
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I didn't want to sully his memory by mentioning that

posted on 26/6/23

Meant to add that adding players of the £12-16m minimum is what we’ll need to be doing to seriously improve the squad and make any kind of mark in Europe.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 26/6/23

That's why I mentioned the 3 most recent resounding successes - Kyogo apart because he was Ange's man and I rounded up, supposedly a result of the super-duper new talent ID process that we've just sold Rodgers on to come back? So, the challenge is if it works, why not follow?

I don't think anybody is saying don't keep scouring for guys below that that could be a hidden gem - again the process ought to work no matter the contractual situation - I'm just saying that the process PLUS the optional price ceiling extension ought to produce more reliable results if everyone is bought in.

You could argue MON was successful on the back of such a strategy?

posted on 26/6/23

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 23 minutes ago
Meant to add that adding players of the £12-16m minimum is what we’ll need to be doing to seriously improve the squad and make any kind of mark in Europe.
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No no no.

We proved you can make a mark with decent players and the right game plan.

Celtic need to wake up and realise their attempts to play European teams the same way the do St Mirren is doomed to failure. Rodgers might make some adjustments from his previous time but you will still be way too open and pay the price.

posted on 26/6/23

Panzo deal isn’t happening apparently. So leaves us a cb short. Want whoever comes in to be a first choice lcb, Trusty looked ideal but Panzo wasn’t convincing.

Hoping the chat of only 4 more players is before sales.

Expect Kamara, Wright and McLaughlin move on. Would like to see Barisic, Hagi, Davies and Colak (only as we could have Sima, Lammers, Roofe, Sakala plus Dessers/Danilo there) also moved on.

Expect we’ll have a smaller squad, so need for likes of King, Devine, Lowry will be greater for that reason and because we’ll need homegrown players for squad rules.

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